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No. DJ Shockley will have a better NFL career than Greene too 4 40.00%
Yes, you can tell from looking at the photos here he is simply the best ever 6 60.00%
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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No doubt in my mind who's the better QB, despite neither has thrown 1st NFL pass yet
David Greene is not The University of Georgia's Best Quarterback ever.

Not close.

MOST PASS ATTEMPTS IN A SEASON :

# 1 David Greene 2003
# 5 David Greene 2002
# 7 David Greene 2001
# 10 David Greene 2004

MOST PASS ATTEMPTS - CAREER
# 1 David Greene 2001-2004

MOST PASS COMPLETIONS - SEASON
# 1 Eric Zeier 1993

MOST PASSING YARDS - SEASON
# 1 Eric Zeier
# 2 Eric Zeier

BEST COMPLETION PERCENTAGE - SEASON
# 1 Mike Bobo 1997
# 2 Eric Zeier 1993
# 3 Hines Ward 1995
# 4 Fran Tarkenton 1959
# 5 Quincy Carter 1998
# 6 Buck Belue 1981

BEST COMPLETION PERCENTAGE - CAREER
# 1 Eric Zeier 1991-1994
# 2 Hines Ward 1994-1996

AVERAGE GAIN PER PASS COMPLETION - CAREER
# 1 Matt Robinson 1974-1976

PASSING EFFICIENCY RATING - CAREER
# 1 DJ Shockley 2002-2005 142.86

AVERAGE GAIN PER PASS ATTEMPT - CAREER
# 1 Matt Robinson 1974-1976
# 2 Johnny Rauch 1945-1948
# 3 Mike Bobo 1994-1997
# 5 DJ Shockley 2002-2005
# 6 David Greene 2001-2004

TOUCHDOWN RESPONSIBILITY - GAME
# 1 DJ Shockley 6

MOST TOUCHDOWN PASSES - SEASON
# 1 DJ Shockley 24 in 2005
# 1 Eric Zeier 24 in 1993
# 1 Eric Zeier 24 in 1994

MOST PASSING YARDS BY A SENIOR
# 1 Eric Zeier 1994
# 2 Mike Bobo 1997
# 3 DJ Shockley 2005

MOST OFFENSIVE PLAYS - SEASON
# 1 David Greene 507 plays in 2003

AVERAGE GAIN PER PLAY - SEASON
# 1 Charley Trippi 1942
# 2 Mike Bobo 1997

AVERAGE GAIN PER PLAY - CAREER
# 1 Charley Trippi 1942, 1945-1946
# 2 Mike Bobo 1994-1997
# 3 DJ Shockley 2002-2005
# 4 Eric Zeier 1991-1994

TOUCHDOWN RESPONSIBILITY - SEASON
# 1 DJ Shockley 28 TDs 2005
# 2 Frank Sinkwich 1942
# 3 Eric Zeier 1993
# 3 Eric Zeier 1994


David Greene was SACKED 95 times. NFL 2005 Draft: Pick Number eighty five 85 - David Greene, Seattle Seahawks

If David Greene is the best because he "won" 44 games, then why did he lose 8 and win only 7 over the vols, Florida, LSU and Auburn ? (3-1, 1-3, 1-2, 2-2).


And, why did he never beat Brookwood, or Parkview ?


Why has he not thrown his 1st NFL pass and is very close to be cut loose by Seattle for his performances in the preseason games last season ?


Not only did he lose more yards rushing than any quarterback in the game, but lead feet David Greene led The BullDawgs in Fumbles in 2001, 2002, 2003 and in 2004.


David Greene's fumbles plus interceptions per touchdown scored at both at Georgia are far worse than DJ Shockley's as everyone knows.



David Greene is far more likely to throw an interception or fumble the football, rather than score a touchdown, than DJ Shockley - which is why DJ Shockley will attempt his 1st NFL pass before David Greene does.


DJ Shockley (right-handed) has more muscle in his left arm that David Greene.



Even big fat, slow-footed players ran David Greene down. So, why did he call his own number 507 plays a season ? Explain that ?



Why did DJ Shockley average more than 5.4 yards MORE per carry than David Greene ?



Because one is an athlete and one is not ?

David Greene - the best UGA Quarterback ever. BS.

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In answer to your question.

Greene or Shockley neither one would make a pimple on a good NFL QB's ass.
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Yeah, but that is not the question is it ? The question is who is the better quarterback of the 2.
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Yeah, but that is not the question is it ? The question is who is the better quarterback of the 2.
Going strictly by the stats you posted, and my personal memories of their play. Greene, hands down.
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In 50 fewer rushes, both played in 51 games, DJ Shockley average over 5.85 more yards per carry than did David Greene.

Never mind the fact that David Greene led the team in fumbles every single year he was at UGA with 22 fumbles to fewer touchdowns rushing than DJ Shockley in total, while DJ Shockley had by direct comparison again but only 4 fumbles total for his career with once again more touchdowns scored rushing too than David Greene.

How is that DJ Shockley ran for 901 more yards rushing than David Greene did, with several more rushing TDs than David Greene on 50 fewer carries than David Greene ?

Why is all this ?

Is because you don't have the balls to challenge one of these facts in public ? Go ahead. I dare you.

Passing Efficiency Rating for their careers too at Georgia finds that DJ Shockley had a higher passing efficiency rating too, but anyone who watched the preseason games last year can tell you that David Greene is a long way away from getting on that field for Seattle or anyone else because he cannot get the pass downfield, as he could not here, and cannot get the pass off as he could not here and is more likely to fumble or throw an interception than to score a TD as he was here too - because 1 is an athlete and 1 isn't.
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In 50 fewer rushes, both played in 51 games, DJ Shockley average over 5.85 more yards per carry than did David Greene.

Never mind the fact that David Greene led the team in fumbles every single year he was at UGA with 22 fumbles to fewer touchdowns rushing than DJ Shockley in total, while DJ Shockley had by direct comparison again but only 4 fumbles total for his career with once again more touchdowns scored rushing too than David Greene.

How is that DJ Shockley ran for 901 more yards rushing than David Greene did, with several more rushing TDs than David Greene on 50 fewer carries than David Greene ?

Why is all this ?

Is because you don't have the balls to challenge one of these facts in public ? Go ahead. I dare you.

Passing Efficiency Rating for their careers too at Georgia finds that DJ Shockley had a higher passing efficiency rating too, but anyone who watched the preseason games last year can tell you that David Greene is a long way away from getting on that field for Seattle or anyone else because he cannot get the pass downfield, as he could not here, and cannot get the pass off as he could not here and is more likely to fumble or throw an interception than to score a TD as he was here too - because 1 is an athlete and 1 isn't.
All you have proved, is that Shockley is the more mobile of the two.

As for your "balls" comment. If you were standing in front of me, I would have the balls to cut your head off, and throw it at your ass. However, "balls" aren't relevant to the thread.
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Geogia "Going strictly by stats you posted" (and my poor memory & ability to read), "Greene"
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Going strictly by the stats you posted, and my personal memories of their play. Greene, hands down.
Which ones of these stats are better you think for David Greene than for DJ Shockley SavageOrangeJug ?


MOST PASS ATTEMPTS IN A SEASON :

# 1 David Greene 2003
# 5 David Greene 2002
# 7 David Greene 2001
# 10 David Greene 2004

MOST PASS COMPLETIONS - SEASON
# 1 Eric Zeier 1993

MOST PASSING YARDS - SEASON
# 1 Eric Zeier
# 2 Eric Zeier


PASSING EFFICIENCY RATING - CAREER
# 1 DJ Shockley 2002-2005 142.86

AVERAGE GAIN PER PASS ATTEMPT - CAREER
# 1 Matt Robinson 1974-1976
# 2 Johnny Rauch 1945-1948
# 3 Mike Bobo 1994-1997
# 5 DJ Shockley 2002-2005
# 6 David Greene 2001-2004

TOUCHDOWN RESPONSIBILITY - GAME
# 1 DJ Shockley 6

MOST TOUCHDOWN PASSES - SEASON
# 1 DJ Shockley 24 in 2005
# 1 Eric Zeier 24 in 1993
# 1 Eric Zeier 24 in 1994

MOST PASSING YARDS BY A SENIOR
# 1 Eric Zeier 1994
# 2 Mike Bobo 1997
# 3 DJ Shockley 2005

MOST OFFENSIVE PLAYS - SEASON
# 1 David Greene 507 plays in 2003

AVERAGE GAIN PER PLAY - CAREER
# 1 Charley Trippi 1942, 1945-1946
# 2 Mike Bobo 1994-1997
# 3 DJ Shockley 2002-2005
# 4 Eric Zeier 1991-1994

TOUCHDOWN RESPONSIBILITY - SEASON
# 1 DJ Shockley 28 TDs 2005
# 2 Frank Sinkwich 1942
# 3 Eric Zeier 1993
# 3 Eric Zeier 1994



David Greene was SACKED 95 times. NFL 2005 Draft: Pick Number eighty five 85 - David Greene, Seattle Seahawks


DJ Shockley rushed in 50 fewer rushes for 901 more yards than David Greene and in the 50 fewer rushes, rushed for several more touchdowns than David Greene as well.

While DJ had 4 fumbles in his career, David Greene had 22.

DJ Shockley led UGA to an SEC Championship in his one attempt, and David Greene 1 in his 4 attempts.

Together, they posted a 4-1 record over the vols - losing only David Greene's Senior Year when they should have put DJ Shockley BACK IN THE GAME according to Jason Allen.

You know who Jason Allen is, right vols' fan ?
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Geogia "If you were standing in front of me, I would have the balls to cut your head off"
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All you have proved, is that Shockley is the more mobile of the two.

As for your "balls" comment. If you were standing in front of me, I would have the balls to cut your head off, and throw it at your ass. However, "balls" aren't relevant to the thread.
I will and have eaten your lunch.
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MOST PASS ATTEMPTS IN A SEASON :

# 1 David Greene 2003
# 5 David Greene 2002
# 7 David Greene 2001
# 10 David Greene 2004
4 year starter for UGA.

There is a reason that Shockley rode the pine for so long behind Greene, he's still pulling splinters out of his ass. I'm sure Richt could give you more detailed reasons than I. Why don't you write him a letter expressing your displeasure.
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I will and have eaten your lunch.
Grady, even your fellow UGA fans agree.

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Greene is, by far, the better QB. It's not even close. That's also why I'm praying the Falcons don't give Shockley the starting job. He's no different than Vick. QB's get paid to throw the ball... leave the RUNNING to the RUNNINGback. Don't get me wrong, a good QB has to be mobile enough to avoid the rush, and a good enough runner to have a few running plays in his repertoire, a la Tebow; but if Atlanta sticks me with another guy who can't pass on a regular basis, I'll personally slap Arthur Blank in the mouth, and stay with the Fins. I try to be a hometown fan of the Falcons, even though I grew up a Dolphin fan (and still am), but the repetitive stupidity of the Atlanta leadership (see: Matt Schaub trade right before Vick f's up), not to mention the THUG atmosphere at the home games, make them about as difficult to root for as any team. And they play 10 miles from here.

No, I'm afraid the difference between Greene and Shockley isn't that one is an athlete, and one is not. The difference is that Greene is a quarterback, and the other doesn't know what he is. He's just physically gifted enough to run like hell when he gets scared, and avoid the tackle. Just like Vick, he's either not smart enough or ballsy enough to stand in there and make the play. How many jitterbugs have won a Super Bowl? Answer: 0. D.J. Shockley ain't Vince Young.
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Geogia He who starts is better, he who doesn't cannot be proven better ?
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4 year starter for UGA.
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There is a reason that Shockley rode the pine for so long behind Greene, he's still pulling splinters out of his ass. I'm sure Richt could give you more detailed reasons than I. Why don't you write him a letter expressing your displeasure.


So, a player who rides the pines is worse than the starter. That is your point ?

You said based upon strictly the stat s I posted, and then all you have is one stat.

What you got nothing to say about more touchdowns per pass attempt than David Greene's ?

Nothing about DJ Shockley's All-Time UGA Record in Passing Efficiency Rating for his career than David Greene's ?

Nothing about more touchdowns rushing on 50 fewer attempts and over 5.85 yard more per rush and 79 fewer sacks than David Greene other than admit that DJ Shockley is more mobile ?

Nothing about DJ Shockley's Average Gain Per Play for his career than David Greene ?

Nothing about DJ Shockley's All-Time UGA Season Record for Touchdowns Responsible for ?

Nothing about DJ Shockley's All-Time UGA Season Record for Most Touchdown Passes ?

Nothing about DJ Shockley's Touchdown Passes per play compared to David Greene's ?

Nothing about DJ Shockley's All-Time UGA Record for Most Touchdowns Responsible for in a game ?

Nothing about DJ Shockley's 1-year his senior year compared to David Greene's senior year yardage either ?

Your language and personal assault in public in writing for personal bodily harm to others in this newsgroup is noted.

Going strictly by the stats, DJ Shockley is clearly the better quarterback. Going strictly by your statements of personal bodily harm guaranteed others in this forum, you should be arrested and kicked out of this forum forever.

I see too you have nothing to say about both being 4-1 losing only to the vols in David Greene's senior year when Jason Allen said that DJ Shockley should have been put back in the game.

You are a proven wuss.
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DJ Shockley "BOWDEN AWARD WINNER" had higher GPA than David Greene
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Greene is, by far, the better QB. It's not even close. That's also why I'm praying the Falcons don't give Shockley the starting job. He's no different than Vick. QB's get paid to throw the ball... leave the RUNNING to the RUNNINGback. Don't get me wrong, a good QB has to be mobile enough to avoid the rush, and a good enough runner to have a few running plays in his repertoire, a la Tebow; but if Atlanta sticks me with another guy who can't pass on a regular basis, I'll personally slap Arthur Blank in the mouth, and stay with the Fins. I try to be a hometown fan of the Falcons, even though I grew up a Dolphin fan (and still am), but the repetitive stupidity of the Atlanta leadership (see: Matt Schaub trade right before Vick f's up), not to mention the THUG atmosphere at the home games, make them about as difficult to root for as any team. And they play 10 miles from here.

No, I'm afraid the difference between Greene and Shockley isn't that one is an athlete, and one is not. The difference is that Greene is a quarterback, and the other doesn't know what he is. He's just physically gifted enough to run like hell when he gets scared, and avoid the tackle. Just like Vick, he's either not smart enough or ballsy enough to stand in there and make the play. How many jitterbugs have won a Super Bowl? Answer: 0. D.J. Shockley ain't Vince Young.

You're a racist.

DJ Shockley is not smart enough ?

Huh ?

There is no place in publc for this quote from you crocodile fan, who I am quite certain was there at the Swamp booing Chris Leak with all the rest of the crocodile fans as we all are aware.
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If you're going to go all stat happy, then you need to include all of the stats. For instance:
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MOST PASS COMPLETIONS - SEASON
# 1 Eric Zeier 1993
Who's 2, 3, 4, and 5? Because if Greene is up there, it kind of hurts your argument.

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MOST PASSING YARDS - SEASON
# 1 Eric Zeier
# 2 Eric Zeier
See above. Who's 3, 4, and 5?

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BEST COMPLETION PERCENTAGE - SEASON
# 1 Mike Bobo 1997
# 2 Eric Zeier 1993
# 3 Hines Ward 1995
# 4 Fran Tarkenton 1959
# 5 Quincy Carter 1998
# 6 Buck Belue 1981
The fact that you go all the way to #6 really makes me suspicious as to what stats were left out in the yardage and completion lists.

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BEST COMPLETION PERCENTAGE - CAREER
# 1 Eric Zeier 1991-1994
# 2 Hines Ward 1994-1996

AVERAGE GAIN PER PASS COMPLETION - CAREER
# 1 Matt Robinson 1974-1976
OK, I'm pretty much beating a dead horse here.

We get it--you like Shockley more than Greene. Further, you think that Shockley will be a better NFL QB than Greene. And that may well be true.

But I gotta say, I have to wonder whether a true Georgia fan would go to such lengths to belittle a man who played his heart out for the Bulldogs for 4 years.

Sig by Sabanocchio, a pretty decent guy for a Tennessee fan...


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