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| The writer of that arcticle has notoriously been somewhat of a LSU hater. Miles has closed practices from time to time. Fine with me. I'm not going anyway. Why sports media think they have a right to view college football team practices is beyond me. LSU or not. They have no right. It's the coaches call, not some douchebag sports writer. | ||
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| Miles is doing better at LSU than Saban did. Miles comes off as some idiot from the Big 12 and lots of people cant understand how he's so successful in Baton Rouge. On the other hand Bama had to beg and plead to pry Saban away from the NFL, and now he is the supposed "savior" of their program. So, how can some doofus from the Big 12 do a better job at LSU than Bama's saving grace?? Thats a question that Bama fans will go to great means to avoid, even if it means buying into dumbass articles like the one above. | ||
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What the hells this article got to do with Bama ?? or Saban ?? Just so you know, Bama fans could give less than 2 terds about Les Miles and the way he handles his practices. And I guess you think that when coaches leave they take their players with them. | ||
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| A laughable article by a laughable sportswriter........ .....and so, how about dem 3-0 Saints! 45-7 today over the hapless Raiders. This ain't your daddy's Saints! | ||
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If you bammers don't give a rats "a" about Miles, why do alot of y'all go to great lengths to hate on the man. | ||
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I think he mentioned Bama fans hating on Miles because of, well the overwhelmingly negative statements made on this board about Miles by numerous Bama fans. Miles has been very successful at LSU but I have yet to hear a single positive statement about him, or any other SEC coach, from any Bama fans. I'm not saying this as a flame against Bama fans, there are several here that I consider good friends. But as I type this post I honestly cannot recall a single positive statement about any coach from them unless it was about Nick Saban or Bear Bryant. | ||
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![]() But for the sake of reality, what Bama fan who pays any attention at all, would question another coach who closes practice when our own coach closes practices? | ||
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Cocky's statement about Miles doing better @ LSU than did Saban made me go and check this out for myself, especally since this has been a major point of contention between Bama fans & LSU fans for the last couple of years. Here is how both coaches stints at LSU break down Year 1 Saban 2000: Record 8-4, won Peach Bowl, bad losses to Auburn & UF home loss to UAB. Miles: 2005: Record 11-2, won Peach Bowl Advantage: Miles Year 2 Saban 2001: Record 10-3, SEC Champions, won Sugar Bowl, bad loss to UF Miles 2006: Record 11-2, Won Sugar Bowl Advantage: Saban, (tough call here since Miles actually had a better record, gave the nod to Saban since he won the conference) Year 3 Saban 2002: Record 8-5, lost Cotton Bowl, bad losses to Va Tech, Auburn, Alabama, Miles 2007: Record 12-2, won SEC & BCS national championships Advantage: Miles Year 4 Saban 2003: Record 13-1, won SEC & National championships Miles 2008: Record 8-5, won Chik-fil-A Bowl, bad losses to UF, UGA, Ole Miss Advantage: Saban Year 5 Saban 2004: Record 9-3, lost Capital One Bowl, Third loss in five years to Auburn, BTW, bad loss to UGA. Miles 2009: ??????? In Saban's first four season's at LSU he won two conference & one BCS title. Miles first four seasons have seen one conference & one BCS title. In four seasons Miles' record is 42-11. Saban had a record of 39-13 over his first four seasons. Looking at their conference records, Miles is sitting at 22-10 in SEC play, wile Saban had a record of 22-10. AS for bowl games, Saban had a 3-2 record. Miles has a 4-0 record in bowl games Titles, Saban has the advantage Overall wins Miles has the advantage Conference wins it's a tie. Bowl wins Miles has the advantage In conclusion I have to say that Les Miles is as good and in some respects better than Nick Saban. Both are good coaches and I think that after studying both records wile at LSU, I must say that Miles is a better coach that I supposed before my research and conversely, Saban not quite as good as I supposed him to be. One thing that I wish to point out here is that the contention of many that Miles has simply rode the wave of talent that Saban left behind, looks to be a gross over simplification of the facts. This over simplification has been accepted as gospel truth. I contend that wile Saban did leave a good deal of talent and in fact left the program in much better shape than when he arrived, there were still some issues with Saban's last LSU team. The fall off of the 2004 LSU from the 2003 team is appreciable. I think it is an accomplishment to be proud of in that Miles took this team and improved them to a 11 win season in 2005. Saban did help lay the foundation, but Miles has taken that foundation and improved upon it. Yes, 2008 was a bitterly disappointing season for LSU, but before anyone makes to much over this fact I think I must point out that Saban followed up his BCS title year with one very similar to Miles. In fact in Saban's five years at LSU, three of those seasons (2000: 8-4, 2002: 8-5, 2004: 9-3) must be considered as being just as, if not more, disappointing as 2008 was for Miles at LSU. To say that Miles is an idiot wile at the same time contending Saban is one of best coaches in the nation is absurd. | ||
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| I guess people have forgotten that saban made lsu what it is lulz | ||
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Another prime example right here. ![]() Yes, Saban turned a struggling LSU program around but Miles has done as good and in some regards even better than did Saban. By continuing to ignore the facts you are only making yourself look foolish. | ||
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When Miles got there, LSU was already back to being a powerhouse team, with 2 SEC titles, 1 National title, and a boatload of talent. So, I wouldn't say Miles has done a better job than Saban at all. I'd say Saban did one helluva job turning a doormat into a powerhouse; and Miles has done a decent job of keeping them that way. In fact, I'd venture to say that if Miles had taken over the team that Saban did, they still wouldn't have won any more SEC or National Championships... they'd still be struggling. Everything LSU is today, Miles owes to Saban. Look what Miles did with his own lousy program, OSU: If Miles could turn a loser into a National contender, he'd have done it with them. Instead he went 4-7, 8-5, 9-4, and 7-5; and went 1-2 in bowl games. They improved, but he didn't make Champions out of a perennial loser like Saban did. | ||
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