[bamathrower]

The Tiger's Den -


never seen so many crying fans in my life. GG

[bluelightstar]

It probably was an INT.

[wareagle1492]

saw it on espn, he had 2 feet in bounds, it was challenged or at least reviewed and was still ruled incomplete. what a royal f#$k up by the refs im actually pretty mad about it too. they are ruining the game.

[Roscoe]

Bama would have still won. But calls like that are horrible. I'm not even gonna click that link, most lsu fans I know are nuts as if they actually suited up, played and lost themselves. i'll be damned if loss makes me stop partying. Dependent emotions.

dont make sense. but they don't call 'em coonasses for nuthin.

[DonAU1124]

Really good article on it:

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- I wish I could have written Saturday about how Alabama receiver Julio Jones, who has struggled to break free all season, caught a 2-yard pass in the fourth quarter and turned it into a 73-yard touchdown. I wish I could have written about the grin on Alabama quarterback Greg McElroy's face when he said "I've never seen anybody run that fast."
I wish I could have written about how LSU cornerback Patrick Peterson fought off cramps for most of the game, or about how he just missed getting back on the field before that Jones touchdown play began. I should have written about how LSU soldiered on in spite of injuries to starting quarterback Jordan Jefferson (ankle) and tailback Charles Scott (broken collarbone).
Instead, I have to write about the SEC officials. Again.
Because when officials went to the video with 5:54 remaining in Alabama's 24-15 win to determine whether Peterson intercepted McElroy along the right sideline, the replay official didn't see what most impartial eyes watching at home saw: Peterson got his left foot down with possession. He may have even gotten his right foot down. Officials on the field ruled Patterson caught the ball out of bounds. After a few minutes, replay official Gerald Hodges upheld that call, even though numerous replays shown on the CBS telecast seemed to show Peterson getting that left foot down with possession. Later, LSU players would say Peterson's left shoe left an obvious gash in the grass. (After interviews, I even took a photo of said gash.)

Let's get one thing straight. The play didn't decide the game. Yes, LSU would have gotten the ball down six instead of down nine 2 minutes and 50 seconds later, but there's no guarantee backup quarterback Jarrett Lee, working with backup running back Stevan Ridley, would have led the Tigers down the field for the winning score against the ferocious Alabama defense.
But we should be comfortable in knowing that correct calls led to a result that will stand forever. A result, mind you, that allowed Alabama to clinch the SEC West title and set up a showdown with Florida in Atlanta on Dec. 5. That's the problem with all the SEC officiating hijinks this season: Now we don't know. Now we can't be sure the best team won, because we know both teams didn't get a fair shot. Saturday's disputed call was as unfair to Alabama as it was to LSU, because a tiny seed of doubt has now planted itself in the minds of all but the most fervent Alabama supporters.
Had the call gone the other way, it would have been just as unfair, but it wouldn't have given the tinfoil-hat crowd the ammunition this one did. The SEC is under even more scrutiny this season because of its 15-year contracts with CBS and ESPN that will pay the league $3 billion. Fans of other conferences are convinced the SEC will do anything to keep teams undefeated so one SEC team will play in the BCS title game. That isn't true. The officials work hard and do their level-best to make the correct calls. Unfortunately for the SEC, every major disputed call this season has gone in favor of an undefeated team.
LSU got the first one on Oct. 3, when Georgia receiver A.J. Green was called for a mystifying excessive celebration penalty that forced the Bulldogs to kick off from their own 15. Buoyed by great field position, the Tigers marched for the winning touchdown and remained undefeated heading into their Oct. 10 matchup with top-ranked Florida.
Two weeks later, Arkansas threatened to knock Florida from the ranks of the unbeaten. The same crew that worked the LSU-Georgia game worked that game, and in the fourth quarter, with Florida down 20-13, referee Marc Curles flagged Arkansas defensive tackle Malcolm Sheppard for a personal foul when all Sheppard did was hit a Florida player who tried to block him during a play. Florida scored the tying touchdown on the next play and went on to win, 23-20.
SEC commissioner Mike Slive suspended Curles and his crew for three weeks after that call -- and several others in that game. Curles told ESPN.com that he was sick over the bad call on Sheppard.

Rest of it here:

LSU loss marred by missed-INT call - Andy Staples - SI.com

[Rebellious]

I don't understand why some fans feel like it some how diminishes the win to admit it was an awful call. There was a couple of Gator fans a weeks ago and now several Bama fans.

they are ruining the game.

Agreed. I hate LSU, but I hate watching any team get screwed more...especially now that there is replay. Years ago they had an excuse.

I'm with Dan Mullen; I honestly don't even know why we have replay.

[Robzilla]

First of all, he didn't have completion when the left foot came down. That's just completely inaccurate. The question was because he pulled it in and his right foot was just too close to call either way by that time. Even Danielson said it was because of the right foot. He didn't have possession when the left foot dragged.

We're going to have to hear this bullshit for years. I almost wish they'd have just given it to them.

[Rebellious]

Originally Posted by Robzilla

First of all, he didn't have completion when the left foot came down. That's just completely inaccurate. The question was because he pulled it in and his right foot was just too close to call either way by that time. Even Danielson said it was because of the right foot. He didn't have possession when the left foot dragged.

We're going to have to hear this bullshit for years. I almost wish they'd have just given it to them.

Disagree. He never juggled or bobbled the ball and his left foot was inbounds.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uplo...d26b95e6c1.pdf

c. To catch, intercept or recover a ball, a player who leaves his feet to
make a catch, interception or recovery must have the ball firmly in his
possession when he first returns to the ground inbounds with any part of
his body or is so held that the dead-ball provisions of Rule 4-1-3-p apply
(A.R. 2-2-7-I-V and A.R. 7-3-6-IV).

1. If one foot first lands inbounds and the receiver has possession
and control of the ball, it is a catch or interception even though a

subsequent step or fall takes the receiver out of bounds.

[Robzilla]

Originally Posted by Rebellious

Disagree. He never juggled or bobbled the ball and his left foot was inbounds.

He's got to pull in the ball to have possession there genius. He didn't have possession until the right foot came down. That's what they were looking for and it was too close to tell. Damn it was obvious his left foot was inbounds. Hell there was a 6 inch gash a foot away from the out of bounds line to prove that. The question was because he didn't officially gain possession until the right foot came down and it was too close to call.

You assholes try to get out there in a split second and try to make that call right on the field. Hell it was almost impossible to tell on replay.

[Ceman 22]

FWIW, and I know you guys are just chomping at the bit for me to rule on this...

I would have called it incomplete as well. It happened so fast and, to me, at first glance he looked like he was out before he had possession.

[wareagle1492]

Originally Posted by Robzilla

He's got to pull in the ball to have possession there genius. He didn't have possession until the right foot came down. That's what they were looking for and it was too close to tell. Damn it was obvious his left foot was inbounds. Hell there was a 6 inch gash a foot away from the out of bounds line to prove that. The question was because he didn't officially gain possession until the right foot came down and it was too close to call.

You assholes try to get out there in a split second and try to make that call right on the field. Hell it was almost impossible to tell on replay.

dude... everyone who saw the game that ISNT a bama fan knows it was an interception AND a bad call. idk if i believe the conspiracy theories but i do believe that the officials ruined an otherwise decently called game on the most critcal play of the game. bama won... maybe because of a bad call, maybe they wouldve won anyway no one can know, we just have to go with the final score. i do believe the officials should be fired.... yes for one call like that you should be fired.... only thing is it isnt the only call this year thats ruined a game...and they have all gone for undefeated teams. makes me sick. no days you have to win by 2 TDs to beat a team like bama because the officials will for sure ruin it if its any closer.

[Rebellious]

Originally Posted by Robzilla

He's got to pull in the ball to have possession there genius. He didn't have possession until the right foot came down. That's what they were looking for and it was too close to tell. Damn it was obvious his left foot was inbounds. Hell there was a 6 inch gash a foot away from the out of bounds line to prove that. The question was because he didn't officially gain possession until the right foot came down and it was too close to call.

You assholes try to get out there in a split second and try to make that call right on the field. Hell it was almost impossible to tell on replay.

No Einstein. There is no such thing as a "tuck" rule. There's a link above where you can read all about how a "catch" and an "interception" are defined by the NCAA. He caught the ball cleanly with his left foot in bounds and you can deny it all you want, but it doesn't make it so.

[wareagle1492]

Originally Posted by Ceman 22

FWIW, and I know you guys are just chomping at the bit for me to rule on this...

I would have called it incomplete as well. It happened so fast and, to me, at first glance he looked like he was out before he had possession.

yeah at first i would have too... but the play went to replay, where its obviously an interception. read that article up there. then go watch the play..... before responding.

[Robzilla]

Originally Posted by wareagle1492

dude... everyone who saw the game that ISNT a bama fan knows it was an interception AND a bad call. idk if i believe the conspiracy theories but i do believe that the officials ruined an otherwise decently called game on the most critcal play of the game. bama won... maybe because of a bad call, maybe they wouldve won anyway no one can know, we just have to go with the final score. i do believe the officials should be fired.... yes for one call like that you should be fired.... only thing is it isnt the only call this year thats ruined a game...and they have all gone for undefeated teams. makes me sick. no days you have to win by 2 TDs to beat a team like bama because the officials will for sure ruin it if its any closer.

Bottom line: Had the on the field call been an INT that call would have stood. There wasn't enough evidence to overturn the on the field call. You guys are trying to turn this shit into Arky/UF and it's not even close to being the same.

[Rebellious]

Originally Posted by Ceman 22

FWIW, and I know you guys are just chomping at the bit for me to rule on this...

I would have called it incomplete as well. It happened so fast and, to me, at first glance he looked like he was out before he had possession.

But we're talking about the replay official...at least I am. I agree that the it was a tough call for the refs on the field. However once again, official review ruined a great game that should have been decided by the players.