Judge Throws Out England's Plea

WayzUp · 05-04-2005, 07:11 PM

Would calling this 'surprising' be a bit of an understatement?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050504/..._abuse_england

wow...

allaboutavol · 05-04-2005, 07:23 PM

surprising.....well that is one way of putting it

cocky4ever · 05-05-2005, 05:42 AM

Isnt there a screening process to get into the military? If she doesnt have enough sense to know that her actions were wrong she doesnt need to be in the military. My theory on the situation is that she took the fall and was basically the scapegoat for the whole ordeal. What does she get? She gets rewarded by getting off the hook. That doesnt surprise me though, that seems to be the theme of this administration"Dont worry, you wont be held accountable for your actions, only rewarded for loyalty no matter how wrong you were."

WayzUp · 05-05-2005, 07:29 AM

Just this past weekend, I went with a friend to one of his friend's place to play cards. This guy was about 26 years old, lived with his Mom and had just been honorably discharged from the Marines. This guy was a bit off from the moment I met him but after a couple stories, I could tell why he was no longer over there or anywhere else in the world on behalf of the United States.

The shortest story was one where he was sitting in a gun turret on some vehicle and he sees a guy next to a house with a rifle just in time...he ducks down, the guy shoots & misses. When he stands back up, he sees the guy run into the house. Pissed off, he literally mows the house down with the .50 caliber (??) machine gun only to find that there were 14 kids and 2 women inside along with the gunman. Human shields right?

That's what I thought until he launched into another story. And then another. And another. Every story had the same theme though...a guy jumps out or they see an RPG come from a general direction and they just turned guns and sprayed the area continuously until nothing could possibly be alive. I'm guessing one or all of this guys' actions got back to someone and they quietly sent him back home but geez...it was surreal listening to him just wave a hand and saying "Oh well..." to killing who-knows-how-many innocents to get that one attacker. I asked him at one point whether he thought we (the U.S.) should be over there and he said, "I don't f***ing know man...i was just over there to shoot whatever moved. That's what Marines do."

I think the memory of my encounter with this guy is still a little too fresh for me to give an unbiased opinion here but I think there is very little our military will discount a potential recruit for.

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05-05-2005, 07:29 AM		#4 (permalink)
	WayzUp Rant Specialist Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Michigan Age: 36 Posts: 5,047 High Fives: 788 Given High Fives: 1,758 Reputation: Rep Power:
Just this past weekend, I went with a friend to one of his friend's place to play cards. This guy was about 26 years old, lived with his Mom and had just been honorably discharged from the Marines. This guy was a bit off from the moment I met him but after a couple stories, I could tell why he was no longer over there or anywhere else in the world on behalf of the United States. The shortest story was one where he was sitting in a gun turret on some vehicle and he sees a guy next to a house with a rifle just in time...he ducks down, the guy shoots & misses. When he stands back up, he sees the guy run into the house. Pissed off, he literally mows the house down with the .50 caliber (??) machine gun only to find that there were 14 kids and 2 women inside along with the gunman. Human shields right? That's what I thought until he launched into another story. And then another. And another. Every story had the same theme though...a guy jumps out or they see an RPG come from a general direction and they just turned guns and sprayed the area continuously until nothing could possibly be alive. I'm guessing one or all of this guys' actions got back to someone and they quietly sent him back home but geez...it was surreal listening to him just wave a hand and saying "Oh well..." to killing who-knows-how-many innocents to get that one attacker. I asked him at one point whether he thought we (the U.S.) should be over there and he said, "I don't f***ing know man...i was just over there to shoot whatever moved. That's what Marines do." I think the memory of my encounter with this guy is still a little too fresh for me to give an unbiased opinion here but I think there is very little our military will discount a potential recruit for.

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