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timNem
04-25-2008, 10:46 PM
Survey: Less Than Half of all Published Scientists Endorse Global Warming Theory



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IPCC co-chairs for Netherlands and Sierra Leone debate changes to the Report Summary.

Comprehensive survey of published climate research reveals changing viewpoints

In 2004, history professor Naomi Oreskes performed a survey of research papers on climate change. Examining peer-reviewed papers published on the ISI Web of Science database from 1993 to 2003, she found a majority supported the "consensus view," defined as humans were having at least some effect on global climate change. Oreskes' work has been repeatedly cited, but as some of its data is now nearly 15 years old, its conclusions are becoming somewhat dated.

Medical researcher Dr. Klaus-Martin Schulte recently updated this research. Using the same database and search terms as Oreskes, he examined all papers published from 2004 to February 2007. The results have been submitted to the journal Energy and Environment, of which DailyTech has obtained a pre-publication copy. The figures are surprising.

Of 528 total papers on climate change, only 38 (7%) gave an explicit endorsement of the consensus. If one considers "implicit" endorsement (accepting the consensus without explicit statement), the figure rises to 45%. However, while only 32 papers (6%) reject the consensus outright, the largest category (48%) are neutral papers, refusing to either accept or reject the hypothesis. This is no "consensus."

The figures are even more shocking when one remembers the watered-down definition of consensus here. Not only does it not require supporting that man is the "primary" cause of warming, but it doesn't require any belief or support for "catastrophic" global warming. In fact of all papers published in this period (2004 to February 2007), only a single one makes any reference to climate change leading to catastrophic results.

These changing viewpoints represent the advances in climate science over the past decade. While today we are even more certain the earth is warming, we are less certain about the root causes. More importantly, research has shown us that -- whatever the cause may be -- the amount of warming is unlikely to cause any great calamity for mankind or the planet itself.

Schulte's survey contradicts the United Nation IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report (2007), which gave a figure of "90% likely" man was having an impact on world temperatures. But does the IPCC represent a consensus view of world scientists? Despite media claims of "thousands of scientists" involved in the report, the actual text is written by a much smaller number of "lead authors." The introductory "Summary for Policymakers" -- the only portion usually quoted in the media -- is written not by scientists at all, but by politicians, and approved, word-by-word, by political representatives from member nations. By IPCC policy, the individual report chapters -- the only text actually written by scientists -- are edited to "ensure compliance" with the summary, which is typically published months before the actual report itself.

By contrast, the ISI Web of Science database covers 8,700 journals and publications, including every leading scientific journal in the world.

crawfish
04-25-2008, 10:55 PM
Not good news for Sir Gore....but then again, what does he really care with all his high energy burning mansions and his ability to jet all over the world in fuel sucking jets! But he cares about how much we use though! Cough! Cough!

timNem
04-25-2008, 11:03 PM
Not good news for Sir Gore....but then again, what does he really care with all his high energy burning mansions and his ability to jet all over the world in fuel sucking jets! But he cares about how much we use though! Cough! Cough!
not to mention Tipper's collection of muscle cars that she drives. you know those '68 Camaros do not burn fuel as clean :laugh:

azamugg
04-25-2008, 11:12 PM
whats funny is I believe this topic would be a little over Zartan's head.......bet Tim, if he stays out I'm right, if he comes in, you win........I'll pm you the amount

timNem
04-25-2008, 11:22 PM
I'm always up for that

D^3
04-25-2008, 11:26 PM
The most academic source that zartan would draw from on this subject would be the movie "The Day after Tomorrow"

zartan
04-26-2008, 06:08 AM
whats funny is I believe this topic would be a little over Zartan's head.......bet Tim, if he stays out I'm right, if he comes in, you win........I'll pm you the amount
pay up, gramps.

zartan
04-26-2008, 06:11 AM
The most academic source that zartan would draw from on this subject would be the movie "The Day after Tomorrow"
right. and you get your foreign policy views from Red Dawn, or possibly the Rambo films.

azamugg
04-26-2008, 06:55 AM
oh I won the bet Zartan, don't you worry..........I won the bet, and it had nothing to do with this thread that I baited you with

azamugg
04-26-2008, 06:58 AM
right. and you get your foreign policy views from Red Dawn, or possibly the Rambo films.

and you get your personality from "The Birdcage"

zartan
04-26-2008, 09:16 AM
and you get your personality from "The Birdcage"
and you follow me around everywhere i go on this board and try to bait me into replying to you because you crave my attention.

sheluvsbama
04-26-2008, 09:31 AM
What does mankind know about the possible ramifications of global warming? Admittedly, not enough, therefore it stands to reason that if we should err, we should err on the side of caution. Do nothing to contribute to our early demise, if we can avoid it. That's my feeling on the matter.

scfan5338
04-26-2008, 09:36 AM
Honestly, I think we should really not care about whether it is real or not because out of all this we need to get one thing. GET OFF OF SAUDI OIL NOW! Whether Global Warming is real or not, we need to get off Saudi Oil to 1) Save us money 2) Stop putting money in terrorists hands 3) Create new energy to create new jobs. I personally don't give a crap about Global Warming, but I think this whole thing will help us get off of the dependence on foreign oil.

zartan
04-26-2008, 09:37 AM
What does mankind know about the possible ramifications of global warming? Admittedly, not enough, therefore it stands to reason that if we should err, we should err on the side of caution. Do nothing to contribute to our early demise, if we can avoid it. That's my feeling on the matter.
these are my exact thoughts on the matter as well. there seems to be too much contradictory 'scientific evidence' on the subject to be able to say anything definitive about global warming. also, political biases (from both sides) make it very hard for one to extract the truth from all the mercenary science going on...

ColonelKurtz
04-26-2008, 10:23 AM
What does mankind know about the possible ramifications of global warming? Admittedly, not enough, therefore it stands to reason that if we should err, we should err on the side of caution. Do nothing to contribute to our early demise, if we can avoid it. That's my feeling on the matter.

these are my exact thoughts on the matter as well. there seems to be too much contradictory 'scientific evidence' on the subject to be able to say anything definitive about global warming. also, political biases (from both sides) make it very hard for one to extract the truth from all the mercenary science going on...

And the lemmings who swallowed the tripe seek high ground to escape atoning for their idiocy....sorry, but I ain't crying and my Ocean front property is just fine, thank ya vurry much.

All of you wackos got it coming to you, hope you're as eager to take what you've dished out for two decades! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

We know no more today than we did when all this alarmist BS began so why haven't one of the supposed experts called for our Universities to redouble their efforts in the field of Earth Sciences so that we might begin building a knowledge base?

We know more about the surface of the Moon than the Seas. Wake UP America!

zartan
04-26-2008, 10:40 AM
ouch, that would really sting if i had ever made a statement in defense of global warming anywhere at any time.

ColonelKurtz
04-26-2008, 11:24 AM
these are my exact thoughts on the matter as well. there seems to be too much contradictory 'scientific evidence' on the subject to be able to say anything definitive about global warming. also, political biases (from both sides) make it very hard for one to extract the truth from all the mercenary science going on...

ouch, that would really sting if i had ever made a statement in defense of global warming anywhere at any time.

Hmmm, use the edit feature if you wish to deny what you agreed to there dude.

zartan
04-26-2008, 11:39 AM
Hmmm, use the edit feature if you wish to deny what you agreed to there dude.
your reading comprehension skills are pretty poor, dude.

PuddingTime
04-26-2008, 02:44 PM
Global Warming is very real. There is no debate on that. Whether mankind polluting the environment is the debate....whether we are the source. Well, I'm no expert, but can ANY of you sit here and tell me that the crap we're pumping into the atmosphere is good for the environment, hell, for us? Look at the smog in L.A. Can you tell me that it's good, that we shouldn't be pushing for alternative fuels and cheaper means of conveyance other than this high priced oil crap? Regardless of whether we're the catalyst of this global warmup, we still need to make drastic changes for our own benefit.

I mean honestly...is it worth wasting all this time debating over who's right and who's wrong when anyone w/a brain not located in their rectum can tell you it's time we made changes to better future generations?

ColonelKurtz
04-26-2008, 04:13 PM
your reading comprehension skills are pretty poor, dude.

Are they? Aza is right about you....perhaps the very same scientists whom you adore for wishing the end of humanity can find a cure for your condition.

Sabanocchio
04-26-2008, 04:18 PM
Global Warming is very real. There is no debate on that. Whether mankind polluting the environment is the debate....whether we are the source. Well, I'm no expert, but can ANY of you sit here and tell me that the crap we're pumping into the atmosphere is good for the environment, hell, for us? Look at the smog in L.A. Can you tell me that it's good, that we shouldn't be pushing for alternative fuels and cheaper means of conveyance other than this high priced oil crap? Regardless of whether we're the catalyst of this global warmup, we still need to make drastic changes for our own benefit.

I mean honestly...is it worth wasting all this time debating over who's right and who's wrong when anyone w/a brain not located in their rectum can tell you it's time we made changes to better future generations? Exactly right, PT. But then....what would Aza and Zartan have to fight about?

gatorunvrsty
04-26-2008, 07:32 PM
Exactly right, PT. But then....what would Aza and Zartan have to fight about?

Plus, I have a feeling some people are just extremely concerned they won't be able to drive their penis replacements much longer... and might have to rely on the real thing.:ph34r:

gatorunvrsty
04-26-2008, 07:42 PM
these are my exact thoughts on the matter as well. there seems to be too much contradictory 'scientific evidence' on the subject to be able to say anything definitive about global warming. also, political biases (from both sides) make it very hard for one to extract the truth from all the mercenary science going on...

True story. You'll get a wide variety of answers to the same question, depending on who's doing the asking, and who's doing the answering. ISI, for example, is an ultra-conservative-leaning website; and therefore examines issues from a biased standpoint. In other words... they already have a viewpoint, and will publish their findings in a light favorable to their predefined position. Same for liberal publications. Depending on agendas, you'll get conflicting theories and statements of fact on the exact same data.:wacko:

Tator
04-28-2008, 06:19 PM
I believe in global warming, it was cold as hell just a few months ago and now I'm wearing shorts! Which reminds me, I need to pay my carbon offsets for breathing...

ColonelKurtz
04-29-2008, 06:54 AM
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