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gatoraus
07-06-2008, 05:39 PM
Just curious if any of you guys have seen this movie and what your thoughts are. While some of the ideas/beliefs are kind of outrageous, some intriguing questions are posed. Thoughts?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
JerryBeeds
07-06-2008, 05:56 PM
Complete and total garbage. Do you wear a tinfoil hat?
Sabanocchio
07-06-2008, 06:39 PM
I'm one that enjoys a good conspiracy theory. Unfortunately this isn't one of them. A bunch of pissed off Muslims took down the towers.
Has the government used it to it's advantage? Clearly.
Were there many warnings ahead of time that weren't acted on? Sure.
Is anyone truly at fault for it other than the people that hijacked the planes?
IMO, no.
azamugg
07-06-2008, 07:12 PM
hummm.....a consipiracy to kill thousands.........and that plot of course would have to depend on hundreds and of course their confidentiality..........and the dude that made this vid is still alive
skepticism is healthy but 9/11 conspiracy theorists are barely above retarded...
gatoraus
07-06-2008, 08:01 PM
I'm one that enjoys a good conspiracy theory. Unfortunately this isn't one of them. A bunch of pissed off Muslims took down the towers.
Has the government used it to it's advantage? Clearly.
Were there many warnings ahead of time that weren't acted on? Sure.
Is anyone truly at fault for it other than the people that hijacked the planes?
IMO, no.
I'm one as well. I thought it was a stupid concept at first, but some things are kind of odd. They can find a passport, but not find a black box? No traces of human remains? The pilot that worked with the Pentagon a year earlier to see what would happen if a plane hit there ends up being the pilot of the plane getting hijacked? I'm not saying the Gov't is behind this, but there is some pretty wild shit that occured.
Crimson Kicker8
07-06-2008, 08:53 PM
Yeah, I've seen this video before. The Loose Change kids are nothing more than rank amateurs, blatantly proven by the fact that they can't back up any of their claims. Let me give you two examples:
1. They harp over and over about JP-8 not burning hot enough to melt the steel at the WTC. Unfortuanately for them, they don't take into account the damage sustained from the impact to the inftrastructure. The massive amount of weight above the impact point is more than enough to pheasably cause a collapse. Also, the fire at the impact point isn't exclusively fueled by JP-8, but rather a countless number of other fueling agents that would have been in the towers near the explosion (notably cleaning agents and other chemicals). These are important elements they leave out.
2. No missle hit the Pentagon, I don't care how nice and neat the hole looks. Hundreds of people saw a plane hit the Pentagon that morning, no one saw a missle hit the Pentagon, case closed.
If you want to see some great videos check out these clips where Popular Mechanics really reduce the Loose Change kids to childish name calling. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVmEmJ666M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d0XEHahJ2Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Fm3Zc7D8I&feature=related
timNem
07-07-2008, 12:43 AM
Yeah, I've seen this video before. The Loose Change kids are nothing more than rank amateurs, blatantly proven by the fact that they can't back up any of their claims. Let me give you two examples:
1. They harp over and over about JP-8 not burning hot enough to melt the steel at the WTC. Unfortuanately for them, they don't take into account the damage sustained from the impact to the inftrastructure. The massive amount of weight above the impact point is more than enough to pheasably cause a collapse. Also, the fire at the impact point isn't exclusively fueled by JP-8, but rather a countless number of other fueling agents that would have been in the towers near the explosion (notably cleaning agents and other chemicals). These are important elements they leave out.
2. No missle hit the Pentagon, I don't care how nice and neat the hole looks. Hundreds of people saw a plane hit the Pentagon that morning, no one saw a missle hit the Pentagon, case closed.
If you want to see some great videos check out these clips where Popular Mechanics really reduce the Loose Change kids to childish name calling. It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVmEmJ666M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d0XEHahJ2Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Fm3Zc7D8I&feature=related
no doubt, anybody who has ever witnessed steel melt will know that it will bend, warp, shrink, and lose its strength way before it begins to melt.
The guys that did "loose change" are a couple of amateur hacks, and were exposed as such. There isn't any need to discuss the piece, because its garbage... and the editor who let it come out, is GARBAGE! [/gundy]
JerryBeeds
07-07-2008, 07:13 AM
I'm one as well. I thought it was a stupid concept at first, but some things are kind of odd. They can find a passport, but not find a black box? No traces of human remains? The pilot that worked with the Pentagon a year earlier to see what would happen if a plane hit there ends up being the pilot of the plane getting hijacked? I'm not saying the Gov't is behind this, but there is some pretty wild shit that occured.
So basically you do believe it then. There is nothing interesting about this. Its typical wack-job liberalism.
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