The Democratic Party, Vessle of Racial and Sexual Equality, or is it?

[Crimson Kicker8]

Something I threw together after thinking about it today at work and posted it on Myspace, wanted to share it here
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Now before I start, and in the best interest of objectiveness, I let you know I’m a registered Republican and consider myself a moderate conservative. That meaning I think liberalism has a place in our country, albeit a small one. So on to the Dems. Here we are, for the first time in our history we have a woman and a black man running for the highest office in our country, it’s a very exciting time for politics. It’s also considered common knowledge by most that the Democratic party is the usual vessel for this type of breakthrough, it’s perceived higher acceptance of minority groups is often one of it’s more influential talking points. But how much truth is there to that?

Politics is a dirty game, it has been since mankind first evolved to a state of organized government and I suspect it will always be. And when you play this game one often acknowledges that in order to win you must play dirty yourself. The Clinton administration (to include Bill, Hillary, and maybe one day Chelsea) are masters of this game, and often align themselves with those who put them in the best position to win, regardless of their moral construct. So what happens when the masters of politics (represented by a white woman) are confronted in a heated contest against a black man? You guessed it, either they themselves or those allied with them will eventually play the race card.

During campaigning for the South Carolina primary, Bill Clinton said some pretty controversial and "un-Bill Clinton-like things" in order to try and slow down Obama’s momentum. But isn’t this Bill Clinton, the first president to act as champion for the advancement of black Americans? The same Bill Clinton who was dubbed, "the first black president". So what does this mean? Well, it means that you get to see a prominent piece of the Democratic party after the veil has come off and the honeymoon has ended. In order to win the game of politics for his wife, Bill Clinton will say just about whatever it takes, even if it means revealing more about himself than he’d normally care to.

And what about Geraldine Ferraro? Her comments about Barack Obama this past week are, at the very least, disturbing. I don’t like to use the word ’racist’ very liberally because I believe every person (yes, myself included) has at one time demonstrated shameful characteristics that could be deemed racist. However, to discredit an indivdual’s qualifications by saying they are only successful because of the color of their skin or whether they are a man or woman comes pretty darn close to justifying the use of the word. And who is Geraldine Ferraro? She’s a former House Representative from New York who has openly endorsed and financed Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and a prominent member of the Democratic party. Hillary, looking to avoid political suicide, had no choice but to distance Ferraro from her campaign. Don’t get me wrong, the Republicans aren’t above this subdued racial game either. The only difference between the two parties is that the Democratic party tries to paint itself above such shamefullness, which isn’t the case at all.

And not all Democrats play this dirty game. Look at Barack Obama. He has been above such mud-slinging and misleading since he hit the campaign trail, and I respect him for that. I truly hope he doesn’t have to stoop to Clinton’s level for the sake of winning, the fact that he hasn’t should be viewed with the highest degree of admiration. As for would I vote for him? That’s a whole other blog in itself.

[Williams-Brice]

The only difference between the two parties is that the Democratic party tries to paint itself above such shamefullness, which isn’t the case at all.

One of the democrats' main goals is to tell minorities that they are being held back and that the almighty and merciful Democratic Party will pull them out of the muck and put them on a level platform with whites. Of course, that's the goal every four years. However, they really don't want minorities to ever feel as though the platform is level. As soon it's level, the democrats lose their edge with minority voters because they won't have anyone to be the savior to.

[the Prodigy]

Political machine at its best... or at its worst I guess.

[azamugg]

very good thread opening post..............Ive thought this and mentioned it to some black people in business I know to see if they were seeing the same thing.....they are

[GatorHunter]

The question is...do/will black people vote Obama simply because of his skin color? The voting results in Mississippi seem to indicate this. However, Obama is running against Hillary...one of the most hated females this planet has ever known. So which is it?

I do think the usage of the "R" word is a little drastic, though. Is saying that a politicians is getting votes because of his color a racist statement? I don't think it is. This word is used too much IMO.

[WarEagle73]

Here is a look at the real nature of Obama. He claims that he does not agree with everything his pastor says, However I have to think that if this were the case then why is Obama still a member of his church? :glare:


ABC News: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11 (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1)

[timNem]

I find it interesting how so many black politicians, preachers, etc. were 100% behind Hillary's campaign until Obama come along.

[Crimson Kicker8]

Here is a look at the real nature of Obama. He claims that he does not agree with everything his pastor says, However I have to think that if this were the case then why is Obama still a member of his church? :glare:


ABC News: Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11 (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4443788&page=1)

In all fairness, Obama can't be held accountable for what his pastor says. I do agree that he needs to better define where he stands in relation to his pastor's extreme anti-American views, because at the very least it causes a conflict of interest with him running for president. It needs to be all or nothing, either denounce the pastor's message and leave the church or don't and take responsibility for the political consequences. Either way, Obama's voting record and views are too far to the left to get him elected in the fall, regardless of his momentum, IMO.

[Crimson Kicker8]

I find it interesting how so many black politicians, preachers, etc. were 100% behind Hillary's campaign until Obama come along.

That's because the Clintons were "the first black family" in the White House. Now that some insight has been given to their true intentions, I suspect alot of black folks naturally would chose the party's alternative. Not saying that a politicians race isn't a factor, some people will vote on that token everytime.

[the Prodigy]

It has always been that way, like it or not, with prominent white families from Central Arkansas. You take a look at Clinton, or even Houston Nutt, you see that black people, in general get behind them more because they trust them more. For some reason. Just an observation.

[Williams-Brice]

All of these Obama issues will be exposed by the Republican Party if and when the time comes. After SNL poked fun at the media's coddling of Obama, the media realized it better ask some legit questions, and we all saw how uncomfortable that made him. I can't wait to see him hide his head in the sand when the republicans come after him. We'll see his true colors soon enough.

[Tator]

The Republicans do the same thing to conservatives as the Democrats do to minorities. They wax eloquent about being conservative, shrinking government, reducing spending, reducing taxes, having moral fiber, etc. Yet, they seem to fall well short of their promises. And when election time rolls back around, they'll offer up the same empty promises and the same ignorant lemmings will believe them. Rinse, lather, repeat.

[volimhtown]

The Republicans do the same thing to conservatives as the Democrats do to minorities. They wax eloquent about being conservative, shrinking government, reducing spending, reducing taxes, having moral fiber, etc. Yet, they seem to fall well short of their promises. And when election time rolls back around, they'll offer up the same empty promises and the same ignorant lemmings will believe them. Rinse, lather, repeat.

AWESOME and spot on!!
What's the saying??? "Let he with TWO free hands cast the first stone!!"

[SeattleGamecocks]

The Republicans do the same thing to conservatives as the Democrats do to minorities. They wax eloquent about being conservative, shrinking government, reducing spending, reducing taxes, having moral fiber, etc. Yet, they seem to fall well short of their promises. And when election time rolls back around, they'll offer up the same empty promises and the same ignorant lemmings will believe them. Rinse, lather, repeat.

what he said

[GatorHunter]

The Republicans do the same thing to conservatives as the Democrats do to minorities. They wax eloquent about being conservative, shrinking government, reducing spending, reducing taxes, having moral fiber, etc. Yet, they seem to fall well short of their promises. And when election time rolls back around, they'll offer up the same empty promises and the same ignorant lemmings will believe them. Rinse, lather, repeat.

Well said...but, ya gotta vote for somebody. Would you rather vote for the people that are gonna shrink the military, take your guns, take your money and give it to the people that don't want to work...or do you vote for the people that spend all your money on war, feel the need to "police" every third world country on the globe, and lie to your face.

It's all BS...and no "one" politician is going to do anything that needs to be done in this country. However, at least with "some" you know what you're getting...with "others"...you have no freakin' idea.

[Tator]

What we are offered in the current presidential election is a simple choice of whether we want our leg amputated just above or just below the knee. Either way will cause pain and regret. But I agree with you that someone has to be elected and who you vote for basically boils down to which evil you think is the lesser one.

[bigsexxxy]

The Republicans do the same thing to conservatives as the Democrats do to minorities. They wax eloquent about being conservative, shrinking government, reducing spending, reducing taxes, having moral fiber, etc. Yet, they seem to fall well short of their promises. And when election time rolls back around, they'll offer up the same empty promises and the same ignorant lemmings will believe them. Rinse, lather, repeat.

Not to mention that both parties are waffling on the illegal immigration issue, for fear of pissing off Hispanic voters in the future.

[timNem]

Not to mention that both parties are waffling on the illegal immigration issue, for fear of pissing off Hispanic voters in the future.
absolutely correct. McCain did an about-face on his border stance.

[bigsexxxy]

absolutely correct. McCain did an about-face on his border stance.

That issue bothers me more than any other one out there. Both parties have let the country down in that regard.

[timNem]

That issue bothers me more than any other one out there. Both parties have let the country down in that regard.
Thats my #1 issue too. I wished bad things on McCain several months ago but I now feel like Im having to choose between Death by Rope or the Electric Chair. Right now, as much as it pains me to say it, I think MccccccccCaaaain is the better evil. :brick:

[azamugg]

the irony is theres more excitment for this election than the last 10 but it's got goat schitt for candidates

[timNem]

the irony is theres more excitment for this election than the last 10 but it's got goat schitt for candidates
Yep, its kinda strange and scary.

[zartan]

the ineffectiveness of both political parties in my lifetime makes me glad that the balance of power switches every 8 years or so.

[Williams-Brice]

the ineffectiveness of both political parties in my lifetime makes me glad that the balance of power switches every 8 years or so.

I'm guessing you were born after the 1980's.

[zartan]

I'm guessing you were born after the 1980's.
i'm guessing you think that anyone who doesn't worship at the temple of reagan is a communist lefty pinko...

[Williams-Brice]

i'm guessing you think that anyone who doesn't worship at the temple of reagan is a communist lefty pinko...

Nope, just acknowledging that he was instrumental in tearing down the USSR. I was born in 1985, so I wasn't old enough to form my own opinion of him, but I've heard enough good things from both sides of the isle to figure he was much better than anything we've had since he left office.

[Noah.Dreams]

Now we have finally arrived at the crux of the matter.

I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils.

There's a better man out there.

Thats my #1 issue too. I wished bad things on McCain several months ago but I now feel like Im having to choose between Death by Rope or the Electric Chair. Right now, as much as it pains me to say it, I think MccccccccCaaaain is the better evil. :brick:

[the Prodigy]

I think that we should just get Obama, Hillary, McCain and Stephen Colbert in a cage match, and whoever comes out on top should be president.... my money is on the former POW....

[Williams-Brice]

I think that we should just get Obama, Hillary, McCain and Stephen Colbert in a cage match, and whoever comes out on top should be president.... my money is on the former POW....

He's over 70 and can't lift his arms over his head, but I agree with you. He could wipe the floor with either Obama or Hillary.