Anyone Know Why COL K Was Banned?

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I just noticed that our beloved Colonel Kurtz has been banned. I've had a couple of run-ins with COL K (as most of us old timers have at one time or another), but I have no idea why he was banned. I pulled up his post history and read his last few posts, but saw nothing significant enough to warrant a banning (unless I missed something).

None of the mods/admins really owe us an explanation (unless they want), but the question will come up eventually, I'm sure.

:confused:

[azamugg]

news to me

and if true........sux......

I love that ornery bastard

[smfr]

I never seen him be no more mouthy as anyone else

[smfr]

I think he was banned for calling a mod a dumbass

[dcbama]

I didn't realize he'd been banned. Best news I've heard all day. I never saw him do anything that warranted a banning, but I can't say I'll miss him, though I'm sure some will. To each his own, I suppose.

[smfr]

I dunno what all happened

[timNem]

that sucks

Bring the Colonel back

[Tennessee Ted]

I am not a big fan of banning, but one should not call anyone a dumbass on internet forums, much less a mod.

[smfr]

Don't quote me on that. that is just hear say.

[Benny]

I never minded Col K. With that said, his banning was completely justified.

There was more to it than just what has been mentioned in this thread.

[bulldawg]

I am not a big fan of banning, but one should not call anyone a dumbass on internet forums, much less a mod.

Um I think in the heat of an argument we have all said worse than that. I don't see anyone being so tender hearted that they banned someone for the dumbass remark.

I'm sure it was something a little more involved than that.

[azamugg]

it better have

[D^3]

Awww man..... Kurtzy was the guy I could depend on to do all the trash talking so I could sit back and just enjoy the results, all the while maintaining my reputation as only a "mild douchebag" :lol:

[Tennessee Ted]

Awww man..... Kurtzy was the guy I could depend on to do all the trash talking so I could sit back and just enjoy the results, all the while maintaining my reputation as only a "mild douchebag" :lol:

Yep, you are now the top Dawg douchebag now. :joke:

[smfr]

Who will take over if Triple D gets banned maybe....Jess

[shk999]

Awww man..... Kurtzy was the guy I could depend on to do all the trash talking so I could sit back and just enjoy the results, all the while maintaining my reputation as only a "mild douchebag" :lol:

A monumental day, the passing of the torch..I mean, douche. All hail D^3.
:D

[the Paradox]

Wow, this is news. I will miss the the old guy.


RTR

[ugafan48]

Who will take over if Triple D gets banned maybe....Jess

If D^3 gets banned, I'll shall leave this site. He gives me a damn good laugh all the time.

[Tider27]

D^3 will always be the biggest Dawg douchebag, in all of our hearts. :laugh:

I can honestly say I don't miss the Colonel. He was getting a little senile anyway...

[zartan]

your new sig is excellent, D^3.

[bigsexxxy]

I'm gonna take the staff's word on this one. They've been pretty chill since they've taken over and allowed the board to continue on like it always has, even allowing the old banned members a second chance. I feel pretty sure that Kurtzie didn't go down without a few choice words.

I'll miss the old guy, he always brought the high heat in debates. Or threw it in the eighth row, take your pick.

[AUTiger94]

Kurtz was one funny SOB. He'd piss you off debating pigball and then make you lighten up by inserting a rib busting funny like the 22 pound baby in Kansas that has never farted. Classic stuff.:D


Let's not ban all of th old folks. We are in a big enough minority around here as it is. Plus w/ Kurtz gone that just makes me seem older.;)

[JessJess6713]

Who will take over if Triple D gets banned maybe....Jess

Why not, I'm your man if you need me. Don't see D^3 getting the boot though. He's not nearly as hateful as Kurtz, and makes a lot of good posts.

Hey mods! I'm sure you don't want to go into the C Kurtz thing, but what are the things that you think people are most likely to think that they can get away with that will get them banned.

Hypothetically, if a super moderator was repeatedly making really blind and weak posts could I call him out, or would I be better off acting like I didn't notice the multitude and respond to them one by one?

[fernandomike]

I've had so many battles with the Colonel that some may be surprised to know that I actually like him. We almost always view social/political issues differently, but he has always been an aggressive, yet worthy adversary. I hate to see him banned, but those of us who know him probably realize that he could easily respond to an admin's warning with the same kind of spiteful tone that he is famous for. Most of the time, I had no problem with him. I'd like to see him back here, but I do trust that those in charge have made a reasonable decision. However reasonable, I do hope that his banning is not permanent. While things are obviously more chippy with the old man around, they are also a lot more interesting.

[Gator2753]

Im gonna miss old Calvin Klein.
He once called me a noob and at the time, I had been here for a year and a half and had 3,900 posts.
I came to learn that noob was one of his favorite words. He had other favorite words as well but we wont get into that.:)
A toast to a legend.:beer:

[RW13]

Just another reason why this site is so great!!!

[DELTOR]

No tears over here.

[volimhtown]

I've had so many battles with the Colonel that some may be surprised to know that I actually like him. We almost always view social/political issues differently, but he has always been an aggressive, yet worthy adversary. I hate to see him banned, but those of us who know him probably realize that he could easily respond to an admin's warning with the same kind of spiteful tone that he is famous for. Most of the time, I had no problem with him. I'd like to see him back here, but I do trust that those in charge have made a reasonable decision. However reasonable, I do hope that his banning is not permanent. While things are obviously more chippy with the old man around, they are also a lot more interesting.

Couldn't have said it better myself!! ;) I too had many differing opinions than did Kurtzy, but I always respected the hell out of the guy because regardless of how flawed I felt his view was, there was ALWAYS substance and a base to his opinion and argument and he was passionate about that of which he spoke of. Regardless of which side of the argument you were on, Kurtzy represented the element of substance beyond the 90% of mindless banter which keeps/kept us old timers coming here. This board is a MUCH BETTER place WITH him than without him! I too hope his banning is temporary....VERY temporary.
Now, I really hope this isn't a case of the substitute teacher punishing the class clown due to a lack of understanding. I/we know how the Col loves to push those buttons and isn't about to back down from anyone regardless of implied consequences. I just hope the mod/mods are keeping things in perspective and monitoring the pressure gauges of their egos. This site saw a mass exodus of VERY SOLID posters a few years back due to the mods' inflated egos and paper thin skin.... I sincerely hope history is not repeating itself!! :(

[RW13]

Couldn't have said it better myself!! ;) I too had many differing opinions than did Kurtzy, but I always respected the hell out of the guy because regardless of how flawed I felt his view was, there was ALWAYS substance and a base to his opinion and argument and he was passionate about that of which he spoke of. Regardless of which side of the argument you were on, Kurtzy represented the element of substance beyond the 90% of mindless banter which keeps/kept us old timers coming here. This board is a MUCH BETTER place WITH him than without him! I too hope his banning is temporary....VERY temporary.
Now, I really hope this isn't a case of the substitute teacher punishing the class clown due to a lack of understanding. I/we know how the Col loves to push those buttons and isn't about to back down from anyone regardless of implied consequences. I just hope the mod/mods are keeping things in perspective and monitoring the pressure gauges of their egos. This site saw a mass exodus of VERY SOLID posters a few years back due to the mods' inflated egos and paper thin skin.... I sincerely hope history is not repeating itself!! :(


You said it great Vol

[MBGamecock]

I never butted heads with him myself, however, I thoroughly enjoyed his posts. Bring him back!

[the Prodigy]

I never minded Col K. With that said, his banning was completely justified.

There was more to it than just what has been mentioned in this thread.

I didn't mind him either, and I doubt we ever agreed on anything.

Guess we have to take your word for it.... by the way, I'm missing some rep. If you see where I dropped it let me know.:thumpsup:

[D^3]

A monumental day, the passing of the torch..I mean, douche. All hail D^3.
:D


http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/270913943_d775923b1a.jpg

[SCRooster68]

Awww man..... Kurtzy was the guy I could depend on to do all the trash talking so I could sit back and just enjoy the results, all the while maintaining my reputation as only a "mild douchebag" :lol:

Don't sell yourself short. You are an exceptional douchebag. :p

[the Prodigy]

http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/270913943_d775923b1a.jpg

King of douche-bags is more like it.

[WayzUp]

Can the mods/admins enlighten us as to whether this is a permanent bannage or temporary bannage?

I'm not sure I've ever agreed with Kurtz either but I've always thought he brought more good than bad to any site he's posting on. And when he gives opinion on anything UGA-related, I surely listen cuz he's usually dead-on accurate with his info/opinions regarding his dawgs.

[volimhtown]

Don't sell yourself short. You are an exceptional douchebag. :p

Don't sell yourself short, Judge...You're a tremendous slouch!! :D

Watch at 1:11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HrObCw1qGw

[volimhtown]

WOW....I REALLY hope the reasoning I'm hearing isn't true!! :mad::mad::mad:

[Soccaplayamdg07]

Ok, I just read the entire thread. Did ANYONE agree with CK? :laugh:. He was a good man with a brave heart. R.I.P.

[volimhtown]

Bump....

[GatorHunter]

Couldn't have said it better myself!! ;) I too had many differing opinions than did Kurtzy, but I always respected the hell out of the guy because regardless of how flawed I felt his view was, there was ALWAYS substance and a base to his opinion and argument and he was passionate about that of which he spoke of. Regardless of which side of the argument you were on, Kurtzy represented the element of substance beyond the 90% of mindless banter which keeps/kept us old timers coming here. This board is a MUCH BETTER place WITH him than without him! I too hope his banning is temporary....VERY temporary.
Now, I really hope this isn't a case of the substitute teacher punishing the class clown due to a lack of understanding. I/we know how the Col loves to push those buttons and isn't about to back down from anyone regardless of implied consequences. I just hope the mod/mods are keeping things in perspective and monitoring the pressure gauges of their egos. This site saw a mass exodus of VERY SOLID posters a few years back due to the mods' inflated egos and paper thin skin.... I sincerely hope history is not repeating itself!! :(

We're not going to go into specifics...but CK "made his bed". Had nothing to do with "egos and paper thin skin" as you call it or power-trips or whatever. We have rules on this site...CK chose not to follow them. THE END.

[GatorHunter]

Hey mods! I'm sure you don't want to go into the C Kurtz thing, but what are the things that you think people are most likely to think that they can get away with that will get them banned.

Hypothetically, if a super moderator was repeatedly making really blind and weak posts could I call him out, or would I be better off acting like I didn't notice the multitude and respond to them one by one?

Call out anyone you choose...we're not here to be "big brother"...we're just here to make sure the site and posters are respected and show respect.

[shanksta13]

It was a legitimate banning, that's all that needs to be said.

[GeauxTo]

Can we refer to D3 as Klutz now? That's how I always referred to the Col.:p

[volimhtown]

We're not going to go into specifics...but CK "made his bed". Had nothing to do with "egos and paper thin skin" as you call it or power-trips or whatever. We have rules on this site...CK chose not to follow them. THE END.

OK...since we're going to speak out in the open, then let's get into specifics! I'm sure that most everybody operates under the same thought that if they "air their laundry" in private, it's assumed that it's done with no jeopardy. Since that obviously is not the case, I think it's only fair to everybody on this board that they understand that! Don't you agree??

[azamugg]

OK...since we're going to speak out in the open, then let's get into specifics! I'm sure that most everybody operates under the same thought that if they "air their laundry" in private, it's assumed that it's done with no jeopardy. Since that obviously is not the case, I think it's only fair to everybody on this board that they understand that! Don't you agree??


this is a valid point and a legitimate request.

[JerryBeeds]

He donkey punched Manshu alright. Are you satisfied now?:eek::D Seriously though, I'll miss the guy. I liked the cut of his jib. He did what he did though. He shoulda just let it go.

[the Paradox]

2 of the app. 13 Gator admins agree that the Col must die.

Something smells.

RTR

[volimhtown]

He shoulda just let it go.

Absolutely!! I can not defend that part....BUT, that works BOTH ways!! :(
And I'm sorry...I expect those of us that have been here this long to get the benefit of the doubt and for the mods to think long and hard about what's best for the board as a whole! That obviously was not done!! :mad:

[DJShockisBack]

This site is BS. Its just like the old SECtalk.

[JerryBeeds]

This site is BS. Its just like the old SECtalk.

That is completely untrue.

[DJShockisBack]

He called somone a dumbass, and he gets banned. The man has been on here for years.

[Benny]

He called somone a dumbass, and he gets banned. The man has been on here for years.

That isn't the reason he was banned. He used quite a few other words in addition to dumbass. As I said before, I had no problem whatsoever with Col K, but at the same time I stand by the decision that was made to ban him.

[gatorunvrsty]

2 of the app. 13 Gator admins agree that the Col must die.

Something smells.

RTR

I think that's your opinion.:eww: I also wasn't aware we had 13 Gator admins... I thought there was 1. Alright, who got promoted over me?!! :brick:

[shanksta13]

Yeah, whoever thinks it's a Gator thing is wrong. Colonel Klutz was one of the posters on here that I repped the most. The mods talked about it and it was agreed by the mods of several different school's that his actions warranted a ban. I don't like it any more than you do, but the rules are rules.

[GatorHunter]

Let it go, guys. Some of you are "assuming" that you know what happened...believe me, you're not even close.

[timNem]

What if we handed over another poster to the staff in exchange for the Colonel? Kinda like when the Sanhedrin made a trade for Barabus so they could crucify Jesus.

[shanksta13]

What if we handed over another poster to the staff in exchange for the Colonel? Kinda like when the Sanhedrin made a trade for Barabus so they could crucify Jesus.

Depends on who you have in mind... :laugh:

[Soccaplayamdg07]

I'll take one for the team. (note: if this doesn't work my valiant attempt to sacrifice myself deserves rep :laugh:)

[TDArkansasOhmy]

What if we handed over another poster to the staff in exchange for the Colonel? Kinda like when the Sanhedrin made a trade for Barabus so they could crucify Jesus.

Screw you Tim, I ain't going nowhere.

http://www.marketpsych.com/blog/uploaded_images/montyhall-772152.jpg

[gatorunvrsty]

I'll take one for the team. (note: if this doesn't work my valiant attempt to sacrifice myself deserves rep :laugh:)

Very brave... wrong team... we need a cur.;)

[DJShockisBack]

Blah.

[RW13]

That is completely untrue.

DJ has a point. I'm reading some of the stuff GatorHunter is writing and it's exactly the same as Dudeman in 2005. Seems the only thing to change is you beeds, you used to be a little different. You act like this is the supreme court or something, it's a message board, not the ICC.

[bulldawg]

So when we get rabid once the season gets underway should we be worried?? I think for the most part the arguments here are rather tame. Some name calling but nothing to bad.

[the Prodigy]

I've come to the conclusion that CK did something bad enough to get banned. Don't know what it was, don't care. I'm not going to stand up for the guy, he never did anything to warrant me standing up for him now. He wouldn't stand up for me. (cue D3) What the mods say is good enough for me. I think at this point it is obvious that he shouldn't come back and there isn't anything that is going to make any of the mods change their minds about that.

It's kind of like my friend... great guy, captains our Arkansas rugby team. (see you at the SEC tournament btw) He got a a DWI the other night. He's a great guy, but he F'd up. There isn't anything that he can do that is going to make that go away. And he is going to have to live with it. It doesn't matter who he is, what he did was wrong. It happens to a lot of people and they have to live with it.

I'm sure he'll get over it eventually and create another account months from now. And this will all go away.

[AuburnPawnTiger]

It sucks the guy got banned but from what I have seen on the boards lately you can get away with a whole lot more than before. "Dumbass" sees to be the insult of choice around here so we can assume that it wasn't because he called someone a "dumbass" It almost certainly has to be something much worse. Can the mods not tell us????? Just for future reference so the rest of us don't stray too far from "dumbass zone" which seems to be a safe haven

[GeauxTo]

My personal preference is "azzhole." I get a certain amount of pleasure in ascribing that term to an obvious "dumbass.":D

[AuburnPawnTiger]

how about dumbazz, that's kinda cool ...

[the Paradox]

DJ has a point. I'm reading some of the stuff GatorHunter is writing and it's exactly the same as Dudeman in 2005. Seems the only thing to change is you beeds, you used to be a little different. You act like this is the supreme court or something, it's a message board, not the ICC.

Ah, DudeMan, the best part of that guy ran down his mother's leg.


RTR

[TDArkansasOhmy]

Ah, DudeMan, the best part of that guy ran down his mother's leg.


RTR

$5 says you don't get ban for saying that. Must be nice having a High ranking official in your pocket.

[the Paradox]

$5 says you don't get ban for saying that. Must be nice having a High ranking official in your pocket.\

Old VD, only in America could Col. K get banned and yet the board is still subjected to your barely coherent ramblings and hate filled tirades.


RTR

[TDArkansasOhmy]

StupidGenus what's amazing is your presents back here. Keep trying to draw a negative picture of me toward the new owners to get points if that's all you know to do. Your hatred toward me and others with your ramblings should not only get you ban, but have a story done by NBC Dateline. How to catch a douche bag.
Pray tell, what did Manshu ever see you you? I wish they could be something done, or perhaps even said, to change you from the dreadful person you are.
Take a moment to smell the flowers of life. Sure beats being bitter and spreading hate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xryMJD9TKZQ

I know there's got to be something beautiful about you. Most of us haven't been able to see it since meeting you. My free advice to you is change your evil ways and don't practice you attitude in life as you do at message boards. Because if you continue to do so, someone someday will beat you like a narc at a bikers rally.

God bless & Good luck with a transformation to better yourself toward others.

[the Prodigy]

I'm afraid right now... I'm not sure if TD is a sociopath or just dyslexic.

[gatorunvrsty]

It sucks the guy got banned but from what I have seen on the boards lately you can get away with a whole lot more than before. "Dumbass" sees to be the insult of choice around here so we can assume that it wasn't because he called someone a "dumbass" It almost certainly has to be something much worse. Can the mods not tell us????? Just for future reference so the rest of us don't stray too far from "dumbass zone" which seems to be a safe haven

Well, that's kind of the thing... the mods will warn you when you're starting to stray. I don't know all the details, either; but, I know GH, and can pretty much promise the colonel wasn't banned out of nowhere suddenly, and without warning. The only people that get banned like that are spammers and people trying to create new accounts and slip back in after getting banned, i.e. CAD.

But, for future reference, here's a pretty good rule of thumb: If a mod PM's you, and says you're beginning to test the TOS, it's definitely not in your best interests to then insult a guy who could've hit you with an infraction rather than a warning. If you've already warranted an infraction, and you get one, don't turn it into a ban by acting the fool. Virtually everybody gets an infraction sooner or later, and they expire... this isn't like the criminal justice system where your felonies will follow you around inevitably. Most of the folks I know who've gotten an infraction have only gotten the one... then they figure out what's going on, and act accordingly.

Then there are the folks who can't act their age or IQ... or maybe they are, who knows.:laugh: The point is, very few folks get banned; and even fewer, like none, get banned for doing nothing. Personally, I had been getting along with CK lately, and hadn't had any run-ins with him at all. But, that hasn't always been the case; and maybe he went too far this time. Since GH is one of the more docile, grounded, and respected members of this forum; and has been around moderating ever since I joined this site, I have to defer to his judgement. I've never known it to be rash, unfair, biased, or questionable. Period.

[the Paradox]

A. Wow, that took some time trying to interrupt all of that broken English/hill billy.
Just get back to your sister and shine. I have extended the olive branch to you and your spat on it. As far as drawing a bad picture of you, you do a far better job of that than any artist I know.

2 Things beautiful things about me:
1. My uncanny read of character.
2. My Golf Swing.


RTR

[Baller]

Bring Kurtz back...

[GatorHunter]

DJ has a point. I'm reading some of the stuff GatorHunter is writing and it's exactly the same as Dudeman in 2005. Seems the only thing to change is you beeds, you used to be a little different. You act like this is the supreme court or something, it's a message board, not the ICC.

I was here in 2005 and remember Dudeman...what I've written is nothing like him. I've simply stated TOS.

And you're right...it's a message board with simple easy to follow rules. IMO, a poster has to "try" to get banned. It's not something any of us takes lightly and you can better believe if a poster gets banned...there's a good reason.

[DJShockisBack]

Colonel has been on here for 4-5 years...and now he is banned. Beeds and everyone else can jump the sectalk ship, but this is BS and everyone should know it.

[Benny]

DJ and Baller, if anyone is to know about bannings it is probably you two. You were both given second (probably third or fourth) chances so you know that the staff isn't just a hate filled bunch of idiots who ban people because they think it is funny. We are actually trying to improve the site, believe it or not. If one of us thinks that a certain action has to be taken for the majority of the members to continue civilized debate, then that action has to be taken.. not to mention if the action is in response to a direct violation of the rules set for the members on this site.

You have my word on a few things:
1) Colonel Kurtz violated some of the rules of this site.
2) He was warned several times after initial offenses.
3) He chose not to adhere to the warnings and correct his mistakes.
4) Most of the active members would agree with the decision if the offense was made known.

I don't know what else to say.. if we allow people to post whatever they want, there are going to be about 9 members on the site.

[D^3]

I've come to the conclusion that CK did something bad enough to get banned. Don't know what it was, don't care. I'm not going to stand up for the guy, he never did anything to warrant me standing up for him now. He wouldn't stand up for me. (cue D3) What the mods say is good enough for me. I think at this point it is obvious that he shouldn't come back and there isn't anything that is going to make any of the mods change their minds about that.

It's kind of like my friend... great guy, captains our Arkansas rugby team. (see you at the SEC tournament btw) He got a a DWI the other night. He's a great guy, but he F'd up. There isn't anything that he can do that is going to make that go away. And he is going to have to live with it. It doesn't matter who he is, what he did was wrong. It happens to a lot of people and they have to live with it.

I'm sure he'll get over it eventually and create another account months from now. And this will all go away.


Wow... good job of sucking up to the mods for banning a guy that coincidentally happened to be one of the guys that routinely puts you in your place.

Oh, and wipe that stuff off your chin, would ya?

[crimsonnation713]

Colonel has been on here for 4-5 years...and now he is banned. Beeds and everyone else can jump the sectalk ship, but this is bullshit and everyone should know it.

Do you know why CK was banned ??? Lemme see...no you dont.So why jump on Beeds or anybody else? Its not BS.You dont have a clue on what you're talking about.

[azamugg]

no one has answered............is he PERMANENTLY banned?

[gatorunvrsty]

Colonel has been on here for 4-5 years...and now he is banned. Beeds and everyone else can jump the sectalk ship, but this is BS and everyone should know it.

Before I edited your post, it was a fine example of one that I would PM somebody for, to remind them that we don't allow profanity on the site. Now, those rules have been relaxed somewhat to allow for certain words that aren't always profane in nature, like Hell; but, you can't spell out BS or FU... UF is fine, as long as you can spell it.;)

In any event, the members of this site continue to come here because it's less like some of the other adolescent-dominated sites where anything goes. In this particular case, you're not even privy to all the details of what happened; and are therefore not qualified to judge whether or not it was warranted.

And, what Beeds and others are doing is jumping ON the SECTalk ship... only the children are jumping ship, because they can't have their way, and follow a few simple rules. Benny is right... without moderation and administration, very little constructive and informative debate would take place here; and this would be just like any number of other shouting match sites for the short-bus crowd. We like some trash-talk, too, just like anybody else; but, as in any other aspect of life, there are limits, members know what they are, and we'll remind them when they forget.

[RW13]

It's just not a good idea to ban one of the few on here who actually has brains & is interesting. I almost never agree with Kurtz, however he actually brought substance to this board and other boards he is/was on. The more "talent" you remove from this site the more diluted it becomes with ppl who are: a. not funny b. not witty c. not smart (but of course everyone here believes that they are smart and can post links to prove it!!) I don't know how else to say it, but kicking Kurtz off hurts the site. Posters like him are what WOULD'VE separated sectalk.com from other plain white bread sports sites. We don't all need to hold hands and kiss. I have no idea why in 2008 America the men are all metrosexual, hall-mark cardesque, lifetime channel watching, napoleon dynamite quoting little girls. So what, a smarter, more knowledgable poster disagrees with you, that's tough. It's life. He was endowed with a better set of genes (intellectually anyways), let's encourage the use of that instead of the way america is going now (which is towing the company line). Free thought anybody?? Or is that a concept that died when Generation X was born........?

[JerryBeeds]

Colonel has been on here for 4-5 years...and now he is banned. Beeds and everyone else can jump the sectalk ship, but this is BS and everyone should know it.

I don't like it anymore than you do but I also am privy to details that you aren't. Also, I've talked with Kurtz on another site and it is highly unlikely that he would ever come back even if he were unbanned. He's a man with a considerable amount of pride and I think no matter what happens with his situation here, he is unlikely to return.

[GatorHunter]

It's just not a good idea to ban one of the few on here who actually has brains & is interesting. I almost never agree with Kurtz, however he actually brought substance to this board and other boards he is/was on. The more "talent" you remove from this site the more diluted it becomes with ppl who are: a. not funny b. not witty c. not smart (but of course everyone here believes that they are smart and can post links to prove it!!) I don't know how else to say it, but kicking Kurtz off hurts the site. Posters like him are what WOULD'VE separated sectalk.com from other plain white bread sports sites. We don't all need to hold hands and kiss. I have no idea why in 2008 America the men are all metrosexual, hall-mark cardesque, lifetime channel watching, napoleon dynamite quoting little girls. So what, a smarter, more knowledgable poster disagrees with you, that's tough. It's life. He was endowed with a better set of genes (intellectually anyways), let's encourage the use of that instead of the way america is going now (which is towing the company line). Free thought anybody?? Or is that a concept that died when Generation X was born........?

RW...I totally respect your opinion. You are one of the few posters that have been here longer than me and you of all people know how this site has evolved. However, just because you "like" a poster...or he/she has well thought, intellectual posts...doesn't mean that poster is above the rules. I'll say it one last time...he chose this path...not me or any other mod or admin.

[RW13]

I don't like it anymore than you do but I also am privy to details that you aren't. Also, I've talked with Kurtz on another site and it is highly unlikely that he would ever come back even if he were unbanned. He's a man with a considerable amount of pride and I think no matter what happens with his situation here, he is unlikely to return.

could you PM the name of that site?

[Gator2753]

Colonel has been on here for 4-5 years...and now he is banned. Beeds and everyone else can jump the sectalk ship, but this is BS and everyone should know it.

Some months ago, I remember reading your posts on another site and all you did was talk trash about this site and the mods. How you had a ton of posts and rep and then you were wrongfully banned. :rolleyes: Yeah im sure you did nothing to warrant that.
Its funny how some of you get your panties in a wad, leave the site or get banned, and complain over at another site about how the mods here are like nazis. All the while most of you would want to come back here. Its like rats jumping off of a ship, only the ship isnt sinking. In fact, its the best ship anywhere, and when the rats realize they cant find anything better, they all swim back.
Where are you guys going to go this time? There is no SECillustrated any more and that was the only other decent non-homer site around.
Do some of you really think that CK was banned just b/c he had a different opinion than a mod? Do you really think that there isnt even a slight chance that CK may have insulted someone personally and resorted to name calling?
Anyone who has to resort to name calling and personal insults, just b/c they run into confrontation or disagree with someone on a message board, is really lacking in social skills and class IMO.
Kudos to all the Mods and Admins who are keeping this place civil during what I thought would be a rough transition and not letting it turn into a typical teenage name calling forum. Kudos to the new owners as well, you guys have exceeded my expectations:thumpsup:

[azamugg]

one more time


does anyone know if his ban is permanent?

[RW13]

one more time


does anyone know if his ban is permanent?

I don't know.

[fernandomike]

I, like Beeds, am privy to what the Colonel said. Guys the banning was justified, plain and simple. I like the site better with him here, but I don't think anyone can legitimately call into question GH's judgment on this one. You'll have to trust the staff on that one.
Now, if members want to make pleas on his behalf, then so be it. But, I don't think it is fair to assume that he did nothing worthy of banning when all of us know how the Colonel can be. When he is good, he is as good as anyone here. When he is bad, he is the worst. He got banned for the later part.

[azamugg]

Is it a permanent ban?

[fernandomike]

Is it a permanent ban?

I'm not sure.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Dang azamugg.......If you want to know whether the ban is permanent or not, why the heck don't you just come right out and ask?

[volimhtown]

Do some of you really think that CK was banned just b/c he had a different opinion than a mod? Do you really think that there isnt even a slight chance that CK may have insulted someone personally and resorted to name calling?
Anyone who has to resort to name calling and personal insults, just b/c they run into confrontation or disagree with someone on a message board, is really lacking in social skills and class IMO.
Kudos to all the Mods and Admins who are keeping this place civil during what I thought would be a rough transition and not letting it turn into a typical teenage name calling forum.

I think you and some others are missing the point! "lacking in social skills and class" are NOT valid reasons to justify banning someone. Hell, there'd be VERY few posters on this board if that was a prerequisite! :D
Furthermore, I have ZERO doubt that CK resorted to personal insults and name calling. I guarantee he did! The next person that tells me that they haven't been a "victim" of such from CK will be the first! ;) I also have every bit of confidence that if I were a Mod and I PM'd CK telling him to back off the language or insults that I would get a response full of insults and bad language. I would expect this because I have been here long enough to KNOW what to expect and CK has been here long enough that you'd know what to expect. Now, I'm not condoning this, but I also feel very strongly that since CK had been allowed to be here so long "being himself" that he felt like everyone understood that he was all bark and no bight.
As far as "getting panties in a wad", that's exactly why some us old timers are so upset. Why this particular instance and why now?? He'd been allowed to attack folks personally for years...and in the forum at that. But now we're to believe that he did/said something unacceptable and worthy of a ban in a PM?? :rolleyes: Oh, OK!! You see what I mean?? Someone got their panties in a wad all right.... that I completely agree with!! :cool: But the bottom line is you can say that CK acted in a juvenile and immature manner all you want, just don't expect me to also buy or believe that the immature and juvenile reaction was somehow justified.
Look....it's over and done with and life goes on. CK wouldn't EVER come back here at this point anyway, and frankly I don't blame him one bit. Just stop insulting us by going to the TOS card and trying to justify the banning as some sort of act to insure and promote civility....because it's CRAP and we all know it!! :mad: Good God, we could go through CK's posts over the years and probably find hundreds of examples where he violated the TOS and resorted to personal attacks. But he somehow crossed the line this time?? :rolleyes: I don't/wouldn't want this board to be "governed" by black and white rules, but you folks in charge really should choose one way or the other and let us all know which it is and to whom they pertain to.
Like I said, it's over with and this will be my last post on the issue. We lost some awesome posters a few years back because of poor moderating and we've now lost another due to the same. I realize that it's not always easy to be the bigger person 100% of the time and to keep things in perspective, but hopefully this incident will serve as a reminder of the negative effects of not doing so. SECTalk.com is a lesser board today as a result!! :(

[MBGamecock]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEH_ms8d1ws

[azamugg]

I think you and some others are missing the point! "lacking in social skills and class" are NOT valid reasons to justify banning someone. Hell, there'd be VERY few posters on this board if that was a prerequisite! :D
Furthermore, I have ZERO doubt that CK resorted to personal insults and name calling. I guarantee he did! The next person that tells me that they haven't been a "victim" of such from CK will be the first! ;) I also have every bit of confidence that if I were a Mod and I PM'd CK telling him to back off the language or insults that I would get a response full of insults and bad language. I would expect this because I have been here long enough to KNOW what to expect and CK has been here long enough that you'd know what to expect. Now, I'm not condoning this, but I also feel very strongly that since CK had been allowed to be here so long "being himself" that he felt like everyone understood that he was all bark and no bight.
As far as "getting panties in a wad", that's exactly why some us old timers are so upset. Why this particular instance and why now?? He'd been allowed to attack folks personally for years...and in the forum at that. But now we're to believe that he did/said something unacceptable and worthy of a ban in a PM?? :rolleyes: Oh, OK!! You see what I mean?? Someone got their panties in a wad all right.... that I completely agree with!! :cool: But the bottom line is you can say that CK acted in a juvenile and immature manner all you want, just don't expect me to also buy or believe that the immature and juvenile reaction was somehow justified.
Look....it's over and done with and life goes on. CK wouldn't EVER come back here at this point anyway, and frankly I don't blame him one bit. Just stop insulting us by going to the TOS card and trying to justify the banning as some sort of act to insure and promote civility....because it's CRAP and we all know it!! :mad: Good God, we could go through CK's posts over the years and probably find hundreds of examples where he violated the TOS and resorted to personal attacks. But he somehow crossed the line this time?? :rolleyes: I don't/wouldn't want this board to be "governed" by black and white rules, but you folks in charge really should choose one way or the other and let us all know which it is and to whom they pertain to.
Like I said, it's over with and this will be my last post on the issue. We lost some awesome posters a few years back because of poor moderating and we've now lost another due to the same. I realize that it's not always easy to be the bigger person 100% of the time and to keep things in perspective, but hopefully this incident will serve as a reminder of the negative effects of not doing so. SECTalk.com is a lesser board today as a result!! :(




couldnt have said it nearly as well Vol..............I would like an explanation to, not that I deserve it, but I don't wanna be the victim of an arbitrary banning because Im being the same person I have since I signed on......for us old timers here, this is like a family and there are certain posters here that you can look at like family members..........meaning you know who they are and how they are and you have to take them w/a grain of salt

Vol hit the nail on the head ....the colonel is who he is, never any surprises, he pretty much says on the board what he would say in a pm, dude doesnt pull punches, speaks his mind and even if you think he likes you, he'll hammer you the next day

USCRebel now Colonel

[RW13]

whoa, did someone actually ban uscrebel?? That was a collossal (sp?) screwup if so....

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

whoa, did someone actually ban uscrebel?? That was a collossal (sp?) screwup if so....
No, I don't believe he was ever banned (I checked the member list to make sure). I believe he got fed up with a few things on here and left. That's one guy I wish would come back. Some of his posts were worth paying for. :(

[azamugg]

whoa, did someone actually ban uscrebel?? That was a collossal (sp?) screwup if so....

no but someone deleted a thread of his based on political opinion and reb split because of it when the mod said "like it or not"

[RW13]

no but someone deleted a thread of his based on political opinion and reb split because of it when the mod said "like it or not"

They had no clue what type of gift uscreb was. Everyone's brains put together on here wouldn't match that guy's.....

[volimhtown]

No, I don't believe he was ever banned (I checked the member list to make sure). I believe he got fed up with a few things on here and left. That's one guy I wish would come back. Some of his posts were worth paying for. :(

They had no clue what type of gift uscreb was. Everyone's brains put together on here wouldn't match that guy's.....

AMEN and a second to both of those posts!! :thumpsup:

[azamugg]

Im wondering if the ban was temporary or permanent.............................?!

[DJShockisBack]

Im wondering if the ban was temporary or permanent.............................?!

Nobody wants to answer you. But beeds just said that he will never come back either way.

[aufan]

Then there are the folks who can't act their age or IQ... or maybe they are, who knows.:laugh: .


In that case---I think some of us can come up with a list of people here to get banned :D

[JerryBeeds]

Im wondering if the ban was temporary or permanent.............................?!

It is to my understanding that it is permanent.

[TDArkansasOhmy]

couldnt have said it nearly as well Vol..............I would like an explanation to, not that I deserve it, but I don't wanna be the victim of an arbitrary banning because Im being the same person I have since I signed on......for us old timers here, this is like a family and there are certain posters here that you can look at like family members..........meaning you know who they are and how they are and you have to take them w/a grain of salt

Vol hit the nail on the head ....the colonel is who he is, never any surprises, he pretty much says on the board what he would say in a pm, dude doesnt pull punches, speaks his mind and even if you think he likes you, he'll hammer you the next day

USCRebel now Colonel

Well said. I can't agree with you more,

http://www.andygriffithshow.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10013/normal_Noyelltable.jpg

ya hear that boys, Mr. azamugg says wez like family. So always use your manners when wez having a sit down dinner with him....BREAD!

[lacene]

Geez......are we still having these threads here?? Somewhere on one of his million blogs, Chris is laughing his head off.......

It's a crying shame that the Colonel will no longer be posting here......he is one of the few here of my age that I can understand......even if I hardly ever understood him....plus I had all this great stuff I was going to throw his way on Sept. 13th after his Bullpups lose to the Mighty Gamecocks!! I guess I'll have to get that other site's location PM'd to me from Beeds....

As far as this thread.....it's funny how things change, and yet still remain the same.....

[Jay Bee]

Geez......are we still having these threads here?? Somewhere on one of his million blogs, Chris is laughing his head off.......

It's a crying shame that the Colonel will no longer be posting here......he is one of the few here of my age that I can understand......even if I hardly ever understood him....plus I had all this great stuff I was going to throw his way on Sept. 13th after his Bullpups lose to the Mighty Gamecocks!! I guess I'll have to get that other site's location PM'd to me from Beeds....

As far as this thread.....it's funny how things change, and yet still remain the same.....

Next will probably be the NEW SEC board that folks will migrate to. The wheel keeps turning, round and round..

WDE!
jb

[TDArkansasOhmy]

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6332/drugsrbadxe8.jpg

[GatorHunter]

I think you and some others are missing the point! "lacking in social skills and class" are NOT valid reasons to justify banning someone. Hell, there'd be VERY few posters on this board if that was a prerequisite! :D
Furthermore, I have ZERO doubt that CK resorted to personal insults and name calling. I guarantee he did! The next person that tells me that they haven't been a "victim" of such from CK will be the first! ;) I also have every bit of confidence that if I were a Mod and I PM'd CK telling him to back off the language or insults that I would get a response full of insults and bad language. I would expect this because I have been here long enough to KNOW what to expect and CK has been here long enough that you'd know what to expect. Now, I'm not condoning this, but I also feel very strongly that since CK had been allowed to be here so long "being himself" that he felt like everyone understood that he was all bark and no bight.
As far as "getting panties in a wad", that's exactly why some us old timers are so upset. Why this particular instance and why now?? He'd been allowed to attack folks personally for years...and in the forum at that. But now we're to believe that he did/said something unacceptable and worthy of a ban in a PM?? :rolleyes: Oh, OK!! You see what I mean?? Someone got their panties in a wad all right.... that I completely agree with!! :cool: But the bottom line is you can say that CK acted in a juvenile and immature manner all you want, just don't expect me to also buy or believe that the immature and juvenile reaction was somehow justified.
Look....it's over and done with and life goes on. CK wouldn't EVER come back here at this point anyway, and frankly I don't blame him one bit. Just stop insulting us by going to the TOS card and trying to justify the banning as some sort of act to insure and promote civility....because it's CRAP and we all know it!! :mad: Good God, we could go through CK's posts over the years and probably find hundreds of examples where he violated the TOS and resorted to personal attacks. But he somehow crossed the line this time?? :rolleyes: I don't/wouldn't want this board to be "governed" by black and white rules, but you folks in charge really should choose one way or the other and let us all know which it is and to whom they pertain to.
Like I said, it's over with and this will be my last post on the issue. We lost some awesome posters a few years back because of poor moderating and we've now lost another due to the same. I realize that it's not always easy to be the bigger person 100% of the time and to keep things in perspective, but hopefully this incident will serve as a reminder of the negative effects of not doing so. SECTalk.com is a lesser board today as a result!! :(

My last post on this subject...and it's pretty much a repeat...but it's funny...this is not a public board owned by a community. It's a members only board and the only "dues" required is in the form of responsible posting...follow the rules and you'll never have any problems. The rules are very relaxed as well...but some posters go above and beyond the rules...and when they are warned...they choose to act like children instead of responsible adults....again, some of you guys "think" you know what happened....you've "assumed" you know what happened...and are basing your judgments on these "assumptions" and "thoughts"...you couldn't be more wrong. Good night.:)

[Bulldog Bry]

Could there BE any more high fives on a single thread?

[shk999]

It's time to let the cat out of the bag so here goes. He was banned for being a UGA fan and for saying dumbass. There you have it, if you dont want to get banned, dont pull for Georgia and dont say dumbass.
:dry:




:laugh: :laugh:

[Gator2753]

Bulldog Bry is the man! No doubt. If you all agree with me, show him some love and give him a high five :D

[AUTiger94]

It's time to let the cat out of the bag so here goes. He was banned for being a UGA fan and for saying dumbass. There you have it, if you dont want to get banned, dont pull for Georgia and dont say dumbass.
:dry:




:laugh: :laugh:

What if you pull for Auburn and you say Dipsh#t? Is that better or worse?:laugh:

[gatorunvrsty]

What if you pull for Auburn and you say Dipsh#t? Is that better or worse?:laugh:

Nothing will happen to you for being self-depracating... everybody already knows if you pull for AU, you're a dipsh*t. We're not so cruel that we'd heap punishment on somebody already punishing himself.;)

[crimsonnation713]

What if you pull for Auburn and you say Dipsh#t? Is that better or worse?:laugh:

NO SOUP FOR YOU

[TDArkansasOhmy]

My last post on this subject...and it's pretty much a repeat...but it's funny...this is not a public board owned by a community. It's a members only board and the only "dues" required is in the form of responsible posting...follow the rules and you'll never have any problems. The rules are very relaxed as well...but some posters go above and beyond the rules...and when they are warned...they choose to act like children instead of responsible adults....again, some of you guys "think" you know what happened....you've "assumed" you know what happened...and are basing your judgments on these "assumptions" and "thoughts"...you couldn't be more wrong. Good night.:)

Nice final post on the subject Hunter, and you made good points. Well said. Still they are still tones of,
We have a secret......and ......We're not telling....
It's that sort of thing that makes most of us a bit uncomfortable by some of the authority in here. Hell, I don't have a problem with Moderators doing their jobs, just do it without acting as if you have something over us. I recall several times which a member would simply ask a question over a members banning, and the reply he would get to his question was something sharp like, We'll look into it. Real CIA/FBI path IMO.
I'm in no way signaling you out for doing these practices but just making a point as a hole in general. Like some posters, certain moderator are also a different breed of animal here. And We have to make the proper adjustments to better understand them.
Because of my pass dealings in the matter I found it offensive and thought the staff member was more or less showing his authority and power to do away with me because he decided to take the "Because I said so" approach. And that reasoning alone is enough to rile anyone enough to say or do things he regrets later. In my case, it was like being poked with a stick. Just to get a negative reaction with me.
As the older members here can attest to, I'm not the same hothead I once was after being poked with the matrix stick. I have since learn to play with the other kids on the monkey bars and now all is well on the playground. Hopefully with a brief timeout and perhaps a administrator making the first move to extend a olive branch, we may be lucky enough to save yet another long time contributor of this joint and all can save face in the matter.
I'll close by saying, I think both members and Moderators have come a long way in recent years. It now seems that, both can now exist and better communicate much more than ever before. Please don't return to the [B]Cop walking the beat/B] mentality. Looking for trouble and using your stick, no doubt, you'll find it. I have heard more than once since the peaceful takeover that the goals are to better this site for the future. What better way than to start by investigating this case deeper and deciding if this long time member is worth losing.

[Bburton86]

I am really against banning people. I'm on another board about 3x the size of this with one admin and one mod. No problems. Very 'user policed.'

[TDArkansasOhmy]

I am really against banning people. I'm on another board about 3x the size of this with one admin and one mod. No problems. Very 'user policed.'

What kind of board is it. Bible study group or cross titch knitting party? Hell feller its a jungle in here. If we don't get enough enforcement in here someone might steal something from the front desk. Then we're screw. It will snow ball from there. When you get back to your site you love so much, tell Aunt Bee Gomer says Hey.