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Old 01-24-2005, 12:10 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Touche ! As well, just because one was successful in one NCAA program, how can we make the blind assumption they will duplicate the feat at another institution ? Some names come to mind; Lou Holtz, John Robinson (two stints with Southern Cal), or even Danny Ford for that matter.

I guess the point I'm getting at is that Steve Spurrier does not have some magic potion in his pocket that will make any collegiate team he coaches a national contender. Not saying he cannot make South Carolina a national contender, just that he does not deserve credit for doing so prematurely.
How many losing seasons has Spurrier had in his 15 years of coaching college football?
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:16 AM   #17 (permalink)
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or even Danny Ford for that matter.
Mr. Ford's reputation was damaged when the scandals at Clemson were unveiled. After that, his career was pretty much done for. After that fiasco, recruits were a little less likely to follow him to another program because of what happened at CU.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:21 AM   #18 (permalink)
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How many losing seasons has Spurrier had in his 15 years of coaching college football?
Again, Spurrier's well earned status as a living legend in no way translates directly to victories. One would think this point needs not be elaborated for USC fans. I understand your excitment and if I were in your shoes, I'd be excited too. Spurrier is a great hire. You could not have landed a better guy. However, I'm waiting for someone to show me logical reasoning that indicates South Carolina will be able to compete with the heavies in the SEC or Clemson in 2005. And as MuthaClucker would say, "just cuz" don't get it.
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Again, Spurrier's well earned status as a living legend in no way translates directly to victories. One would think this point needs not be elaborated for USC fans. I understand your excitment and if I were in your shoes, I'd be excited too. Spurrier is a great hire. You could not have landed a better guy. However, I'm waiting for someone to show me logical reasoning that indicates South Carolina will be able to compete with the heavies in the SEC or Clemson in 2005. And as MuthaClucker would say, "just cuz" don't get it.
1. He has much SEC experience 2. He has a great deal of talent already here that Lou left him, plus some great speed he is recruiting this year 3. No SEC coach, especially from UGA and Tenn., have been able to figure his offense out completely in the past. I would not even put Clemson in that same category as UGA and Tenn. at this point. I see NO reason to believe he will not be successful pretty darn quick. I don't believe he thinks it is gonna take long, either!!
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As I see it, and I admit to probably being a little biased here, all USC really needs to do is find a QB this spring. Whether it be one of the kids SOS has already received committments from or one that's already here doesn't matter; that they can get the job done and learn does.

Our offense will be better which will keep our defense off the field more often which will make them better late in games. Anyone familiar with Carolina football will chuckle before answering if you ask them if our defense has spent too much time on the field these past few years.

We have a good kicker coming in (Ryan Succopp) which makes me stop and think when the last time we've had a good kicker was. Would we have tried to kick a 40something yard field goal against Ole Miss last year if we'd have had a decent kicker? Would we have even been behind at all? We had a need and it's now all-but-filled. I see that all over the place thus far in recruiting...we've had needs and Spurrier looks like he's going right for them.

Everywhere you look, we're going to be an improved football team. We were already 6-5 with a couple "could've, should've" games...so in all seriousness, our excitement could just be that we know our team and what they're capable of RIGHT NOW, not 3-4 years from now. Can Spurrier bring it all together so soon? I don't think he has all that much work to do outside of finding a legitimate starting QB for his system and in that effort, I put all of my faith in him.

UF might have showing up Spurrier as motivation come November 12 but USC will have a 48-14 loss at the swamp to put on the bulletin board WITH Spurrier's wanting to show up UF as icing.

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Well, Spurrier got his first real taste of bad news as WR Sledge decommits from us & is going to UF while the lineman Hannah from NC announced he's going to VPI.
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Lets see how he handles it...
Spurrier will handle it fine. He always has a "Plan B".


If you noticed, in the article below, they have stayed in contact with this guy. It sounds like to me that Spurrier was planning on losing one or two.

USC Loses WR, Looks Elsewhere
It was confirmed on several internet reports Sunday night that WR Eric Sledge (6-4 195) of Apopka, FL had dropped his commitment to USC in favor of one to Florida. One prospect the Gamecocks might turn to to fill the void, if they feel the need to do so, is WR Ruben Jackson (5-10 190) of City College of San Francisco. USC has maintained contact with Jackson through assistant coach Steve Spurrier Jr. Jackson said Sunday night Spurrier called him last week and plans to contact him again this week. He said USC wants him to visit February 4th, the weekend after National Signing Day. Jackson said he would consider doing that because he's not sure he'll sign February 2nd. Jackson has visited Oregon State and is scheduled to visit Arizona this coming weekend. This season Jackson had 76 catches for 1493 yards and 15 touchdowns.
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Well, from what I read, Sledge was only a 3-star recruit anyway....not a 5-star Parade All American or something......


it doesn't appear Spurrier is making any inroads into any of the nation's elite regardless. He's just bringing in bodies.

I think what we have to hope is that Spurrier's SYSTEM will achieve some immediate results, because he is just not going to have the talent.

It's incredible to me that USC has such a hard time in football and basketball recruiting. Columbia's not a bad spot compared to some of these other places.....but I guess the lack of a winning tradition really kills you.
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Well, from what I read, Sledge was only a 3-star recruit anyway....not a 5-star Parade All American or something......


it doesn't appear Spurrier is making any inroads into any of the nation's elite regardless. He's just bringing in bodies.

I think what we have to hope is that Spurrier's SYSTEM will achieve some immediate results, because he is just not going to have the talent.

It's incredible to me that USC has such a hard time in football and basketball recruiting. Columbia's not a bad spot compared to some of these other places.....but I guess the lack of a winning tradition really kills you.
I agree with part of your post. I think when you win, the recruits will come. Assuming that we go 8-3 as I have predicted, we WILL have a great recruiting year in 06. First things first though, we need to close the doors to our state. Don't let the blue-chips leave the state.
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Its not like we've had terrible recruiting classes lately. We have a lot more talent at our school than our record shows over the last few years.
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losing chips is a big problem, and we will lose a few, but I think that "plan b" will ultimately be our saviour.
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Its not like we've had terrible recruiting classes lately. We have a lot more talent at our school than our record shows over the last few years.
2005: (26th) http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitli...2005&School=69
2004: (35th) http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitli...2004&School=69
2003: (8th) http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitli...2003&School=69
2002: (11th) http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitli...2002&School=69


Like you said Cocky! The "recruits" don't lie!
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