SEC West and what does the future hold?

[M2J]

I just read this pretty decent, yet I guess very obvious column from the great Auburn coach Terry Bowden :laugh: SEC West: A Perfect Storm - NCAA Football - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=tb-secwest061008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

Talks about how the SEC West has the best division of coaches in the nation, paying guys big time bucks (including the 2 highest salaried coaches in the nation and 2 touching on 3 mil) and how something will have to give and 1 of these highly thought of coaches will have to finish 5 and 6th in the division and the money they're paid is far too much to be in last on a consistent basis.

Considering that there are new coaches in the division (going back last year with Saban) who are getting paid a lot of money, and Les isn't going anywhere anytime soon (and maybe the same can be said for Tommy unless they decide to have more weird contract negotiations) the only coach in the division that looks as if there's a chance to maybe be fired in the next 4-5 seasons is Croom possibly.

So Im wondering just in the SEC West what would you say the standings will be for the next 5 years, and I know its impossible to truly know as by year 5 the players on the roster haven't even been recruited yet, but from trends, expectations, guesses, and opinion of the abilities of the programs and the coaches themselves... how would you rank their futures?

This year I say (and I think its very wide open for the top 3-4 teams with a lot of turnover, but just how its looking):
Auburn
LSU
Alabama
MSU
Miss
Arky

09:
Auburn
Alabama
LSU
Arkansas
Ole Miss
MSU

'10:
Alabama
LSU
Arkansas
Auburn
Ole Miss
MSU

'11:
Alabama
LSU
Auburn
Arkansas
Ole Miss
MSU

'12: I can barely do this with a straight face nor correctly
LSU/Alabama/Auburn
Ole Miss/Arky


The trend I see is in the upcoming years Auburn will be fine and a strong contender for the conference and likely win the West from recent years they have had pretty strong recruiting classes, have good depth overall and a talented QB and Tubby will take advantage of some things. I believe LSU's QB turnover will set them back a bit the next 2 years, but next year certainly stand a chance as Auburn has a lot of question marks as well (specifically in 08). In a couple of years I see the talent and coaching ability putting Bama at the top in a few years along with LSU. I think in the division these will be the 2 schools with the resources to bring in the top talent and stay on the upper echelon talent-wise and Auburn and Arkansas will be relatively near by. I think Auburn will find a way and get some good talent from throughout the southeast, but with Saban seeming to be able to own the state of Alabama regarding the top recruits that Auburn was able to get when Bama was down and basically coachless its gonna hurt Tubby talentwise. I think Arkansas with Petrino will be on the level with Auburn soon enough, not dominant in the division or conference but able to contend for it consistently and on occasion winning the division too. The cupboard isn't bare as it is now from Nutts days of recruiting, and it may only pick up, and Petrino is a very talented coach. I'd actually think that this is a bit of a stepping stone job for Petrino. There was a time when I think he could win and win big at Arkansas, but this isn't it. Once he has his breakout season or 2, he'll move to a bigger job in an easier place, but that could be a ways off, but that's one of the ways I see the log jam of coaches in the division lightening up.

Ole Miss doesn't have a bare cupboard either and Nutt's proven himself as a coach who is a nice recruiter and shown the ability to get a lot done without the most talent, and Mississippi will be a fun team to watch and an upset waiting to happen, but I don't foresee him having the same success as in Arky with a couple SEC title trips as the competition is too tough. Sly I see gone from State in the not so distant future... If he has a solid year this season and even improves on last year he could (and would be wise to) head to a bigger and better job before he gets embarrassed. Soon enough i see his stock falling as I just don't see him getting the talent @ MSU to get where he wants to be and again the competition is getting too tough.

Just my opinions. There's always rooms for upsets and surprises, but as for how I'd rank the teams in the pre-seasons... that's it.

[BAMAPERRY]

I believe Allbarn has only won the West twice since Tubersteak has been there and Tubersteak has only won the SEC ONCE in the 13 years he's been a HC in the SEC. All this while he has had the fortunate position of Bama being down. He's not going to win the SEC this year or any other. Bobby Lowder will make sure he's the 1st SECW coach fired. You can "bank" on that.

[M2J]

Like I said, that's how I see things in the pre seasons (and all too often things often change during the season amongst the top 2-3 teams in divisions or conferences)... but I think Auburn has a really good opportunity as their 06 and 07 recruiting classes were pretty strong and they have a pretty talented team overall right now. Not only that, but I do think the QB situation in LSU has placed them a bit behind Auburn right now and overall Bama doesn't have the seasoned talent or overall depth of them at the moment as Auburn or LSU and would take a lot of youngsters stepping up big time (though its possible).

[shanksta13]

'12: I can barely do this with a straight face nor correctly
LSU/Alabama/Auburn
Ole Miss/Arky


I, too, agree that Mississippi State will no longer be a part of the SEC in 2012, giving the SEC a round robin style and no championship game, meaning a never-ending supply of National Championships for the SEC Champion. :laugh:

[M2J]

:laugh: I basically left them off then because I don't think Croom will still be there and the thread is basically about how the coaches do.

[the Paradox]

I would love to add some insight, but as a Bama fan I know nothing about the future. I do however know a lot about the past. :laugh:


RTR

[carwwest]

i dont understand all the bashing of state.....and why would anyone think petrino is going to stay at arkansa$$ for more than he has stayed anywhere else.....

[currdog]

No credit for croom? has done more with less money, sounds about right!

[azamugg]

i dont understand all the bashing of state.....and why would anyone think petrino is going to stay at arkansa$$ for more than he has stayed anywhere else.....

so why the bashing of arkansas/petrino then?

[currdog]

This thread sounds and smells like Bama bull ! , anyone out there answer this, witch will happen first. JPW coming up with a win at Auburn or leading his team for a TD against State , now there's some Bama bull !

[JerryBeeds]

Wow. I would like the powerball numbers from Terry Bowdung.

[M2J]

I respect Croom a hell of a lot and I know he's a hell of a coach, and think he'd do well to have another good year and get out. I just think that the program he has @ MSU has the biggest hill to climb. You could say Ole Miss and Arky have more talent on their rosters currently and in the long run have an advantage. Like the article says, something's gotta give and I think MSU is at a disadvantage.

And I said in my post that I don't think Petrino will be there too long, its a stepping stone job for him right now. A few years ago had he been at Arkansas its possible he could've built something special, but with Alabama, Auburn and LSU having the head start and the coaching they have, its not a job I see right now that can hold a top spot in the division or conference (I didn't even mention the East programs ahead of him, which could be maybe 4).

[M2J]

Wow. I would like the powerball numbers from Terry Bowdung.

Those are my predictions, not his. I'll give you lotto numbers though :laugh:

[Apes]

I love how this is centered around "bama fans bash Auburn" thread...

[FearBlackmon]

" All this while he has had the fortunate position of Bama being down."

Down?!?! Perry are you kidding me? 7 yrs of beatdowns from your biggest rival and loss to LA Monroe... You sound like a typical BAMA fan trying to relive the glory days of 80's BAMA program you probably had no part in. What a JOKE!

What do BAMA fans and maggots have in common?
-They both feed off DEAD BEARS.

[WDavE]

I believe Allbarn has only won the West twice since Tubersteak has been there and Tubersteak has only won the SEC ONCE in the 13 years he's been a HC in the SEC. All this while he has had the fortunate position of Bama being down. He's not going to win the SEC this year or any other. Bobby Lowder will make sure he's the 1st SECW coach fired. You can "bank" on that.

File 13 for this one...

BamaPerry is this boards Edgar Cayce. Except he is wrong 99% of the time.

Just for the record... Saban has never had back to 10 win seasons in his career.

[azamugg]

" All this while he has had the fortunate position of Bama being down."

Down?!?! Perry are you kidding me? 7 yrs of beatdowns from your biggest rival and loss to LA Monroe... You sound like a typical BAMA fan trying to relive the glory days of 80's BAMA program you probably had no part in. What a JOKE!

What do BAMA fans and maggots have in common?
-They both feed off DEAD BEARS.



wow Mr. Originality calm down and act like a grown up .....or do you like to act like the people that piss you off? see the paradox?

our glory days were certainly not in the 80's, even though in that decade we had more 10 win seasons than half of the SEC has had in their history

[Choctaw]

I hate tubberdouche more than anyone but i think Auburn will win the west before Bama will. just my opinion

[King-Tusk]

I thought Bowden's article put the arms race in the SEC West in perspective and opened the eyes of some fans who want their team to win the division every year. The SEC is a who's who of coaching and the West holds its own pretty well in that regard. While all of us want our school to be the top dog year in, year out, it isn't going to happen like that.

Bama paid a ton of money and maybe their souls to land Saban, but the honeymoon is over. While I think Bama is ready to make a run and finish top 3 in the conference this year, if they duplicate last year's results, we'll be hearing major rumblings out of Tide Nation boosters who want more for their dollar.

Auburn gave Tubs a new contract(you're welcome Tommy) and with that, higher expectations. Tigers faithful are ready to see the team back at the level they were in 2003 and with a new offense the fans will be expecting to see less power and more flash. I don't think this season will be the one as the Tigers are breaking in a new offense, new quarterback, and new DC. Tubs will put together a competitive team and keep the heat off of him by extending his streak over Bama. Sorry Tide fans.

Petrino is regarded as an offensive genius and put together a remarkable run at Louisville. That is really his claim to fame. He crashed in Hotlanta and made some enemies in leaving. I don't see him leaving in the next couple of years as many have speculated for one simple fact: his reputation preceeds him. He is viewed as a wanderer and I don't see any other big program taking a chance on him if he were to try and bail on Arkansas after a year or two. The NFL will certainly not come courting him, so unless he wants to take a step back he'll stay in Fayetteville long enough to put together a team the likes of which we haven't seen here since the 60's.

Miles is a national championship coach. For right now, that should be enough for LSU fans. He is a bit goofy on the sidelines, loud at odd times, and needs to know how to pronounce the names of the states in the SEC, but he wins. Unless he sits down and stops doing anything, I don't see him or the Tigers falling to Ole Miss status in the division.

nutt is an average coach who will win a few games he's not supposed to and lose some he shouldn't. He can get his team to the top of the peak, yet forget to prepare them to stay there. He'll be a good fit in Oxford and as long as he keeps them on the positive side of .500, he should be able to retire there.

Croom really surprised a lot of people last season with the performance of his team. He showed that he can hang in the SEC among the giants, but now he has to show that it wasn't a fluke. Can he build a consistently successful program in Starkville? No one knows. Although I like Sly and don't want to see him out of the league, Miss St will be the next SEC West team looking for a new coach.

[BAMAPERRY]

" All this while he has had the fortunate position of Bama being down."

Down?!?! Perry are you kidding me? 7 yrs of beatdowns from your biggest rival and loss to LA Monroe... You sound like a typical BAMA fan trying to relive the glory days of 80's BAMA program you probably had no part in. What a JOKE!

What do BAMA fans and maggots have in common?
-They both feed off DEAD BEARS.

This has been our worst decade of football in our history. We've been down, but that's changing quickly. Much to the demise of Auburn.

[RBLtoHOG]

i dont understand all the bashing of state.....and why would anyone think petrino is going to stay at arkansa$$ for more than he has stayed anywhere else.....


Maybe because he has said his entire career that he wanted to coach in the SEC and now he's here?

[Petrino Wins]

i dont understand all the bashing of state.....and why would anyone think petrino is going to stay at arkansa$$ for more than he has stayed anywhere else.....

THE MEDIA. The media made him look so terrible. Every AD in the nation heard over and over again how he was a terrible person and a liar, and I am sure they do not have good view of him. He is getting paid 2.85 a year so he is pretty happy in that regard. No one wants him so it will take him probably 5 or 6 years at Arkansas to prove he can coach and he will stick with a team atleast for a little while..then Carroll, Meyer, or somebody else leave for NFL and off goes Petrino..but thats just my prediction

[bamagt]

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What do BAMA fans and maggots have in common?
-They both feed off DEAD BEARS.
I'm not sure how well you can read but we aren't talking about the past buddy. It clearly states in the thread title "What does the future hold?"

[True Grit]

I think instead of LSU and Auburn contending for the West most years, like it has been most years in this decade, it will be LSU and Bama.

[clockster]

" All this while he has had the fortunate position of Bama being down."

Down?!?! Perry are you kidding me? 7 yrs of beatdowns from your biggest rival and loss to LA Monroe... You sound like a typical BAMA fan trying to relive the glory days of 80's BAMA program you probably had no part in. What a JOKE!

What do BAMA fans and maggots have in common?
-They both feed off DEAD BEARS.

How has NOONE called this unoriginal bastard out on this yet?

SEVEN years of beatdowns? Where is he getting that statistic....?

I believe the number you were looking for is SIX.....dumba$$.

Absolutely no brains, man they teach good math down in Cow Town. :thumbsdow

[M2J]

I think instead of LSU and Auburn contending for the West most years, like it has been most years in this decade, it will be LSU and Bama.

If Auburn can continue to get recruiting back on track after a poor class...I think they stay in the mix or possibly in the top 2 of the division with Bama over the next decade. It'll be interesting to see how recruiting goes in Arky as well... if Petrino can recruit enough to keep talent on track with the other schools, a lot could get done there.

its gonna be extremely fun to see the direction this conference goes over the next 5 years to a decade. I mean by a couple of years tough OOC games will be unfair considering what you have to play in conference. Its also gonna be fun to see what coaches survive the battle royal year in and year out

[True Grit]

I dont think Petrino stays at Arky long, imo.

I think Nutt gets Ole Miss to 6-7 wins a year.

As much as I respect Croom...I dont think Miss St will continue to get better. Hopefully he will get to another school.

I see Auburn falling to 8 wins a season...

I see Bama going up to where Auburn has been. Winning 10 games annually, competing for the West every year, and going to New Years day bowls.

I see LSU staying about the same. IDK about a NC every 4 years, but a man can hope.

[thethird]

I see LSU staying about the same. IDK about a NC every 4 years, but a man can hope.

Wow, thanx for the HOMER opinion. I don't see LSU going bad but to say they will stay "about the same" with a dip $hit coach like Miles is laughable.

[thethird]

Absolutely no brains, man they teach good math down in Cow Town. :thumbsdow

And based on your signature, the crime rate is looking about right down in B-Ham. Keep thugin' homie.:ph34r:

[M2J]

I dont think Petrino stays at Arky long, imo.

I think Nutt gets Ole Miss to 6-7 wins a year.

As much as I respect Croom...I dont think Miss St will continue to get better. Hopefully he will get to another school.

I see Auburn falling to 8 wins a season...

I see Bama going up to where Auburn has been. Winning 10 games annually, competing for the West every year, and going to New Years day bowls.

I see LSU staying about the same. IDK about a NC every 4 years, but a man can hope.

I don't think Petrino calls it a career in Arkansas, but I think he stays there long enough to do some nice things and maybe have a big season or 2 that will make bigger jobs come after him. But, If he does find a way to improve the recruiting there pretty considerably, he's a good enough coach to do great things there, but that's a big if. I could see him gone by 6 years max though, but I think he HAS to do improve the team considerably or he won't find a better situation as his rep is down right now as a coach and a person.



And yeah I don't know about NCs every 4 years either for LSU anymore:laugh:

[clockster]

And based on your signature, the crime rate is looking about right down in B-Ham. Keep thugin' homie.:ph34r:

Its a rap group you f*cking Auburnite....it has nothing to do with crime or Birmingham.

You are right about one thing though, we keep in the highest murder rate here in Birmingham and its because of bitches like you....

Bring your redneck ass to the Eastside and we will f*cking murder you, on spot.

No consequences, you will die if I ever see you. BITCH

Matter'a fact, just ask, and you've got the address to find me......I'll post it whenever you're ready to throwdown f*ckboi.

[AFWarrior83]

Its a rap group you f*cking Auburnite....it has nothing to do with crime or Birmingham.

You are right about one thing though, we keep in the highest murder rate here in Birmingham and its because of bitches like you....

Bring your redneck ass to the Eastside and we will f*cking murder you, on spot.

No consequences, you will die if I ever see you. BITCH

Matter'a fact, just ask, and you've got the address to find me......I'll post it whenever you're ready to throwdown f*ckboi.


Wow that AU/BAMA hatred is no joke! BTW, no way LSU plays for the national championship with in the next 8 years! The SEC is too tough for one team to dominate every year. I also think Arkansas will win the SEC by 2010.

[clockster]

Wow that AU/BAMA hatred is no joke!

Damn right.

We don't take sh!t like that as a joke where I'm from.

You will get your life snatched with that kinda attitude.....

Not to mention this straw-chewin' Prattville b!tch probably hadn't rode his tractor outside of that nasty town in Montgomery so he doesnt know what REAL is......and doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

Nothin' but old crusty half-dead hicks out there and all of them own goats and horses....

Like I said, we can end this real quick 'theturd'....you know the deal.

[azamugg]

Its a rap group you f*cking Auburnite....it has nothing to do with crime or Birmingham.

You are right about one thing though, we keep in the highest murder rate here in Birmingham and its because of bitches like you....

Bring your redneck ass to the Eastside and we will f*cking murder you, on spot.

No consequences, you will die if I ever see you. BITCH

Matter'a fact, just ask, and you've got the address to find me......I'll post it whenever you're ready to throwdown f*ckboi.



Clockster.................if you knew how much this post makes YOU sound like a whiny punk, you wouldnt have posted it.........the Eastside? you talking about Huffman, Centerpoint, etc?

if you don't like Third then stay clear of him ........."we will f*cking murder you" LOL

[the Prodigy]

Bla bla bla.... one thing history has taught me it's that everyone wants Arkansas to be last in the SEC because it fits their picture of a perfect SEC world. Well it's never happened. And it won't. If I were you I'd plan on Arkansas winning the west at least a couple of times if not more in the next 5-10 years.

[BAMAPERRY]

Its a rap group you f*cking Auburnite....it has nothing to do with crime or Birmingham.

You are right about one thing though, we keep in the highest murder rate here in Birmingham and its because of bitches like you....

Bring your redneck ass to the Eastside and we will f*cking murder you, on spot.

No consequences, you will die if I ever see you. BITCH

Matter'a fact, just ask, and you've got the address to find me......I'll post it whenever you're ready to throwdown f*ckboi.

Will one of the mods please remove this POS from this board?

[thethird]

Ah come on guys, leave clockster alone, he's just expressing his feelings. He's a real O.G. from the streets of B-Ham! FLAVOR FLAVE!!!!

[WDavE]

Just a comment or two about some of this thread.

1. It was mentioned earlier about our poor recruiting class. Our last recruiting class was ranked 18th in the country. Nothing to write home about but was 5th best in the SEC. I think our most important recruit might well have been Franklin our OC.

2. After further review, it might be noted that 29 true freshmen or redshirted freshmen played for us last year. That bodes well for the next three seasons regardless of the incoming recruits.

[True Grit]

Wow, thanx for the HOMER opinion. I don't see LSU going bad but to say they will stay "about the same" with a dip $hit coach like Miles is laughable.

Has Tubbs won a national championship?

Didnt think so.

[ColonelKurtz]

Damn right.

We don't take sh!t like that as a joke where I'm from.

You will get your life snatched with that kinda attitude.....

Not to mention this straw-chewin' Prattville b!tch probably hadn't rode his tractor outside of that nasty town in Montgomery so he doesnt know what REAL is......and doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

Nothin' but old crusty half-dead hicks out there and all of them own goats and horses....

Like I said, we can end this real quick 'theturd'....you know the deal.

Roflmao!

http://www.forumspile.com/Shit-Bullshit_bag.jpg

[WDavE]

Has Tubbs won a national championship?

Didnt think so.

Just when was the last undefeated LSU team?:brick:

[Choctaw]

Damn right.

We don't take sh!t like that as a joke where I'm from.

You will get your life snatched with that kinda attitude.....

Not to mention this straw-chewin' Prattville b!tch probably hadn't rode his tractor outside of that nasty town in Montgomery so he doesnt know what REAL is......and doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

Nothin' but old crusty half-dead hicks out there and all of them own goats and horses....

Like I said, we can end this real quick 'theturd'....you know the deal.


http://www.randomcollections.info/images/posters_random_e_thug.jpg

[Choctaw]

Wow that AU/BAMA hatred is no joke! BTW, no way LSU plays for the national championship with in the next 8 years! The SEC is too tough for one team to dominate every year. I also think Arkansas will win the SEC by 2010.

LSU will be in the NC game in 2010 (2009 season). Bank on it.

[RaMMeR JaMMeR]

When was the last time auburn mattered? Never

[Geaux 58 03 07]

When was the last time auburn mattered? Never

If Auburn doesn't matter right now then what does that say about Alabama?

[Petrino Wins]

If Auburn doesn't matter right now then what does that say about Alabama?

very true.

[TDArkansasOhmy]

Petrino is getting bashed by you guys. So how long you been working at ESPN?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeHa-eSt8FI

And how can we forget the king of all king pricks. Chris Berman and his holly than you comments on NFL Countdown, the 1st Sunday after Arkansas hired Petrino. WTF is he about looking into the camera and saying, Bobby Petrino and Arkansas deserve each other? Well what I have to say in regards to that is, ESPN, You deserve this. What a warm co-worker he must be. (WARNING: Following video clip is rated PG-13)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TLG_LtWhj4

[zorak34]

Heed all of thee of the west. Drink gobs and gobs of wild turkey and you will gain the incredible power that exists within the bottle of the masterful turkey. All fellows of the west arise and I say to you gobal gobal oh and gobal!

[clockster]

Corner of 7th Ave and Higdon, EASTLAKE, ALABAMA, right outside of Century Plaza

If I'm talkin the bullsh!t that all you people think, then COME WALKIN DOWN IT.

This is no joke, I'm here all day and I will exterminate every single one of you talking shit.

Some kid throws a racist remark about my personal life and sig and you all think its me being the douchebag??

I got a glock .40 and I'm watching for one of you crackers to come through, WALK YOUR TALK BITCHASSES.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m304/gabrielclockster/higdon.jpg

[thethird]

Wow, someone REEEALLY needs to ban this punk. I don't even stay in Prattville at the moment but I think I speak for the most of us when I say we have more important things to do (jobs) then to participate in your gang related games. And no one mentioned anything about your race buddy, you obviously have a lot of growing up to do.

[thunderbird1100]

Corner of 7th Ave and Higdon, EASTLAKE, ALABAMA, right outside of Century Plaza

If I'm talkin the bullsh!t that all you people think, then COME WALKIN DOWN IT.

This is no joke, I'm here all day and I will exterminate every single one of you talking shit.

Some kid throws a racist remark about my personal life and sig and you all think its me being the douchebag??

I got a glock .40 and I'm watching for one of you crackers to come through, WALK YOUR TALK BITCHASSES.

Internet tough guy - Encyclopedia Dramatica (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Internet_tough_guy)

[AUTiger94]

Damn right.

We don't take sh!t like that as a joke where I'm from.

You will get your life snatched with that kinda attitude.....

Not to mention this straw-chewin' Prattville b!tch probably hadn't rode his tractor outside of that nasty town in Montgomery so he doesnt know what REAL is......and doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

Nothin' but old crusty half-dead hicks out there and all of them own goats and horses....

Like I said, we can end this real quick 'theturd'....you know the deal.
What an f'ing Dumbass Loser!

[WDavE]

A glock 40?

That would make you feel kind of unarmed on my street. All of us are hunters on my small street out in the country.

I have a 10 guage shotgun that I load my own shells for (brass) . Using a slugs, I could stop your car....


The only problem is that after I shoot no one can see for a minute or two. Unless the wind is blowing.

[timNem]

Dang!!!! Gabriel has flipped. Chill man.

[LSUbadcat]

Louisiana High School Football is LSU's private feeder program and with our second BCS championship, Texas, Georgia and Florida will continue to fill our talent cupboard.

Florida or Georgia will continue to be our main competition!

[bigtreydaddy]

Corner of 7th Ave and Higdon, EASTLAKE, ALABAMA, right outside of Century Plaza

If I'm talkin the bullsh!t that all you people think, then COME WALKIN DOWN IT.

This is no joke, I'm here all day and I will exterminate every single one of you talking shit.

Some kid throws a racist remark about my personal life and sig and you all think its me being the douchebag??

I got a glock .40 and I'm watching for one of you crackers to come through, WALK YOUR TALK BITCHASSES.

If you were a true thug, you wouldn't know how to use a computer. Also, you wouldn't have spelled "douchebag" correctly if you were truly "gangsta."

[BAMAPERRY]

Louisiana High School Football is LSU's private feeder program and with our second BCS championship, Texas, Georgia and Florida will continue to fill our talent cupboard.

Florida or Georgia will continue to be our main competition!

Louisiana has ALWAYS supplied LSU. Saban made LSU, and Miles will bring you back down to your normal level. Alabama puts out better talent than Louisiana. Witness our #1 recruiting class. Times, they are a changin'.

[WarEagle73]

This has been our worst decade of football in our history. We've been down, but that's changing quickly. Much to the demise of Auburn.


Your assertion that Bama's good recruiting class from last year somehow signals the demise of Auburn is over simplistic and illustrates a sophomoric view of the state of the SEC. Auburn had several disadvantages in recruiting last year. Among these were limited room on the roster, a high level of freshmen & sophomores thus making the chance of a prospect seeing early playing time remote, new offensive & defensive coordinators, along with our main recruiting rival (Bama) having ample available scholarships coupled with good prospects for incoming freshmen to get on the field early. Even with all of these disadvantages, Auburn still put together a top 20 class. Furthermore, our 2009 class is already shaping up to be among the top in the nation. We are garnering interest from recruits that in the past had not given us a second thought. This is due to Tony Franklin and his myriad of contacts with high school programs across the nation. It is quite clear that Auburn is not going to be drown in a sea of Bama recruiting. I do think Saban will enjoy much success year in and year out in recruiting. Bama's 2009 class is a testament to this fact. But Auburn is not going anywhere. We too are recruiting well and show no signs of letting up. Instead of Bama starting a trend where they separate themselves from their main West foes (Auburn, LSU, & Arkansas), what is actually happening is that Bama at long last is rejoining the top tier of the SEC. The result of this trend will be that for the foreseeable future you will see Auburn, LSU, Bama, and probably Arkansas all "bubbling up" to the top for a year or so before being overtaken by one of the others for a year or so. To think that any one team can dominate the West (or the East for that matter) for more than a couple of years is pure fantasy.

[Choctaw]

Louisiana has ALWAYS supplied LSU. Saban made LSU, and Miles will bring you back down to your normal level. Alabama puts out better talent than Louisiana. Witness our #1 recruiting class. Times, they are a changin'.

LSU (or should i say Louisiana) made Saban. Noone even knew who he was at MSU. He came to LSU and recruited Louisiana kids, which was at an all-time high in talent level. Alabama had a great year last year in recruiting talent but overall 'bama does not put out the talent that LA does. That is common knowledge. Look at your recruiting class so far and look at LSU's. LSU has as many 4 stars as 'Bama has total commits. LSU will probably have the #1 or #2 recruiting class next year while 'bama may not make the top 10.

[Cianne]

Alabama had a great year last year in recruiting talent but overall 'bama does not put out the talent that LA does. That is common knowledge. Look at your recruiting class so far and look at LSU's. LSU has as many 4 stars as 'Bama has total commits. LSU will probably have the #1 or #2 recruiting class next year while 'bama may not make the top 10.

LSU only has five commitments from the state of Louisiana with three of them being 4 stars. Alabama has seven current commitments so if you're trying to compare Louisiana talent to Alabama commitments, you're a little off base.

Also, Louisiana talent and Alabama talent are the top are certainly comparable this year. Louisiana has nine players ranked 4 stars or better with two of them being 5 stars. Alabama has eight players ranked 4 stars or better with three of them being 5 stars.

[thunderbird1100]

Louisiana has ALWAYS supplied LSU. LSU made Saban, and Miles is taking LSU to new heights which has become your normal level now. Louisiana and Alabama talent are very similar, however, Louisiana has produced far more pros and more draft picks, proving Louisiana talent is better. Witness LSU continually winning 11+ games under Les Miles. Times, they have changed.

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