Who will the next Iron Bowl?

[thethird]

Thought I'd keep it simple.

[bamagt]

To early to tell really. It's always a close game but Bama has homefield so you never know.

[D^3]

Alabama breaks the streak. They've had more time to get some momentum and learn who they are as a team. Auburn next year will be playing under new offensive AND defensive coordinators, not to mention they'll be experimenting with that new spread offense.

[thethird]

To early to tell really. It's always a close game but Bama has homefield so you never know.

I agree it is early.

Side note: Bama has never beaten AU on the current "home field".

[Tider27]

Who will the next Iron Bowl? You asking who will win it? Probably Auburn if we go by recent history, but when we do win...it will be a blowout. That's how it usually happens.

[ColonelKurtz]

Thought I'd keep it simple.

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[sheluvsbama]

I am not very good at predictions! It is not a question I have thought very much about this early. I'll think about that next November, but it will be fun to consider, as it always is. :happy:

[GatorBait15]

Way to early to tell, recruiting is still going on, hell maybe julio jones could be a factor? just saying way to early! but I will pick Bama right now.

[autiger1126]

Way to early to tell, recruiting is still going on, hell maybe julio jones could be a factor? just saying way to early! but I will pick Bama right now.

Well it JJ was a factor, then why'd you pick bama anyways??? Obviously Julio ain't as much of a factor as it seems:whistle:

[GatorBait15]

That is because I think he will go there.

[sheluvsbama]

I HOPE Julio Jones will be a Tider!

[GeauxTo]

If Nick loses another Iron Bowl, his world of sh*t will get much bigger.

[bigsexxxy]

If Nick loses another Iron Bowl, his world of sh*t will get much bigger.

I wouldn't say Nick is in a "world of sh*t". Most rational Bama fans know that it's going to take time to claw our way back to the top of the heap.

[muttley1211]

beating Auburn isn't making it to the "top of the heap"

[zorak34]

I think there best chance is in 09 there new recruits will have some experience then and the old garbage should be gone.

[Tider27]

Well it JJ was a factor, then why'd you pick bama anyways??? Obviously Julio ain't as much of a factor as it seems:whistle:

Trying to say Auburn has a shot at Julio? Please tell me thats what your saying, that's hilarious. We've been sending all of our commits that Auburn is interested in to visit them the past two weekends. In those visits we've been recruiting more players to Bama, it's really pitiful how desperate Auburn is right now. About as pitiful as losing 6 in a row, but not quite. Barron and Hood visited and hung out with Harris all weekend, sounds like they had a fun time too. :D

[GeauxTo]

I wouldn't say Nick is in a "world of sh*t". Most rational Bama fans know that it's going to take time to claw our way back to the top of the heap.

Right, beating Auburn is not making it to the top of the heap. But not beating Auburn, again, will land Nick into some deep trouble, IMO. You folks absorbed the loss from ULM and another loss to The Barn this year, but that crap is not going to fly again.

[DEHIII]

As I said in a different post, I am not predicting Alabama until we get over the freaking hump. Hence it is Auburn. They have whipped our ass for 6 years straight and until we beat them, I am going to try to keep my mouth shut when it comes to predicting the Iron Bowl which is only about 10 months away.

[Nate]

right now, i would say Auburn

though Alabama should have the players on O, D, and special teams to make it a great game and possibly win

[autiger1126]

Trying to say Auburn has a shot at Julio? Please tell me thats what your saying, that's hilarious. We've been sending all of our commits that Auburn is interested in to visit them the past two weekends. In those visits we've been recruiting more players to Bama, it's really pitiful how desperate Auburn is right now. About as pitiful as losing 6 in a row, but not quite. Barron and Hood visited and hung out with Harris all weekend, sounds like they had a fun time too. :D

that's not what i was saying. he said there was so much that hasn't played out yet like julio jones and he couldn't decide. i just thought it was funny he mentioned that and picked alabama anyways,

[WDavE]

Trying to say Auburn has a shot at Julio? Please tell me thats what your saying, that's hilarious. We've been sending all of our commits that Auburn is interested in to visit them the past two weekends. In those visits we've been recruiting more players to Bama, it's really pitiful how desperate Auburn is right now. About as pitiful as losing 6 in a row, but not quite. Barron and Hood visited and hung out with Harris all weekend, sounds like they had a fun time too. :D


This is the most delusional post I have ever read. Let me see if I understand what your trying to relay here. Alabama is now sending committed players on official visits to Auburn so they can recruit for Bama?

My laughter is now coming in waves.....

A lot of REC people and your staff are pushing the envelop in the state. I hope it doesn't come back to bite you as it did in 1999.

[jthomas666]

Thought I'd keep it simple.Good plan. Play to your strengths.

[Winemonkee]

Most rational Bama fans know that it's going to take time to claw our way back to the top of the SHEEP.

Typo fixed regarding Alabama fans...

Couldn't resist a good redneck joke against 'Bama:glare:

[BAMA NATE]

As I said in a different post, I am not predicting Alabama until we get over the freaking hump. Hence it is Auburn. They have whipped our ass for 6 years straight and until we beat them, I am going to try to keep my mouth shut when it comes to predicting the Iron Bowl which is only about 10 months away.

In those 6 years none of those wins have been dominating. The AU program has already been as good as its going to get this decade. With the way recruitng is going it appears the polar opposite is on its way. I have no idea who wins in '08. I might actually give AU a slight advantage for the moment but the Tide is on its way back yet the Barners seem to be getting more and more smug and comfortable. I'd say its setting up quite nicely for Bama.

[Auburn]

it's really pitiful how desperate Auburn is right now. About as pitiful as losing 6 in a row

I have a nomination for most ridiculous comment in sports talk history. Does anyone second this nomination? If one considers what Tider27 actually just said, then it'd be hard not to.

[Auburn]

The AU program has already been as good as its going to get this decade. With the way recruitng is going it appears the polar opposite is on its way.

Rivals.com Recruiting Team Rankings
http://Auburn.rivals.com/TeamRank.asp?postype=0&sort=0&year=2007

Auburn

2004- 21st
2005- 13th
2006- 10th
2007- 7th


Alabama

2004- 15th
2005- 18th
2006- 11th
2007- 10th


I'm glad you decided to research before making that unfounded comment...you know, since the only reason Auburn has won 6 Iron Bowls in a row is because our recruiting has just been so much better than Alabama's, right?

In the end, the school with the superior coaching, gameplan, and excecution will win, not the team with the most 'stars'.

[WDavE]

In those 6 years none of those wins have been dominating. The AU program has already been as good as its going to get this decade. With the way recruitng is going it appears the polar opposite is on its way. I have no idea who wins in '08. I might actually give AU a slight advantage for the moment but the Tide is on its way back yet the Barners seem to be getting more and more smug and comfortable. I'd say its setting up quite nicely for Bama.

Speaking of smug... What if it is setting up for us all nice and packaged to boot? You have the highest paid coach in the college ranks and as of right now what your fan base thinks is the top recruiting class of all time. Two or three more defeats by us and we shall see how you and your fans handle that. What would happen next year if you come in at 7-6 again?

I would bet it would be fun in the state of Alabama if either happened......Thank goodness I live out of state now. I can't image the number of spousal abuse cases that would soon follow.

[crimsonnation713]

Speaking of smug... What if it is setting up for us all nice and packaged to boot? You have the highest paid coach in the college ranks and as of right now what your fan base thinks is the top recruiting class of all time. Two or three more defeats by us and we shall see how you and your fans handle that. What would happen next year if you come in at 7-6 again?

I would bet it would be fun in the state of Alabama if either happened......Thank goodness I live out of state now. I can't image the number of spousal abuse cases that would soon follow.

The only ones being smug are some of the barners. The Bama fans I've seen post here have done nothing more than be realistic. Who said we've had the best recruiting class ever? We're excited about having a top 5 class or better. Are we not allowed that?
It still amazes me how AU's fan base are experts on Alabama. Howz about worrying about your own team for a change and we'll worry about ours.

[timNem]

Rivals.com Recruiting Team Rankings
http://Auburn.rivals.com/TeamRank.asp?postype=0&sort=0&year=2007

Auburn

2004- 21st
2005- 13th
2006- 10th
2007- 7th


Alabama

2004- 15th
2005- 18th
2006- 11th
2007- 10th


I'm glad you decided to research before making that unfounded comment...you know, since the only reason Auburn has won 6 Iron Bowls in a row is because our recruiting has just been so much better than Alabama's, right?

In the end, the school with the superior coaching, gameplan, and excecution will win, not the team with the most 'stars'.
Those recruiting rankings are a bit deceptive. Its true that Bama was ranked with those numbers but in 2004 and 2005 the commits who made those numbers high have never qualified and the others were kicked off the team.

[Tider27]

This is the most delusional post I have ever read. Let me see if I understand what your trying to relay here. Alabama is now sending committed players on official visits to Auburn so they can recruit for Bama?

My laughter is now coming in waves.....

A lot of REC people and your staff are pushing the envelop in the state. I hope it doesn't come back to bite you as it did in 1999.

We're not sending anyone to be honest. The recruits are just making sure that the interested prospects stay interested. Let me ask you this, do you think anything good came from the visits the past two weekends? Do you think Auburn has a shot at Scott, Barron, Hood, or even Harris? Return to mediocrity is immenent and I'm not afraid to say it. I've already commented on the losses, but that doesn't mean things won't change in a hurry. :whistle:

[TigerEyes1914]

Those recruiting rankings are a bit deceptive. Its true that Bama was ranked with those numbers but in 2004 and 2005 the commits who made those numbers high have never qualified...

The same is true for AU (as our Gator friends have pointed out in the AU forum:laugh:). Even with all of the recruiting success that the Bama program has had over the years, you only lead the IB series by like 5 games. That fact should be very sobering to the UA fanbase. Auburn doesn't beat you with stars (*****) we beat you with coaching and heart.

[WAR DAMN EAGLE]

Auburn owns Bryant-Denny-Tubberville stadium.

[BAMA NATE]

Rivals.com Recruiting Team Rankings
http://Auburn.rivals.com/TeamRank.asp?postype=0&sort=0&year=2007

Auburn

2004- 21st
2005- 13th
2006- 10th
2007- 7th


Alabama

2004- 15th
2005- 18th
2006- 11th
2007- 10th


I'm glad you decided to research before making that unfounded comment...you know, since the only reason Auburn has won 6 Iron Bowls in a row is because our recruiting has just been so much better than Alabama's, right?

In the end, the school with the superior coaching, gameplan, and excecution will win, not the team with the most 'stars'.

Considering the number of players who didn't qualify, didn't pan out,...etc...those numbers are fairly deceptive. You won 6 in a row because our product on the field was suffering from the effects of probation and the incompetent coaching and recruiting done by Shula. Do you honestly believe you can reel off 6 in a row while we have a proven coach and an improving product on the field. Five more to go...and Saban has barely started.

[shk999]

Speaking of smug... What if it is setting up for us all nice and packaged to boot? You have the highest paid coach in the college ranks and as of right now what your fan base thinks is the top recruiting class of all time. Two or three more defeats by us and we shall see how you and your fans handle that. What would happen next year if you come in at 7-6 again?

I would bet it would be fun in the state of Alabama if either happened......Thank goodness I live out of state now. I can't image the number of spousal abuse cases that would soon follow.

Yep, speaking of smug. ^^^

[OldManNoPants]

We're not sending anyone to be honest. The recruits are just making sure that the interested prospects stay interested. Let me ask you this, do you think anything good came from the visits the past two weekends? Do you think Auburn has a shot at Scott, Barron, Hood, or even Harris? Return to mediocrity is immenent and I'm not afraid to say it. I've already commented on the losses, but that doesn't mean things won't change in a hurry. :whistle:

See..this is why it's getting so hard to argue with people who say things like this. Over and over and again, people make these brash homer comments. That, in and of itself, is alright; but, where the process breaks down is when there's no acceptance or acknowledgment of ever being wrong when these comments go awry. Take BamaPerry, for example. You can make all these crazy ass predictions (where to begin..:dry:), but when the end result is different you either just disappear or become completely ignorant of the fact that you have crow hanging out of your mouth! :brick:

Accountability is crucial in any respectable forum setting or discussion. If you talk the crap, just own it and eat it when it backfires on you. I can't even take crap like this seriously, because I know that if number 7 rolls around next year or another .500 season is racked up, folks like this will just disappear into the woodworks or magically become a 10-second Tom when it comes to what they've said. :thumbsdow

With that said, here's to College Football 08'!

[Gator2753]

My prediction...
UAB will knock off Troy 28-21

[WDavE]

Yep, speaking of smug. ^^^

How is is smug to just to speculate what could happen if certain events came about?

You guys continually try to have it both ways.
1. Almost everyday, I hear from Bama fans talk about how many times we have been on probation.

2. The two minutes later, I hear the only reason we're up right now is because you were on probation.



Pick one excuse! You can't have them both

One more note: Didn't Kent go on probation the same time you did? For the same basic offense? You just happened to be the high bidder.

Being honest which program at this date is further along?:brick:

[crimsonnation713]

yeah...whatever U say....:laugh:

[shk999]

How is is smug to just to speculate what could happen if certain events came about?

You guys continually try to have it both ways.
1. Almost everyday, I hear from Bama fans talk about how many times we have been on probation.

2. The two minutes later, I hear the only reason we're up right now is because you were on probation.



Pick one excuse! You can't have them both

One more note: Didn't Kent go on probation the same time you did? For the same basic offense? You just happened to be the high bidder.

Being honest which program at this date is further along?:brick:


The king of generalizations. "You guys", "Bama fans", whatever you say Dave. You dont hear me saying AU is up because Bama was on probation, much less "everyday". I will say this, Bama was down because of probation but im sure stating facts is just making excuses, right? I dont see what any of this has to do with the smug attitudes "you guys" walk around with. We went 7-6, lost to ULM but yet "you guys" think you are at the top of the hill because you beat us, wow, im impressed. Nevermind USF, that doesnt matter right. Tell us again how they were actually good. You act like barners are any different, what if AU goes .500 next year and loses to Bama, time for Jetgate II? As for your spousal abuse comment, classy.

The difference in you and I, you are perfectly happy with 9 wins as long as one of them is Bama. 9 wins to me is a losing season, regardless of who we beat. I would be happy with 9 wins next year but thats not the goal we set though, unlike "you guys". You strive for State Championships, we strive for National Championships but thats understandable, they say you dont miss what you never had. I know what its like to watch my team win a National Championship, can you say the same? Nope. Enjoy your 6 in a row and your 9 win seasons because it wont get any better for "you guys".

[Tider27]

See..this is why it's getting so hard to argue with people who say things like this. Over and over and again, people make these brash homer comments. That, in and of itself, is alright; but, where the process breaks down is when there's no acceptance or acknowledgment of ever being wrong when these comments go awry. Take BamaPerry, for example. You can make all these crazy ass predictions (where to begin..:dry:), but when the end result is different you either just disappear or become completely ignorant of the fact that you have crow hanging out of your mouth! :brick:

Accountability is crucial in any respectable forum setting or discussion. If you talk the crap, just own it and eat it when it backfires on you. I can't even take crap like this seriously, because I know that if number 7 rolls around next year or another .500 season is racked up, folks like this will just disappear into the woodworks or magically become a 10-second Tom when it comes to what they've said. :thumbsdow

With that said, here's to College Football 08'!

I know it sounds completely homer right now, but I like what the future looks like. If you ask any Alabama fan he will say the same. Honestly I don't give a damn if I sound like a homer at this point. You will just have to wait and see, and thats the only thing I can do anyway. :lol:

[Sabanocchio]

The king of generalizations. "You guys", "Bama fans", whatever you say Dave. You dont hear me saying AU is up because Bama was on probation, much less "everyday". I will say this, Bama was down because of probation but im sure stating facts is just making excuses, right? I dont see what any of this has to do with the smug attitudes "you guys" walk around with. We went 7-5, lost to ULM but yet "you guys" think you are at the top of the hill because you beat us, wow, im impressed. Nevermind USF, that doesnt matter right. Tell us again how they were actually good. You act like barners are any different, what if AU goes .500 next year and loses to Bama, time for Jetgate II? As for your spousal abuse comment, classy.

The difference in you and I, you are perfectly happy with 9 wins as long as one of them is Bama. 9 wins to me is a losing season, regardless of who we beat. I would be happy with 9 wins next year but thats not the goal we set though, unlike "you guys". You strive for State Championships, we strive for National Championships but thats understandable, they say you dont miss what you never had. I know what its like to watch my team win a National Championship, can you say the same? Nope. Enjoy your 6 in a row and your 9 win seasons because it wont get any better for "you guys".

I'm sorry bro, but USF is not the same as ULM. You can't even try to spin it that way. Auburn had their struggles. But overall, they had a superior season to Bama's.

[sully00]

Hopefully Alabama

[JerryBeeds]

Most likely Auburn.

[WarEagle73]

Do you think Auburn has a shot at Scott, Barron, Hood, or even Harris? Return to mediocrity is immenent and I'm not afraid to say it. I've already commented on the losses, but that doesn't mean things won't change in a hurry. :whistle:


I'm not going to paint the Bama fans with a broad brush here because I know not all make ludicrous statements such as these. But I will say it is stupid comments such as this from bammers that make not only Auburn fans but most college football fans as a whole look at a good deal of the bama fans as being out of touch with reality.

It is the arrogance that they display. It is the way they go about acting like they are the best thing in world even though their former glory has long faded. I hate to say this but in the last quarter century they have been caught and even surpassed by several SEC programs like Auburn, LSU, UT, & Florida, and Georgia. And this trend towards the middle of the pack of the SEC didn't just start with Shula or the last probation. The truth is that ever since the Bear retired Bama has been a good team at times, a quite terrible team at others. They are a great team every once in a wile but most of the time they are just another middle of the pack SEC team. That is not a flame, that is not an empty insult I'm hurdling, that is a fact that is backed up by the numbers. If you don't like it that's not my problem. Let the numbers speak for themselves.

Records for the last 25 years

Bama - Total of 210 games won since 1982 (Avg 8.4 wins per year), 3 conference championships, 1 NC, 1 undefeated season, (10-16 in Iron Bowl)

AU - Total of 223 games won since 1982 (Avg 8.92 wins per year) 5 Conference championships, 0 NC, 2 undefeated seasons, (16-10 in Iron Bowl)

LSU - Total of 195 games won since 1982 (Avg. 7.8 games per year) 5 Conference championships, 2 NC, 0 undefeated seasons

UF - Total of 237 games won since 1982 (Avg 9.48 games per year) 7 Conference championships, 2 NC, 0 undefeated seasons

UT - Total of 233 games won since 1982(9.32 games per year) 5 Conference championships, 1 NC, 1 undefeated season

UGA - Total of 219 games won since 1982 (8.76 games per year) 3 Conference championships, 0 NC, 0 undefeated seasons


It is this unwarranted arrogance that truly fuels the hatred that Auburn fans have for Bama. Wile I don't hate Bama like many of my Auburn bothers and sisters, I will admit that when I see comments like the one from tider27 above my will is sorely tested.

[shk999]

I'm sorry bro, but USF is not the same as ULM. You can't even try to spin it that way. Auburn had their struggles. But overall, they had a superior season to Bama's.

Nobody's arguing that but lots of people had superior seasons to Bama. Still nothing to be proud of.

[sheluvsbama]

Nobody's arguing that but lots of people had superior seasons to Bama. Still nothing to be proud of.

It just goes to show how important it is to them. We should be flattered, not angry.:happy: We would feel the same way they do, if we beat Southern Cal 6 years in a row.:laugh:

[WarEagle73]

It just goes to show how important it is to them. We should be flattered, not angry.:happy: We would feel the same way they do, if we beat Southern Cal 6 years in a row.:laugh:




Sorry to burst your bubble but wile beating Bama 6 years in a row is quite nice, beating So Cal 6 time in a row would be a much bigger feather in anyone's hat. :mellow:

[sheluvsbama]

Sorry to burst your bubble but wile beating Bama 6 years in a row is quite nice, beating So Cal 6 time in a row would be a much bigger feather in anyone's hat. :mellow:

Agreed!:happy: That's what I mean! beating SC is REALLY something to brag about!

[OldManNoPants]

I know it sounds completely homer right now, but I like what the future looks like. If you ask any Alabama fan he will say the same. Honestly I don't give a damn if I sound like a homer at this point. You will just have to wait and see, and thats the only thing I can do anyway. :lol:

Like I said, I don't mind homer comments. It's the win-win mentality that some fools here take with their predictions that bothers me. By "win-win" I mean that there's no consequence to making asinine comments and "bold" predictions. If Auburn ends up on a downward spiral, it'll be "All hail Tider27!". Unfortunately, when that comment likely busts in the future, it'll be up to whatever loser to decides to scan months of posts to find the posts that you won't own up to.

[crimsonnation713]

Like I said, I don't mind homer comments. It's the win-win mentality that some fools here take with their predictions that bothers me. By "win-win" I mean that there's no consequence to making asinine comments and "bold" predictions. If Auburn ends up on a downward spiral, it'll be "All hail Tider27!". Unfortunately, when that comment likely busts in the future, it'll be up to whatever loser to decides to scan months of posts to find the posts that you won't own up to.

And its not just Bama fans that do it. Thats my point. If you're going to police Bama fans , do the same with your own and call them out also when they make "asinine" comments. And as far as being smug, neither team has a right to be.

[Tider27]

Like I said, I don't mind homer comments. It's the win-win mentality that some fools here take with their predictions that bothers me. By "win-win" I mean that there's no consequence to making asinine comments and "bold" predictions. If Auburn ends up on a downward spiral, it'll be "All hail Tider27!". Unfortunately, when that comment likely busts in the future, it'll be up to whatever loser to decides to scan months of posts to find the posts that you won't own up to.

Fair enough, I'll keep my wide range of future predictions close to heart. But if things start to change, I will try to be nice about it. :lol: