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Old 07-22-2009, 12:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I was outside a little while ago and I had a debate with one of the guys I work with about the south. He's a black guy from new york, and he made the mistake of telling me multiple things. He specifically made the comment that all white people in the south are racist, and that anyone that stands behind the confederate flag is a pro-slavery racist. Also, he made the comment that all 'rednecks' are racist.

I just had to vent somewhere... so, let's discuss. What would you have told him?
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like a complete idiot.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm from the deepest part of Mississippi and I'm the least racist person I know. My brother-in-law was born and raised in NYC and everyone in his family is openly racist.

I don't see how because we're 1000 miles separated we're racist. Because I'm from MS:

1. I'm racist.
2. I don't wear shoes.
3. Drive a 4x4.
4. Grow cotton.

Whatever, in the process of people calling us ignorant they commit an ignorant action.





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Old 07-22-2009, 02:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I would have laughed and walked away. That shit doesn't even warrant a serious response.
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I would've told him "Either drink this f*#&$ beer or go f*#& yourself. Either way STFU you ignorant bastard."

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I'd have told him to stick around awhile, and before it was all said and done, he'd meet plenty of black, Asian, and Hispanic racists down here, too. I'd also have told him that he might be better off back up North, where despite countless stories of race tensions and skirmishes in recent years, they all seem to live in harmony... 'cept when they're killing each other off so fast, you wonder how the populations keep rising.

Just out of curiosity, anybody ever wonder why, if it's as bad as claimed by some of the slower folks out there, they keep flocking down here? I mean, if you were a black guy, and really believed the South was still full of KKK members and sympathizers, why on Earth would you CHOOSE to leave the peace and tranquility of New York or Detroit, and cross the Mason-Dixon line... and people are doing it in droves? Don't say for economic opportunity, either; because if you believe there are nothing but racists and rednecks down here, you wouldn't have a snowball's chance of getting a job anyway.
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I was outside a little while ago and I had a debate with one of the guys I work with about the south. He's a black guy from new york, and he made the mistake of telling me multiple things. He specifically made the comment that all white people in the south are racist, and that anyone that stands behind the confederate flag is a pro-slavery racist. Also, he made the comment that all 'rednecks' are racist.

I just had to vent somewhere... so, let's discuss. What would you have told him?
I would've told him that with those opinions......he MAY be the racist. I'm so sick of hearing that white folks are racists.....but black folk can call each other 'N@#$#$, call white folks crackers and honkeys.....have the NAACP, Black Caucus, BET and anything else that is essentially black only but they're never racist.

I'm tired of them calling themselves African American....well I guess that means I'm Irish American. We're ALL just Americans, we when put the label on, that means we want to be separate or call attention to ourselves. I'd have asked that fella how he'd like it if we had WET, the White Caucus, classes for White history in college.....I'm pretty sure he wouldn't like that.


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Ignorant people tend to think of other group(s) in stereotypes so that they can grasp a concept. You should have reminded him about the stupid Black "thingy" stereotype. But, he probably would have called you a Racist for that. LOL!
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I would've told him that with those opinions......he MAY be the racist. I'm so sick of hearing that white folks are racists.....but black folk can call each other 'N@#$#$, call white folks crackers and honkeys.....have the NAACP, Black Caucus, BET and anything else that is essentially black only but they're never racist.

I'm tired of them calling themselves African American....well I guess that means I'm Irish American. We're ALL just Americans, we when put the label on, that means we want to be separate or call attention to ourselves. I'd have asked that fella how he'd like it if we had WET, the White Caucus, classes for White history in college.....I'm pretty sure he wouldn't like that.
That's the biggest problem I have with those that claim to further minority causes. If their goal really is just to be equal, and they don't want any attention called to their ethnic background, why do so many keep putting themselves in categories? Notice I said why do they keep putting themselves in categories, and not "why do we keep putting them in categories". For all the bluster and claims of just seeking justice and equality, the primary leaders of the movement are the worst offenders when it comes to keeping groups apart. If these leaders really wanted to blend in with the fabric of society, and be considered just another member of a very large group with immigrant ancestors, they wouldn't keep singling themselves out every time they got the opportunity. You can't have peers if you constantly put yourself, and those you claim to represent, in a separate group all the time.

Every group of immigrants, at some time or another, has been the focus of racism in this country. Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, Chinese-Americans, Japanese-Americans... you name it. But, what those groups did was call themselves Americans, and did so with pride; to the point where that kind of blatant racism virtually no longer exists with their groups. Granted, it's not quite the same as African-Americans, who didn't exactly immigrate by choice like those other groups, and began life in their new homeland shackled; but if they truly want that stigma erased, and want to be thought of just like everyone else, they'd quit placing themselves in a unique group.

Plenty of REAL black activists have echoed those very thoughts; but then they get bashed by the vitriolic leaders of an imaginary movement whose leaders only seek personal attention.

Of course, that's just a perception from a German-Irish-Czecho-Cherokee-American; so what do I know?
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I'd have said something along the lines of.. Race Relations in this country have come a long way. But, your comments assure me that we still have a very long way to go...
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I would've told him to shut up.
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wow... how did you get so much hatred into yourself at such a young age?......
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