The SEC's All-Time Best Athletes

[TigerEyes1914]

al.com: Everything Alabama (http://www.al.com/sec/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1197796761297050.xml&coll=2&thispage=1)

1. BO JACKSON, Auburn, 1982-85, football/baseball/track Did you hear the one about the time he threw a football and hit the Superdome roof? Hit a baseball and smashed a light tower? Ran for more than 100 yards in an Iron Bowl with two broken ribs? They're all true. It's not the records he set and trophies he won, such as the Heisman, that set him apart. It's the jaws he caused to drop in one game after another, in one sport after another.

2. HERSCHEL WALKER, Georgia, 1980-82, football He burst on the scene as a freshman, planting Tennessee's Bill Bates in the end zone for a game-winning touchdown in the 1980 opener. Three seasons later, Walker departed after his junior season with trophies for a national title and the 1982 Heisman Trophy. A three-time consensus All-American and SEC MVP as voted by coaches, Walker remains the SEC's top career rusher 25 years later.

3. PETE MARAVICH, LSU, 1968-70, basketball Greatest individual basketball player in SEC history. Set 11 NCAA and 34 SEC records. Still holds the NCAA scoring record at 44.2 points a game for his career despite playing before the 3-point line. Went behind the back and through the legs with ease long before it became routine. Dribbling, passing or shooting, he handled the ball better than anyone, before or since.

4. BILLY CANNON, LSU, 1957-59, football The Baton Rouge native will forever be remembered for his Halloween night run in 1959. With top-ranked LSU trailing No.3 Ole Miss 3-0, Cannon took a punt and weaved 89 yards, breaking seven tackles, to preserve the ranking. LSU won its first national title at the end of the season and Cannon capped his career with the Heisman Trophy. His No.20 jersey remains the only one retired in LSU history.

5. ARCHIE MANNING, Ole Miss, 1968-70, football He remains an icon in Oxford, where the speed limit (18) matches his jersey number. An All-American as a junior and senior, the Drew, Miss., native was a two-time Heisman finalist. In 1969, before a national television audience, Manning helped spread the gospel of SEC football in the legendary 33-32 shootout loss to Alabama's Scott Hunter, live and in color from Legion Field.

6. SHAQUILLE O'NEAL, LSU, 1990-92, basketball O'Neal swatted away an NCAA-record 17 Mississippi State shots in a 1990 game. A two-time All-American and SEC Player of the Year, O'Neal headed for the NBA after his junior season, taking the 1991 Wooden Award with him.

7. CHAMIQUE HOLDSCLAW, Tennessee, 1995-99, basketball Maybe the best women's basketball player ever in the best women's basketball league. Led the Lady Vols to three straight national championships. UT's leading career scorer and rebounder, male or female. SEC's leading career scorer and rebounder among women. First female college athlete to win the Sullivan Award as the nation's best amateur athlete.

8. BERNARD KING, Tennessee, 1975-77, basketball Half of the Ernie and Bernie Show, King came out of Brooklyn to turn Ray Mears' Volunteers into a national powerhouse. For three straight seasons, King was an All-American - and a lay prophet. After getting pelted by debris while leaving the court after a one-point Kentucky victory his junior season, King vowed he'd never lose to the Wildcats again. He closed his college career with three straight victories against the archrival.

9. CHARLEY TRIPPI, Georgia, 1941-43,'45-46, football Replaced injured Heisman winner Frank Sinkwich and led Georgia to a Rose Bowl victory. Despite a college career interrupted by service in World War II, the running and throwing halfback earned induction into the College Football Hall of Fame. He ranked No. 20 on ESPN's 2007 list of the top 25 players in college football history.

10. HARVEY GLANCE, Auburn, 1975-78, track The Phenix City flash set two world records as an Auburn sprinter, won gold as anchor on the 400-yard relay team in the 1976 Olympics and still holds SEC records in the 220-yard dash and 400-yard relay. Glance won NCAA titles in the 60-yard dash and 100- and 200-meter sprints and was named captain of Team USA's track and field team in 1980, but was denied another Olympic trip because of the U.S. boycott of the 1980 Summer Games in Moscow.

11. TRACY CAULKINS, Florida, 1982-84, swimming Won 16 NCAA championships - four relay, 12 individual - more than any swimmer in NCAA Division I history. Led Florida to the 1982 NCAA team title. In 2006, NCAA named her Division I's most outstanding swimmer of the previous 25 years. While at Florida, she won three gold medals in the 1984 Summer Olympics.

12. DON KESSINGER, Ole Miss, 1961-64, baseball/basketball The long and lean native of Forrest City, Ark., headed to Oxford for college and became a two-sport star. The three-time All-SEC selection in both basketball and baseball capped his college career by earning All-American honors on the hardwood and the baseball diamond as a senior.

[TigerEyes1914]

13. EMMITT SMITH, Florida, 1987-89, football Not the biggest or fastest tailback the SEC's ever seen, but may have had the best vision and balance. Still owns the two top rushing seasons in school history. No one who saw him tango and Foxtrot for 224 yards against Alabama at Legion Field as a freshman was surprised he would later win "Dancing with the Stars."

14. RICHMOND FLOWERS, Tennessee, 1966-68, football/track The Montgomery native was the son of Alabama's progressive but unpopular attorney general, Richmond Flowers Sr. At Tennessee, the younger Flowers was an All-American wingback for Doug Dickey's football Vols as a junior before moving to tailback as a senior. He was even better in track, missing the world record by a tenth of a second in 1968 while beating future gold medal winner Willie Davenport in the 120 high hurdles. A torn hamstring cost him a shot at Olympic gold and the world record in Mexico City.

15. ROWDY GAINES, Auburn, 1978-81, swimming He was a five-time NCAA individual champion and held 11 world records before he graduated from Auburn. He earned 22 All-America honors, which is tied for the most of any Auburn swimmer. He missed the 1980 Olympics, while at Auburn, because of the U.S. boycott of the Moscow Games.

16. REGGIE WHITE, Tennessee, 1980-83, football The Chattanooga native was nicknamed the Minister of Defense as a Vols defensive lineman. White finished his collegiate career in 1983 as a consensus All-American and Lombardi Award finalist, leaving after his junior season for the USFL.

17. DARREN McFADDEN, Arkansas, 2005-present, football The two-time Heisman bridesmaid is probably one of the three greatest running backs in SEC history. McFadden's versatility - he was also utilized as a receiver and shotgun quarterback - gave Houston Nutt's one-dimensional offense extra layers. He's the only active collegian on this Top 25 list.

18. DOUG ATKINS, Tennessee, 1950-52, football/track/basketball The 6-foot-8 native of Humboldt, Tenn., signed with the Vols to play basketball, but he excelled as an All-American tackle on the football team. Atkins had a combination of size, speed and agility, making him an unparalleled pass rusher in football and a standout high jumper in track. He lettered one year in basketball.

19. STEVE SPURRIER, Florida, 1964-66, football Before he tossed his first visor as a coach, Spurrier tossed darts against SEC rivals as the Gators' 1966 Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback. The three-time All-SEC performer broke every school passing record and was named Sugar Bowl MVP in a losing effort. He also enhanced his legend by kicking a game-winning field goal against Auburn.

20. DAVID PALMER, Alabama, 1991-93, football The undersized Birmingham native made an instant impact at Alabama and starred for three seasons as a kick returner, wide receiver and emergency quarterback. Palmer became the first Tide receiver to gain 1,000 receiving yards in a season as a junior in 1993, earning consensus All-American honors. He also starred on Alabama's 1992 national championship team.

21. KEN STABLER, Alabama, 1965-67, football/baseball Alabama went 28-3-2 with Stabler as a southpaw quarterback, winning the 1965 national title and going undefeated in 1966. His senior season was somewhat of a disappointment, as Bear Bryant's Crimson Tide finished an uncharacteristic 8-2-1, but Stabler concluded the regular season by slogging 47 yards in the mud to secure an Iron Bowl victory at Legion Field. He lettered in baseball in 1966.

22. JAKE GIBBS, Ole Miss, 1959-61, football/baseball Before Archie there was Gibbs, a Grenada, Miss., native who led Ole Miss to claims of a national football title as an All-American quarterback in 1959 and'60. As good as he was in football, he may have been better in baseball. Gibbs played third base for Ole Miss before leaving school to play for the New York Yankees as a bonus baby.

23. MONICA ABBOTT, Tennessee, 2004-07, softball The hard-throwing Californian, known for her height and left-handed delivery, made the Lady Vols a College World Series fixture. A three-time All-American, she concluded her college stay as the SEC Female Athlete of the Year and the USA Softball Collegiate Player of the Year.

24. WILL CLARK, Mississippi State, 1983-85, baseball Clark left New Orleans for Starkville, turning Ron Polk's baseball team into a national juggernaut. Teaming with fellow future major leaguer Rafael Palmeiro, Clark hit .391 for his career and slugged 61 home runs in only 175 college games.

25. TERESA EDWARDS, Georgia, 1982-86, basketball Women's basketball went to a different gear when Edwards broke out her game at Georgia. The 5-foot-11 slasher led the Bulldogs to three SEC titles, two Final Fours and was named an All-American twice. As a senior, she won the Naismith Award, given to the premier player in the land. As a collegian, she also played in the first of a record five Olympics for Team USA and had her jersey number retired after graduating.

[TigerEyes1914]

Yea its long but it's snowing/raining outside and Im bored!:laugh:

HOW WE PICKED THIS LIST
The Birmingham News asked 13 knowledgeable individuals to pick and rank their own lists. From those, The News calculated a composite list. The News made changes where the views of its sports staff differed greatly from the composite list. Only athletes' accomplishments during college were considered. The panelists: Tony Barnhart, Atlanta Journal-Constitution; Joe Biddle, The Tennessean; Frank Broyles, Arkansas athletics director and former football coach; Joe Dean Jr., Birmingham-Southern College athletics director and former Mississippi State basketball player and SEC assistant coach; Pat Dooley, The Gainesville Sun; Bud Ford and Haywood Harris, Tennessee assistant athletics directors for media relations (joint vote); Derek Horne, Ole Miss associate athletics director; David Housel, former Auburn athletics director; Kent Lowe, assistant media relations directors at LSU; C.M. Newton, former Kentucky athletics director and basketball coach at Alabama and Vanderbilt; Tom Price, former South Carolina media relations director and historian; and Wimp Sanderson, former Alabama basketball coach

[The Ramp]

no 4 time SEC and 2 time all american semoine augustus?

no shaq either?

[TigerEyes1914]

Shaq is #6

[Tennessee Ted]

Shaq is #6. I think Candace Parker will be on this list soon.

[The Ramp]

Shaq is #6. I think Candace Parker will be on this list soon.

yeah...my bad

i thought about parker but she's still setting records right now

[PuddingTime]

No Jamal Mashburn, Rex Chapman, Dan Issel? what a crock. 3 of the greatest college basketball players ever. The greatest basketball player in UK history not on such a list makes it automatically flawed. Issell consistently scored 30-40 a game, a la Maravich. He would've left Shaq looking at his backside.

[BamaFanNKy]

I have no problem them leaving Issel and Mashburn off if this is most ATHLETIC. Not best to play their sport. What would be worse is to leave off Lee Roy Jordan. Lee Roy Jordan has the Orange Bowl Record of 30 Tackles in one game when they beat Oklahoma 17-0.

[sheluvsbama]

There are really too many to name. There have been many exceptional players, so many. I doubt we could ever name them all without forgetting somebody really deserving.

[BamaFanNKy]

Heck Willie Gault was left out. Gold Medel winner who played in the NFL.

[D^3]

Wow, no surprise that a rag called "everything Alabama" would put Bo Jackson over Herschel Walker :dry:

[BamaFanNKy]

Wow, no surprise that a rag called "everything Alabama" would put Bo Jackson over Herschel Walker :dry:You mean Rag(s). It's a website of multiple state papers. I would say Bo over Herschel for best ATHLETE is not a stretch. Granted Walker almost made the U.S. Olympic team and did Tae Kwon Do..... But Bo's Baseball skills gets more press. He was more all around. Walker may be the best RB.... but athlete you have to think Bo wins that. A Pro Bowl NFL, All Star Baseball and Heisman winner is amazing.

[D^3]

BS, Herschel Walker had multiple personalities, so he was at least 3 times the person that Bo Jackson was.

[Auburn]

Wow, no surprise that a rag called "everything Alabama" would put Bo Jackson over Herschel Walker :dry:

Bo Jackson- Football/Baseball/Track

Herschel Walker- Football

^That's why. It's the truth and you know it. This isn't an argument about who was the better running back. Bo was the better athlete.

Also, take note of the panel of voters. I see guys from Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Louisiana, South Carolina, and Kentucky.

If you're going to bring an argument to the table, at least check to make sure it's valid. Otherwise, you're just spewing unfounded BS.

[D^3]

Bo Jackson- Football/Baseball/Track

Herschel Walker- Football



Walker - Football/Track/Olympian/Tae Kwon Do (Sixth degree black belt)

"Walker was an extremely talented all-around athlete; he has a sixth-degree black belt in tae kwon do and he nearly made the Olympic team in the sprint relay. He ran the 100 meters in 10.22, the 100 yards in 9.3. He competed in the 1992 Winter Olympics in two-man bobsled, finishing seventh.[9] He also won back-to-back American Superstars competitions in 1987 and 1988. Walker stated in a phone interview on The Jim Rome Show on November 20, 2006 that he still performs 2,500 situps and 1,500 pushups every morning. He has been going through this same routine every morning since high school."


He did more than play football. :thumpsup:

[BamaFanNKy]

BS, Herschel Walker had multiple personalities, so he was at least 3 times the person that Bo Jackson was.

He had Multiple Personalities? Is he schizophrenic? Tae Kwon Do is not a sport with many viewers.

Then almost making the U.S. Team is not as big as being and All Star in the top of the professional leagues of two sports. I remember watching Both Walker and Jackson in college. Did you? Tell me your favorite Walker game.

[D^3]

He had Multiple Personalities? Is he schizophrenic? Tae Kwon Do is not a sport with many viewers.

Then almost making the U.S. Team is not as big as being and All Star in the top of the professional leagues of two sports. I remember watching Both Walker and Jackson in college. Did you? Tell me your favorite Walker game.



Where the hell have you been? For somebody who's supposed to be so "connected" to the sports world, you must be the last person on this forum to find out that Walker is telling in his new book that he suffered from a multiple personality disorder. Way to stay on top of things. :thumpsup:

Is seeing Bo Jackson play supposed to make you some sort of badass? Wow, thats awesome man. My favorite Walker game was from his freshman year in which all UGA fans remember by the legendary Munson call "my GOD he's RUNNING OVER people!!" but that doesn't matter because it has zero relevance to the subject of this thread.

FYI Bo Jackson was one of my biggest sports idols as a kid, so don't pull any "homer" arguments on me. In fact, just don't bother arguing with me at all... you will lose and I don't have time tonight to make you look like a tool.

[TigerEyes1914]

As a GA native, I grew up idolizing Herschel! He was bigger than life! 3D do you remember the time he saved a woman from a burning car by ripping the door off?? At least that's the way my childhood memory recalls it! I knew very little about Bo until coming to AU. I think this list was compiled based on the 'WOW' factor! I believe that Bo and Herschel could be switched without any drop off in greatness. But I have to admit, I have seen more 'WOW' footage and feats from Bo overall! Anyone remember that signature that Blaaaake had of Bo playing baseball and running up that wall? The man took 3 steps on the wall! 3! WOW!

[D^3]

As a GA native, I grew up idolizing Herschel! He was bigger than life! 3D do you remember the time he saved a woman from a burning car by ripping the door off?? At least that's the way my childhood memory recalls it! I knew very little about Bo until coming to AU. I think this list was compiled based on the 'WOW' factor! I believe that Bo and Herschel could be switched without any drop off in greatness. But I have to admit, I have seen more 'WOW' footage and feats from Bo overall! Anyone remember that signature that Blaaaake had of Bo playing baseball and running up that wall? The man took 3 steps on the wall! 3! WOW!



Don't forget about the time that Herschel saved that Grey whale that was beached on Jekyll Isle by single-handedly dragging it back into the sea.

[OleMissPike]

You mean Rag(s). It's a website of multiple state papers. I would say Bo over Herschel for best ATHLETE is not a stretch. Granted Walker almost made the U.S. Olympic team and did Tae Kwon Do..... But Bo's Baseball skills gets more press. He was more all around. Walker may be the best RB.... but athlete you have to think Bo wins that. A Pro Bowl NFL, All Star Baseball and Heisman winner is amazing.

You and I actually agree on something, maybe I'll start reading your posts again:ph34r:

[OleMissPike]

BS, Herschel Walker had multiple personalities, so he was at least 3 times the person that Bo Jackson was.

nearly shi# my pants on that one

[BamaFanNKy]

Sorry Walker stopped being relevant to sports in the early 90's so I missed the book. His book is filed in the "Who Gives a S***" section of Barnes and Noble. You really schooled me. Bo at least made the sports century top 100 list. Walker did not. Walker was great for about 5 years between his college and pro carrers. After that nothing.

I'm glad your argument goes back to name calling again. Shows you can't be a grown up. Another way of you showing your "Christianity" through putting people down? But, like you said your acting like your in the Marines so I will leave you alone.

[dcbl]

You mean Rag(s). It's a website of multiple state papers. I would say Bo over Herschel for best ATHLETE is not a stretch. Granted Walker almost made the U.S. Olympic team and did Tae Kwon Do..... But Bo's Baseball skills gets more press. He was more all around. Walker may be the best RB.... but athlete you have to think Bo wins that. A Pro Bowl NFL, All Star Baseball and Heisman winner is amazing.

no, it ain't multi state papers - al.com is the Bham; H'ville & Mobile rags.

Bo over Herschel is to be expected from the AL papers. In all fairness, Bo was more of a force than Herschel in college athletics - hell he made pro rosters in 2 sports...

But Herschel was on the Olympic Bobsledding team (or was that for World Cup?) Anyone else remember that?

That article came out a while back in the Bham news - I remember reading it. Seems like it was months ago...

[BamaFanNKy]

hahaha..... I meant Multiple Alabama (not just one paper in Alabama. State(S) would mean more than Alabama) papers. But again, Bobsledding and Track is not helping you win battles against a guy who was all pro in 2 sports.

[dcbl]

As a GA native, I grew up idolizing Herschel! He was bigger than life! 3D do you remember the time he saved a woman from a burning car by ripping the door off?? At least that's the way my childhood memory recalls it! I knew very little about Bo until coming to AU. I think this list was compiled based on the 'WOW' factor! I believe that Bo and Herschel could be switched without any drop off in greatness. But I have to admit, I have seen more 'WOW' footage and feats from Bo overall! Anyone remember that signature that Blaaaake had of Bo playing baseball and running up that wall? The man took 3 steps on the wall! 3! WOW!

I remember that - they called him 'Superman' in the AJC

and I replied to Bamafan before I saw DDD plug the bobsled thing...

[BamaFanNKy]

This really is a dumb list..... the most "Athletic" person could also mean someone who wasn't even the best at their sport. I understand the love of Bo and Walker. I am not an Auburn fan but ESPN's page 2 says it best:
An MLB and NFL all-star -- are you kidding? Could climb tall walls and summit with spectacular catches and could win the Heisman at his "hobby" sport.

To be more precise: in eight major-league seasons, Bo hit .250 with 141 HRs and 415 RBI, and was so good that he returned after surgery, and playing with a prosthetic hip, hit 29 homers in his final two seasons. In four part-time NFL seasons with the Raiders, he played only 38 games but ran for 2,782 yards, an average of 5.4 yards per carry.


Bo's best baseball season came in 1989, when he hit .256 with 32 homers, 105 RBI and 26 stolen bases. He was named MVP of the All-Star game, and five months later, after he rushed for 950 yards in just 11 games for the Raiders, was named to the Pro Bowl team.

[D^3]

Sorry Walker stopped being relevant to sports in the early 90's so I missed the book. His book is filed in the "Who Gives a S***" section of Barnes and Noble. You really schooled me. Bo at least made the sports century top 100 list. Walker did not. Walker was great for about 5 years between his college and pro carrers. After that nothing.

I'm glad your argument goes back to name calling again. Shows you can't be a grown up. Another way of you showing your "Christianity" through putting people down? But, like you said your acting like your in the Marines so I will leave you alone.


You giving advice on how to be a grown up is like Slobodan Milosevic giving advice on how to be racially tolerant. Why don't you just go back to playing World of Warcraft and dreaming that you are an important person.

[zorak34]

You know this is freakin crazy both RB are the best in the SEC history I don't care is the ranking was switch. Quite your bitchin' because is just a damn opinion poll be glad he isn't ranked number 3. This isn't a country unanimous poll. I believe Bo Jackson should be over Herschal! I like bruising backs the best and Bo is the best Bruising back!

[D^3]

You know this is freakin crazy both RB are the best in the SEC history I don't care is the ranking was switch. Quite your bitchin' because is just a damn opinion poll be glad he isn't ranked number 3. This isn't a country unanimous poll. I believe Bo Jackson should be over Herschal! I like bruising backs the best and Bo is the best Bruising back!


If you go back and look (and nobody arguing with me has really done this) I've been egging this on with pretty comical responses. "Multiple personalities" and "saving grey whales." Of course Bamafannky can't help himself, he doesn't read well so he just skips it all and goes straight to stirring up shit.

[zorak34]

If you go back and look (and nobody arguing with me has really done this) I've been egging this on with pretty comical responses. "Multiple personalities" and "saving grey whales." Of course Bamafannky can't help himself, he doesn't read well so he just skips it all and goes straight to stirring up shit.

LOL! That's hillarious I especcially like the saving the grey whales comment! Rep points for you!

[BamaFanNKy]

You giving advice on how to be a grown up is like Slobodan Milosevic giving advice on how to be racially tolerant. Why don't you just go back to playing World of Warcraft and dreaming that you are an important person.
But like Slobodan you claim to be a Christian but drop bombs in every argument with people who differ from you. Again.... what the hell is World of Warcraft? You know, I actually have been in the military.... so I don't play military games. That's the closest you've ever been.

[D^3]

But like Slobodan you claim to be a Christian but drop bombs in every argument with people who differ from you. Again.... what the hell is World of Warcraft? You know, I actually have been in the military.... so I don't play military games. That's the closest you've ever been.


You know, I've filled up quite a few gas tanks in my day as well, so I've probably got about as much military experience as you do in your 2 year stint in Kansas. Or did they let you organize the stock room?


By the way, don't try and hold the Christian thing above my head... I have no reservations about telling you to F*** off. You're not going to make me feel guilty, so don't bother trying.

[BamaFanNKy]

Excuse me..... Are you making fun of my service in the Air Force. When you were whacking off in Junior High I was serving my country. I was an officer and it takes more than 2 years to get where I was and I never was in Kansas. I won't go any further than that with you. Your in it for glory not for honor and love of country.

So learn to respect military people and stop putting them down for serving their country. Just because it wasn't in war time or on the front lines doesn't mean it's not honorable. Everyone has their place and should be honored for their service.

[D^3]

Excuse me..... Are you making fun of my service in the Air Force. When you were whacking off in Junior High I was serving my country. I was an officer and it takes more than 2 years to get where I was and I never was in Kansas. I won't go any further than that with you. Your in it for glory not for honor and love of country.




:rolling2: :lolup:

Damn you're so easy to toy with. You also lie more than Bill Clinton during a congressional hearing. Eventually when you lie as often as you do, they catch up to you, and don't think I didn't take note that you stated before that you served only TWO years. You are a fraud.

[BamaFanNKy]

You are trying to get out of a comment where you are calling soldiers basically gas station employees. I hope they show you manners when you finally shed one ounce of sweat or blood for this country. Right now, you're carrying the banner of military with no work for it. Meanwhile degraded our soldiers by downgrading their service. Congrats..... you are officially a phony patriot.

I don't lie about my service. You'll learn that if you ever were part of it.

[D^3]

You are trying to get out of a comment where you are calling soldiers basically gas station employees. I hope they show you manners when you finally shed one ounce of sweat or blood for this country. Right now, you're carrying the banner of military with no work for it. Meanwhile degraded our soldiers by downgrading their service. Congrats..... you are officially a phony patriot.

I don't lie about my service. You'll learn that if you ever were part of it.



Dude, you lie almost every time you post. Your whole persona that you've cooked up is a fraud. Nobody believes anything that you post about yourself... its all a truck-load of BS.

[D^3]

*awaiting hissy fit response* :whistle:

[BamaFanNKy]

So people see me as a liar.

Great. But at least I don't claim to be a Christian and claim to support the military and then turn around a s*** on those principles every chance I get.

You've proven to be a troll that looks only to pick fights with those who disagree. obvious by the post above. When you start putting down people like me for my thoughts I am fine. But to put down me and those who served our country in "peace time" you prove how much respect you really have for those who fought for your rights. Your father either left you as a child or he is a sad sack of s*** that didn't teach his son respect.

[D^3]

So people see me as a liar.

Great. But at least I don't claim to be a Christian and claim to support the military and then turn around a s*** on those principles every chance I get.

You've proven to be a troll that looks only to pick fights with those who disagree. obvious by the post above. When you start putting down people like me for my thoughts I am fine. But to put down me and those who served our country in "peace time" you prove how much respect you really have for those who fought for your rights. Your father either left you as a child or he is a sad sack of s*** that didn't teach his son respect.



:lol: How does no respect for you equate to no respect for military? Are you military? No, you're just a fat f*** with self-esteem issues.

You realize that I was voted 3rd best looking poster on here, and you didn't make the list, so I've already won, don't you? This whole thing is pointless.

Point.... set.... match. D^3 out. There's a good football game on.