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Because everyone else is doing one.... I thought I'd throw mine into the mix. Let me preface this by saying this is where I think all of these teams will FINISH.
1. UGA
2. USCw.
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Florida
6. Clemson
7. Missouri
8. Arizona State
9. Virginia Tech
10. Michigan
11. BYU
12. Alabama
13. West Virginia
14. Auburn
15. Florida State
16. Texas Tech
17. South Carolina
18. UCLA
19. LSU
20. Notre Dame
21. Tennessee
22. Kansas
23. Washington
24. Mississippi State
25. Fresno State
Now go ahead and rip into it.
JessJess6713
07-10-2008, 12:07 AM
Again with the V Tech in the top ten. Everyone seems to think so.. maybe I'm wrong.
I just think that the defense lost to much, and the offense doesn't have enough push.
FSU above LSU????
Notre Dame AND Fresno State???!!??? Don't let Schlabauch get in your head
I guess it's easy to dog some else's top 25, maybe I'll take some time with it and throw one up there tomorrow. It's not fair to pick unless you put yours out there too.
nellanaesp
07-10-2008, 05:33 AM
That seems pretty reasonable, but I still think there will be more SEC teams in the top 15, like Alabama and South Carolina, who are tossups and no one really knows how they will do this year...
What I just said makes no sense at all... :crazy:
Choctaw
07-10-2008, 10:28 AM
Alabama, FSU, S. Carolina finish ahead of LSU???
Fresno State and Notre Dame in the top 25???
It looks like you listed your top 5 and then just gave up.
FiftytwoTwentyForever
07-10-2008, 10:35 AM
Oh My God. You put UGA 1... You MUST be a HOMER.
GeauxTo
07-10-2008, 10:57 AM
Well, so much for your football acumen!
:rofl::crazy::welcome::throwcomp:stooges:
GeauxTo
07-10-2008, 11:04 AM
this is where I think all of these teams will FINISH.
Then why didn't you title it something other than D^3's Pre-season Top 25???
:cool:
ColonelKurtz
07-10-2008, 11:44 AM
No 7-5/6-6 team has EVER finished that high in the Top 25 as you have bammer, roflmao! ASU & VT in the Top 10???
Hire an expert to watch the games with you so that they can explain what all those guys flying around are doing, ok?
DJShockisBack
07-10-2008, 02:37 PM
Michigan???Why are they in there?
Gator2753
07-10-2008, 02:57 PM
Michigan???Why are they in there?
No idea, but given the level of competition in the big 10...I can see it.
TiGeRTeRRoR
07-10-2008, 03:33 PM
Let me preface this by saying this is where I think all of these teams will FINISH.
So a non-preseason preseason poll? OK.
1. UGA
Of course. Let's not look at the brutal schedule they have to go through. Yes, they have a team talented enough to win, but every game with that schedule? Won't happen whether they play better on the road or not. I will give them a top 5 finish though.
9. Virginia Tech I agree with the other poster. Losing your two defensive leaders is never a good thing. And although they are in the weak ACC, they'll lose a couple games until Tyrod is able to carry the load for the team. He played the majority of the year last year, but had an experienced RB to hand off to until March when Ore was kicked off the team. VT will need Tyrod to step up big, a young RB to step up big, as well as the defense to maintain their performance from last year (-LSU) while losing its two best players.
11. BYU Surely you know, since your team played the worst BCS Bowl-participating team last year, that everyone was waiting for Hawaii to lose one game so they could drop them like a bad habit in the polls. The same applies for BYU, as their a mid-major conference team who would have to go nearly undefeated to finish where you have them. They play UCLA and Washington early, which already starts them with a strong possibility of two losses. It's doubtful they go undefeated in conference play as well. Also due to Hawaii's poor showing, coaches and the media will be hesitant to move BYU up the polls with wins to avoid another boring BCS performance.
12. Alabama This team lost to ULM last year in Nick Saban's "9/11" game. Sure, they gave LSU a good fight but they lost focus afterwards. They played pretty bad almost all year as well. As a non-Saban hating LSU fan, I believe he will turn the program around, unfortunately, but it won't be this year. Losses at LSU (in a game where crowd noise will give Nick Saban nightmares), in Atlanta vs. Clemson, at Georgia (which I'm assuming you've already considered), and I'm sure another dissapointing performance or two . This team will improve and be more disciplined, but not nearly top 10 disciplined.
17. South Carolina High up in the rankings with their once in every two year win over UGA, I assume?
19. LSU You wish. The jealousy is seeping out of your pores. A 19th ranked finish would require 4 maybe even 5 losses for the defending champs. I see a loss at Florida and one loss against UGA, Bama, or Auburn. Four and five losses won't happen. We may not know who our QB as of right now, but we have the WRs, RBs, and OL to carry him.
20. Notre Dame Even Touchdown Jesus can't save this team anytime soon. Last year, they gave up. They thought they'd win games based on their tradition and expected games to be handed to them. Clausen was awful last year and unless he has a Bradford or McCoy-like breakout year, ND will finish nowhere near the top 25.
24. Mississippi State They still don't have the talent to compete every game in the SEC. Croom is doing a great job and is a coach I'm really rooting for, but I think Miss St. is still a year or two away from top 25 finishes. They will make another bowl this year and it'd be nice to see them get 8 wins.
25. Fresno State If Fresno wins a couple of their tough out of conference games and wins their conference, top 25 is reasonable.
I disagree with this "preseason" top 25 more than any other I've seen so far. A lot of the rankings don't even make sense.
KHVols1387
07-10-2008, 05:02 PM
One of the worst top 25s I have ever seen. Georgia will not win it all. Alabama will not finish in the top 25 let alone the top 15. South Carolina is way too high while Tennessee is way too low. LSU is way too low while Notre Dame will once again be left out of the top 25. The only thing I do agree on is that Mississippi State will end up in the top 25 just because I think Croom can get it done.
nellanaesp
07-10-2008, 05:33 PM
Wow, where are you D? DEFEND YOUR HONOR! :laugh:
GeauxTo
07-10-2008, 05:36 PM
Wow, where are you D? DEFEND YOUR HONOR! :laugh:
He's roaming the bars of Athens wondering what got into his feeble mind.:D
Coqui
07-10-2008, 05:41 PM
I can see the reasoning and/or agree with a lot of your picks...but, i find it odd that you left Texas out of the top 25. Personally, i think that they are a "sleeper" NC team, as much of a sleeper as a UT team can be
TiGeRTeRRoR
07-10-2008, 05:59 PM
i find it odd that you left Texas out of the top 25. Personally, i think that they are a "sleeper" NC team, as much of a sleeper as a UT team can be
Completely forgot about them. They're definitely a top 25 preseason team and I agree on the "sleeper" NC team.
How could D^3 fit Texas in though with teams like Notre Dame and Bama?
dcbama
07-10-2008, 08:03 PM
One of the worst top 25s I have ever seen. Georgia will not win it all. Alabama will not finish in the top 25 let alone the top 15. South Carolina is way too high while Tennessee is way too low. LSU is way too low while Notre Dame will once again be left out of the top 25. The only thing I do agree on is that Mississippi State will end up in the top 25 just because I think Croom can get it done.
Correct me if I am wrong, but we did beat the hell out of you last year. I think 12 is high for us this year, but you're kidding yourself if you think UT will finish much higher than us, if at all.
Bama or go home
07-10-2008, 08:38 PM
being a Bama fan, I like it!
Wow, where are you D? DEFEND YOUR HONOR! :laugh:
Well, I, like every other poster here... isn't paid to make predictions, so I have to go make that cheddah at my j-o-b.
But I will now defend my rankings in the following post.
One of the worst top 25s I have ever seen. Georgia will not win it all. Alabama will not finish in the top 25 let alone the top 15. South Carolina is way too high while Tennessee is way too low. LSU is way too low while Notre Dame will once again be left out of the top 25. The only thing I do agree on is that Mississippi State will end up in the top 25 just because I think Croom can get it done.
1. Georgia WILL win it all. I'm not the only person who is putting them #1, so you can take your homer arguments elsewhere. Everyone bitching about that can blow me... take up your argument with nearly every other pollster in the f___ing country.
2. Alabama is my pick to win the SEC West. Again, you have a 3 horse race for the West between LSU, Auburn and ALabama, and I think both LSU and Auburn are too young at key positions to win it. I do NOT think it is unreasonable to predict Bama to go 9-3... they lost all their games last year by a TD or less. Thus I have Bama at 12. You are the moron here if you think they WON'T finish in the top 25. STFU and take your hillbilly hate elsewhere.
3. Where was South Carolina in the polls last year before injuries dragged them down? You telling me they CAN'T do it again? I have South Carolina beating LSU at home, and finishing 3rd in the East, AHEAD of UT.
4. Tennessee I have finishing 4th in the East. Thus, the low ranking.
5. LSU will finish 3rd in the West, with losses to Alabama, Auburn, Georgia and South Carolina.
6. Every football fan in the country knows Notre Dame gets too much love in the polls. Look at their schedule. Not many powerhouses in that lineup. It wouldn't be hard for them to go 8-4.
7. I'm glad you agree with me on MSU. Now piss off.
Michigan???Why are they in there?
Michigan is loaded with the best talent in the Big 10 aside from tOSU. With a damn good coach like Rich Rod, and a schedule softer than a baby's bottom, look for the media favorite Wolverines to make their way back into the limelight.
Again with the V Tech in the top ten. Everyone seems to think so.. maybe I'm wrong.
I just think that the defense lost to much, and the offense doesn't have enough push.
FSU above LSU????
Notre Dame AND Fresno State???!!??? Don't let Schlabauch get in your head
I guess it's easy to dog some else's top 25, maybe I'll take some time with it and throw one up there tomorrow. It's not fair to pick unless you put yours out there too.
A few of you complaining about VA Tech at #9. But consider the strength of the ACC. Aside from Clemson, who is there? Look at their schedule:
East Carolina
GA Tech
Furman
UNC
Nebraska
Western Kentucky
Boston College
Florida State
Maryland
Miami
Duke
Virginia
The hokies may not play a ranked opponent until week 8. They could EASILY go 10-2 or better playing this schedule.
Then why didn't you title it something other than D^3's Pre-season Top 25???
:cool:
Because thats what a pre-season poll is, geauxmer.
TiGeRTeRRoR
07-10-2008, 11:56 PM
1. Georgia WILL win it all. I'm not the only person who is putting them #1, so you can take your homer arguments elsewhere. Everyone bitching about that can blow me... take up your argument with nearly every other pollster in the f___ing country.
2. Alabama is my pick to win the SEC West. Again, you have a 3 horse race for the West between LSU, Auburn and ALabama, and I think both LSU and Auburn are too young at key positions to win it. I do NOT think it is unreasonable to predict Bama to go 9-3... they lost all their games last year by a TD or less. Thus I have Bama at 12. You are the moron here if you think they WON'T finish in the top 25. STFU and take your hillbilly hate elsewhere.
3. Where was South Carolina in the polls last year before injuries dragged them down? You telling me they CAN'T do it again? I have South Carolina beating LSU at home, and finishing 3rd in the East, AHEAD of UT.
4. Tennessee I have finishing 4th in the East. Thus, the low ranking.
5. LSU will finish 3rd in the West, with losses to Alabama, Auburn, Georgia and South Carolina.
6. Every football fan in the country knows Notre Dame gets too much love in the polls. Look at their schedule. Not many powerhouses in that lineup. It wouldn't be hard for them to go 8-4.
7. I'm glad you agree with me on MSU. Now piss off.
1. The problem is you have no doubt Georgia will win the NC. You can't even admit, with the toughest schedule in the nation UGA will probably have two losses and have to hope for others to lose as well.
2. Well that's a horrible prediction. You have a two horse race and Alabama isn't in it. @ Georgia, @ Arkansas, @ LSU, @ Tennessee (You Bulldogs should know the effect of playing there), not to mention a game against Auburn, which even Helen Keller knows Auburn is on a bit of a streak in the series.
5. So we'll lose to the Gumps, because the game was close last year. Tiger Stadium is not a factor. Got it.
We'll lose to Auburn...because they're implementing a completely new offense, and like us have no idea who their QB is. We have the better defense as well. Usually Auburn is better in the beginning of the year and fades as the year goes on, but not this year. Sure, bring up home field but LSU is slightly more talented than Auburn which is not the case with LSU-Bama.
We'll lose to South Carolina, well I have no idea why anyone thinks we'll lose to them. Spurrier has proven he's not what he used to be. Their defense isn't good enough to stop our WRs or Keiland. And their offense could barely score last year.
We'll lose to Georgia, well at least there's some validity to LSU losing to a top 5 team.
At least say we'll lose to Florida or something instead of South Carolina or Bama.
6. Just because the media gives Notre Dame too much credit doesn't mean you have to. Probable losses against: Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Washington, Pittsburgh, Boston College, and USC. Every single one of those teams is better than ND and they showed no one last year that they could play better than they really were. Just because their aren't many powerhouses doesn't mean automatic wins. ND isn't a powerhouse anymore, but they will need a powerhouse of an offense to keep up with most of those teams.
1. The problem is you have no doubt Georgia will win the NC. You can't even admit, with the toughest schedule in the nation UGA will probably have two losses and have to hope for others to lose as well.
I disagree. I think they'll be the best team in the country, and that will show in every game they play.
2. Well that's a horrible prediction. You have a two horse race and Alabama isn't in it. @ Georgia, @ Arkansas, @ LSU, @ Tennessee (You Bulldogs should know the effect of playing there), not to mention a game against Auburn, which even Helen Keller knows Auburn is on a bit of a streak in the series.
Your an idiot if you think Bama isn't in it. Thats all I have to say. Well, that and you're stupid if you think Auburn is going to win this year just because they did the last 6. Don't let your homerism blind you to the fact that you actually might have more than one team to compete with this year.
Oh, and I didn't bother replying to point 5, because there's not point in trying to change your mind... you'll see I'm right at seasons end.
6. Just because the media gives Notre Dame too much credit doesn't mean you have to. Probable losses against: Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, North Carolina, Washington, Pittsburgh, Boston College, and USC. Every single one of those teams is better than ND and they showed no one last year that they could play better than they really were. Just because their aren't many powerhouses doesn't mean automatic wins. ND isn't a powerhouse anymore, but they will need a powerhouse of an offense to keep up with most of those teams.
I see them losing to at least Michigan, Washington, and USC. I call those definite losses. MSU is one of those programs you can never count on to be as good as they should be. Boston College won't be any good, I'm not buying the Pitt hype, and haven't seen anything out of UNC yet. Purdue... *yawn*. I think 9-3 is their best possible scenario, and they'll likely go 8-4 (though 6-6 or 7-5 is a real possibility).
TiGeRTeRRoR
07-11-2008, 12:55 AM
Oh, I didn't bother replying to the other points, because well, you made no points. You stated: I'm a huge homer with no reason to believe anyone will be within 21 points of UGA this year. You're stupid. You're stupid. I'm right, you're wrong.
I see them losing to at least Michigan, Washington, and USC. I call those definite losses. MSU is one of those programs you can never count on to be as good as they should be. Boston College won't be any good, I'm not buying the Pitt hype, and haven't seen anything out of UNC yet. Purdue... *yawn*. I think 9-3 is their best possible scenario, and they'll likely go 8-4 (though 6-6 or 7-5 is a real possibility). Then you try pretending you know anything about college football outside of Athens, Georgia here.
Michigan State is one of those programs you can't count on to be as good as they should at the end of the season. Just about every season they do very well for the first half of the season. They always play excited for Notre Dame, which Notre Dame can rarely match. Even with Golden Boy Quinn Notre Dame barely squeaked by the mighty Spartans.
"BC won't be good." Amazing arguments you make here. The past six years, BC has finished with worse than nine wins one time. They're not top recruiters every year but they find a way to keep the cupboard full and they always have a solid defense. Unfortunately for ND, just a solid defense probably keeps them from winning a game.
Not buying the Pitt hype. Good thing hype isn't what wins football games. Fortunately experience is. Pitt had 3 tough games to end the season last year and won or almost won all three. They upset #2 West Virginia, played Rutgers, and South Florida very close. These three games will have toughened Pitt up and them beating Notre Dame would only be a mild upset.
Purdue? Yawn? Again, brilliant commentary. Someone didn't watch a Purdue game last year. The only two teams they scored less that 20 points against were Ohio State and Penn St. They scored over 30 nine times. It took Notre Dame 8 games to score over 20 once. Then they did it four times in a row...against Air Force (OK), Navy (no defense), Stanford (pffft!), and Duke (shouldn't even count as a win). Purdue is no Duke and as we saw last year Mr. Weiss may not be the offensive genius everyone thought he was.
UNC is the worst team of this bunch. Though with Butch Davis, a proven college coach, against Charlie Weiss, a...well we saw what kind of coach he was when he lost Quinn, Butch can definitely outcoach him and it could be enough to win the game, considering none of Notre Dame's players have played up to their potential thus far.
Let me guess your next rebuttals: That's doesn't matter. You're stupid. Irrelevant. Touchdown Jesus. Stupid. Stupid. Dumb.
Oh, I didn't bother replying to the other points, because well, you made no points. You stated: I'm a huge homer with no reason to believe anyone will be within 21 points of UGA this year. You're stupid. You're stupid. I'm right, you're wrong.
Then you try pretending you know anything about college football outside of Athens, Georgia here.
Michigan State is one of those programs you can't count on to be as good as they should at the end of the season. Just about every season they do very well for the first half of the season. They always play excited for Notre Dame, which Notre Dame can rarely match. Even with Golden Boy Quinn Notre Dame barely squeaked by the mighty Spartans.
OHHH yes, those MIGHTY MSU Spartans, who have gone 5-7, 5-6, 4-8, and 7-6 over the past 4 seasons. Man, what juggernauts. They have been so dominant that the only reason their coach still has a job is because he managed to scrap out a season barely over .500 (and he can thank Notre Dame's bad year for that). And since they did get the win last year, you can go ahead and forget about them posting a second straight. They are the biggest underachievers of that weak-ass conference, and nothing is going to change with Dantonio there.
"BC won't be good." Amazing arguments you make here. The past six years, BC has finished with worse than nine wins one time. They're not top recruiters every year but they find a way to keep the cupboard full and they always have a solid defense. Unfortunately for ND, just a solid defense probably keeps them from winning a game.
I'm sure BC will do just fine in its own conference, but when they'll lose every game they play against a tough opponent, and that might or might not include Notre Dame as well. My god... look at their schedule and see how many cupcakes they always play, and you can see why they always post a decent record.
Not buying the Pitt hype. Good thing hype isn't what wins football games. Fortunately experience is. Pitt had 3 tough games to end the season last year and won or almost won all three. They upset #2 West Virginia, played Rutgers, and South Florida very close. These three games will have toughened Pitt up and them beating Notre Dame would only be a mild upset.
Close only counts in horshoes and hand grenades, goober. Pitt played one great game against WVU (who played like garbage) and pulled off the upset. Everyone gave them respect for that, but didn't forget that they sucked the rest of the year. Except you. Before the WVU game, the only 4 teams Pitt beat were Eastern Michigan, Grambling State, Cincy and Syracuse. Well hot damn. They're lookin to crash the BCS this year, huh?
Purdue? Yawn? Again, brilliant commentary. Someone didn't watch a Purdue game last year. The only two teams they scored less that 20 points against were Ohio State and Penn St. They scored over 30 nine times. It took Notre Dame 8 games to score over 20 once. Then they did it four times in a row...against Air Force (OK), Navy (no defense), Stanford (pffft!), and Duke (shouldn't even count as a win). Purdue is no Duke and as we saw last year Mr. Weiss may not be the offensive genius everyone thought he was.
We can play this game both ways, scooter. Purdue scored upwards of 20 points against TOLEDO, EASTERN ILLINOIS, CENTRAL MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, IOWA, NORTHWESTERN, and, just because they couldn't get a better bowl opponent, CENTRAL MICHIGAN.... AGAIN. I didn't include their losses. They didn't beat a single opponent that was worth a DAMN. Notre Dame was the only one of note... and hell, everybody beat ND last year, so who cares? So are you going to sit there and try to tell me that Purdue is a good team? Because they aren't.
UNC is the worst team of this bunch. Though with Butch Davis, a proven college coach, against Charlie Weiss, a...well we saw what kind of coach he was when he lost Quinn, Butch can definitely outcoach him and it could be enough to win the game, considering none of Notre Dame's players have played up to their potential thus far.
So you've got absolutely no reason to predict a UNC win over ND, got it.
Let me guess your next rebuttals: That's doesn't matter. You're stupid. Irrelevant. Touchdown Jesus. Stupid. Stupid. Dumb.
I'm still trying to figure out whats got you so hot and bothered.... oh thats right, your panties are in a wad over where I put LSU. Well, back to Notre Dame. They have a soft schedule (always do) and they are loaded with talent (this is undeniable). So for you to think that they can continue to post horrible records is just stupid. Which leaves us right where we started. Do I like Notre Dame? Hell no. F___ em. But I've seen enough football to know they're going to go back to doing what they always do; beating cupcakes and getting overrated. And they'll probably win 7 or 8 games this year.
TiGeRTeRRoR
07-11-2008, 10:59 AM
TOLEDO, EASTERN ILLINOIS, CENTRAL MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, IOWA, NORTHWESTERN, Notre Dame would lose to most of these teams.
But I've seen enough football to know they're going to go back to doing what they always do; beating cupcakes and getting overrated. Here's your mistake, you assume that if a team isn't at the top of their conference, they're a cupcake.
I'm still trying to figure out whats got you so hot and bothered.... oh thats right, your panties are in a wad over where I put LSU. :laugh: Yeah I'm really distraught. You make it sound like it was hard work making your poll look bad. Oh and by the way, kiss the ring, b***h:
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Gator2753
07-11-2008, 11:03 AM
Notre Dame would lose to most of these teams.
Here's your mistake, you assume that if a team isn't at the top of their conference, they're a cupcake.
:laugh: Yeah I'm really distraught. You make it sound like it was hard work making your poll look bad. Oh and by the way, kiss the ring, b***h:
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3766/ringuq4.jpg
Careful now. UGA fans might blow the dust off their last national title ring and whip it out for you. 28 years isnt so long...:glare:
Notre Dame would lose to most of these teams.
Don't be such a hater that you make statements that make you sound like a moron.
Here's your mistake, you assume that if a team isn't at the top of their conference, they're a cupcake.
So Army, UMass, Bowling Green, Rhode Island, Kent State, Maine, Buffalo and Duke AREN'T cupcakes? Interesting.
:laugh: Yeah I'm really distraught. You make it sound like it was hard work making your poll look bad. Oh and by the way, kiss the ring, b***h:
Clearly your title hasn't done anything to solve your inferiority complex. LSU benefited from the fact that the West has been weak. BTW, LSU never would have gotten past Georgia last year, so thank your lucky stars you didn't have to play them.
And since you HAVE run out of debatable issues and have now resorted to bringing up your hardware (which is irrelevant in this argument) I'll consider this the end of the argument.
thunderbird1100
07-11-2008, 01:16 PM
BTW, LSU never would have gotten past Georgia last year, so thank your lucky stars you didn't have to play them.
I love this stupid talk. UGA fans, so damn delusional (or least this dummy).
Bulldog Bry
07-11-2008, 08:08 PM
Living up here in SW Virginia, I have learned NOT to doubt Virginia Tech. I have no idea where they will end up, but I can see them benefiting from a crappy ACC this year. I WANT them to suck out loud, but they never do. Except the 2nd half of the 2006 Peach bowl. Life sure was sweet around here then.
ColonelKurtz
07-11-2008, 10:30 PM
Living up here in SW Virginia, I have learned NOT to doubt Virginia Tech. I have no idea where they will end up, but I can see them benefiting from a crappy ACC this year. I WANT them to suck out loud, but they never do. Except the 2nd half of the 2006 Peach bowl. Life sure was sweet around here then.
Pretty country you're in Bry and Hokie country for sure. But take heart in the knowledge that the locals will be more humble this Fall. Ten starters (6 Offense, 4 D) are all VT has back as 25 very experienced guys left. Great Coaching is what keeps Virginia Tech in the National discussion and the list of talented players is long as well but this will be a true rebuilding from the ground up deal for Beamer & Staff.
This year's Hokies do benefit from the weakness of the ACC but two OOC landmines come early: 8/30 East Carolina in Charlotte and 9/27 @ Nebraska. I think the visit to Chapel Hill on 9/20 is a trap and @ Miami on 11/13 will be difficult coming right after a fight with the Turtles.
Bulldog Bry
07-12-2008, 08:20 AM
Pretty country you're in Bry and Hokie country for sure. But take heart in the knowledge that the locals will be more humble this Fall. Ten starters (6 Offense, 4 D) are all VT has back as 25 very experienced guys left. Great Coaching is what keeps Virginia Tech in the National discussion and the list of talented players is long as well but this will be a true rebuilding from the ground up deal for Beamer & Staff.
This year's Hokies do benefit from the weakness of the ACC but two OOC landmines come early: 8/30 East Carolina in Charlotte and 9/27 @ Nebraska. I think the visit to Chapel Hill on 9/20 is a trap and @ Miami on 11/13 will be difficult coming right after a fight with the Turtles.
Colonel, PLEASE don't get my hopes up. Every year I pray that this johnny-come-lately football program will go back to the days of .500 ball. I just think Beamer and company can recruit AND coach simultaneously. He waltzes into Hampton Roads every January and snaps his fingers - BAM! More All Americans.
Most people up here think that his undoing will be his loyalty to OC Brian Stinespring. Carrot Top could call a better game than Stiney. I could see a loss to Nebraska now b/c of Pelini, but I don't think East Carolina is quite ready to knock them off. Boy, I'd love to be wrong.
ColonelKurtz
07-12-2008, 10:29 AM
Colonel, PLEASE don't get my hopes up. Every year I pray that this johnny-come-lately football program will go back to the days of .500 ball. I just think Beamer and company can recruit AND coach simultaneously. He waltzes into Hampton Roads every January and snaps his fingers - BAM! More All Americans.
Most people up here think that his undoing will be his loyalty to OC Brian Stinespring. Carrot Top could call a better game than Stiney. I could see a loss to Nebraska now b/c of Pelini, but I don't think East Carolina is quite ready to knock them off. Boy, I'd love to be wrong.
ECU gave the Chokies all they wanted LAST season in the opener and returns 16 starters. This is one of my opening week UPSET SPECIALS!
Much like the LSU & Bama fans here, the Chokie fans are detached from the reality that there is no magic wand in their respective HC's hand. If VT played in the SEC, they would not win enough games to bowl.
Bulldog Bry
07-12-2008, 12:53 PM
ECU gave the Chokies all they wanted LAST season in the opener and returns 16 starters. This is one of my opening week UPSET SPECIALS!
Much like the LSU & Bama fans here, the Chokie fans are detached from the reality that there is no magic wand in their respective HC's hand. If VT played in the SEC, they would not win enough games to bowl.
Alright then. I'm pulling out all my 401K to bet on that game. If I lose, I'm takin it out of Junior Holtz' arse.
Back on topic, I noticed Notre Dame at #20. You guys know that the Bible forbids the Golden Domers to be out of the Top 15 two years in a row, right? I think it's in Leviticus.
KHVols1387
07-12-2008, 01:38 PM
1. Georgia WILL win it all. I'm not the only person who is putting them #1, so you can take your homer arguments elsewhere. Everyone bitching about that can blow me... take up your argument with nearly every other pollster in the f___ing country.
2. Alabama is my pick to win the SEC West. Again, you have a 3 horse race for the West between LSU, Auburn and ALabama, and I think both LSU and Auburn are too young at key positions to win it. I do NOT think it is unreasonable to predict Bama to go 9-3... they lost all their games last year by a TD or less. Thus I have Bama at 12. You are the moron here if you think they WON'T finish in the top 25. STFU and take your hillbilly hate elsewhere.
3. Where was South Carolina in the polls last year before injuries dragged them down? You telling me they CAN'T do it again? I have South Carolina beating LSU at home, and finishing 3rd in the East, AHEAD of UT.
4. Tennessee I have finishing 4th in the East. Thus, the low ranking.
5. LSU will finish 3rd in the West, with losses to Alabama, Auburn, Georgia and South Carolina.
6. Every football fan in the country knows Notre Dame gets too much love in the polls. Look at their schedule. Not many powerhouses in that lineup. It wouldn't be hard for them to go 8-4.
7. I'm glad you agree with me on MSU. Now piss off.
1. I guess I am a homer because I think my team will finish 3rd in the East ahead of South Carolina. I guess you are not a homer because you think your team is going to win the NC when you won't even win the East because of your schedule. Georgia has the best team along with the best coach in the SEC IMO but no team is going to get through that schedule without losing at least two games.
You are on your high horse because you guys went on an 8 game tear at the end of the season that started with a 3 point win over Vanderbilt. Your toughest stretch after that was Auburn and Kentucky and both of those games were at home. The other tough game was Florida and then you had to play powerhouses such as Troy, Hawaii, and Georgia Tech. You guys haven't seen a stretch such as @USC, @Arizona State, Alabama, and Tennessee(I know there is week between Alabama and Tennessee but I still consider it a tough stretch of games) or @LSU, Florida, @Kentucky, and @Auburn. You will not get out of those 8 games with only 1 loss. I can't wait until football season when your dreaming season ends and reality begins. Until then, keep dreaming.
2. I don't think it is unreasonable to think that Alabama can go 9-3 I just think they are a couple of years away. Their great recruiting class is not going to produce right away. LSU has the best offensive and defensive lines in the SEC. Games are won in the trenches and that is why LSU will win the West. As for you calling me a hillbilly - you don't even know me so why don't you STFU. I'm glad that you have to make fun of other people to make yourself feel better.
3, 4 and 5. Who did Tennessee lose to make them drop from 1st to 4th in the East? It looks to me like you are holding a grudge against both Tennessee and LSU for some reason. I guess we will just have to wait and see when the season starts.
6. Notre Dame is going to go from 3 wins to 8 wins? I'm thinking 6-6 but that's your ridiculous opinion. I understand that the media loves them I just don't see them improving that much by getting 5 more wins next season when they looked absolutely atrocious last season. They will lose to Michigan, Michigan State, Boston College, USC, Pitt, and Purdue. North Carolina and Washington won't be pushovers for them either.
7. Have a great day.
KHVols1387
07-12-2008, 01:48 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but we did beat the hell out of you last year. I think 12 is high for us this year, but you're kidding yourself if you think UT will finish much higher than us, if at all.
Correct me if I am wrong, but did you guys finish in the top 25 last year? That should prove that you have no intelligence at all to think that just because you guys beat us should put you guys in front of us in the polls. You did beat the hell out of us but I think I would rather finish 10-4 at #12 than 7-6 with a highlight loss to UL Monroe and finish out of the top 25.
1. I guess I am a homer because I think my team will finish 3rd in the East ahead of South Carolina. I guess you are not a homer because you think your team is going to win the NC when you won't even win the East because of your schedule. Georgia has the best team along with the best coach in the SEC IMO but no team is going to get through that schedule without losing at least two games.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. Just think about what you just said and how stupid it was for awhile.
You are on your high horse because you guys went on an 8 game tear at the end of the season that started with a 3 point win over Vanderbilt. Your toughest stretch after that was Auburn and Kentucky and both of those games were at home. The other tough game was Florida and then you had to play powerhouses such as Troy, Hawaii, and Georgia Tech. You guys haven't seen a stretch such as @USC, @Arizona State, Alabama, and Tennessee(I know there is week between Alabama and Tennessee but I still consider it a tough stretch of games) or @LSU, Florida, @Kentucky, and @Auburn. You will not get out of those 8 games with only 1 loss. I can't wait until football season when your dreaming season ends and reality begins. Until then, keep dreaming.
I'm not sure that there's anything to reply to here. I think you're trying to downplay how good UGA was, which is retarded, because you just said they will be the best team with the best coach. I win. And so will the Dawgs.
2. I don't think it is unreasonable to think that Alabama can go 9-3 I just think they are a couple of years away. Their great recruiting class is not going to produce right away. LSU has the best offensive and defensive lines in the SEC. Games are won in the trenches and that is why LSU will win the West. As for you calling me a hillbilly - you don't even know me so why don't you STFU. I'm glad that you have to make fun of other people to make yourself feel better.
Games may be won in the trenches, but nobody wins titles without a balanced offense, and that my little bumpkin friend, is a fact. LSU will not have a balanced offense. As far as making fun of you, I don't do it to make myself feel better... I do it because you're an idiot, and you should be told as such. You don't see me attacking other Tennessee fans here who are logical thinking valuable members of the forum... no.... just you, and your idiotic reasoning and uber-homerism. You offer no legitimate basis for any of your predictions. None. The only reason you say Georgia won't win the East is because you hate Georgia.
3, 4 and 5. Who did Tennessee lose to make them drop from 1st to 4th in the East? It looks to me like you are holding a grudge against both Tennessee and LSU for some reason. I guess we will just have to wait and see when the season starts.
Is that such a stretch? Tennessee was 1 loss away from being THIRD in the East last year, and only escaped that because not one, but TWO teams missed their opportunity for a winning FG against UT by a mere 2 inches or less. If either one of those had gone through, you're looking at Georgia in the MNC last year, Florida 2nd in the East, and UT 3rd... and suddenly my prediction isn't so bold, is it? Hmmmm.
6. Notre Dame is going to go from 3 wins to 8 wins? I'm thinking 6-6 but that's your ridiculous opinion. I understand that the media loves them I just don't see them improving that much by getting 5 more wins next season when they looked absolutely atrocious last season. They will lose to Michigan, Michigan State, Boston College, USC, Pitt, and Purdue. North Carolina and Washington won't be pushovers for them either.
Yeah you're right, thats absurd to say Notre Dame can go from a 3 win season to an 8 win season. Or is it? Need I remind you what the Irish finished at in 2006? I'll save you the trouble of looking it up. 10-3. How about 2005? 9-3. So if they can go from 10 wins to 3 wins, how RIDICULOUS is it that they can go from 3 wins to 8 wins? That team is absolutely loaded with some of the best talent in the country... I think its much more stupid of you to say they CAN'T win 8 games than it is for me to predict that.
7. Have a great day.
You as well... I hope somebody shits in your cornflakes.
DAWGS1
07-13-2008, 10:42 AM
what can you expect from a knoxville education?:D LSU fans love runnin their mouth especially when Lesticles was humbled by an inferior ole UGA squad in the 2005 sec championship. :eek:
KHVols1387
07-13-2008, 11:16 AM
This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. Just think about what you just said and how stupid it was for awhile.
If you had an education and you could read then maybe you would have continued reading to the part where I said no team can get through that schedule without a couple of losses. I will be the first one to congratulate Georgia for getting through that schedule with 1 or no losses. If they do that then they will be in the NC game and they deserve it. I do think they are the best team with the best coach in the SEC right now. Maybe if you used your intelligence you might be able to realize that the best team doesn't always win. Obviously you and your homerism doesn't think Tennessee was the best team in the East last year but look who won it dumbass. Here let me repeat it one more time so you can understand it: THE BEST TEAM DOESN'T ALWAYS WIN.
I'm not sure that there's anything to reply to here. I think you're trying to downplay how good UGA was, which is retarded, because you just said they will be the best team with the best coach. I win. And so will the Dawgs.
I'm sorry that I think Georgia fans over hype their 8 game stretch last year. I was trying to compare last years schedule to this year but once again your lack of education didn't allow you to read and understand that. Don't call me a homer win you say things like I win and so will the Dawgs. That is as homer as it gets my friend.
Games may be won in the trenches, but nobody wins titles without a balanced offense, and that my little bumpkin friend, is a fact. LSU will not have a balanced offense. As far as making fun of you, I don't do it to make myself feel better... I do it because you're an idiot, and you should be told as such. You don't see me attacking other Tennessee fans here who are logical thinking valuable members of the forum... no.... just you, and your idiotic reasoning and uber-homerism. You offer no legitimate basis for any of your predictions. None. The only reason you say Georgia won't win the East is because you hate Georgia.
First of all I like Georgia. I have many friends who go there and I support them unless it effects Tennessee in some way. I said they won't win the East because once again the schedule(Ok, you obviously can't read). Do I need to say anything more to be legit? I mean I could point out the tough stretches again but I am assuming you read that part.
Is that such a stretch? Tennessee was 1 loss away from being THIRD in the East last year, and only escaped that because not one, but TWO teams missed their opportunity for a winning FG against UT by a mere 2 inches or less. If either one of those had gone through, you're looking at Georgia in the MNC last year, Florida 2nd in the East, and UT 3rd... and suddenly my prediction isn't so bold, is it? Hmmmm.
Who cares, a win is a win. EVERY team gets lucky and gets out of games with a win. It doesn't matter if you win by 1 or 20. I'm glad that you are so sure that if Tennessee would have lost then you guys would have been in the NC. I'm sure you guys would have convincingly beat LSU. You are such a homer its not even funny. I am starting to get the big picture now... you hate Tennessee because one we have beat the hell out of you guys for the last two years and by your standards "ruined your MNC hopes". Quit being a sore loser.
Yeah you're right, thats absurd to say Notre Dame can go from a 3 win season to an 8 win season. Or is it? Need I remind you what the Irish finished at in 2006? I'll save you the trouble of looking it up. 10-3. How about 2005? 9-3. So if they can go from 10 wins to 3 wins, how RIDICULOUS is it that they can go from 3 wins to 8 wins? That team is absolutely loaded with some of the best talent in the country... I think its much more stupid of you to say they CAN'T win 8 games than it is for me to predict that.
Good logic. Go Irish.
You as well... I hope somebody shits in your cornflakes.
Grow up.
If you had an education and you could read then maybe you would have continued reading to the part where I said no team can get through that schedule without a couple of losses. I will be the first one to congratulate Georgia for getting through that schedule with 1 or no losses. If they do that then they will be in the NC game and they deserve it. I do think they are the best team with the best coach in the SEC right now. Maybe if you used your intelligence you might be able to realize that the best team doesn't always win. Obviously you and your homerism doesn't think Tennessee was the best team in the East last year but look who won it dumbass. Here let me repeat it one more time so you can understand it: THE BEST TEAM DOESN'T ALWAYS WIN.
So your logic is that the best team doesn't always win, and thus Georgia will not, because there is NO WAY they can make it through their schedule. Again, you and everyone else that subscribes to that logic... is retarded. If they are indeed the best team, then they will win. Thats all there is to it.
I'm sorry that I think Georgia fans over hype their 8 game stretch last year. I was trying to compare last years schedule to this year but once again your lack of education didn't allow you to read and understand that. Don't call me a homer win you say things like I win and so will the Dawgs. That is as homer as it gets my friend.
No, homer as it gets is predicting a team to finish 3rd in the East based on NO facts other than that "they can't make it through their schedule." You should stick to something within your intellectual realm, like coloring. If you have nothing substantial to use as basis for predicting such a season for the Dogs, then just don't post. Because there's enough asshats with their own uninformed opinion around without you adding your two cents worth.
First of all I like Georgia. I have many friends who go there and I support them unless it effects Tennessee in some way. I said they won't win the East because once again the schedule(Ok, you obviously can't read). Do I need to say anything more to be legit? I mean I could point out the tough stretches again but I am assuming you read that part.
Again, more distractions on your part from the fact that you don't know a damn thing about what you are talking about. Same stupid reasoning... tough schedule, blah blah blah. You must have no knowledge aside from what you regurgitate from what you see on ESPN or hear other people say.
Who cares, a win is a win. EVERY team gets lucky and gets out of games with a win. It doesn't matter if you win by 1 or 20. I'm glad that you are so sure that if Tennessee would have lost then you guys would have been in the NC. I'm sure you guys would have convincingly beat LSU. You are such a homer its not even funny. I am starting to get the big picture now... you hate Tennessee because one we have beat the hell out of you guys for the last two years and by your standards "ruined your MNC hopes". Quit being a sore loser.
What bitterness? MY team finished #2 in the nation, MY team won the Sugar Bowl, MY team was favored by the majority to start this season #1 in the country. How do you figure I'm sore? Quite the contrary, I'm enjoying this position of superiority right now.
Good logic. Go Irish.
Well at least we finally got you to admit that you were wrong.
Grow up.
Said the infantile bumpkin in orange diapers.
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