Will the wheels come off in 2008?

[shk999]

Everybody knows it's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when". 2008? 2009? When does Les ride LSU into the ground? Les Miles fell in to one of the most fortunate situations of any head coach since...well...Larry Coker. Nobody can honestly say they think Les is a great coach, he rode Saban's coat tails just like Terry Bowden rode Pat Dye. The Tigers lost alot of talent to the NFL this year, key players such as Flynn, Hester and Steltz among others, not to mention one of the best defensive weapons in the entire league, Glenn Dorsey. The QB situation is grim down on the bayou, the departure of Ryan Perrilloux complicates things for Les, to say the least. While RP's extra circular activites clearly were causing Miles problems, he is still worth his weight in gold between the sidelines. The good news for Les, he will make enough in the next couple of yrs before he is fired to live pretty well or who knows, maybe Rich Rod will be looking for a good "get back coach" and he can finally return home to Michigan. It will be good for LSU too, they have been living beyond their means for far too long now and returning to the lower middle of the SEC will make the fans feel like they're home again. With Tubby keeping AU strong seemingly every year and the Tide working hard to regain their proper place at the top of the West, LSU's impending decline will return some normalcy to the SEC and all will be right in the world of cfb. Dont blink corndogs, because before you know it that rivalry with Ole Miss will once again be one of the biggest games of your season.
;)

shk

[D^3]

He should have taken the Michigan job.

[crimsonnation713]

its gonna get ugly

[D^3]

Let's take a look at the agenda, shall we??

8/30 Appalachian State 5:00 PM
9/06 Troy 8:00 PM
9/13 North Texas 8:00 PM

There are 2 potential upsets in the first 3 games of the season, of course none of them will be because LSU doesn't have the talent to match up with these teams.. it will be because they get caught sleeping. The other bad part about these first 3 games is that its going to have them softened up for their first REAL game of the season against...

9/20 @ Auburn

I think they lose that game. So they leave the Plains to host their first REAL home game against...

9/27 Mississippi State TBA

...which they'll likely win. It is still MSU... but then they get to go on the road to...
10/11 @ Florida TBA

Sure they get a bye week, but it still doesn't help that Florida is a lot better than they are this year, not the least of which is because UF has a QB. Oh, did I mention its at the Swamp? So after this loss, the Tigers hit the road to..

10/18 @ South Carolina TBA

... and no doubt Spurrier will be looking for payback for the trick plays Miles pulled on him last season. We all know the ol ball coach has tricks up his sleeves, and when you piss him off, he saves something special for you. Then you have another problem, because you've already wasted your bye week, and now you have to go home and host...

10/25 Georgia TBA

... who will probably whip your ass. I know, I know... you've got Running backs. Well, bad news, so does Georgia... and they've got this one guy with a funny name who will probably be in the Heisman race by this time.

11/01 Tulane 8:00 PM

Finally, a win for the Tigahs. Its a good thing they get one here, because next week its..

11/08 Alabama TBA

... and the Tide will have a significantly improved team with a senior QB. Did I mention LSU doesn't have a QB? Add another one to the "L" column. Don't get down on yourselves though, Bengals... next week brings...

11/22 Mississippi TBA

and if you lose to the Rebs, you'll know you've got serious problems.

11/28 @ Arkansas

Hey, look at it this way, at least you know you'll win the LAST game of the season!


I think the Tigahs would do well to win 8 games this season.

[bamagt]

The first corndog will say something to the lines of: "I love it, you guys think he's a horrible coach but all he does is win."

[D^3]

The first corndog will say something to the lines of: "I love it, you guys think he's a horrible coach but all he does is win."

Then they'll say something about how they're so good they don't NEED a QB to win... they have all these running backs....

[shk999]

Then they'll say something about how they're so good they don't NEED a QB to win... they have all these running backs....

Simple math. 5 RB's + Harvard transfer QB / 8 men in the box - Les' IQ (88)= 7 (wins)

:laugh:

[M2J]

He's gotten extremely lucky. You couldn't have asked for a better situation to coach in with the SEC. He was handed a stacked team (that's an understatement, he was handed maybe the most talented team in the nation) that already knew how to win, the west division was down with only Auburn to really contend with for the most part. The free ride is pretty much over, he can't just rely on the talent right now, he's got to overcome a bit of adversity in the talent department in some areas. And over the next couple of years he'll have to actually out coach at least 3 coaches that are better than he is and that's just inside his own division.

But, I still give them a decent shot to stay pretty good the next couple of years and maybe be favored in the West by some as they do have some big time talent coming out of some previous classes by Les. But Lester just doesn't strike me as the type of coach that can sustain a program too long and be a cornerstone type coach, at least not for a consistent elite program. I don't think he's going anywhere, and probably shouldn't, but LSU's probably seen their last crystal football for a while. If Les has another 11 win season and/or another SEC title in the next 2 years I'll become a believer

[crawfish]

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

You guys are still dreaming and wishing! I think I'll call you guys "Dream Weavers!" I love it! I really hate using the "j" word here about you guys, but it sure fits ..... again! Ha! Ha! Heck, I might as well throw in the "o" word at you too, cause it's definitely where you guys are living! But please don't get me wrong; trust me, I big time love these threads! LSU....what a football program! (Cue for all the above post to repeat itself...lol)

[GatorHunter]

From watching Miles' sideline antics...it's hard for me to believe he really plays an "integral" part of actually gameday coaching...I remember the entire sideline trying to signal for a time-out...Les is just standing there, with a look on his face like he's trying to divide 13 into 100...then, he sees everyone signaling for a TO and starts "emulating" them.

However, as Bobby Bowden has shown...in most cases a coach is only as good as his assistants...up until now, Les has had all the talent and some very good assistant coaching. Now...he's still got some good coaching...but the talent levels have dropped. I think this season will "tell the tale" so to speak about Miles. Not passing judgment yet.

[M2J]

From watching Miles' sideline antics...it's hard for me to believe he really plays an "integral" part of actually gameday coaching...I remember the entire sideline trying to signal for a time-out...Les is just standing there, with a look on his face like he's trying to divide 13 into 100...then, he sees everyone signaling for a TO and starts "emulating" them.

However, as Bobby Bowden has shown...in most cases a coach is only as good as his assistants...up until now, Les has had all the talent and some very good assistant coaching. Now...he's still got some good coaching...but the talent levels have dropped. I think this season will "tell the tale" so to speak about Miles. Not passing judgment yet.


Exactly. This season, and I'll even give him the next year as well, is very important to the direction of the LSU program and at least my personal perception on Les. I have no reason to hate the guy and I don't, I do think he's a good coach as not every coach can sustain the success another built, but certainly not an elite coach and he's maybe something like a moron :laugh:. He's gonna show his worth as a coach, and if it is a lot... I'll be the first to admit it, no reason not to... it would be a surprise is all.

[sheluvsbama]

I think it's going to be a difficult season for the Tigahs, but they will be ferocious all the same. :laugh:

[zartan]

everybody piling on Les Miles is getting old, especially when people suggest that he's stupid. Charlie Weis is supposed to be a super-genius, and how many wins has that gotten ND?...

[gatorunvrsty]

From watching Miles' sideline antics...it's hard for me to believe he really plays an "integral" part of actually gameday coaching...I remember the entire sideline trying to signal for a time-out...Les is just standing there, with a look on his face like he's trying to divide 13 into 100...then, he sees everyone signaling for a TO and starts "emulating" them.

However, as Bobby Bowden has shown...in most cases a coach is only as good as his assistants...up until now, Les has had all the talent and some very good assistant coaching. Now...he's still got some good coaching...but the talent levels have dropped. I think this season will "tell the tale" so to speak about Miles. Not passing judgment yet.

Watching Miles on the sidelines, and then coming in here to discuss it later, this :blink: became the most appropriate description I could think of... and my vocabulary isn't nearly as limited as his. I can only guess at this point, too; but it will be one of the more interesting topics as the year progresses. LSU is still extremely talented, but I think the hosses that could readily make up for mistakes are now in the NFL... listening to head coaches who never look like this :blink:.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc12/g8r8u2/MILES100.jpg?t=1213531415
"How dare you say that I say you think that I won't say that I don't really know what you're thinking that really says I don't know what I'm doing... that's one of the most defensive things someone has said to me."

http://images.dawgsports.com/images/admin/Les_Miles_looking_like_a_dufus.jpg

[gatorunvrsty]

everybody piling on Les Miles is getting old, especially when people suggest that he's stupid. Charlie Weis is supposed to be a super-genius, and how many wins has that gotten ND?...

The difference is that Weis tried to institute a pro offense that was too complicated for kids coming straight out of high school... I don't think the boys at LSU have to worry about that.:happy:

[JerryBeeds]

I hope so. (They are on our schedule this year).

[BAMAPERRY]

From watching Miles' sideline antics...it's hard for me to believe he really plays an "integral" part of actually gameday coaching...I remember the entire sideline trying to signal for a time-out...Les is just standing there, with a look on his face like he's trying to divide 13 into 100...then, he sees everyone signaling for a TO and starts "emulating" them.

However, as Bobby Bowden has shown...in most cases a coach is only as good as his assistants...up until now, Les has had all the talent and some very good assistant coaching. Now...he's still got some good coaching...but the talent levels have dropped. I think this season will "tell the tale" so to speak about Miles. Not passing judgment yet.

I remember that. All I could do was laugh. It was if the assistants KNEW he was a dolt.

[JerryBeeds]

From watching Miles' sideline antics...it's hard for me to believe he really plays an "integral" part of actually gameday coaching


Spurrier took a shot at him about that last season.

[GatorHunter]

everybody piling on Les Miles is getting old, especially when people suggest that he's stupid. Charlie Weis is supposed to be a super-genius, and how many wins has that gotten ND?...

I'm not piling on Les...I just think he "won the lottery" so to speak when he took the LSU job. It's not like he was a proven commodity prior. We'll see what he's made of this season.

[GTTiger]

I'm not piling on Les...I just think he "won the lottery" so to speak when he took the LSU job. It's not like he was a proven commodity prior. We'll see what he's made of this season.

I think we can all agree that USC has had much more talent than LSU.

Just a couple notes:

1) Miles has continued to stock the team with some of the top talent in the nation.
2) Saban lost more games than Miles did per sesason, while still having some of the most talented players in the nation.
3) Miles managed to go 11-2 the season following Hurricane Katrina, which is impressive on it's own.
4) Miles is 3-0 in bowl games and all 3 were against top 10 teams I believe.

Miles might not be the greatest coach, but it's pretty hard to say he isn't just yet. He has done well and is probably one of the top 3 or 4 coaches in the SEC. Meyer, Spurrier, and Richt are all brilliant to though.

I know that many fans want to believe Miles is a horrible coach(mostly alabama fans, because they want to believe Saban is the greatest), but he has done a much better job than any LSU fan could have hoped for.

[D^3]

3) Miles managed to go 11-2 the season following Hurricane Katrina, which is impressive on it's own.


This is the most disgusting lame-ass excuse in the history of sports. I'm so sick of hearing about Katrina in regards to LSU. Remind me again, where did Katrina hit? New Orleans? Where is LSU located? Baton Rouge? Oh yeah, Katrina didn't affect LSU football AT ALL. The fact that you guys tout it as some obstacle that Miles overcame is despicable. It started out as ESPN doing the usual dramatizing of a situation to make it bigger than it is, and now some of you Tiger faithful have actually started using it as some sort of accolade, like it was Tiger Stadium that was destroyed, or as if it was your players and coaching staff that had their homes destroyed, and were displaced. I'm not alone in this, I know LSU fans who have said the same thing... Katrina didn't have anything to do with the 07' Tigers.

[sheluvsbama]

I think we can all agree that USC has had much more talent than LSU.

Just a couple notes:

1) Miles has continued to stock the team with some of the top talent in the nation.
2) Saban lost more games than Miles did per sesason, while still having some of the most talented players in the nation.
3) Miles managed to go 11-2 the season following Hurricane Katrina, which is impressive on it's own.
4) Miles is 3-0 in bowl games and all 3 were against top 10 teams I believe.

Miles might not be the greatest coach, but it's pretty hard to say he isn't just yet. He has done well and is probably one of the top 3 or 4 coaches in the SEC. Meyer, Spurrier, and Richt are all brilliant to though.

I know that many fans want to believe Miles is a horrible coach(mostly alabama fans, because they want to believe Saban is the greatest), but he has done a much better job than any LSU fan could have hoped for.


I don't think there is any feeling of competitiveness with Alabama fans considering the traits of Saban or Miles. This is not in anyone's mind. You have your coach and we have ours. I feel no need to compare the two of them. In fact, I feel no need to compare Saban to any other coach at all. They all have their ways of doing things and their histories with other teams. I don't think ANY coach is "the greatest". None are infallible. :laugh:

[Petrino Wins]

This is the most disgusting lame-ass excuse in the history of sports. I'm so sick of hearing about Katrina in regards to LSU. Remind me again, where did Katrina hit? New Orleans? Where is LSU located? Baton Rouge? Oh yeah, Katrina didn't affect LSU football AT ALL. The fact that you guys tout it as some obstacle that Miles overcame is despicable. It started out as ESPN doing the usual dramatizing of a situation to make it bigger than it is, and now some of you Tiger faithful have actually started using it as some sort of accolade, like it was Tiger Stadium that was destroyed, or as if it was your players and coaching staff that had their homes destroyed, and were displaced. I'm not alone in this, I know LSU fans who have said the same thing... Katrina didn't have anything to do with the 07' Tigers.

1. Are you aware of how a hurricane works? It demolished a good part of Lousiana and southern Mississippi. Baton Rouge got hit hard, and that alone can be huge distraction. Maybe you should put yourself in their shoes.
2. Another big distraction: family and friends. Everyone on that team either had a family member or friend that was severly effected by the hurricane, and that can lead you to put football in perspective and lose your concentration.
3. Remember when it happened. I think August 28th. During that time you are really starting to get ready for the season start going, then something like that happens. It can completely throw off everything else your doing in your life.
4. Are you really that big of an a**hole to call the people of Lousiana out on that?


That being said, Les Miles I hate you. I look forward to you purposely mispronouncing Arkansas for years to come then shutting your mouth after you lose to us.

[batonrougevol]

This is the most disgusting lame-ass excuse in the history of sports. I'm so sick of hearing about Katrina in regards to LSU. Remind me again, where did Katrina hit? New Orleans? Where is LSU located? Baton Rouge? Oh yeah, Katrina didn't affect LSU football AT ALL. The fact that you guys tout it as some obstacle that Miles overcame is despicable. It started out as ESPN doing the usual dramatizing of a situation to make it bigger than it is, and now some of you Tiger faithful have actually started using it as some sort of accolade, like it was Tiger Stadium that was destroyed, or as if it was your players and coaching staff that had their homes destroyed, and were displaced. I'm not alone in this, I know LSU fans who have said the same thing... Katrina didn't have anything to do with the 07' Tigers.


Hey guys, haven't posted much on this site and none since last year, but I have to take issue with this.

First, I'm a UT fan thru and thru, but I do follow the Tigers too as I live in Baton Rouge.

Second, I've lived here for 10 years now and endured Katrina. This poster said that it was "disgusting" to bring up Katrina. OK dude, you obviously have no idea what transpired all over SE Louisiana.

Baton Rouge is only a few miles (less than 100) inland from New Orleans as the crow flies and straight up the Mississippi River. The entire Gulf Coast from Alabama to Louisiana was messed up by Katrina. Then, only a couple of weeks later, Hurricane Rita did the honor of hitting further west and damaging the rest of the Lousiana coast which was already weakened by Katrina. Basically the entire state south of Alexandria was without power and cell phone circuits were jammed. Evacuation procedures had half the state's population displaced and traffic was a nightmare all over.

Les Miles was the head honcho at a new program in an unfamiliar setting. I'd say at least a third of his players had family and friends affected by the two storms. Many from areas directly impacted.

Bottom line: It wasn't so much the damage nor the tragedy of the storm that they "overcame" as much as all the distractons. To get up for their next several games with all the distractions is pretty admirable. If LSU had lost 4 or 5 games that year nobody would have been surprised. Remember this was a new coach, implementing a new system with new players at a new school. He already had a little leverage to lose a few. He far exceeded expectations.

Having said that, Les Miles isn't the greatest gameday coach and he'll be lucky to have 9 win seasons in a few years.

[D^3]

No no no, screw both of you n00bs coming after me for that one... the Gulf Coast was devastated by Katrina, but you don't see Alabama and Auburn playing off of emotion for that one, do you?? I'm sorry, but I'm calling BS.

[M2J]

I think we can all agree that USC has had much more talent than LSU.

Just a couple notes:

1) Miles has continued to stock the team with some of the top talent in the nation.
2) Saban lost more games than Miles did per sesason, while still having some of the most talented players in the nation.
3) Miles managed to go 11-2 the season following Hurricane Katrina, which is impressive on it's own.
4) Miles is 3-0 in bowl games and all 3 were against top 10 teams I believe.

Miles might not be the greatest coach, but it's pretty hard to say he isn't just yet. He has done well and is probably one of the top 3 or 4 coaches in the SEC. Meyer, Spurrier, and Richt are all brilliant to though.

I know that many fans want to believe Miles is a horrible coach(mostly alabama fans, because they want to believe Saban is the greatest), but he has done a much better job than any LSU fan could have hoped for.

Why must we all agree that USC had more talent than LSU? Its not really true, especially when looking at the upperclassmen for the teams from 05-07. In fact, according to Rivals there's been little seperation in their recruiting since 2002 in all but 2005.


Les has done a fine job keeping the recruiting up and basically keeping LA recruits in state after Saban pretty much locked up the borders. But let's not start the Saban had = talent thing up again. There were years like 03 where there was competitive talent to the LSU of 05-07, but that's probably it. The 2003 team still wasn't full of seasoned elite recruits. The 2001 class was awesome and juniors at the time, the 2002 team wasn't the best (full of good talent, but wasn't highly ranked and while that's not always important they were only sophomores) and the 2003 freshmen were ranked highly, but again...freshmen. Other than that you can't tell me that in 2000, 2001, or 2002 there were equal recruits to 2005, and I don't believe the 03 team was as talented as 06 (which may have been the most talented team in LSU history) or 07. Considering the 2001 recruits that weren't there for 2004 (including Mauck, Clayton, Hill, even Clausen who'd transfered) the 2004 team was no more talented than maybe this year's team, and you could say the same or less for some of the other LSU teams prior to 03 with Saban. The talent level overall was no way the same (though good in its own right) when compared to the teams Les inherited.

[D^3]

1. Are you aware of how a hurricane works? It demolished a good part of Lousiana and southern Mississippi. Baton Rouge got hit hard, and that alone can be huge distraction. Maybe you should put yourself in their shoes.
2. Another big distraction: family and friends. Everyone on that team either had a family member or friend that was severly effected by the hurricane, and that can lead you to put football in perspective and lose your concentration.
3. Remember when it happened. I think August 28th. During that time you are really starting to get ready for the season start going, then something like that happens. It can completely throw off everything else your doing in your life.
4. Are you really that big of an a**hole to call the people of Lousiana out on that?


That being said, Les Miles I hate you. I look forward to you purposely mispronouncing Arkansas for years to come then shutting your mouth after you lose to us.


1. Thank you for explaining what a hurricane does. I had no idea. Here I was thinking a hurricane was a big ice cream truck that gives out free dilly bars.

2. You're full of crap, show me something that says every player on that team had somebody or knew somebody severely affected by Katrina. Thats absolute crap, and you know it.

3. Was Alabama and Auburn preparing? You bet your ass they were. Hurricane or no hurricane, life goes on in other parts of the world and that includes Baton Rouge. I'll give them an emotional game, MAYBE for the opening week of the season.

4. No, but I'm a big enough a$$hole to call out tools like you who buy that ESPN soap opera crap.

5. Your screen name sucks... never pick a nickname that includes the name of the head coach who will leave you within 2 years.

[TDArkansasOhmy]

I think we can all agree, anyone, and I mean anyone can coach that program to a winning season with their stock of athletes.

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/1218/lesmileslookinglikeadufuh7.jpg

[azamugg]

I think we can all agree, anyone, and I mean anyone can coach that program to a winning season with their stock of athletes.

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/1218/lesmileslookinglikeadufuh7.jpg



would you like fries with that?

[clockster]

7 wins if they're really lucky......

And DevilDawgDan, thank you, well said man.

Boohoo hurricane boohoo.........yall get no sympathy from me.

[GTTiger]

Jamarcus Russell had 23 family members move in with him after hurricane katrina. Does anyone here think that living with 10 people(more or less 23) wouldn't be a distraction to the starting QB?

[GTTiger]

No no no, screw both of you n00bs coming after me for that one... the Gulf Coast was devastated by Katrina, but you don't see Alabama and Auburn playing off of emotion for that one, do you?? I'm sorry, but I'm calling BS.

Baton Rouge and New Orleans(the two main cities in the state of Louisiana) are both just off the coast.

Outside of Mobile, the main cities in Alabama are all atleast 3-4 hours from the coast. Atlanta doesn't really feel the devestation from the hurricanes either.

Anyhow, it's probably not worth argueing with you. You don't seem like the type of person to take in info, process it, and come up with an informed opinion.

[True Grit]

anybody willing to make a avatar bet? if LSU wins 10 games they have to use a LSU avatar or sig pic of my choice. if they dont, i use a pic of their choice.

[True Grit]

The Tigers lost alot of talent to the NFL this year

wasnt this said when russell, landry, bowe, and davis were drafted in the first round? didnt we go on to win the SEC and the national championship?

[shk999]

anybody willing to make a avatar bet? if LSU wins 10 games they have to use a LSU avatar or sig pic of my choice. if they dont, i use a pic of their choice.

Im your huckleberry. 3 Months sound ok with you?

[True Grit]

This is the most disgusting lame-ass excuse in the history of sports. I'm so sick of hearing about Katrina in regards to LSU. Remind me again, where did Katrina hit? New Orleans? Where is LSU located? Baton Rouge? Oh yeah, Katrina didn't affect LSU football AT ALL. The fact that you guys tout it as some obstacle that Miles overcame is despicable. It started out as ESPN doing the usual dramatizing of a situation to make it bigger than it is, and now some of you Tiger faithful have actually started using it as some sort of accolade, like it was Tiger Stadium that was destroyed, or as if it was your players and coaching staff that had their homes destroyed, and were displaced. I'm not alone in this, I know LSU fans who have said the same thing... Katrina didn't have anything to do with the 07' Tigers.

First of all, nobody said it had anything to do with last year's team.

In case you didnt know, the PMac was used as a shelter. Les let the team off practice so they could help bring supplies to the PMac, as thats the right thing to do.

This also caused the North Texas game to be moved to our bye week. So we played 10 straight weeks...That takes a toll.

[True Grit]

Im your huckleberry. 3 Months sound ok with you?

sure...sound dandy.

[True Grit]

No no no, screw both of you n00bs coming after me for that one... the Gulf Coast was devastated by Katrina, but you don't see Alabama and Auburn playing off of emotion for that one, do you?? I'm sorry, but I'm calling BS.

You cant even begin to compare the damage in Alabama to the damage in Louisiana.

[thunderbird1100]

Pretty amazing reading some of the responses in this thread.

One day LSU won't continue to do as well as we have been but it surely won't be anytime in the very near future. Les has continued to recruit very well and make good hires on his coaching staff. Next year should be a 9-3 type of regular season with the wild cards being at QB and LB but I wouldn't be surprised to see us go 10-2 either. I see us losing @ Auburn and @ Florida for sure but every other game we should be favored to win (obviously doesn't mean we'll win them all, it's why we play the games).

Les has done a top notch job at LSU and both programs he's been the head coach at he's improved the program. Before he arrived at Oklahoma State they were a losing football program, he turned them into a winning football program. Before he arrived at LSU we had good seasons but were inconsistent, he's now ushered in that Pete Carroll level of winning consistency.

It's going to take a serious drop off in recruiting, a mass exodus of transfers or too many bad changes in the coaching department to really bring down LSU.

[gatorunvrsty]

Pretty amazing reading some of the responses in this thread.

One day LSU won't continue to do as well as we have been but it surely won't be anytime in the very near future. Les has continued to recruit very well and make good hires on his coaching staff. Next year should be a 9-3 type of regular season with the wild cards being at QB and LB but I wouldn't be surprised to see us go 10-2 either. I see us losing @ Auburn and @ Florida for sure but every other game we should be favored to win (obviously doesn't mean we'll win them all, it's why we play the games).

Les has done a top notch job at LSU and both programs he's been the head coach at he's improved the program. Before he arrived at Oklahoma State they were a losing football program, he turned them into a winning football program. Before he arrived at LSU we had good seasons but were inconsistent, he's now ushered in that Pete Carroll level of winning consistency.

It's going to take a serious drop off in recruiting, a mass exodus of transfers or too many bad changes in the coaching department to really bring down LSU.

I certainly don't see LSU completely falling apart or anything... they just won't have the kind of year like the last couple, when they had senior QB's and leaders. That happens sometimes after you win it all, and the best guys go pro. I'd think if LSU wins 8 or 9 games, the fans should be grateful, and gear up for '09.

[thunderbird1100]

I certainly don't see LSU completely falling apart or anything... they just won't have the kind of year like the last couple, when they had senior QB's and leaders. That happens sometimes after you win it all, and the best guys go pro. I'd think if LSU wins 8 or 9 games, the fans should be grateful, and gear up for '09.


08 was never supposed to be the "the year" to begin with but I still don't see us going 6-6 or 7-5 like some in this thread see us going (Being very possibly "upset" by Troy and Appalachian State? Are you kidding me???:thumbsdow not talking about you in specific).

8-4 is possible, but we'd really almost have to try and be that bad next year considering the schedule. We'd basically have to lose to every good team we play, then lose to an average team. Which I don't really see happening. We still are loaded in many positions (especially in the trenches, which is where games are won) just have question marks at QB, LB and CB, which doesn't mean they'll suck, just means they're question marks. Every team has question marks.

[ShowTime24]

Pretty amazing reading some of the responses in this thread.

One day LSU won't continue to do as well as we have been but it surely won't be anytime in the very near future. Les has continued to recruit very well and make good hires on his coaching staff. Next year should be a 9-3 type of regular season with the wild cards being at QB and LB but I wouldn't be surprised to see us go 10-2 either. I see us losing @ Auburn and @ Florida for sure but every other game we should be favored to win (obviously doesn't mean we'll win them all, it's why we play the games).

Les has done a top notch job at LSU and both programs he's been the head coach at he's improved the program. Before he arrived at Oklahoma State they were a losing football program, he turned them into a winning football program. Before he arrived at LSU we had good seasons but were inconsistent, he's now ushered in that Pete Carroll level of winning consistency.

It's going to take a serious drop off in recruiting, a mass exodus of transfers or too many bad changes in the coaching department to really bring down LSU.
so you think LSU will be favored to beat UGA? but they will lose to auburn?

[thunderbird1100]

so you think LSU will be favored to beat UGA? but they will lose to auburn?

We should be favored, it's a home game. Huge difference in LSU playing a game in Death Valley than it is Jordan-Hare, The Swamp or between the hedges. IF it were between the hedges I'd say UGA would be fabvored, but, that's not the case. No team should come into Death Valley as the favorite. LSU is 49-7 at home this decade. Only 2 home losses in the past 4 seasons. UGA might have the better team, but this game is in Death Valley, likely on a Saturday Night (last time LSU lost a Saturday night home game was in 2002).

[Bayou Tiger]

I am not a huge fan of Les Miles but I think basketball great Charles Barkeley said it best: "You are what your record says you are!"

There are many very good coaches in the SEC and I think with the coaches that are now in the SEC the conference will be more competitive than ever over then next few years.

I think Les Miles is no different than any other head coach in this regard, the key to successful head coaching is selecting a good coaching staff and none is more key than the OC an DC. I would say at this point Les Miles has done a good job in selecting his staff but next year is a new year so we shall see what his record says he is.

[BAMAPERRY]

I am not a huge fan of Les Miles but I think basketball great Charles Barkeley said it best: "You are what your record says you are!"

There are many very good coaches in the SEC and I think with the coaches that are now in the SEC the conference will be more competitive than ever over then next few years.

I think Les Miles is no different than any other head coach in this regard, the key to successful head coaching is selecting a good coaching staff and none is more key than the OC an DC. I would say at this point Les Miles has done a good job in selecting his staff but next year is a new year so we shall see what his record says he is.

Crowton is a pretty good OC, but I think he made a mistake in his Pelini replacements. We shall see.

[thunderbird1100]

Crowton is a pretty good OC, but I think he made a mistake in his Pelini replacements. We shall see.


I really wanted Jon Tenuta but apparently Tenuta is impossible to get along with.

The reason he promoted from within was basically to have the same defense as Pelini. Scheming shouldn't change much, if any.

[ColonelKurtz]

1. Are you aware of how a hurricane works? It demolished a good part of Lousiana and southern Mississippi. Baton Rouge got hit hard, and that alone can be huge distraction. Maybe you should put yourself in their shoes.
2. Another big distraction: family and friends. Everyone on that team either had a family member or friend that was severly effected by the hurricane, and that can lead you to put football in perspective and lose your concentration.
3. Remember when it happened. I think August 28th. During that time you are really starting to get ready for the season start going, then something like that happens. It can completely throw off everything else your doing in your life.
4. Are you really that big of an a**hole to call the people of Lousiana out on that?


That being said, Les Miles I hate you. I look forward to you purposely mispronouncing Arkansas for years to come then shutting your mouth after you lose to us.

1. The most significant impact of any hurricane is to the NE of its landfall. Red Stick lies over 100 miles to the WEST of Katrina's landfall, which was in MISSISSIPPI and not Lousyana.

2. Yes there were thousands affected but not to the extent reflected in the media. I suffered MORE damage here in Georgia as well as inconvenience from the aftermath of Opal in the mid-90's than did Baton Rouge or the rest of the State did from Katrina.

3. Sh*t happens then you step in it. If you LIVE along the Gulf Coast, you then EXPECT that you'll eventually have to deal with a damned hurricane. No different than the folks along the Mississippi River today and the floods or Californians living where it burns every year. Hard to sympathize with folks who could just as easily live where such sh*t don't happen. That is why we have Interstate Highways, so that you can LEAVE!

4. Much of the lasting effects of Katrina can be lain directly at the feet of Louisianans for THEY ELECTED the crooks and shysters who didn't properly assess the potential of a direct hit over the many decades that the Corps of Engineers were suppose to address. And the guys running the Corps were locals at the beck and call of the Democratic political machine which runs that pathetic State.

LSU will lose 3-4 games this Fall as it seeks to rebuild. Miles net worth as a HC will come next season as there will not be such excuses as lost Senior leadership and breaking in a new QB.

[BAMAPERRY]

I really wanted Jon Tenuta but apparently Tenuta is impossible to get along with.

The reason he promoted from within was basically to have the same defense as Pelini. Scheming shouldn't change much, if any.

Pelinis Defense was getting lit up the 2nd half of the season. With the loss of its Senior leadership, I certainly wouldn't see it getting any better.

[thunderbird1100]

Pelinis Defense was getting lit up the 2nd half of the season. With the loss of its Senior leadership, I certainly wouldn't see it getting any better.

We had a lot of injuries in the 2nd half of the season. And we only got "lit up" offensively twice last year (Ole Miss and Arkansas, couldn't stop either team from moving the ball). Keep in mind LSU finished 3rd in the nation in total defense last year. Not too shabby. Overall offenses were up and defenses were down last year. Part of the whole landscape of CFB changing. This is how our defense did in each game last year...

@ Mississippi State = 146 yards given up
Virginia Tech = 149 yards given up
Middle Tennessee State = 90 yards given up
South Carolina = 261 yards given up
@ Tulane = 227 yards given up
Florida = 314 yards given up
@ Kentucky = 375 yards given up
Auburn = 296 yards given up
@ Alabama = 254 yards given up
Louisiana Tech = 256 yards given up
@ Ole Miss = 466 yards given up
Arkansas = 513 yards given up
Tennessee = 343 yards given up
Ohio State = 353 yards given up

[WDavE]

I really wanted Jon Tenuta but apparently Tenuta is impossible to get along with.

The reason he promoted from within was basically to have the same defense as Pelini. Scheming shouldn't change much, if any.

I have heard the same thing about Tenuta and I would also add that supposedly he doesn't like to recruit. Bad combo if your in the SEC.

[Geaux 58 03 07]

I see a lot of wishful thinking on this board. I guess Les hasn't beaten you enough yet. Hasn't there been a thread like this somewhere every year since Miles was hired? And everyone just KNOWS that this is FINALLY the year that Miles wrecks the Porche, and then what happens? We win 11 or 12 games. Again.

Keep dreaming.




fast forward to 1:32

LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHCm6H9tfQ)

[Bayou Tiger]

Crowton is a pretty good OC, but I think he made a mistake in his Pelini replacements. We shall see.

This decision left me scratching my head too. As of now I choose to give Miles the benefit of the doubt but this fall will be judge!

[Geaux 58 03 07]

We had a lot of injuries in the 2nd half of the season. And we only got "lit up" offensively twice last year (Ole Miss and Arkansas, couldn't stop either team from moving the ball). Keep in mind LSU finished 3rd in the nation in total defense last year. Not too shabby. Overall offenses were up and defenses were down last year. Part of the whole landscape of CFB changing. This is how our defense did in each game last year...

@ Mississippi State = 146 yards given up
Virginia Tech = 149 yards given up
Middle Tennessee State = 90 yards given up
South Carolina = 261 yards given up
@ Tulane = 227 yards given up
Florida = 314 yards given up
@ Kentucky = 375 yards given up
Auburn = 296 yards given up
@ Alabama = 254 yards given up
Louisiana Tech = 256 yards given up
@ Ole Miss = 466 yards given up
Arkansas = 513 yards given up
Tennessee = 343 yards given up
Ohio State = 353 yards given up

Never try to confuse an Alabama fan with facts. It makes their heads explode Scanners style.

[Geaux 58 03 07]

I think he made a mistake in his Pelini replacements.

How about, just for fun, we let them coach ONE game together as DCs before we jump to any conclusions about that decision.

[GeauxTo]

No no no, screw both of you n00bs coming after me for that one... the Gulf Coast was devastated by Katrina, but you don't see Alabama and Auburn playing off of emotion for that one, do you?? I'm sorry, but I'm calling BS.


You have shown your complete ignorance of this situation, plus showing what a complete azzhole you are. Do you know what a triage center is? Do you know that helicopters were coming in and out with both dead bodies for the morgue at the Pete Maravich Assembly Center (across from Tiger Stadium) and badly injured for the hospital at the Bernie Moore Indoor Track Facility? Do you realize that LSU was housing and feeding thousands of refugees? Your mention of Auburn and Alabama doing business as usual is downright laughable. Of course they were, they were not affected.

Here is an article from the LSU Daily Reveille just after Katrina and Rita (which, Col Kurz, caused more actual damage in BR than Katrina because we were on the eastern side of the eye)...

Military helicopters have been ferrying those who did not escape Hurricane Katrina's wrath to campus since late last night. Around 11 p.m. the first helicopter touched down on the Bernie Moore Track Stadium, which has been converted into a makeshift helipad.
Helicopters have been flying in and out of campus routinely today, bringing people rescued from rooftops in New Orleans to the University.
The University is working hand in hand with the Red Cross, the Department of Health and Hospitals and other disaster relief programs to offer medical care to evacuees.

The Maddox Fieldhouse is being used as a temporary hospital with about 350 patients and their caregivers, according to Bob Johannesson, communications coordinator for DHH.
The Pete Maravich Assembly Center has been turned into a medical triage and staging area - as of today, the number of people processed through the PMAC is "in the thousands," Johannesson said.
"Nobody is being turned away," said Kristen Meyer, DHH spokesperson. "If people can't be treated here by us, we transfer them to a facility that can."

Doctors, nurses and other medical professionals have been brought in from around the state to help meet the needs of Katrina's victims.
Because of the increased emergency traffic around these areas of campus, officials are asking the community to avoid travel on Nicholson Drive. North Stadium Drive will be closed to traffic indefinitely.

SCHOOL WOES
The University announced Tuesday that classes have been cancelled until Sept. 6 in response to the University's new-found role as a safe haven for the thousands evacuating New Orleans and the surrounding areas ravaged by Hurricane Katrina.

Officials have also postponed the LSU football season opener against the North Texas University, which was scheduled for Saturday.
In the wake of Katrina's destruction, officials have asked faculty members to be lenient with the collection of assignments and student absences.
The recent suggested dates for scheduling make-up classes on Saturdays have been also cancelled.
"At this point we're not suggesting that classes be rescheduled on Saturdays," said Frank Cartledge, vice provost for academic affairs. "That was the plan when we thought the University was going to re-open for Tuesday."
There is a current plan underway.
"We do have a specific plan, but we need to run it by the deans first and get it approved as to how the semester will go," Cartledge said.
The proposed calendar for the rest of the 2005-06 school year is being analyzed by academic affairs officials.
"We don't have an official word yet on [class rescheduling]," said Patty Beste, associate registrar. "We do have a proposed calendar that everyone is looking at right now."
The Office of Academic Affairs has chosen to not make their planned calendar public.
"We are not revealing the current plan because we've already put out things we've had to change," Cartledge said. "So we think its best we wait."
The plan will hopefully be made permanent and public by tomorrow, Beste said.

DINING HALLS OFFERING FOOD
Students with families that have evacuated the New Orleans area can take their families to both Pentagon and Highland Dining Halls, which are accepting meal plans, Paw Points, Tiger Cash, cash and checks. Students are encouraged to present their student IDs.
Normal food service resumed today on campus.
Both Pentagon and Highland Dining Halls are open today, Aug. 30, with continuous service from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
LSU Dining is offering catering services to both the temporary hospital at the Maddox Fieldhouse and the medical triage at the PMAC, said Aprille Wright, LSU Dining marketing director.
For LSU Dining hours of operation go to the LSU Dining Web site. It can be accessed through the LSU homepage. Click on "LSU A-Z" and then "LSU Dining" and then "Labor Day Holiday Dining Hours of Operation."
Those in the area who are not family members of LSU students are encouraged to go to the Baptist Student Center, 3800 Highland Road. The BCM can be reached at 343-0408. The LSU Dining Office can be reached at 578-6642.

STUDENT VOLUNTEERS
Student Government will be manning a 24-hour hotline, answering questions about where to volunteer and how to donate money, supplies and housing. The hotline will go live after 5 p.m. Wednesday.

CAMPUS CLEAN-UP
Clean-up on campus began Monday morning, despite the continuing winds and rain. Paul Favaloro, director of resources for facility services, said there were a few downed trees and minor structural damage but the campus sustained power through the duration of the storm.
A 20 by 40 foot section of the Life Science Building lost part of its roof covering and debris and trees were scattered in the streets and sidewalks.
"We faired very well in this tragic moment," Favaloro said. "Now we're going to have to help those in most need and accommodate the students."
POLICE STRUGGLING
In their struggle to meet both the new demands placed on their shoulders and to maintain their normal functions, University police officers are becoming more and more strained as their days off are cancelled and their shifts doubled.
"Everyone is in emergency mode," said LSUPD Major Ricky Adams.

TIMES-PICAYUNE RELOCATES To LSU
The Times-Picayune, New Orleans' major newspaper, relocated to Baton Rouge yesterday after being forced out of their downtown offices Tuesday morning.
LSU's Journalism Building has become their makeshift newsroom. The paper has not produced a printed copy for two days, instead relying on their Web site to send out information.
WWL-TV Channel 4 and ABC WGNO have also relocated to the Baton Rouge area from New Orleans. WWL-TV is broadcasting live from the Tiger TV studios in Hodges Hall.

CHRIST THE KING A WORSHIP CENTER
After the daily mass today at Christ the King, "D" Burbank, a New Orleans resident and evacuee, broke into a uplifting rendition of "Amazing Grace," and many others in the congregation joined in with her.
Burbank said she was not worried about material losses.
"That's why we're here, it's what we're praying for," Burbank said. "The sanctity of life, that's all there is."
Burbank said she is organizing a gathering tonight at 8 p.m., focused around community and music at Christ the King.
Most of the people worshipping at the services this morning were from New Orleans, including students and their parents.

[WDavE]

The funniest thing about the movie Scanners was when the people started blowing other peoples minds via phone lines....

[True Grit]

Crowton is a pretty good OC, but I think he made a mistake in his Pelini replacements. We shall see.

We will be running the same defense for the most part, just a few tweaks...I dont see the problem.

[True Grit]

I have heard the same thing about Tenuta and I would also add that supposedly he doesn't like to recruit. Bad combo if your in the SEC.

Not to mention he is now a LB coach at ND, not even a DC.

[True Grit]

LSU will lose 3-4 games this Fall as it seeks to rebuild.

It seems people say we have to rebuild every year...

Going into 2005 we had to replace most of our defense...we win 11 games and the SEC West.

Going into 2006 we replace most of our defense again. We have questions at WR, RB, and OL. We win 11 games and go to a BCS bowl.

Going into 2007 we lose 4 players in the first round...new QB, inexperience at WR, a new OC...we win the national championship.

Yes, there will be a down year for LSU, if you consider 9 or 10 wins a down year.

[ColonelKurtz]

It seems people say we have to rebuild every year...

Going into 2005 we had to replace most of our defense...we win 11 games and the SEC West.

Going into 2006 we replace most of our defense again. We have questions at WR, RB, and OL. We win 11 games and go to a BCS bowl.

Going into 2007 we lose 4 players in the first round...new QB, inexperience at WR, a new OC...we win the national championship.

Yes, there will be a down year for LSU, if you consider 9 or 10 wins a down year.

Never used the word down, I used rebuilding. All of your luck got used up last season and the piper comes collecting this Fall. Auburn will hand you your first loss then Florida. The very next week in Columbia, we'll see what the '08 LSU team is all about for that next Saturday the Dawgs are coming for whatever is left over.

Your turn to play in a Florida Bowl or the Cotton, no shame in that.

[TPM]

Do any of you experts ever get tired of pissing and moaning about someone who aint even YOUR coach. geez

[Geaux 58 03 07]

Never used the word down, I used rebuilding. All of your luck got used up last season and the piper comes collecting this Fall. Auburn will hand you your first loss then Florida. The very next week in Columbia, we'll see what the '08 LSU team is all about for that next Saturday the Dawgs are coming for whatever is left over.

Your turn to play in a Florida Bowl or the Cotton, no shame in that.

:laugh::laugh:

[Geaux 58 03 07]

All of your luck got used up last season.

BTW what luck are you talking about?

[ColonelKurtz]

BTW what luck are you talking about?

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[Geaux 58 03 07]

http://www.forumspile.com/Newbie-Bomb.jpg

Ok smartass.

The only "luck" that I can think of that we benefited from was the WVU-Pitt game.

Of the games we actually played, "luck" didn't factor into it anymore than it factors in for any team.

If you have any specific examples of "luck" helping us win a game, I would be happy to tell you why your wrong. If you pay attention closely, you might even learn a thing or two about the game of football.

[Choctaw]

1. Thank you for explaining what a hurricane does. I had no idea. Here I was thinking a hurricane was a big ice cream truck that gives out free dilly bars.

2. You're full of crap, show me something that says every player on that team had somebody or knew somebody severely affected by Katrina. Thats absolute crap, and you know it.

3. Was Alabama and Auburn preparing? You bet your ass they were. Hurricane or no hurricane, life goes on in other parts of the world and that includes Baton Rouge. I'll give them an emotional game, MAYBE for the opening week of the season.

4. No, but I'm a big enough a$$hole to call out tools like you who buy that ESPN soap opera crap.

5. Your screen name sucks... never pick a nickname that includes the name of the head coach who will leave you within 2 years.

You're an idiot and you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You should stick to whittling or playing banjo and try not to talk about something you nothing about.

[ColonelKurtz]

Ok smartass.

The only "luck" that I can think of that we benefited from was the WVU-Pitt game.

Of the games we actually played, "luck" didn't factor into it anymore than it factors in for any team.

If you have any specific examples of "luck" helping us win a game, I would be happy to tell you why your wrong. If you pay attention closely, you might even learn a thing or two about the game of football.

I suggest you read the threads from that period and familiarize yourself with what has already been hashed out. LSU was damned LUCKY, just as is every team that makes it to the Crystal Ball game.

Unless you are in possession of two post graduate degrees with honor, own your own company, and can remember details from the 1961 football season just like you were there (I was), stfu and earn your respect like everybody else here jackass.

[Choctaw]

I suggest you read the threads from that period and familiarize yourself with what has already been hashed out. LSU was damned LUCKY, just as is every team that makes it to the Crystal Ball game.

Unless you are in possession of two post graduate degrees with honor, own your own company, and can remember details from the 1961 football season just like you were there (I was), stfu and earn your respect like everybody else here jackass.


OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH

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[Geaux 58 03 07]

I suggest you read the threads from that period and familiarize yourself with what has already been hashed out. LSU was damned LUCKY, just as is every team that makes it to the Crystal Ball game.

I'm not going to sift though months worths of threads to find something you said back in January.

I'm still waiting for exactly what made us so lucky (other than the WVU-Pitt result) as compared to any other National Champion. Of course to win a title you need a certain amount of good fortune to help you along the way. Ours wasn't much different from that of most champions.

Unless you are in possession of two post graduate degrees with honor, own your own company, and can remember details from the 1961 football season just like you were there (I was), stfu and earn your respect like everybody else here jackass.

Like I said, if you actually have something to bring to the table football-wise, let's hear it. Otherwise stop crying because it's obvious that you're letting your personal feelings about Georgia get in the way of having this conversation. Either that or you're just lying about your credentials. So which is it, are you a homer or a liar?

[MBGamecock]

Ok smartass.

The only "luck" that I can think of that we benefited from was the WVU-Pitt game.

Of the games we actually played, "luck" didn't factor into it anymore than it factors in for any team.

If you have any specific examples of "luck" helping us win a game, I would be happy to tell you why your wrong. If you pay attention closely, you might even learn a thing or two about the game of football.

I think LSU was "lucky" when they scored that touchdown with the blind toss fake field goal. And again when they threw that touchdown pass as time ran out for the win against Auburn.

[Geaux 58 03 07]

I think LSU was "lucky" when they scored that touchdown with the blind toss fake field goal. And again when they threw that touchdown pass as time ran out for the win against Auburn.

The fake field goal was luck?

So Les gets no credit whatsoever for making a shrewd call that South Carolina was obviously not prepared for?

I'll bet if South Carolina had sniffed it out you would be hammering Les for taking such a risk and failing. So he gets all the blame when his calls don't work, but when they do work he's just "lucky"?

As for the Auburn game, even if it had been incomplete, there would have been either 2 or 3 seconds left on the clock, Colt David would have come in and kicked the field goal. We'll never know if he would have made it or not, but the game would not have been lost on that play.

Next?

Want to talk about the 4th downs against Florida? I hope so because I can talk about the obvious vulnerabilities in the Gator's interior run defense all afternoon.

[MBGamecock]

I'm not going to sift though months worths of threads to find something you said back in January.

I'm still waiting for exactly what made us so lucky (other than the WVU-Pitt result) as compared to any other National Champion. Of course to win a title you need a certain amount of good fortune to help you along the way. Ours wasn't much different from that of most champions................


lucky


adjective
Characterized by luck or good fortune: fortunate, happy, providential. See luck



You admitted it yourself:laugh:

[Geaux 58 03 07]

lucky


adjective
Characterized by luck or good fortune: fortunate, happy, providential. See luck



You admitted it yourself:laugh:

I admit it insofar as we had as much luck as any other National Champion has ever had. That hardly qualifies us for being "owed" a whole bunch of bad luck like Georgia fan insists, which is what the whole discussion is based on.

[MBGamecock]

I'm just ribbin' you a little. I know that throwing and catching a football involves lots of skill, but sometimes you're just dang lucky!

[ColonelKurtz]

Careful noob, you get sassy again and I'll call for you to suffer a bad case of red block disease!

Everything about LSU even playing for the MNC was LUCK and anybody with IQ above that of a goat will attest to it. That the Tigers won simply asserted the obvious fact that the Big Snow blows.

[volimhtown]

I admit it insofar as we had as much luck as any other National Champion has ever had.

REALLY??? :unsure: Hmmmm.....I'm having a hard time remembering what other BCS NT team had two losses in the regular season....Hmmmmm....Oh that's right, LSU was the first!! :ohmy: Snap!! :thumpsup:

Let's see....USC lost to Stanford; WVA lost to Pitt; Missouri had to lose to Oklahoma not once, but twice; Oklahoma lost at TX Tech; Kansas lost to Missouri...if even just ONE of these six games don't go the way they went, LSU has NO trophy and Les Miles isn't so "smart". Kudos for "falling on the fumble" but take your asterisk like a man and stfu!! 2007 will forever be remembered for everyone else's failures as opposed to any success LSU attained!

[Petrino Wins]

1. Thank you for explaining what a hurricane does. I had no idea. Here I was thinking a hurricane was a big ice cream truck that gives out free dilly bars.

2. You're full of crap, show me something that says every player on that team had somebody or knew somebody severely affected by Katrina. Thats absolute crap, and you know it.

3. Was Alabama and Auburn preparing? You bet your ass they were. Hurricane or no hurricane, life goes on in other parts of the world and that includes Baton Rouge. I'll give them an emotional game, MAYBE for the opening week of the season.

4. No, but I'm a big enough a$$hole to call out tools like you who buy that ESPN soap opera crap.

5. Your screen name sucks... never pick a nickname that includes the name of the head coach who will leave you within 2 years.


1. Clearly, you don't understand how hurricane works because you don't understand how Baton Rouge could have gotten effected by Katrina when Baton Rouge is just an hour outside of New Orleans.

2. Its a f***ing team. Picture this: you have a handful of players who have families who have lost everything. Those players have to sit in Baton Rouge in very limited contact with their families because their families have lost everything. That is a huge distraction for the entire team.

3. Auburn and Alabama preparing are you joking? Oh yeah, watch out for the severe thunderstorm warning. PLEASE. You cannot compare what Tuscaloosa and Auburn went through to Baton Rouge, Biloxi, etc. You are basically calling Katrina just a small bump in the road for the team, and that is flat out ignorant and pitiful.

4. No, I hate ESPN, seeing how I am a Petrino fan. I didn't buy into the soap opera..I BOUGHT INTO THE FACT THAT 1,723 DIED BECAUSE OF KATRINA

5. Oh thats admirable, telling me my screen name sucks. I saw you called me a "noob" too. Im hoping you are under the age of 20, cause if you aren't thats pretty embarassing.

[D^3]

1. Clearly, you don't understand how hurricane works because you don't understand how Baton Rouge could have gotten effected by Katrina when Baton Rouge is just an hour outside of New Orleans.

2. Its a f***ing team. Picture this: you have a handful of players who have families who have lost everything. Those players have to sit in Baton Rouge in very limited contact with their families because their families have lost everything. That is a huge distraction for the entire team.

3. Auburn and Alabama preparing are you joking? Oh yeah, watch out for the severe thunderstorm warning. PLEASE. You cannot compare what Tuscaloosa and Auburn went through to Baton Rouge, Biloxi, etc. You are basically calling Katrina just a small bump in the road for the team, and that is flat out ignorant and pitiful.

4. No, I hate ESPN, seeing how I am a Petrino fan. I didn't buy into the soap opera..I BOUGHT INTO THE FACT THAT 1,723 DIED BECAUSE OF KATRINA

5. Oh thats admirable, telling me my screen name sucks. I saw you called me a "noob" too. Im hoping you are under the age of 20, cause if you aren't thats pretty embarassing.

Man, this numbers thing is fun.

1. Baton Rouge is 80 miles from New Orleans. Close, but not affected by the Hurricane. So unless the streets were flooded in Baton Rouge, I will continue to say "get over it." TULANE is actually IN New Orleans, but LSU fans make a bigger deal out of how stressful it was for them than Tulane does. That should tell you something.

2. Name a handful of players whose families lost everything. You can't do it.

3. Oh, so now you want to throw BILOXI into the mix. Well, thats in Mississippi... lets get Mississippi State in on the pity party while we're at it. And you know what? Lets bring Houston into this too. Those Cougars sure couldn't be expected to play a game, what with all the refugees in Houston and all.

4. Clearly that equates to LSU not being able to focus, as they were the only people in the world who were sad about Katrina.

5. Your screen name does suck. So does your coach. I don't expect you'll be around here long enough to be embarrassed when the man whore leaves you though, so no worries.

[D^3]

As for the Auburn game, even if it had been incomplete, there would have been either 2 or 3 seconds left on the clock, Colt David would have come in and kicked the field goal. We'll never know if he would have made it or not, but the game would not have been lost on that play.




No there wouldn't have been... y'all have convinced yourselves of that, but the tape tells the story. Furthermore, that was a horribly thrown pass, and had the Auburn defender simply turned his head, he would have had an interception and the game would have been over right then. It was a horrible play call, a horrible pass, and the luckiest win of the season, easily.

[thunderbird1100]

Man, this numbers thing is fun.

1. Baton Rouge is 80 miles from New Orleans. Close, but not affected by the Hurricane. So unless the streets were flooded in Baton Rouge, I will continue to say "get over it." TULANE is actually IN New Orleans, but LSU fans make a bigger deal out of how stressful it was for them than Tulane does. That should tell you something.

2. Name a handful of players whose families lost everything. You can't do it.

3. Oh, so now you want to throw BILOXI into the mix. Well, thats in Mississippi... lets get Mississippi State in on the pity party while we're at it. And you know what? Lets bring Houston into this too. Those Cougars sure couldn't be expected to play a game, what with all the refugees in Houston and all.

4. Clearly that equates to LSU not being able to focus, as they were the only people in the world who were sad about Katrina.

5. Your screen name does suck. So does your coach. I don't expect you'll be around here long enough to be embarrassed when the man whore leaves you though, so no worries.

Good lord, what a bunch of garbage. You were nowhere near Baton Rouge or New Orleans during or after the storm, so you have no idea what you are even talking about. My first few weeks spent down at LSU were before, during and after Hurricane Katrina and I won't be the last to say shut your mouth because you have no idea what you're babbling on and on about. That is all.:brick:

[D^3]

Good lord, what a bunch of garbage. You were nowhere near Baton Rouge or New Orleans during or after the storm, so you have no idea what you are even talking about. My first few weeks spent down at LSU were before, during and after Hurricane Katrina and I won't be the last to say shut your mouth because you have no idea what you're babbling on and on about. That is all.:brick:



We had worse severe weather in Metro Atlanta as a result of Katrina than Baton Rouge did. Furthermore, we had refugee centers set up here as well, and I volunteered at one of them, so STFU. What did YOU do to help?

[thunderbird1100]

No there wouldn't have been... y'all have convinced yourselves of that, but the tape tells the story. Furthermore, that was a horribly thrown pass, and had the Auburn defender simply turned his head, he would have had an interception and the game would have been over right then. It was a horrible play call, a horrible pass, and the luckiest win of the season, easily.

Wow, clearly once again you have not a clue what you're talking about.

CLEARLY tape shows him catching the ball with 3-4 seconds left on the clock, and they ran 2-3 more seconds off the clock after the TD catch. If he wouldn't of caught it, there would of been AT LEAST 1 second left on the clock. Should of been 2-3 seconds. This was at LSU, that game would not of ended on an incomplete pass. IF the clock ran out due to an incomplete pass, it would of been reviewed, or time put back on the clock, guarantee it.

And the pass was PERFECT, maybe you don't watch enough football to know though? Byrd beat the Auburn DB in man up coverage just barely and Flynn put the ball spot on. Could of easily overthrown Byrd or underthrown him, but the ball was SPOT ON. When you're beat as a DB you don't have time to look back and go for a play, you catch up to your man and play your man. Clearly, once again, if you watched the tape, the ball was thrown perfectly. Anything more would of been an overthrown, anything less would mean the DB could of made a play on the ball.

[D^3]

And the pass was PERFECT, maybe you don't watch enough football to know though? Byrd beat the Auburn DB in man up coverage just barely and Flynn put the ball spot on. Could of easily overthrown Byrd or underthrown him, but the ball was SPOT ON. When you're beat as a DB you don't have time to look back and go for a play, you catch up to your man and play your man. Clearly, once again, if you watched the tape, the ball was thrown perfectly. Anything more would of been an overthrown, anything less would mean the DB could of made a play on the ball.



You're an idiot if you think that was a perfectly thrown pass. He almost hit the defender in the back with it. And given the quality of Auburns defense... you are extremely LUCKY that the DB did not turn his head and just intercept it... because it was there for the taking. But since you've already committed to being ignorant, I won't bother further with trying to convince you. Enjoy the upcoming train wreck!

[thunderbird1100]

We had worse severe weather in Metro Atlanta as a result of Katrina than Baton Rouge did. Furthermore, we had refugee centers set up here as well, and I volunteered at one of them, so STFU. What did YOU do to help?

I can't even believe you're asking me this. I don't even want to get started on what I did for Katrina, just know you don't have a clue what went on IN Baton Rouge or IN Louisiana. Try cleaning up an entire side of your families homes for a couple years for starters and allow strangers to live with you and then you might have a small taste of some things I did/had to deal with from the hurricane. Please shut your mouth, you have NO CLUE son.:brick:

[thunderbird1100]

You're an idiot if you think that was a perfectly thrown pass. He almost hit the defender in the back with it. And given the quality of Auburns defense... you are extremely LUCKY that the DB did not turn his head and just intercept it... because it was there for the taking. But since you've already committed to being ignorant, I won't bother further with trying to convince you. Enjoy the upcoming train wreck!


What idiot brick hit you recently? "almost hit the defender in the back"...well, it didn't, the ball was thrown PERFECTLY...in front of the DB, right into the hands of Byrd. Byrd had to do nothing but catch it in his bread basket, and he did.

The DB didn't have a chance to intercept it because he GOT BEAT. He was catching up to Byrd and the he had no time to look back to make a play on the ball. The best he could of done was knock it out Byrd's hands when he caught. Had the ball been UNDERTHROWN he might of had a chance to intercept playing the man, but it wasn't. Maybe if you watched a little more football or played it you'd understand how something like that works.

And who is a Georgia fan to talk about train wrecks? 1980 much? Talk about irrelevant.:brick:

[Choctaw]

Careful noob, you get sassy again and I'll call for you to suffer a bad case of red block disease!


I honestly couldnt care less how many red blocks i have because my rep on this board means nothing to me. Unlike you, who probably brings it up at work and brags about it at family reunions. Post counts mean nothing, just like your opinion.

[Bulldog Bry]

Ah, SECTalk in June. Always exciting.

I find it comical that Miles has the record he does, yet everyone continues to pooh-pooh him. Was LSU lucky last year? You bet, every NC team gets some luck. It's what they DO with it that defines them.
As for the Katrina argument, I do think it was initially an obstacle they had to overcome that year. New Orleans politics aside, it was a major deal for the entire state.

Having said that, I will point to Georgia's road record since Richt's arrival to counter LSU's record at Death Valley. Sumpin's gotta give. And, well, since I'm a homer.....................

[GeauxTo]

Everybody knows it's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when". 2008? 2009? When does Les ride LSU into the ground? Les Miles fell in to one of the most fortunate situations of any head coach since...well...Larry Coker. Nobody can honestly say they think Les is a great coach, he rode Saban's coat tails just like Terry Bowden rode Pat Dye. The Tigers lost alot of talent to the NFL this year, key players such as Flynn, Hester and Steltz among others, not to mention one of the best defensive weapons in the entire league, Glenn Dorsey. The QB situation is grim down on the bayou, the departure of Ryan Perrilloux complicates things for Les, to say the least. While RP's extra circular activites clearly were causing Miles problems, he is still worth his weight in gold between the sidelines. The good news for Les, he will make enough in the next couple of yrs before he is fired to live pretty well or who knows, maybe Rich Rod will be looking for a good "get back coach" and he can finally return home to Michigan. It will be good for LSU too, they have been living beyond their means for far too long now and returning to the lower middle of the SEC will make the fans feel like they're home again. With Tubby keeping AU strong seemingly every year and the Tide working hard to regain their proper place at the top of the West, LSU's impending decline will return some normalcy to the SEC and all will be right in the world of cfb. Dont blink corndogs, because before you know it that rivalry with Ole Miss will once again be one of the biggest games of your season.
;)

shk


Let me congratulate you on the writing in this post! Very articulate and well stated. But, then again, most FICTION writers have a way with words!
:thumbs:

[Geaux 58 03 07]

REALLY??? :unsure: Hmmmm.....I'm having a hard time remembering what other BCS NT team had two losses in the regular season....Hmmmmm....Oh that's right, LSU was the first!! :ohmy: Snap!! :thumpsup:

Let's see....USC lost to Stanford; WVA lost to Pitt; Missouri had to lose to Oklahoma not once, but twice; Oklahoma lost at TX Tech; Kansas lost to Missouri...if even just ONE of these six games don't go the way they went, LSU has NO trophy and Les Miles isn't so "smart". Kudos for "falling on the fumble" but take your asterisk like a man and stfu!!

good lord you have an anger management problem.

I already said several times that we were very fortunate to have the chips fall where they did. What i was referring to was luck in the games we played.

As for how some people up in Tennessee remember 2007, I really could care less. We're National Champions, you're not, and that's life.

Why don't we go ahead and put an asterix next to the Giants Super Bowl Championship while we're at it. After all, they lost SIX games!!! Sounds bogus to me!!!!

2007 will forever be remembered for everyone else's failures as opposed to any success LSU attained!

bitter much?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4U_CryYILI

[Geaux 58 03 07]

You're an idiot if you think that was a perfectly thrown pass. He almost hit the defender in the back with it. And given the quality of Auburns defense... you are extremely LUCKY that the DB did not turn his head and just intercept it... because it was there for the taking. But since you've already committed to being ignorant, I won't bother further with trying to convince you. Enjoy the upcoming train wreck!

look at the video, even if it had been Incomplete, there would have been 2 or 3 seconds left to kick the winning field goal. It's as plain as day. Lying to yourself about it won't make it any better.

[Geaux 58 03 07]

Careful noob, you get sassy again and I'll call for you to suffer a bad case of red block disease!

Everything about LSU even playing for the MNC was LUCK and anybody with IQ above that of a goat will attest to it. That the Tigers won simply asserted the obvious fact that the Big Snow blows.

I can see that no amount of facts can dissuade you from your ignorance. That's fine. But even if you beat us 100-0 this fall, we'll still be 2007 National Champions and there's nothing you can do about it :D

[Geaux 58 03 07]

For the record, I'm astounded by how much LSU venom there is on this board.

I like it. It means we're doing something right.

2008 may or may not be a rebuilding year, but don't expect us to go away anytime soon, we still have a few more National Championships to win on this current run we're on.

[GeauxTo]

Georgia knows that their most likely loss in 2008 will be at the hands of LSU in Death Valley, so they're spewing all of this BS now because they know how this is going to turn out.

Alabama spews to be spewing... they realize that another 6-6 season is in the offing for them, and that Saban's return to Baton Rouge is going to be a bloodbath for the Tide.

Let'em blow off. Ole "dumb" Les is already putting bulls eyes on Richt and Saban.

[ColonelKurtz]

Georgia knows that their most likely loss in 2008 will be at the hands of LSU in Death Valley, so they're spewing all of this BS now because they know how this is going to turn out.

Alabama spews to be spewing... they realize that another 6-6 season is in the offing for them, and that Saban's return to Baton Rouge is going to be a bloodbath for the Tide.

Let'em blow off. Ole "dumb" Les is already putting bulls eyes on Richt and Saban.

Don't become like the bammers and try to protect these noobs from getting their interweb hazing G2. This one can't read so I hold little hope for him. And yes, y'alls asses will be whipped, the only question is how bad.

[Petrino Wins]

Man, this numbers thing is fun.

1. Baton Rouge is 80 miles from New Orleans. Close, but not affected by the Hurricane. So unless the streets were flooded in Baton Rouge, I will continue to say "get over it." TULANE is actually IN New Orleans, but LSU fans make a bigger deal out of how stressful it was for them than Tulane does. That should tell you something.

2. Name a handful of players whose families lost everything. You can't do it.

3. Oh, so now you want to throw BILOXI into the mix. Well, thats in Mississippi... lets get Mississippi State in on the pity party while we're at it. And you know what? Lets bring Houston into this too. Those Cougars sure couldn't be expected to play a game, what with all the refugees in Houston and all.

4. Clearly that equates to LSU not being able to focus, as they were the only people in the world who were sad about Katrina.

5. Your screen name does suck. So does your coach. I don't expect you'll be around here long enough to be embarrassed when the man whore leaves you though, so no worries.


1.Just because the levees didn't break in Baton Rouge by no means Baton Rouge didn't get hard. Baton Rouge got their fair share of the hurricane. When your college town gets hit by a f***ing category five hurricane, you are going to have problems

2.You are right. I can't name them. But I gurantee you they are there. LSU gets a lot of talent out of their home state. The whole state got hit very very hard. Thus put 2 and 2 together.

3. I was using Biloxi as an example. And, if you knew anything, you would know Biloxi got pretty much cleared to the point of non-existance. But, you don't, so I am sorry for you.

4. You are so ignorant it is amazing. That number alone proves how much of a tragedy and a disaster Katrina was. Its pretty obvious you are stubbornly stuck on your selfish belief that disaster likes this happens and you thinks its bullshit it can be used as any sort of excuse for not being as focused.

5. Going at my "noob" status again. I think my friends 11 year old brother called me a "noob" when i asked if I could try playing Call of Duty. As for Petrino, he will be here longer than two years because you think the exact same way the media does, but thats another argument. But if you want to argue about that too I would love to.

[Geaux 58 03 07]

Don't become like the bammers and try to protect these noobs from getting their interweb hazing G2. This one can't read so I hold little hope for him. And yes, y'alls asses will be whipped, the only question is how bad.

Georgia will be a great challenge that I'm looking forward to meeting, despite the handful of jackass fans of theirs on the internet.

[The Ramp]

more sad obsession....

[The Ramp]

Man, this numbers thing is fun.

1. Baton Rouge is 80 miles from New Orleans. Close, but not affected by the Hurricane. So unless the streets were flooded in Baton Rouge, I will continue to say "get over it." TULANE is actually IN New Orleans, but LSU fans make a bigger deal out of how stressful it was for them than Tulane does. That should tell you something.

2. Name a handful of players whose families lost everything. You can't do it.

3. Oh, so now you want to throw BILOXI into the mix. Well, thats in Mississippi... lets get Mississippi State in on the pity party while we're at it. And you know what? Lets bring Houston into this too. Those Cougars sure couldn't be expected to play a game, what with all the refugees in Houston and all.

4. Clearly that equates to LSU not being able to focus, as they were the only people in the world who were sad about Katrina.

5. Your screen name does suck. So does your coach. I don't expect you'll be around here long enough to be embarrassed when the man whore leaves you though, so no worries.


i'm sorry but this is just too ignorant to even respond too

[The Ramp]

REALLY??? :unsure: Hmmmm.....I'm having a hard time remembering what other BCS NT team had two losses in the regular season....Hmmmmm....Oh that's right, LSU was the first!! :ohmy: Snap!! :thumpsup:

Let's see....USC lost to Stanford; WVA lost to Pitt; Missouri had to lose to Oklahoma not once, but twice; Oklahoma lost at TX Tech; Kansas lost to Missouri...if even just ONE of these six games don't go the way they went, LSU has NO trophy and Les Miles isn't so "smart". Kudos for "falling on the fumble" but take your asterisk like a man and stfu!! 2007 will forever be remembered for everyone else's failures as opposed to any success LSU attained!


what teams didn't get lucky with this disaster they call the BCS? only a few haven't. big deal. sounds like petty jeolousy to me

[The Ramp]

this thread cracks me up. when les continues to win, i'll bookmark this thread. of course, you guys will have some new excuses. this may be a down season (9 wins my guess) but we always do better in odd years (easier schedule). continue your jeolousy disguised as hate. Urban cries in press conferences, Tubby chop blocks, Fulmer is on his last legs, Saban compares losing to ULM to 9/11, and yet you guys continue call us names and focus on Miles as if your coach could win it all with the "mythical" Saban talent at LSU. pathetic really. this is why i never come here any more. if fact, this site has gone downhill quickly. with the venomous name-calling and same old tiresome posts, this is my last post here.

[GeauxTo]

Ramp! Come back, Ramp! We need you!

<sighs>
Frankly, Charlotte, I don't give a damn!

[shk999]

this thread cracks me up. when les continues to win, i'll bookmark this thread. of course, you guys will have some new excuses. this may be a down season (9 wins my guess) but we always do better in odd years (easier schedule). continue your jeolousy disguised as hate. Urban cries in press conferences, Tubby chop blocks, Fulmer is on his last legs, Saban compares losing to ULM to 9/11, and yet you guys continue call us names and focus on Miles as if your coach could win it all with the "mythical" Saban talent at LSU. pathetic really. this is why i never come here any more. if fact, this site has gone downhill quickly. with the venomous name-calling and same old tiresome posts, this is my last post here.

Later :bigwave:

[shk999]

Let me congratulate you on the writing in this post! Very articulate and well stated.


Thanks Geaux, but I have to admit I was inspired by your "If the Tide flops" thread. It was so touching to know that even though football is still months off, you Bouchers are still thinking about us. I felt that returning "the love" was the least I could do for the corndog nation.
:biggrin:

[Bozo_bus]

Everybody knows it's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when". 2008? 2009? When does Les ride LSU into the ground? Les Miles fell in to one of the most fortunate situations of any head coach since...well...Larry Coker. Nobody can honestly say they think Les is a great coach, he rode Saban's coat tails just like Terry Bowden rode Pat Dye. The Tigers lost alot of talent to the NFL this year, key players such as Flynn, Hester and Steltz among others, not to mention one of the best defensive weapons in the entire league, Glenn Dorsey. The QB situation is grim down on the bayou, the departure of Ryan Perrilloux complicates things for Les, to say the least. While RP's extra circular activites clearly were causing Miles problems, he is still worth his weight in gold between the sidelines. The good news for Les, he will make enough in the next couple of yrs before he is fired to live pretty well or who knows, maybe Rich Rod will be looking for a good "get back coach" and he can finally return home to Michigan. It will be good for LSU too, they have been living beyond their means for far too long now and returning to the lower middle of the SEC will make the fans feel like they're home again. With Tubby keeping AU strong seemingly every year and the Tide working hard to regain their proper place at the top of the West, LSU's impending decline will return some normalcy to the SEC and all will be right in the world of cfb. Dont blink corndogs, because before you know it that rivalry with Ole Miss will once again be one of the biggest games of your season.
;)

shk

It HAS to be a matter of when: no one wins in perpetuity! How about in 2018, because "when" does not appear to be in the near future. The even years are always tougher for the Tigers, but the next year it will be all Tigers again. All this venom directed at LSU on this thread says two things to me, 1) the Fighting Tigers are having enviable success; 2) the spewers are not. One looks to the future with hope when the present is crummy. It contents me that The Tigers are the defending National Champions and it makes me smile to read all this wishful thinking. When somebody wins their 3rd Crystal Trophy, they will have topped the Fighting Tigers, until then, keep looking up to see them. If you cannot give credit when it is due, do not expect it when it is your turn.

[D^3]

1.Just because the levees didn't break in Baton Rouge by no means Baton Rouge didn't get hard. Baton Rouge got their fair share of the hurricane. When your college town gets hit by a f***ing category five hurricane, you are going to have problems

2.You are right. I can't name them. But I gurantee you they are there. LSU gets a lot of talent out of their home state. The whole state got hit very very hard. Thus put 2 and 2 together.

3. I was using Biloxi as an example. And, if you knew anything, you would know Biloxi got pretty much cleared to the point of non-existance. But, you don't, so I am sorry for you.

4. You are so ignorant it is amazing. That number alone proves how much of a tragedy and a disaster Katrina was. Its pretty obvious you are stubbornly stuck on your selfish belief that disaster likes this happens and you thinks its bullshit it can be used as any sort of excuse for not being as focused.

5. Going at my "noob" status again. I think my friends 11 year old brother called me a "noob" when i asked if I could try playing Call of Duty. As for Petrino, he will be here longer than two years because you think the exact same way the media does, but thats another argument. But if you want to argue about that too I would love to.


1. Georgia wasn't stupid enough to build a town below sea level with a faulty levee system and never reinforce it, knowing full well it wasn't adequate to hold up. So I guess my college town will be better off if a cat-5 ever hits here.

2. Oh, you "guarantee" it, huh? Well, isn't that nice. Shame that I don't really place any stock in the guarantees of somebody who just showed up here and has never made an argument with any quantitative proof to back it up.... just random facts pulled from your ass with no basis.

3. So you are admitting MSU has a more legit claim to grievances over the hurricane....

4. I think you LSU fans are worse than Nick Saban talking about Pearl Harbor. You talk about the Katrina tragedy as if it should be some sort of accolade for your football program, in Baton Rouge, not affected by the Hurricane, while thousands are still homeless and your players are receiving $500-600 worth of electronics as Bowl gifts and getting NFL multi-million dollar contracts. Bite me.

5. You really hate that word, don't you noob? BTW, there's nothing to argue about Petrino... he's a manwhore and he's proved it. End of discussion.

[TPM]

^ Hey BOZO, Expect to get flamed by the retards around here! But welcome aboard.

[shk999]

It HAS to be a matter of when: no one wins in perpetuity! How about in 2018, because "when" does not appear to be in the near future. The even years are always tougher for the Tigers, but the next year it will be all Tigers again. All this venom directed at LSU on this thread says two things to me, 1) the Fighting Tigers are having enviable success; 2) the spewers are not. One looks to the future with hope when the present is crummy. It contents me that The Tigers are the defending National Champions and it makes me smile to read all this wishful thinking. When somebody wins their 3rd Crystal Trophy, they will have topped the Fighting Tigers, until then, keep looking up to see them. If you cannot give credit when it is due, do not expect it when it is your turn.

Nice theory but it holds no water. Bama has been anything but successful lately and there is plenty of "venom" reserved for us.

[shk999]

You corndogs are killin' me. You can trash Saban 'til your blue in the face (and do on a regular basis) but God forbid somebody says something about Les.

[thunderbird1100]

You corndogs are killin' me. You can trash Saban 'til your blue in the face (and do on a regular basis) but God forbid somebody says something about Les.

Poor Gump.

Kind of comes w/6 loss seasons. :laugh:

[shk999]

Poor Gump.

Kind of comes w/6 loss seasons. :laugh:

I'll give you that one Corndog, you waited a lifetime to be able to say that. :laugh:

[GTTiger]

this thread cracks me up. when les continues to win, i'll bookmark this thread. of course, you guys will have some new excuses. this may be a down season (9 wins my guess) but we always do better in odd years (easier schedule). continue your jeolousy disguised as hate. Urban cries in press conferences, Tubby chop blocks, Fulmer is on his last legs, Saban compares losing to ULM to 9/11, and yet you guys continue call us names and focus on Miles as if your coach could win it all with the "mythical" Saban talent at LSU. pathetic really. this is why i never come here any more. if fact, this site has gone downhill quickly. with the venomous name-calling and same old tiresome posts, this is my last post here.

I agree with you ramp. It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation/arguement about college football on this board anymore. Every thread is about Miles and LSU's decline, Bama's future greatness, or about how great UGA will be this year.

[timNem]

I agree with you ramp. It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation/arguement about college football on this board anymore. Every thread is about Miles and LSU's decline, Bama's future greatness, or about how great UGA will be this year. all this goes in cycles, next week it will be bash UT or Arky and it will really heat up as the summer goes on. I would say half of it is just plain ole ribbing. I wouldn't take so serious as to quit the site. Once the season starts, its time to quit barking and start biting and pony up.

[shk999]

all this goes in cycles, next week it will be bash UT or Arky and it will really heat up as the summer goes on. I would say half of it is just plain ole ribbing. I wouldn't take so serious as to quit the site. Once the season starts, its time to quit barking and start biting and pony up.

I think Geaux put it best when he said its "certainly legitimate fodder for discussion. No one is taking shots, we're simply discussing the reality of the situation and the possible outcomes.":glare:

[crawfish]

You corndogs are killin' me. You can trash Saban 'til your blue in the face (and do on a regular basis) but God forbid somebody says something about Les.

http://peoplecollector.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/045.jpg

You caught us shk999!
Dog! I thought we were going to get away with it!
:laugh::laugh:

[LSUbadcat]

Les has not only increased the talent level at LSU during his first three seasons, but he now has the best O.C. and a great defensive scheme--compliments of Pelini.

Home cooking with the refs is the only thing that keeps LSU from winning the West every year!

[shk999]

http://peoplecollector.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/045.jpg

You caught us shk999!
Dog! I thought we were going to get away with it!
:laugh::laugh:

...and you would've gotten away with it too if it wasnt for those meddling kids. :laugh:

[crawfish]

...and you would've gotten away with it too if it wasnt for those meddling kids. :laugh:

Those suckers rat us out every time! Stupid kids!:laugh:

[Geaux 58 03 07]

You corndogs are killin' me. You can trash Saban 'til your blue in the face (and do on a regular basis) but God forbid somebody says something about Les.

Maybe that's because Les doesn't have a special spot in Hell reserved for him (next to histories other traitors, Brutus and Judas) like Saban does.

[Geaux 58 03 07]

I'll give you that one Corndog, you waited a lifetime to be able to say that. :laugh:

a lifetime? Your last 6 loss season wasn't very long ago, and neither is your next.

[D^3]

a lifetime? Your last 6 loss season wasn't very long ago, and neither is your next.



Keep telling yourself that. We'll have to mark this post of yours for next December when Bama is sitting at 10-2 and playing in Atlanta while LSU at 7-5 is sitting at home.

[Bozo_bus]

^ Hey BOZO, Expect to get flamed by the retards around here! But welcome aboard.

Thx, TPM -- for the warning and the welcome! :goodjob:

Being flamed by those who wannabe where LSU sits is an honor. While you will not hear me call them "retarded," other words come to mind: enormously frustrated, embittered by envy, driven by losses to insanity, incapable of a lucid thought, delusional, just plain silly. :crazy:

As you know, the talent level in Tigertown is well-nigh at an all-time high and will be even better after the next class comes in with Russell Shepard leading the way. Our "dumb" coach will have an opportunity to continue to better the genius coaches who face him. If they fail to beat him, it will make them even dumber, no? :laugh:

Over/under:

8
Number of temper tantrums Saban throws on the sidelines in Deaf Valley* next season. :mad:

3
Number of times Chop Block Ramsey is carried off the field. :blackeye::blackeye::blackeye:

6
Number of trick plays Spurrier tries against The Hat in a losing effort.:pop:

This is too easy! And flaming responses as a bonus? This clown has gone to circus heaven! :angel: :jestera:


*back in the 60's Tiger Stadium was called this, though many do not recall that name. Death Valley is/was Clemson, of course. Tiger Stadium is/was LOUD!

[Geaux 58 03 07]

Keep telling yourself that. We'll have to mark this post of yours for next December when Bama is sitting at 10-2 and playing in Atlanta while LSU at 7-5 is sitting at home.

You're an idiot.


bookmark it, take a picture, write it in down

[D^3]

You're an idiot.


bookmark it, take a picture, write it in down



I'm just soaking up the irony here of being called an idiot by someone who can't form a proper sentence.

[Bozo_bus]

Nice theory but it holds no water. Bama has been anything but successful lately and there is plenty of "venom" reserved for us.

shk, my theory is expressly dealing with venom directed to LSU on this thread.

As for venom directed to Bama, there is another theory: it was earned. :jestera:

Good luck with your coach, Coach "relative-to-whatever" is in serious need of anger management classes, relative to anger. :flaming:

[timNem]

I think Geaux put it best when he said its "certainly legitimate fodder for discussion. No one is taking shots, we're simply discussing the reality of the situation and the possible outcomes.":glare:
Geauxmer is so quotable isn't he? :laugh:

[shk999]

Geauxmer is so quotable isn't he? :laugh:

Yes he is. Here's a little more insight from Geaux.

To retaliate by dissing someone else's coach is simply childish and avoiding contributing intelligent thought to the topic under discussion.

Bozo, Geaux Jr and the rest of you newbie corndogs could learn something from this guy.
:laugh:

Saban doesnt like you anymore, get over him already.:biggrin:

[Petrino Wins]

1. Georgia wasn't stupid enough to build a town below sea level with a faulty levee system and never reinforce it, knowing full well it wasn't adequate to hold up. So I guess my college town will be better off if a cat-5 ever hits here.

2. Oh, you "guarantee" it, huh? Well, isn't that nice. Shame that I don't really place any stock in the guarantees of somebody who just showed up here and has never made an argument with any quantitative proof to back it up.... just random facts pulled from your ass with no basis.

3. So you are admitting MSU has a more legit claim to grievances over the hurricane....

4. I think you LSU fans are worse than Nick Saban talking about Pearl Harbor. You talk about the Katrina tragedy as if it should be some sort of accolade for your football program, in Baton Rouge, not affected by the Hurricane, while thousands are still homeless and your players are receiving $500-600 worth of electronics as Bowl gifts and getting NFL multi-million dollar contracts. Bite me.

5. You really hate that word, don't you noob? BTW, there's nothing to argue about Petrino... he's a manwhore and he's proved it. End of discussion.

1. Ok, LSU can't use the hurricane as an excuse because the city council didn't want to upgrade the levee system?You are arguing that let me get this correct..that LSU players cannot use Katrina as an excuse because the city of Baton Rouge did not prepare for it..yes. that makes sense. because the football program has control over how the city prepares for a hurricane. LSU has control over FEMA. Genius.

2. So, you don't think there were players on the team that had families lose everything? None of the players lost anything that meant anything to them? Say that right now because thats what you are arguing. And if you think that, Im arguing with a blind person.

3. WOW, Biloxi isn't where Mississippi State is located. Try FOUR HOURS NORTH AT A PLACE CALLED STARKVILLE. Now I really know I am dealing with an idiot.

4.I hate LSU by the way. But that besides the point. All that is said about the LSU team that year is that considering the talent they could have ended up with a better finish that they did and Katrina could have been a variable in the finish. And don't pull the sympathy card for the homeless, some of the stuff you have said earlier has saved you a spot in hell.

5. He's not going anywhere because of the way the media destroyed him and every AD in America saw it. Yeah he's an ass hole. He loves upgrading his job and as soon as he proves he is great college coach again he will have a team take a chance on him. But thats going to take a few years, and thats why he won't be leaving as soon as people think.

[shk999]

a lifetime? Your last 6 loss season wasn't very long ago, and neither is your next.

(I guess you have to spell it out for the Noobs, really takes the fun out of debate)

Im talking about the lifetime of 6 loss (or worse) seasons you Bouchers have endured Geaux Jr...you know, "pre-Saban". Honestly, I see where you were confused, I should have said 7 or 8 loss seasons, then you would have known I meant LSWho since thats the kind of football you were playing before Saban put you on the map.

[Bozo_bus]

Yes he is. Here's a little more insight from Geaux.



Bozo, Geaux Jr and the rest of you newbie corndogs could learn something from this guy.
:laugh:

Well it is clear to me that YOU can learn and have learned a lot from him, but my education is from the same place and so the learning needed to dispatch the likes of you is already in place. Thanks anyway. He might have a fine tailgating recipe that would be of great interest to me, though, or recruiting insights, or something in his chosen field of expertise.

Saban doesnt like you anymore, get over him already.:biggrin:
We "got over" on him once already and look forward to "getting over" on him again in Deaf Valley this coming season. After that, increasing doses of Russell Shepard will keep that "getting over" on him an annual affair -- Bama delusions/aspirations notwithstanding. Believe it or not, we are delighted Les spurned Michigan to remain in Baton Rouge. You may think he is dumb, but he beat 5 coaches last season who had won national championships. How many coaches have ever done that in one season? Our wagon is hitched to Les and we intend to ride it far into the future. Two Crystal Trophies and counting...the LSU program is right where we want it and where everyone else wishes theirs were: defending National Champs. Say it ain't so!

In the meantime, you can teach us how to lose gracefully -- when you learn how -- for that inevitable time when our glory years fade into history (as they have for Bama). All things must pass (unless it's 4th and 1). Otherwise, spare us your unsolicited advice. :jestera:

[hangukdawg]

Someone could watch urban hitch his pants every time the gators fumble the ball or don't get the first down and assume he's a loser too. This is really stupid, stupid stuff. 11 wins or more every season he's coached at LSU. He's got everything that a UF fan would use to argue Meyer's a great coach. I know a lot of teams out there who wish they would've done as well as this "dumb" coach's team has the last three years.

Funny that it's the teams who have trouble beating him who continue to call him out.

Bama 0-3
UF 1-2

[gatorunvrsty]

Someone could watch urban hitch his pants every time the gators fumble the ball or don't get the first down and assume he's a loser too. This is really stupid, stupid stuff.