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The big thing lost in all of this is that South Carolina pulled off what pretty much no similar team has. They did manage to make a very high profile hire at a school where it wouldn't seem possible. It just needs more time. OT had some good points about the east next year and as much as I said coming into this season that Garcia was completely unproven (and he was) I feel like he will become one of the preeminent qbs in the conference his last two seasons. His elusiveness is amazing and he is throwing a quality pass this season. Big year next season imo. | ||
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I do see your point as to why Johnson may not want to leave Tech, but honestly I think he's a guy that wants to compete at the highest level. He wants to prove that he can do it, same as Meyer or Saban or any other great coach. He could settle for the Orange bowl and an ACC championship every other year, but I don't think he wants that. And certainly the old money and resources at Bama have a lot to do with the resurgence. Don't get me wrong, I know there aren't many coaches that could step into USCe's situation and be competing for a SEC title in 2-3 years. That said, I think they've gotten about all their going to get out of the ol' ball coach. There has to be a point where USC decides, hey, we don't want to be a 7-8 win team every year. We want to compete for this conference. Maybe they turn the corner next season. I hope they do because I like their program and their fans and I like Spurrier (even though I hated him in the 90's). I'm just not sure how much longer Spurrier needs. | ||
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It's HUGE for this program to even be mentioned on ESPN, especially for "fading down the stretch". You know what that means? That Steve Spurrier has built a probation ridden, talentless South Carolina program into a football school with EXPECTATIONS. Not just from their own fans and staff, but from the national media. Are people surprised that Vandy is about to go 2-10 a year removed from their 7-6 campaign? Nope, because it was only 1 year. Carolina has the respect of the SEC and the nation for the first time in a long time. It would be asanine to fire a National Championship, Hall of Fame head coach after the best 5 years this program has ever experienced. Quote:
How do you think Notre Dame has survived for so long with decent recruiting classes? Because kids thought Charlie Weis or Tyrone Willingham would give them the best chance to win? Not a chance. For someone who loves to brag about their schools tradition, you sure do ignore it when it matters to someone else... The Gamecock fans are some of the best. I've never heard 80,000 be that loud before. Carolina has ALWAYS wanted more than just an 8 win season. If you think that someone other than Spurrier can give it to them in a couple years, then you know something no one else in the country does. I'm still shocked that firing Spurrier is even a talking point... | ||
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Spurrier is a great coach. We all know that. He's done a great job at turning the program around (another point I made which you chose to ignore). My point in saying all of that was to say, I think Spurrier has taken USC as far as he can take them. I give him all the credit in the world for what he's done there, as I've said countless times already. You may choose to disagree. It is your opinion and you're entitled to it. And I'm not saying they should go and fire Spurrier this year. Let's be realistic. You don't fire a hall of famer like Spurrier after he gets your team multiple winning seasons when there was NO winning at the university before he got there. I just think that if USC wants to get beyond the 7-8 win mark they're going to have to start looking elsewhere. It may be next year, it may be 2 years from now. But I think it's eventual. | ||
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| And I assure you, firing Steve Spurrier right now is NOT what I'm remotely suggesting. He has another year at least, but like I've said many times Steve Spurrier will leave South Carolina when he's ready to. I understand that also and I think he's probably earned that. | ||
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You're saying that if Carolina wants to be a consistently better team, they should get rid of Spurrier. I don't know how else to interpret any of this. The only replacement examples are new, "hot" coaches. There is no justification for them being any better than what the Gamecocks have now, so I guess I just don't get your point of view. Hell, there are probably 115 FBS schools out there that would gladly take Spurrier off South Carolina's hands. It took Spurrier one year to lead a probation suffering Florida to an SEC championship, but he was already left with good players, a good team, and an overall good situation. It's not comparable in any way to what he walked into at South Carolina. Quote:
![]() You chastise the Gamecock fans for not demanding more success and searching for a "better" coach, yet you don't think he should be fired? I'm not following you at all. From your perspective, what would be the best course of action for South Carolina to take, if they want to win the SEC East in the next 3 years? | ||
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| Spurrier is smart. He is a VERY smart football coach. I think he is doing a great job. He is trying to compete in an extremely fierce conference. Peoople forget that. | ||
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| Spurrier leaving or being forced out right now would be disastrous for our program, no doubt in my mind. | ||
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| Spurrier is not going to be forced out, He will leave when he is ready and on his terms. South Carolina is lucky to have him and the majority of the people know that. There are a few numb nuts that think a new coach is the answer. This would only set us back again, especially recruiting. The Sec is not the best football conference for nothing. If Florida is the best team in the nation, and we were on the 20 yard line, 3 points behind in the fourth quarter, then how far behind can we be? And Bama, you didn't exactly cake walk through our game either. I love our team and I love the job Spurrier is doing. Thank you Coach Spurrier. | ||
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