View Full Version : I don't buy the UGA hype
VolMike98
01-17-2008, 11:01 PM
do I think they will be solid yes, top 10 probably, but the hype they are getting is out of hand, thoughts agreements questions? I see UGA getting 3-4 losses next year partially due to their team and partially to their ridiculous schedule thats all
GatorBait15
01-17-2008, 11:14 PM
Imo they are a great team, but they play in the SEC with a tough a** schedule so they will lose a few games.
do I think they will be solid yes, top 10 probably, but the hype they are getting is out of hand, thoughts agreements questions? I see UGA getting 3-4 losses next year partially due to their team and partially to their ridiculous schedule thats all
3-4 losses? Wait wait wait.... so we were 11-2 this PAST year, next year we retain more talent than anybody in the conference, but you have us losing 2 more games? Hmmmmm. I think you're just bitter that you beat us and we still ended up #2 in the nation when it was all said and done.
OneBigDawg
01-18-2008, 12:43 AM
I think Georgia will be as good as anyone in the country this coming football season. The sechedule will probably be one of the toughest of anyone in the country though. :brick: If we can get through that schedule without more than one loss and play and win the SEC Championship game then we damn sure should be playing for the NC. Will Georgia do that? Who knows at this point... I still see us having a better year than the Vols - as usual. :thumpsup: :happy:
I'm not knocking your opinion, VolMike98. It just sounds a little like sour grapes to me since Georgia ended up higher up in the polls than the Vols the past two years even though the Vols won the matchup during the year. :whistle:
reese
01-18-2008, 12:48 AM
"hype? hype is something thats not real...im all real"- boobie miles
reese
01-18-2008, 12:49 AM
do I think they will be solid yes, top 10 probably, but the hype they are getting is out of hand, thoughts agreements questions? I see UGA getting 3-4 losses next year partially due to their team and partially to their ridiculous schedule thats all
lsu got the same kind of talk goin into last year..aside from glen dorsey, what did lsu have that uga doesnt? and every mag/website that has uga picked in the top 3 all say they have a tough schedule. what weaknesses do u think they have thats gonna put them losing 2 more games next year then they lost this year?
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 12:51 AM
SEC teams can not be overrated!:brick::brick::brick:
BamaFanNKy
01-18-2008, 12:56 AM
After the Vandy game UGA was a different team. It all depends if teams are able to contain Moreno. I don't totally buy the Stafford hype. I still think UGA is the team to beat until someone can stop Moreno.
I buy into it, but I wouldn't be awfully shocked if they lost 3 games, 4 could be bad. But I don't think they're absolutely proven, and I its not like they absolutely ran through the league last year (not at all).
They did have a really good season, and have a lot of returning players, but how much talent should improve definitely doesn't always come about and mistake games do happen. Hell look at LSU's season this year, they lucked up and had a bunch of top contenders suck as well, but they really had disappointing losses that would've made them lose the MNC game slot in other years.
ColonelKurtz
01-18-2008, 08:23 AM
do I think they will be solid yes, top 10 probably, but the hype they are getting is out of hand, thoughts agreements questions? I see UGA getting 3-4 losses next year partially due to their team and partially to their ridiculous schedule thats all
You think? That's f*n amazing! I've forwarded a link to e$peeN so that they can hook you up with Herb Street and the other deniers in Bristol....
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DEHIII
01-18-2008, 08:39 AM
Since I have made many sarcastic remarks about the facilities at Arkansas, I have a very good flame resistent suit because you are going to need to borrow one. Tell me your mailing address and I will send it on over. :lol: :lol:
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WayzUp
01-18-2008, 08:49 AM
"hype? hype is something thats not real...im all real"- boobie miles
How'd that turn out for Boobie? :whistle:
UGA is going to be a tough out for anyone next year, IMO. I think all they need to do really is find a #2 to Knowshon (C.King anyone?) and get their WR's to make some plays for them....Stafford started to really look more comfortable down the stretch so I don't see why they shouldn't be at least top 3 pre-season. Still, the SEC slate is as close to a lock for at least 1-2 losses for anyone....they and UF will once again be the teams to beat in '08/'09.
Noah.Dreams
01-18-2008, 08:51 AM
In 2007 UGA was billed as too inexperienced to compete. The weak link was the three freshmen starting on their offensive line. That line dominated almost the entire conference.
This team will compete for national championships for the next three years.
Tennessee Ted
01-18-2008, 08:56 AM
Georgia will definitely be in the National championship picture next year. It will be a great acheivement for Georgia to go through their schedule with two losses because it is that tough. If they do any better than that they will easily be in the SEC CG with a shot at the BCS championship game. Even with a two loss year, if they win the east and can get into the SEC CG and win, they might make the championship game. This is assuming we have a repeat of this year with other teams losing more than one game. Thanks to LSU and Florida, a two loss Georgia game might jump some one loss teams next year.
I think what VolMike is annoyed about is that we beat Georgia last year handily and then played LSU very tough in the SEC CG and then everyone just dismisses us from contention next year.
adamsputnik
01-18-2008, 09:14 AM
That's fine - you don't buy the hype now, but hopefully in about ten months or so time you will. We'll be patient with you!
I don't see any reason why we aren't the team to beat for 2008. Our last seven games were as hot as anyone's, and we don't lose a whole lot while getting more experience into some great players. We'll be up there, no worries about that. Should be a crackerjack season.
GatorHunter
01-18-2008, 10:29 AM
UGA is going to be tough next season. Although, I do understand VolMike's point, somewhat. UGA was beaten, last season, at home by a very weak SC team. Then, got totally blown out by a UT team that wasn't a the toughest Vol team I've seen. UGA righted the ship vs UF.....but after that, who did they really beat? Auburn was struggling, UK was decent...but all of these games were in Athens...and let's be honest...GTech was struggling and of all the teams ever allowed to play in a BCS Bowl...Hawaii was the weakest and most over-rated...it was a guaranteed win for the Dogs. In '08...the Dogs will play one of the toughest schedules in America. If they only lose one or two...they should be in the NC by default!!
Now, before some UGA fans come in and turn this into another Gator/Dog pissing contest...I do believe UGA was one of the top 3 teams in the country...could likely have played with or beaten anyone...however, I do think there are "stronger" teams coming into next season.
As far as the Dogs "retain more talent than anybody in the conference"...I don't know about that. The Dogs lose one of the best kickers in the SEC in Brandon Coutu as well as his back-up, Andy Bailey...the Dogs also lose Moreno's back-ups in Brown and Lumpkin. Bryant is gone at WR as is Henderson and Bailey. As far as the OL...the freshman played great this past season, but there was SR leadership on that line...the Dogs lose Chester Adams and Fernando Velasco. On the defensive line, the Dogs lose Marcus Howard at DE, Thomas Flowers, Kelin Johnson, and Andrew Williams at DB, and Brandon Miller and Chris Gaunder at LB. The Dogs lose a total of 24 seniors.
Now, I realize the above players are from the 2-3-deep. But the Dogs do lose at least 8 starters as well as all of Moreno's back-ups...and 3 WRs.
The Dogs will be a scary good team next season...but should we go ahead and chalk them up as SEC Champs...not IMO.
OleMissPike
01-18-2008, 10:49 AM
Granted anything can happen, but I would say UGA loses no more than 3 games max next year; I see a 1 or 2 loss team. I'm drinking the red and black Kool-Aid simply because they don't lose anybody significant. The players they do lose aren't anyone their top 10 recruiting classes the last 4 years or more can't replace. If they can avoid the UGA choke job of late, they should find themselves in the SEC championship and in the driver's seat for a USC matchup in the NC.
OleMissPike
01-18-2008, 10:59 AM
I think you're just bitter that you beat us and we still ended up #2 in the nation when it was all said and done.
It just sounds a little like sour grapes to me since Georgia ended up higher up in the polls than the Vols the past two years even though the Vols won the matchup during the year. :whistle:
No offense intended here, I think 4 losses is a bit far fetched myself, but after blasting the Dawgs 51-33 and 35-14 the last couple of years, I don't think there is any bitterness or sour grapes toward UGA in Volunteer land.
No offense intended here, I think 4 losses is a bit far fetched myself, but after blasting the Dawgs 51-33 and 35-14 the last couple of years, I don't think there is any bitterness or sour grapes toward UGA in Volunteer land.
That's just it... even though they've beat us 2 years in a row, we've finished better than them both years. I'd say he's frustrated.
reese
01-18-2008, 12:56 PM
Now, I realize the above players are from the 2-3-deep. But the Dogs do lose at least 8 starters as well as all of Moreno's back-ups...and 3 WRs.
what 8 starters? adams, howard, and velasco are the only full time starters that uga loses. and howard rotated out all the time. aj bryant never played, that carry in the sugar bowl was becuz he was senior. miller in the second half of the season rarely played. kelin johnson missed a few games and also was rotated out with reshad jones alot. henderson rarely played more then half the offensive snaps. williams and gaunder didnt play anything but special teams.
of the 22, we lose 4 full time starters, bailey,adams,velasco,howard. losing coutu is big tho.
the Prodigy
01-18-2008, 01:15 PM
I look at it this way.... you make predictions this early, and you have to say,"who is favored in these games?" I think Georgia will be favored in 11 of 12 games next season, Florida being the lone exception.
Losing Coutu isn't as big as some think. He just wasn't the same kicker after his injury last year. This kid we've got from Florida who's going to start next season is supposed to be great.
Not to mention: Coutu only won us 1 game this year... and he pretty much lost the South Carolina game for us too.
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 01:35 PM
It is always a happy day to see a UF kicker leave, they have all sucked as of late.
It is always a happy day to see a UF kicker leave, they have all sucked as of late.
We got him from the STATE of Florida.... not the U of F.
geechee
01-18-2008, 01:39 PM
How are the moderators of this board permitting the starter of this thread to use the word "fag" in his signature. Next, I guess the N word will be allowed and then what's it going to be after that?
MillDawg007
01-18-2008, 01:47 PM
In regards to Vols fans feeling that they are getting no respect after beating UGA the past 2 seasons i say this. You are loosing a very good QB the best in the SEC this past season in my opinion. The recievers are going to have to get used to Crompton and its yet to be seen if he is a capable starting QB. He seems tough but that doesnt translate into wins. Also with the Vols loosing the stud LB Mayo, thats a big blow to them on defense. Dont forget their coaches leaving as well.
As far as UGA is concerned i feel they should be ranked up near the top. Its no guarantee that we will win the SEC and no one is saying we should be given it. With the playmakers this team has on the team and the incoming talent we should be very tough team to beat next season. Do i think we get through the SEC Schedule unbeaten no, but I dont see any team going unbeaten. The Dogs deserve the respect they have gotten, they did beat AU pretty easily after the first half, and no one should say AU was an easy win team last season. Should be an exciting year.
reese
01-18-2008, 01:52 PM
Losing Coutu isn't as big as some think. He just wasn't the same kicker after his injury last year. This kid we've got from Florida who's going to start next season is supposed to be great.
Not to mention: Coutu only won us 1 game this year... and he pretty much lost the South Carolina game for us too.
u sure it wasnt the 3 dropped passes in the endzone? 2 from mike moore and 1 from tony wilson? of the fact that with moreno running uncovered down the sideline stafford overthrew him?
losing coutu is a big deal. and anytime u replace a senior with a freshman there will be a drop off 99% of then time.
u sure it wasnt the 3 dropped passes in the endzone? 2 from mike moore and 1 from tony wilson?
Well if they had caught those passes, or Coutu hadn't missed (how many?) FG's, we would have won. But Coutu still missed FG's he shouldn't have... and in the 2006 season, he wouldn't have missed.
WarEagle73
01-18-2008, 01:54 PM
They will certainly be the team to beat in the East at least early in the year. I think they should only lose two or maybe just 1 game next year. The SEC is just too brutal for me to ever predict anyone going wire to wire through this league. Look back over the last 20 years and see how many times it's been done. I can only think of 4 off the top of my head.
Bama 92
Auburn 93
Tennessee 98
Auburn 04
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 01:55 PM
That's just it... even though they've beat us 2 years in a row, we've finished better than them both years. I'd say he's frustrated.
you can call it whatever you want I don't care, I book marked this thread, if I am right next season ill bump it. I might be completely wrong and UGA might be national champs who knows its college football. But this is how I see it, the end of UGA's season was not that impressive, they beat a high school Hawaii team, had a decent home win over Auburn riding a wave of emotion, and beat a depleted UGA team after being fired up by Richt. I do not buy into the hype the media is providing. Like I said I think they will be solid, but if they lose 1 or 0 games I will be shocked, like I said I expect 3 or 4 losses. UGA fans think they are the only ones who got better over the season yet other teams didn't improve?? phat chance of that. UGA returns the most starters in the SEC, so UGA returns 18, Tennessee 17 and Florida 16 or 17. Tell me what you want but to beat UGA stop the run which we were able to do and UGA can not win. Stafford will not beat you through the air without a running game. We proved that this year. Don't flame me I am just saying my opinion call it sour grapes or not whatever I don't care. But we will find out next season.
you can call it whatever you want I don't care, I book marked this thread, if I am right next season ill bump it.
Good, because I'm going to bump it when you're wrong. I might even quote you in my sig. You are making your prediction based on the UGA-UT game, and you are quite possibly the only person alive who still thinks that you beat the same UGA team that reeled off 7 straight wins after that loss in Knoxville.
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:01 PM
Good, because I'm going to bump it when you're wrong. I might even quote you in my sig. You are making your prediction based on the UGA-UT game, and you are quite possibly the only person alive who still thinks that you beat the same UGA team that reeled off 7 straight wins after that loss in Knoxville.
I already said that it wouldn't surprise me if UGA won the national championship also, I am just not buying in now, they haven't proven it to me yet, go ahead and quote me I don't care to be honest. And if you think it is based off us beating you then you are crazy
reese
01-18-2008, 02:01 PM
Losing Coutu isn't as big as some think. He just wasn't the same kicker after his injury last year. This kid we've got from Florida who's going to start next season is supposed to be great.
Not to mention: Coutu only won us 1 game this year... and he pretty much lost the South Carolina game for us too.
i dont kno what ur talkin about....coutu was the only uga player to score that game...4 field goals...he only missed 1 and even if he makes that we lose by 1. so if u call that losing a game for us then i dont kno what to tell u
WarEagle73
01-18-2008, 02:02 PM
How are the moderators of this board permitting the starter of this thread to use the word "fag" in his signature. Next, I guess the N word will be allowed and then what's it going to be after that?
I thought he was showing support towards Florida, Bama, and Georgia!
Just kidding. I'm only Dark Lord of the Auburn Board so I'm not sure I have the jurisdiction on matter such as these. If you find it offensive then PM Neo or one of the Site Administrators instead of carping about it in this thread.
reese
01-18-2008, 02:03 PM
I already said that it wouldn't surprise me if UGA won the national championship also, I am just not buying in now, they haven't proven it to me yet, go ahead and quote me I don't care to be honest. And if you think it is based off us beating you then you are crazy
if it wouldnt suprise u if uga won the NC then what are u talkin about? thats all anyone is sayin...they have a really good shot at winning it...thats what preseason rankings are about so if u can see that happenin then why even start this thread
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:05 PM
if it wouldnt suprise u if uga won the NC then what are u talkin about? thats all anyone is sayin...they have a really good shot at winning it...thats what preseason rankings are about so if u can see that happenin then why even start this thread
because I don't believe they will, I don't think they will, they could surely, but so could we...., so could south carolina if they strung games together, so could 40 other teams. But I think UGA is being hyped up to be way better than they are and with the killer schedule they will lose 3-4 games. It is as much because of their hard schedule as it is who their team is.
i dont kno what ur talkin about....coutu was the only uga player to score that game...4 field goals...he only missed 1 and even if he makes that we lose by 1. so if u call that losing a game for us then i dont kno what to tell u
....i think he missed more than that....
GAMECOCK_FAN
01-18-2008, 02:07 PM
I already said that it wouldn't surprise me if UGA won the national championship also, I am just not buying in now, they haven't proven it to me yet, go ahead and quote me I don't care to be honest. And if you think it is based off us beating you then you are crazy
You're confusing me. I mean, pick a position and stick with it. One minute you're saying you expect UGA to lose 3-4 games, and the next you're saying it wouldn't surprise you to see them win the NC. :wacko:
I guess I agree with you......UGA will win somewhere between 1 and 12 games next year.:laugh:
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 02:07 PM
i dont kno what ur talkin about....coutu was the only uga player to score that game...4 field goals...he only missed 1 and even if he makes that we lose by 1. so if u call that losing a game for us then i dont kno what to tell u
I agree with you, if anyone would have won it for you it would have been him. He had 4 field goals!
reese
01-18-2008, 02:08 PM
....i think he missed more than that....
well ur wrong not only do i have the game on tape and i have seen it like 4 times...i looked it up
GetEmGamecocks
01-18-2008, 02:09 PM
I don't buy into the "hype" either. UGA deserves to be preseason top 5 because they finished last season so strong and are now more experienced, but I would almost bet a testicle that they don't make it to the NC.
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 02:09 PM
Even if he missed 2 field goals hw can't win the game by himself, they needed a td or 2!
GAMECOCK_FAN
01-18-2008, 02:10 PM
....i think he missed more than that....
reese is correct....I just checked. UGA was 4 of 5 in FGs.
University of South Carolina Official Athletic Site - Football (http://gamecocksonline.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stats/2007-2008/sc2-ga.html)
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:11 PM
You're confusing me. I mean, pick a position and stick with it. One minute you're saying you expect UGA to lose 3-4 games, and the next you're saying it wouldn't surprise you to see them win the NC. :wacko:
I guess I agree with you......UGA will win somewhere between 1 and 12 games next year.:laugh:
uga has the same chance to get the the NC as South Carolina but I think wil lose 3-4 games, clear it up a little?
reese
01-18-2008, 02:11 PM
because I don't believe they will, I don't think they will, they could surely, but so could we...., so could south carolina if they strung games together, so could 40 other teams. But I think UGA is being hyped up to be way better than they are and with the killer schedule they will lose 3-4 games. It is as much because of their hard schedule as it is who their team is.
ur being outragous...for 1...there are not 40 teams capable of winning a national championship....south carolina is not capable either...thats not me bashing them either..id bet spurrier would say the same as well as south carolina fans..they just dont have the depth of talent to do it yet.
reese
01-18-2008, 02:13 PM
uga has the same chance to get the the NC as South Carolina but I think wil lose 3-4 games, clear it up a little?
thats just ignorant...i dont want to get into bashing usc and im not tryin to but if u think that a 6-6 team has the same chance to win a NC as an 11-2 team that is far more talented then ur just blinded by some hate for uga
GAMECOCK_FAN
01-18-2008, 02:14 PM
uga has the same chance to get the the NC as South Carolina but I think wil lose 3-4 games, clear it up a little?
Actually, that muddied the water even more......but that's OK.
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:14 PM
thats just ignorant...i dont want to get into bashing usc and im not tryin to but if u think that a 6-6 team has the same chance to win a NC as an 11-2 team that is far more talented then ur just blinded by some hate for uga
because I think UGA will lose 3-4 games I am blinded by hate??? whatever.....
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 02:15 PM
You can call me stupid but I don't think USCe chances are anywhere near UGA's chances at the title.
Edit: but stop the debate guy's because we all know UF will win it! :)
geechee
01-18-2008, 02:16 PM
If you find it offensive then PM Neo or one of the Site Administrators instead of carping about it in this thread.
I don't do any PMs unless it is to answer someone who PMs me. I do all posting in public. It doesn't offend me personally but it is a highly offensive word and I didn't think this site would allow something like this in a person's signature.
uga has the same chance to get the the NC as South Carolina but I think wil lose 3-4 games, clear it up a little?
That is the stupidest thing I've heard since Grady got banned.
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:17 PM
I don't do any PMs unless it is to answer someone who PMs me. I do all posting in public. It doesn't offend me personally but it is a highly offensive word and I didn't think this site would allow something like this in a person's signature.
its a joke and I am pretty sure its obvious, I dont know how someone could take offense to that
reese
01-18-2008, 02:18 PM
because I think UGA will lose 3-4 games I am blinded by hate??? whatever.....
can u not read? i said if u think SC and UGA have equal chances of winning a NC then ur blinded by hate.
uga has a better chance by default becuz they will be rated high in the preseason...we have all seen how a preseason ranking can help or hinder ur chances at a NC...right or wrong thats just how it is
geechee
01-18-2008, 02:19 PM
can u not read? i said if u think SC and UGA have equal chances of winning a NC then ur blinded by hate.
It is quite obvious that he is blinded by hate by looking at his signature which is why I'm not bothering to even respond to him.
JerryBeeds
01-18-2008, 02:20 PM
So your telling me we have a chance?:blink:
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:20 PM
can u not read? i said if u think SC and UGA have equal chances of winning a NC then ur blinded by hate.
uga has a better chance by default becuz they will be rated high in the preseason...we have all seen how a preseason ranking can help or hinder ur chances at a NC...right or wrong thats just how it is
whatever I think UGA will lose 3-4 games, fine I will be shocked if they win the NC happy? cause thats what I think
geechee
01-18-2008, 02:22 PM
So your telling me we have a chance?:blink:
With visor boy as a coach, there is always a chance.
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 02:23 PM
Well I wouldn't say 3-4 I would say 2-3 but I think just 2! UF ofcourse:) and Tenn/LSU pick one. I don't care how down the LSU team will be if any at all going into deatch valley is what it sounds!
whatever I think UGA will lose 3-4 games, fine I will be shocked if they win the NC happy? cause thats what I think
Why don't you just leave the thinking to us, mm-kay?
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:29 PM
Why don't you just leave the thinking to us, mm-kay?
ill leave the losing to you
ill leave the losing to you
Why? You seem to be doing quite a good job of being a loser yourself...
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:34 PM
Why? You seem to be doing quite a good job of being a loser yourself...
you are right, I think UGA won't be as good as predicted so I am a loser and ave blind hate, you UGA fans are just dumb, sorry but its true
adamsputnik
01-18-2008, 02:39 PM
Well, this thread took off.
While you're predicting a bunch of losses, how about some actual analysis as to why? We lost two games this year and will only be stronger next year. I have a hard time believing that we'll lose more games next year than we did this year unless we have a string of injuries or some other fateful occurrence. I don't see too many other teams in the SEC improving out of sight and handing us all those losses - although anything is possible I suppose.
reese
01-18-2008, 02:39 PM
you are right, I think UGA won't be as good as predicted so I am a loser and ave blind hate, you UGA fans are just dumb, sorry but its true
so...uga fans think we have a shot at the NC next year...most other fans think we have a good shot at it too...every media outlet in the country thinks we have a shot too...u disagree with everyone yet WE are the dumb ones?
you are right, I think UGA won't be as good as predicted so I am a loser and ave blind hate, you UGA fans are just dumb, sorry but its true
"Boo-hoo! You're a dummy!" :cry:
:lolup:
geechee
01-18-2008, 02:45 PM
so...uga fans think we have a shot at the NC next year...most other fans think we have a good shot at it too...every media outlet in the country thinks we have a shot too...u disagree with everyone yet WE are the dumb ones?
I wouldn't call you dumb but, I will say that you are wasting your time arguing with this idiot. This is why I only sling it with tUF fans. I find them all more interesting in their posts even if they don't like me.
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:46 PM
so...uga fans think we have a shot at the NC next year...most other fans think we have a good shot at it too...every media outlet in the country thinks we have a shot too...u disagree with everyone yet WE are the dumb ones?
no you are dumb for saying I am an idiot and blinded by hate simply because I do not agree with you
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 02:46 PM
I think this whole thread is worthless anyway since the season isn't close to started and recruiting isn't even over so I am sure this will be started again in 5 months...
reese
01-18-2008, 02:48 PM
I wouldn't call you dumb but, I will say that you are wasting your time arguing with this idiot. This is why I only sling it with tUF fans. I find them all more interesting in their posts even if they don't like me.
i agree..there isnt a single florida fan that i can think of off the top of my hand that i think is stupid but there are about 3 vol fans that are either 12 years old or have that level of thinking.
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:50 PM
i agree..there isnt a single florida fan that i can think of off the top of my hand that i think is stupid but there are about 3 vol fans that are either 12 years old or have that level of thinking.
and 3 UGA fans that are so homeristic that someone who thinks they won't make it to the NC or will be the best is an idiot....yeah great thinkings guys
reese
01-18-2008, 02:51 PM
no you are dumb for saying I am an idiot and blinded by hate simply because I do not agree with you
show me where i called u an idiot....
it would be 1 thing if u had some type of football analysis on why uga wont make it to the NC. u havent given a reason why u think uga will lose 3-4 games. yea uga has a tough schedule...its the SEC everyone has a tough schedule...florida had 1 in 06 and lsu had 1 in 07...so the only thing that i can think of as to why u think uga will lose that many games is that u just hate them
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 02:51 PM
i agree..there isnt a single florida fan that i can think of off the top of my hand that i think is stupid but there are about 3 vol fans that are either 12 years old or have that level of thinking.
Lmao, Reese love's sending me mean pictures in reps! he sent me one of Tebow getting laid out yesterday haha.
reese
01-18-2008, 02:53 PM
and 3 UGA fans that are so homeristic that someone who thinks they won't make it to the NC or will be the best is an idiot....yeah great thinkings guys
u are the 1 and only person on this board that will call me a homer...i am def not that....even ppl who might not care for my post on here couldnt call me a homer.
and 3 UGA fans that are so homeristic that someone who thinks they won't make it to the NC or will be the best is an idiot....yeah great thinkings guys
If you had said, UGA will go 10-2, but not make the NC, I wouldn't call you an idiot. If you had said, UGA will get edged by somebody else for the title game, I wouldn't call you an idiot. But you just said that UGA would lose 4 games. Four. Two more than they lost this year, and they get stronger next year. So far, you've provided absolutely ZERO basis for this outlandish claim, and seeing as how you have nothing to back it up, you are in effect, an idiot full of blind hate.
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:54 PM
Why don't you just leave the thinking to us, mm-kay?
this is the same as calling me an idiot
reese
01-18-2008, 02:54 PM
Lmao, Reese love's sending me mean pictures in reps! he sent me one of Tebow getting laid out yesterday haha.
yea but at least it was a positive rep...i had 1 for tennesseegirl too but i had given out too much rep
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 02:55 PM
thats just ignorant...i dont want to get into bashing usc and im not tryin to but if u think that a 6-6 team has the same chance to win a NC as an 11-2 team that is far more talented then ur just blinded by some hate for uga
this is where you mention blinded by hate
reese
01-18-2008, 02:57 PM
this is where you mention blinded by hate
i kno i said that..and i still agree with it...but i never called u an idiot
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:00 PM
here I will even tell you what games I think you will lose
Tennessee
@ LSU
Florida
@ Auburn
why???
Tennessee : you guys mentioned this is basically the same team you had this year but better since you return 18 starters, well guess what it is basically our same team but better and we return 17 starters and get upgrades at 3/5 positions we lost, we have the gameplan to beat you as proven by the last 2 years
LSU will beat you because they are playing at home and are being overlooked this season, they have just as much talent as UGA and the home crowd will be the difference
Florida: UGA fans you think your team was fired up coming into the game this year, iimagine how UF will feel about this year, With a healthy Tebow I look for Florida to win riding an emotional high and get the series back under their control another 5 years
Auburn: they will have a sick D like always even with the loss of Muschamp, just so much talent on their D. Tony Franklin is the key for Auburn. With Kodi burns and the spread offense Auburn beats UGA at home in payback for last year
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:00 PM
i kno i said that..and i still agree with it...but i never called u an idiot
I am grouping your fans together
reese
01-18-2008, 03:03 PM
I am grouping your fans together
well dont....dont say that i called u an idiot when someone else did.
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 03:03 PM
here I will even tell you what games I think you will lose
Tennessee
@ LSU
Florida
@ Auburn
why???
Tennessee : you guys mentioned this is basically the same team you had this year but better since you return 18 starters, well guess what it is basically our same team but better and we return 17 starters and get upgrades at 3/5 positions we lost, we have the gameplan to beat you as proven by the last 2 years
LSU will beat you because they are playing at home and are being overlooked this season, they have just as much talent as UGA and the home crowd will be the difference
Florida: UGA fans you think your team was fired up coming into the game this year, iimagine how UF will feel about this year, With a healthy Tebow I look for Florida to win riding an emotional high and get the series back under their control another 5 years
Auburn: they will have a sick D like always even with the loss of Muschamp, just so much talent on their D. Tony Franklin is the key for Auburn. With Kodi burns and the spread offense Auburn beats UGA at home in payback for last year
Maybe 1 or 2 but not all 4.
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:06 PM
Maybe 1 or 2 but not all 4.
this does not include games such as
@ South Carolina
@ Arizona State
which are both toss ups with a slight edge to UGA but they still have a solid chance they might not win those, on top of a bowl game against a team that will be similar to UGA in terms of how good they are because thats how bowl matchups work. And never count out GT now that they have a great coach in Paul Johnson. UGA players are buying into their own hype and once they lose 1 game I think it will probably just tumble from there.....
here I will even tell you what games I think you will lose
Tennessee
@ LSU
Florida
@ Auburn
why???
Tennessee : you guys mentioned this is basically the same team you had this year but better since you return 18 starters, well guess what it is basically our same team but better and we return 17 starters and get upgrades at 3/5 positions we lost, we have the gameplan to beat you as proven by the last 2 years
LSU will beat you because they are playing at home and are being overlooked this season, they have just as much talent as UGA and the home crowd will be the difference
Florida: UGA fans you think your team was fired up coming into the game this year, iimagine how UF will feel about this year, With a healthy Tebow I look for Florida to win riding an emotional high and get the series back under their control another 5 years
Auburn: they will have a sick D like always even with the loss of Muschamp, just so much talent on their D. Tony Franklin is the key for Auburn. With Kodi burns and the spread offense Auburn beats UGA at home in payback for last year
Are you related to BamaPerry?
this does not include games such as
@ South Carolina
@ Arizona State
which are both toss ups with a slight edge to UGA but they still have a solid chance they might not win those, on top of a bowl game against a team that will be similar to UGA in terms of how good they are because thats how bowl matchups work. And never count out GT now that they have a great coach in Paul Johnson. UGA players are buying into their own hype and once they lose 1 game I think it will probably just tumble from there.....
Oh so now we're losing 7 games, huh?
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:09 PM
Are you related to BamaPerry?
you are the one, just don't think it is possible that you will lose 4 games do you, I only need to show one example and that is my own team, Tennessee 2005
reese
01-18-2008, 03:09 PM
here I will even tell you what games I think you will lose
Tennessee
@ LSU
Florida
@ Auburn
so u think we will lose all those games and still be top 10? u did say in the 1st post that we should be top 10...
ur reasoning doesnt make sense...u say UT has the gameplan to beat uga so yall win that one since we return similar amounts of starters but we return similar amounts as auburn and florida both of whom we beat last year.
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:10 PM
Oh so now we're losing 7 games, huh?
you don't have very good reading comprehension do you, I am saying they are all possible losses, I already said it is because of your schedule, I am saying you have 8 games next season that are toss ups, what is so hard to understand
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:11 PM
so u think we will lose all those games and still be top 10? u did say in the 1st post that we should be top 10...
ur reasoning doesnt make sense...u say UT has the gameplan to beat uga so yall win that one since we return similar amounts of starters but we return similar amounts as auburn and florida both of whom we beat last year.
you beat Auburn on an Emotional high, they have a different offensive coordinator who is way better than Borges and are playing at home, I already explained this, you also beat a depleted Florida team on another emotional high.....
reese
01-18-2008, 03:12 PM
Oh so now we're losing 7 games, huh?
he is just wishfull thinking..
you don't have very good reading comprehension do you, I am saying they are all possible losses, I already said it is because of your schedule, I am saying you have 8 games next season that are toss ups, what is so hard to understand
Is 98 your birth year?
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:12 PM
so u think we will lose all those games and still be top 10? u did say in the 1st post that we should be top 10...
ur reasoning doesnt make sense...u say UT has the gameplan to beat uga so yall win that one since we return similar amounts of starters but we return similar amounts as auburn and florida both of whom we beat last year.
I said I think you should start top 10, I don't think you will be as the season goes along
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:13 PM
Is 98 your birth year?
does a dog have the same intelligence as you?
reese
01-18-2008, 03:14 PM
you beat Auburn on an Emotional high, they have a different offensive coordinator who is way better than Borges and are playing at home, I already explained this, you also beat a depleted Florida team on another emotional high.....
2 years in a row? we beat auburn by 20...they couldnt stop the run for nuthin and cox was too shook up to make a decision...that has nuthin to do with emotion...
and how was florida depleted? who did that not have?
does a dog have the same intelligence as you?
Probably not. Now could you answer my question?
ColonelKurtz
01-18-2008, 03:17 PM
I don't buy into the "hype" either. UGA deserves to be preseason top 5 because they finished last season so strong and are now more experienced, but I would almost bet a testicle that they don't make it to the NC.
Dude..........please! I know you chikin fans take feetsball seriously but to even THINK about parting with one of your nutz is a wee bit overboard. :ohmy:
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:19 PM
Probably not. Now could you answer my question?
no but thank for asking, you are too big of a homer so I am not even going to try and respond to try and prove anything to you on this thread, I have class now so the rest of you can wait till I get back
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:20 PM
2 years in a row? we beat auburn by 20...they couldnt stop the run for nuthin and cox was too shook up to make a decision...that has nuthin to do with emotion...
and how was florida depleted? who did that not have?
Cox is Auburn's problem, Burns is a better player and Tony Franklin is a better OC with a better offense, Auburn has always won despite and offense, now they have an offense they will win the west next year
crimsonnation713
01-18-2008, 03:20 PM
IMO the Dawgs are gonna get at least 11 wins. Unless Moreno was a fluke ( I dunt think so Lucy) they'll be locked and loaded. ( insert AC/DC's "Back in Black" here)
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 03:21 PM
2 years in a row? we beat auburn by 20...they couldnt stop the run for nuthin and cox was too shook up to make a decision...that has nuthin to do with emotion...
and how was florida depleted? who did that not have?
tim tebow could not run which is half of Florida's gameplan, ow I gotta go to class we can finish this later
reese
01-18-2008, 03:22 PM
Cox is Auburn's problem, Burns is a better player and Tony Franklin is a better OC with a better offense, Auburn has always won despite and offense, now they have an offense they will win the west next year
where is tony franklin from? where was he OC at b4?
i see u didnt mention anything about how auburn couldnt stop the run...
no but thank for asking, you are too big of a homer so I am not even going to try and respond to try and prove anything to you on this thread, I have class now so the rest of you can wait till I get back
:lol: 7 pages of your crap and now I'M the homer :rolling2:
Have fun in school, mikey boy. Ask your teacher to instill some common sense in your head, will ya?
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 03:25 PM
at least someone on here is younger than me! ha
reese
01-18-2008, 03:25 PM
tim tebow could not run which is half of Florida's gameplan, ow I gotta go to class we can finish this later
so what? he still played...so they were depleted as u put it...it was halfway thru the season anyway...every team has ppl playing thats dinged up...if he runs that much next season, tebow is likely to be a bit dinged again going into the game. i kno that tebow not running that game hurt there offense but that just says that we were the better TEAM. they didnt have a back last year that could take the load off tebow.
reese
01-18-2008, 03:28 PM
another thing uga has in its favor is that it returns both its coordinators...i think they only lost a TE coach so far. as far as i kno florida is the only other elite SEC school that returns head coach and both coordinators.
crimsonnation713
01-18-2008, 03:31 PM
at least someone on here is younger than me! ha
Have you got carpal tunnel yet? :whistle:
lacene
01-18-2008, 03:44 PM
UGA will have just as good a chance to win the SEC as any other, but I too have my concerns. Just like I did with UF last season after they lost so much on defense, as well as playing a new QB. UF fans here said that the idea of going 8-4 was highly unlikely, but look what happened.
Just because UGA is getting high rankings in these early pre-season polls is not true justification that they will win the NC, or even be a top contender towards the end of the season. They certainly look to be a good bet, but there are so many intangibles that cannot be answered right now, just like it was with UF last season. UGA played the last half with great emotion and confidence, but can that confidence carry over into 2008?
UGA was not a dominant team towards the end of last season, IMO. True, they reeled off 7 consecutive wins. But the only games they won that could be called routes were against a stumbling Auburn team with no QB, and weak GT and Hawaii teams. They were very fortunate to beat Vanderbilt. Tebow played hurt, which made him ineffective as a runner. Troy out-scored UGA in the 2nd half. It was UGA's confidence level, and the great tandem of Brown and Moreno, that carried them. Brown will be gone in '08: will Moreno be able to take his mantle as leader? Will King be able to step up like Moreno did in '07, and help take defensive focus off Knowshon? Will Stafford at long last be able to step up, with less experience at WR and OL, and make the offense his? Big questions, all.....
UGA has only 6 games at Sanford. USC will not be any easier an opponent than it was for them last season. Tough home games against Bama, UT and Vandy will test the team's confidence, and the 4 consecutive road games against LSU, UF, UK, and AU in consecutive weeks will beat the Dogs down. Florida will have one game marked on their calendar in '08, and they are more talented and deeper than UGA.
LSU was a more talented and experienced team in '07 than UGA will be in '08, and they were lucky to get out of it with 2 losses. And UGA will play a tougher schedule in 2008.
Tebow played hurt, which made him ineffective as a runner.
That is straight up bullshit. A bruised shoulder made him an ineffective runner?
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 03:55 PM
Well since the gameplan was changed to have tebow stay in the pocket yes, but idc I am not going to make accuses they won and the dominated our Defense....
lacene
01-18-2008, 03:57 PM
That is straight up bullshit. A bruised shoulder made him an ineffective runner?
This is straight up ignorance: a bruised shoulder adversedly impacts ANY runner in football. Do you not know how football is played? If not, I apologize, and will go find someone my own size to pick on.....
reese
01-18-2008, 03:58 PM
But the only games they won that could be called routes were against a stumbling Auburn team with no QB, and weak GT and Hawaii teams.
stumbling auburn team that had only lost 1 time in the 7 games leading up to the game with uga and that was to LSU
Florida will have one game marked on their calendar in '08, and they are more talented and deeper than UGA.
based on what?
LSU was a more talented and experienced team in '07 than UGA will be in '08, and they were lucky to get out of it with 2 losses. And UGA will play a tougher schedule in 2008.
lsu was more exp. but if they were more talented it isnt by much...
VolMike98
01-18-2008, 04:41 PM
I am done with this thread if I am right next year then I will come here laughing at all you UGA fans, and DDD you called me a homer??? where did I say Tennessee was gonna do anything significant this season??? all I said is that we will beat UGA I think which if you think makes me a homer then its just dumb, we have blown you out the past 2 times we played you
lacene
01-18-2008, 04:43 PM
stumbling auburn team that had only lost 1 time in the 7 games leading up to the game with uga and that was to LSU
Auburn stumbled in the UGA game, no doubt. They beat their opponents going into the UGA game by playing smart-management offense that featured low turnovers, and a predominant run attack coupled with a stifling, aggressive defense that kept the opponents' scoring down. Cox played his role well during this period, with a low passing rate (21 passes per game, and 169 passing yards per game), high completion rate (66.7%), and low on INT's (6 TD's, 1 INT). This was after starting the season with 2 TD's and 6 INT's in the first 3 games. Cox would throw for 4 INT's against UGA, the first 3 of which UGA converted into 17 of their points, and the 4th was intercepted at the UGA 1-yd line at the end of the game. Other than Cox's 3 2-INT games at the start of '07, it was the only game - before or after - that Cox threw for more than 1 INT/game. He had an off game....
based on what?
Look at the team's respective recruiting classes for 2006 & 2007. UGA has a great 2008 class coming in, but I doubt that many of those players will have a major role as true freshmen. And even then, UF may pass UGA in the rankings before this class is through....
lsu was more exp. but if they were more talented it isnt by much...
It doesn't defeat my point, either....
GatorBait15
01-18-2008, 04:57 PM
We are going to beat... UGA, Tenn, USC and LSU I am the homer!!!!!:laugh:
reese
01-18-2008, 05:00 PM
Look at the team's respective recruiting classes for 2006 & 2007. UGA has a great 2008 class coming in, but I doubt that many of those players will have a major role as true freshmen. And even then, UF may pass UGA in the rankings before this class is through....
u cant just look at the 2 previous years...u have to at least go back 3 and really 4....and if u look at the players in the classes uga has gotten much more production out of theres then florida has of theres. all those high ranked offensive players and so far only tebow and harvin have panned out. uga had a young defense last year as well as florida..uga started 4 freshman at different points this year on d....along with 6 sophmores at other points..there were at least 8 other freshman that got playin time this year. i dont think anybody would say florida had a better defense then uga did....so on defense i think uga is more talented and deeper then florida.
lacene
01-18-2008, 05:19 PM
u cant just look at the 2 previous years...u have to at least go back 3 and really 4....and if u look at the players in the classes uga has gotten much more production out of theres then florida has of theres. all those high ranked offensive players and so far only tebow and harvin have panned out. uga had a young defense last year as well as florida..uga started 4 freshman at different points this year on d....along with 6 sophmores at other points..there were at least 8 other freshman that got playin time this year. i dont think anybody would say florida had a better defense then uga did....so on defense i think uga is more talented and deeper then florida.
I did look at them. Did you? UF's classes beginning from '04 (these players will be RS-seniors in '08) edges UGA's classes. UGA's biggest class over UF was in '05, but it pales next to UF's '07 class over UGA's.
How has UF "gotten much more production" out of their players? Now how far back are YOU going? When did UGA win their national championship??
UGA is very fortunate to have played well against struggling/weak opponents down the stretch in '07. Yes, the Gator's defense looks to be a weak spot for them, but theirs' was young in '07 as well. And I remember all to well that it was UGA's defense that was hitting rock-bottom in the SEC - along with UF - in both INT's forced and turnovers gained very late in the season, until they got 4 INT's against both Auburn and Hawaii. The big question is: if Michigan, playing the way they played against UF, played against UGA, would they have won that game??
gatorhater
01-18-2008, 05:25 PM
UGA will have just as good a chance to win the SEC as any other, but I too have my concerns. Just like I did with UF last season after they lost so much on defense, as well as playing a new QB. UF fans here said that the idea of going 8-4 was highly unlikely, but look what happened.
Just because UGA is getting high rankings in these early pre-season polls is not true justification that they will win the NC, or even be a top contender towards the end of the season. They certainly look to be a good bet, but there are so many intangibles that cannot be answered right now, just like it was with UF last season. UGA played the last half with great emotion and confidence, but can that confidence carry over into 2008?
UGA was not a dominant team towards the end of last season, IMO. True, they reeled off 7 consecutive wins. But the only games they won that could be called routes were against a stumbling Auburn team with no QB, and weak GT and Hawaii teams. They were very fortunate to beat Vanderbilt. Tebow played hurt, which made him ineffective as a runner. Troy out-scored UGA in the 2nd half. It was UGA's confidence level, and the great tandem of Brown and Moreno, that carried them. Brown will be gone in '08: will Moreno be able to take his mantle as leader? Will King be able to step up like Moreno did in '07, and help take defensive focus off Knowshon? Will Stafford at long last be able to step up, with less experience at WR and OL, and make the offense his? Big questions, all.....
UGA has only 6 games at Sanford. USC will not be any easier an opponent than it was for them last season. Tough home games against Bama, UT and Vandy will test the team's confidence, and the 4 consecutive road games against LSU, UF, UK, and AU in consecutive weeks will beat the Dogs down. Florida will have one game marked on their calendar in '08, and they are more talented and deeper than UGA.
LSU was a more talented and experienced team in '07 than UGA will be in '08, and they were lucky to get out of it with 2 losses. And UGA will play a tougher schedule in 2008.
I actually agree with this analysis...we are a bit overhyped right now. We will be one of the best teams in the country, but we will face a tougher road than maybe anyone...and I don't believe that we've proven ourselves against a worthy opponent yet, but we'll have our opportunity next year. I haven't looked at the schedule for '09, but I'm hoping it's not as brutal...we still have a lot of talent returning in '09, so I'm actually saying that's our year.
Instead of "wait 'til next year.." it's "wait 'til year after next"
reese
01-18-2008, 05:26 PM
I did look at them. Did you? UF's classes beginning from '04 (these players will be RS-seniors in '08) edges UGA's classes. UGA's biggest class over UF was in '05, but it pales next to UF's '07 class over UGA's.
How has UGA "gotten much more production" out of their players? Now how far back are YOU going? When did UGA win their national championship??
UGA is very fortunate to have played well against struggling/weak opponents down the stretch in '07. Yes, the Gator's defense looks to be a weak spot for them, but theirs' was young in '07 as well. And I remember all to well that it was UGA's defense that was hitting rock-bottom in the SEC - along with UF - in both INT's forced and turnovers gained very late in the season, until they got 4 INT's against both Auburn and Hawaii. The big question is: if Michigan, playing the way they played against UF, played against UGA, would they have won that game??
why are u talkin about a nation championship in 06? im talkin about the teams from this year and how they might translate to next year...how many guys on the 08 team played on the 06 team?
ur obviously gonna downplay anything uga does..(u always do)...so im threw talkin to u..uga could win the NC and u would find some way to say they lucked up to do it...
reese
01-18-2008, 05:33 PM
I actually agree with this analysis...we are a bit overhyped right now. We will be one of the best teams in the country, but we will face a tougher road than maybe anyone...and I don't believe that we've proven ourselves against a worthy opponent yet, but we'll have our opportunity next year. I haven't looked at the schedule for '09, but I'm hoping it's not as brutal...we still have a lot of talent returning in '09, so I'm actually saying that's our year.
Instead of "wait 'til next year.." it's "wait 'til year after next"
the problem is when we beat teams there always an excuse afterwards....everyone picked uga to lose to florida...when they won it was becuz of tebow was hurt.....goin into the auburn game they had the No. 1 defense in like 3-4 catagories and we wouldnt be able to run on them so therefore uga would lose, when they didnt it was becuz they were riding a wave of emotion, going into the hawaii game, everyone (not the ppl on this site) on tv and radio were talkin upset, when it didnt happen like that it was oh they werent suppoesed to be in the game....
lacene
01-18-2008, 05:39 PM
why are u talkin about a nation championship in 06? im talkin about the teams from this year and how they might translate to next year...how many guys on the 08 team played on the 06 team?
ur obviously gonna downplay anything uga does..(u always do)...so im threw talkin to u..uga could win the NC and u would find some way to say they lucked up to do it...
OK, you earned this:
:wacko:
I referred to UF having a more talented and deeper team than UGA for next year, and you asked what I based it on. I mentioned a couple of recruiting classes, and you say "go back further", and say that if I "look at the classes", UGA has gotten more out of theirs than UF did. UF won their NC in '06, dude. They still have players playing for them that were part of that NC team, so they qualify for your statement about UGA or UF getting more out of their players.
Now you're saying that you're talking about teams from this year, and how they translate into next year? So am I, dude. Just put the thread down, and back away slowly, OK???
:unsure::whistle:
If UGA wins the NC in '08, it won't matter what I say then, because I'm not arguing that I don't think UGA can win the NC without luck, I'm saying that I think it's improbable that UGA win the NC, period. If they win it, regardless of how they do it, then I'll be proven wrong, won't I? ;)
I hereby declare this thread gayified by lacene and volmike's presence. Thus sayeth the legend.
reese
01-18-2008, 05:56 PM
how many guys on the 08 team played on the 06 team?
They still have players playing for them that were part of that NC team, so they qualify for your statement about UGA or UF getting more out of their players.
who besides tebow and harvin got real playing time on that team?
I referred to UF having a more talented and deeper team than UGA for next year, and you asked what I based it on. I mentioned a couple of recruiting classes, and you say "go back further", and say that if I "look at the classes",
from 04 thru 07 florida avg a ranking of 6.75 on rivals. 7,15,4,1
from 04 thru 07 uga avg a ranking of 6.75 on rivals. 6,10,2,9
so there goes ur more talented argument
UGA has gotten more out of theirs than UF did. UF won their NC in '06, dude.
as far as the players on both teams goin into the 08 season uga has gotten more production out of the ones they have compared to florida. tebow and harvin have out performed any offensive players that uga have. but thats all they have had on offense thats comin back. where do u see depth on floridas offense as of now? on defense uga has had more guys play and be productive goin into this season then florida
If UGA wins the NC in '08, it won't matter what I say then, because I'm not arguing that I don't think UGA can win the NC without luck, I'm saying that I think it's improbable that UGA win the NC, period. If they win it, regardless of how they do it, then I'll be proven wrong, won't I? ;)
then who in the SEC is probable to win it?
SeanVol
01-18-2008, 06:04 PM
UGA deserves a high ranking for next year and they will be the team to beat next year!
I say UGA finishes with 11-1 record next year.
adamsputnik
01-18-2008, 08:00 PM
It's flat out common sense that we're going to be the team to beat in 2008. Just get over it, fellas.
We will not lose any more than two games barring any grave misfortune. Of that I am quite confident.
lacene
01-18-2008, 10:57 PM
who besides tebow and harvin got real playing time on that team?
Dude, it doesn't matter, they were still part of the team. They still participated, and therefore they helped produce a SEC and national title. What has UGA's players - starting or backups - produced for their team that matches up? You want a hint? NOTHING.....
from 04 thru 07 florida avg a ranking of 6.75 on rivals. 7,15,4,1
from 04 thru 07 uga avg a ranking of 6.75 on rivals. 6,10,2,9
so there goes ur more talented argument
You got it flipped, dude. In 2006, UF had the #2 class, and UGA had the #4. Go check it again.....:whistle:
as far as the players on both teams goin into the 08 season uga has gotten more production out of the ones they have compared to florida. tebow and harvin have out performed any offensive players that uga have. but thats all they have had on offense thats comin back. where do u see depth on floridas offense as of now? on defense uga has had more guys play and be productive goin into this season then florida
For the last 2 years, UF is 22-5 with a SEC & NC title. UGA is 20-6 with 20 wins, and that's it. I still don't see where UGA is producing better than UF. Even if you add '05, UF still out-produces UGA, in wins as well as titles....
then who in the SEC is probable to win it?
I think for the East UF will beat UGA and get it's revenge in the WLOCP, and win the division....
lacene
01-18-2008, 11:01 PM
I hereby declare this thread gayified by lacene and volmike's presence. Thus sayeth the legend.
Who calls you the legend? Is it Stafford?? We found out why in another thread, didn't we?? http://www.secfanatics.com/vbulletin/images/icons/yawn.gif
:ph34r:
GatorHunter
01-18-2008, 11:45 PM
They will certainly be the team to beat in the East at least early in the year. I think they should only lose two or maybe just 1 game next year. The SEC is just too brutal for me to ever predict anyone going wire to wire through this league. Look back over the last 20 years and see how many times it's been done. I can only think of 4 off the top of my head.
Bama 92
Auburn 93
Tennessee 98
Auburn 04
The Gators went undefeated in the SEC in 95 and 96...:thumbs:...unless you mean "undefeated" period.
Tider27
01-18-2008, 11:51 PM
Not trying to start anything because I have no "beef" with Georgia or its fans. But they still have a lot to prove, SEC team or not. Stafford will have to step up big time and I just don't see that happening. Now I could be dead wrong and lord knows we here at Alabama have our own QB problems to worry about. Stafford is a solid QB, but is he good enough to lead UGA to a NC?
gatorhater
01-19-2008, 06:53 AM
OK, you earned this:
:wacko:
I referred to UF having a more talented and deeper team than UGA for next year, and you asked what I based it on. I mentioned a couple of recruiting classes, and you say "go back further", and say that if I "look at the classes", UGA has gotten more out of theirs than UF did. UF won their NC in '06, dude. They still have players playing for them that were part of that NC team, so they qualify for your statement about UGA or UF getting more out of their players.
Now you're saying that you're talking about teams from this year, and how they translate into next year? So am I, dude. Just put the thread down, and back away slowly, OK???
:unsure::whistle:
If UGA wins the NC in '08, it won't matter what I say then, because I'm not arguing that I don't think UGA can win the NC without luck, I'm saying that I think it's improbable that UGA win the NC, period. If they win it, regardless of how they do it, then I'll be proven wrong, won't I? ;)
I think we'll all agree that it takes some luck to win the NC under the current system...especially in the SEC. Look at UF in 06 and LSU in 07. IMO, we have had 2 national championship caliber teams since 2001 ('02 and '07)...but we didn't have the lucky breaks.
Let's just hope we can catch the breaks next year...
GamecockDieHard
01-19-2008, 07:15 AM
I think we'll all agree that it takes some luck to win the NC under the current system...especially in the SEC. Look at UF in 06 and LSU in 07. IMO, we have had 2 national championship caliber teams since 2001 ('02 and '07)...but we didn't have the lucky breaks.
Let's just hope we can catch the breaks next year...
I think everyone is missing the BIG Picture!!! UF in 06, LSU in 07, and in 08 it's up to the east to bring it home. As much as I'd love it to be my team, after last year (reality), I'd say it's up to Georgia to do it for the SEC. Although I'm a Tebow fan, I'm against one-team dominance. It would be better for the conference to have 4 or 5 SEC teams win the NC (in succession would shut ESPN up) than having LSU and UF pass it back and forth. GO DAWGS!
ColonelKurtz
01-19-2008, 09:33 AM
UGA will have just as good a chance to win the SEC as any other, but I too have my concerns. Just like I did with UF last season after they lost so much on defense, as well as playing a new QB. UF fans here said that the idea of going 8-4 was highly unlikely, but look what happened.
Just because UGA is getting high rankings in these early pre-season polls is not true justification that they will win the NC, or even be a top contender towards the end of the season. They certainly look to be a good bet, but there are so many intangibles that cannot be answered right now, just like it was with UF last season. UGA played the last half with great emotion and confidence, but can that confidence carry over into 2008?
UGA was not a dominant team towards the end of last season, IMO. True, they reeled off 7 consecutive wins. But the only games they won that could be called routes were against a stumbling Auburn team with no QB, and weak GT and Hawaii teams. They were very fortunate to beat Vanderbilt. Tebow played hurt, which made him ineffective as a runner. Troy out-scored UGA in the 2nd half. It was UGA's confidence level, and the great tandem of Brown and Moreno, that carried them. Brown will be gone in '08: will Moreno be able to take his mantle as leader? Will King be able to step up like Moreno did in '07, and help take defensive focus off Knowshon? Will Stafford at long last be able to step up, with less experience at WR and OL, and make the offense his? Big questions, all.....
UGA has only 6 games at Sanford. USC will not be any easier an opponent than it was for them last season. Tough home games against Bama, UT and Vandy will test the team's confidence, and the 4 consecutive road games against LSU, UF, UK, and AU in consecutive weeks will beat the Dogs down. Florida will have one game marked on their calendar in '08, and they are more talented and deeper than UGA.
LSU was a more talented and experienced team in '07 than UGA will be in '08, and they were lucky to get out of it with 2 losses. And UGA will play a tougher schedule in 2008.
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad part is, you actually believe what you typed...
Having cued up some Robert Randolph & The Family Band to jam wid'.......
You ARE correct about preseason rankings and how speculative they are but did you know that not since Y2k has there been a swing and a miss on a team highly considered such that the team failed to even have a winning season? Recall who that was? (Hint: their fans more deluded than chikin fans!)
To answer your second paragraph: Over the last Decade, The University of Georgia is 97-30, good for #6 Nationally and the next SEC team(s) are UF & UT with 93 wins. It is thus a statistical LOCK that the Dawgs will challenge for every title in sight just as they did in '07 as well as being prominently ranked in the Top 15.
Switching to Celtic Crush as I love the music of my ancestors...
As for your 3rd paragraph, if the Dawgs were not dominant as you contend, then how are double digit beatings of EVERY opponent but Vandy to be explained away as you have? Of the seven, Vandy, Troy, and GT were not ranked foes but all fell. Quote: Troy out-scored UGA in the 2nd half. Troy was already BEATEN in the FIRST HALF, 24-10. Richt mighta pulled the whoopass string a bit early but the Dawgs STILL scored AT WILL. As for your other bablings, IF a bullfrog had wings....
Paragraph 4: Blah, blah, blahhhhhhhhhblahblah. UGA will be FAVORED vs. EVERY opponent on the schedule. And I hate it for y'all, but the Dawgs are going to annihilate you. Yes, the LSU-UF thing is tough but what's your point? Dawgs won 7 in a row to end '07 and look to keep the streak alive in '08. Oh, care to back up that UF remark with something besides cackling? Facts/stats/roster/depth chart.........Something.......
And the last one.......uber talented LSU LOST to UK whom UGA beat by 11. You're smoking crack if you believe what you typed.
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There are a special convergence of things which must occur for ANY team to reach and win the MNC game. Many things outside of a team's control must fall into place and it never hurts to have espn backing you (wink). I'm not prepared to anoint my Dawgs for anything in 2008 but I will go on the record as stating that I will be tremendously disappointed if the team regresses for reasons unrelated to the wear and tear of play and the bounce of the ball.
Gator2753
01-19-2008, 09:55 AM
do I think they will be solid yes, top 10 probably, but the hype they are getting is out of hand, thoughts agreements questions? I see UGA getting 3-4 losses next year partially due to their team and partially to their ridiculous schedule thats all
Color me unafraid :happy:
The Ramp
01-19-2008, 05:06 PM
And the last one.......uber talented LSU LOST to UK whom UGA beat by 11.
and UGA lost to Tenn and SCarl, both of which LSU beat
u gotta love circular logic
:thumpsup:
bamaboy
01-19-2008, 05:33 PM
[QUOTE=GetEmGamecocks;366708]I don't buy into the "hype" either. UGA deserves to be preseason top 5 because they finished last season so strong and are now more experienced, but I would almost bet a testicle that they don't make it to the NC.
i would definitely bet a testicle that they don't make it to the NC, but it would be one of yours and not mine. anything can happen.:whistle:
lacene
01-19-2008, 05:44 PM
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sad part is, you actually believe what you typed...
Having cued up some Robert Randolph & The Family Band to jam wid'.......
You ARE correct about preseason rankings and how speculative they are but did you know that not since Y2k has there been a swing and a miss on a team highly considered such that the team failed to even have a winning season? Recall who that was? (Hint: their fans more deluded than chikin fans!)
Please do not hijack this thread. The topic of this thread is about UGA, and whether they being a contender for the NC is "hype", or not. South Carolina has nothing to do with my discussions, nor with the thread topic. If the best argument you can provide to my points is "yeah? Well, your team teh sux!!" then you need to stay out of this discussion.....:whistle:
To answer your second paragraph: Over the last Decade, The University of Georgia is 97-30, good for #6 Nationally and the next SEC team(s) are UF & UT with 93 wins. It is thus a statistical LOCK that the Dawgs will challenge for every title in sight just as they did in '07 as well as being prominently ranked in the Top 15. Well, I don't know about any statistical lock here. You must have taken a sabbatical from the UGA football recently. By starting the SEC season with a loss to USC, and then falling to 2-2 in the SEC with their loss to UT, UGA was on the outside of the division looking in, for the rest of the season. They didn't challenge for any title: they challenged for the right to be left out of the SECC, and they won. Also, with their loss to UT, they extended a dubious streak of 6 straight losses to SEC East opponents, going back to '06, so they obviously didn't challenge that year either. You DO know we're talking about Georgia football the last 2 seasons, right??
Switching to Celtic Crush as I love the music of my ancestors...
As for your 3rd paragraph, if the Dawgs were not dominant as you contend, then how are double digit beatings of EVERY opponent but Vandy to be explained away as you have? Of the seven, Vandy, Troy, and GT were not ranked foes but all fell. Quote: Troy out-scored UGA in the 2nd half. Troy was already BEATEN in the FIRST HALF, 24-10. Richt mighta pulled the whoopass string a bit early but the Dawgs STILL scored AT WILL. As for your other bablings, IF a bullfrog had wings....
UGA never dominated any team - except GT and Hawaii, mind you - in that they never had easy control of the games until the closing minutes of the games. Or, that they might've had control, but then gave it up by allowing the opponent to close in. Against UF, UGA mostly held a 1-TD lead, and actually mostly less than that (21-17 at the half, 28-24 at the end of the 3rd), until they scored the last TD with less than 4 minutes to go. UK was within a TD and 2-pt. conversion of tieing the game, until the FG at the 2-minute mark. Hell, even GT was within a TD into the 4th quarter, so I guess you have to mark them off the list as well. Sorry, but I don't see the "dominance".
And your idea of UGA scoring "at will" against Troy in the first half is my best laugh for today: thank you. Did Knowshon fumble the ball away "at will" in the first qtr.? Did Southernland fumble the ball away "at will"? UGA had 10 offensive possessions in the 1st half, but punted 4 times, and turned the ball over 2 other times. And you say that was AT WILL??????? Then my friend, UGA stands no chance for '08. If it wasn't for the sequence where UGA scored a TD, then recovered the kick-off fumble on Troy's side of the field, then scored another TD - all in the final 2 minutes of the 1st half, then UGA would have lost to Troy. Troy out-scored UGA in the 2nd half, remember.....
Hmmm, I'm of Irish descendancy. I believe that point beat-down is what I call a "Celtic Crush". :ph34r:
Paragraph 4: Blah, blah, blahhhhhhhhhblahblah. UGA will be FAVORED vs. EVERY opponent on the schedule. And I hate it for y'all, but the Dawgs are going to annihilate you. Yes, the LSU-UF thing is tough but what's your point? Dawgs won 7 in a row to end '07 and look to keep the streak alive in '08. Oh, care to back up that UF remark with something besides cackling? Facts/stats/roster/depth chart.........Something.......
"blah blah blah"???? Thank you for winning my above point for me. If the only argument you have to offer is "blah blah", then you have no argument. And the UGA homers here last season said the same thing about USC, but we still beat ya'll on your field, and we played poorly doing it. "Blah blah blah".......yeah........
And the last one.......uber talented LSU LOST to UK whom UGA beat by 11. You're smoking crack if you believe what you typed. And uber talented LSU BEAT USC, who beat.......wait for it..........ya'll. So that means you're smoking hooch if you think this is a valid argument. Blah blah blah....blech.......
There are a special convergence of things which must occur for ANY team to reach and win the MNC game. Many things outside of a team's control must fall into place and it never hurts to have espn backing you (wink). I'm not prepared to anoint my Dawgs for anything in 2008 but I will go on the record as stating that I will be tremendously disappointed if the team regresses for reasons unrelated to the wear and tear of play and the bounce of the ball.
You learned this from the Discovery Channel, didn't you? You are amazing..... :closedeye
muttley1211
01-20-2008, 12:14 AM
Let's get back to the original statement.....
do you really think Georgia will lose 3 or 4 games?
I don't see 4 loses happening and I think 3 would be a disappointment.
I think the only other SEC team that could challenge us would be Florida. I am not saying that we couldn't lose to another team because in the SEC you have a chance to lose any game, but Florida is the only team that could challenge us for the East.
I think that us top three to start the season is not reaching too far. We ended the season playing pretty good. We return a lot of experienced talent. We got a lot of red-shirted talent and a couple true freshmen that will only help us.
I am not saying that we will win the MNC next year....I am not even saying we will make it, but most Georgia fans for the past year or two have thought that 2008 could be a very good year. It has been set up like we thought it would. A lot can happen though out the season, but I think we have a very good chance to make it to the MNC.
A little side note. For people who are saying they don't think we can make it to the MNC because of Stafford...if Florida can win it with Leak and LSU can win with Flynn, then I don't see a problem ;)
I'm going to go ahead and make a pre-season nomination for lacene as "biggest UGA hater of the year."
And we're back to the usual USC gamecock inferiority complex. I can't wait to watch you guys suffer in the cellar of the East again. The only question is, how long will it take for you guys to get put in your place this year? Not long... I imagine you cocky bastards won't be full of so much piss and vinegar when UGA gets done thrashing you in Columbia.
bulldawg
01-20-2008, 10:04 AM
08/30/08 Georgia Southern Eagles -- blow out
09/06/08 Central Michigan Chippewas -- blow out
09/13/08 at South Carolina Gamecocks -- revenge game UG domination
09/20/08 at Arizona State Sun Devils -- (sleeper cell) watch this one
09/27/08 Alabama Crimson Tide -- win
10/04/08 Open Date N/A
10/11/08 Tennessee Volunteers -- with bye week and last years game on our mind expect a UGA win big time
10/18/08 Vanderbilt Commodores -- win (but Vandy always comes to play)
10/25/08 at LSU Tigers -- time to seperate the men from the boys
11/01/08 Florida Gators (Jacksonville, FL) -- UGA make or break
11/08/08 at Kentucky Wildcats -- (UK needs to reload even though UGA will be banged up I see another W)
11/15/08 at Auburn Tigers -- tough game no matter what
11/22/08 Open Date N/A
11/29/08 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets -- If healthy win
12/06/08 SEC Championship (Atlanta, GA) -- rematch with LSU or Auburn
Now with all this said. the first two game SHOULD be big wins and a chance for the team to get the offense and defense rolling hard for the schedule to come. There will be plenty of hype if we are ranked high in the preseason and its up to Coach Richt to make sure the boys don't buy into that crap and remember they havn't beaten anyone yet. Expect big speeches and antics to hype the team up.
I see the LSU UF back to back as the make or break for UGA. National Champions are not built on weak schedules. If we want it bad enough then here is what we have to do in black and white. And I wouldn't want it any other way. LSU will be the kicker. Lose to LSU then UGA will be pissed and hellbent coming into the WLOCP. Win against LSU and the momentum should be rolling hard coming into the UF game. Either way this is the two game stretch to make men out of the boys.
USC will lose, Tenn we have a bye and we should be real healthy and playing with a really bad taste in our mouths from last years loss. Expect Richt to not call off the Dawgs and UGA wins big. I'm predicting the Arizona State game to be the crazy game of the year. For some reason I expect that they should not be taken lightly for any reason. Auburn, Alabama, South Carolina, and Tenn. are all very winable games if UGA plays with heart. UF will be the WAR. LSU will be a war also but can be avenged in the SEC championship game if we falter.
Now I just hope the boys stay in shape and come out of the gates ready to win next year. NO SLOW STARTS, we are famous for that and it bites us in the ass every time. UGA has the players and coaches to go all the way next year and a little good luck on our side won't hurt either. We just need to believe in ourselves and leave it all on the field. I also hope no other conference has an undefeated team due to a weak schedule that will clog up a place in the NC game. cough cough OHIO STATE cough cough
scfan5338
01-20-2008, 10:09 AM
UGA probably has the best team going into this year, but they're in the SEC so they'll be tested every single week. It's going to be a matter of can Stafford start the season the way he ends it. We saw last year and the year before that this kid's number were ridiculous towards the end of year. If Stafford can play well and the WR's help him out, there is no reason UGA won't be in the national title game next year.
bulldawg
01-20-2008, 10:19 AM
UGA probably has the best team going into this year, but they're in the SEC so they'll be tested every single week. It's going to be a matter of can Stafford start the season the way he ends it. We saw last year and the year before that this kid's number were ridiculous towards the end of year. If Stafford can play well and the WR's help him out, there is no reason UGA won't be in the national title game next year.
UGA needs to take it game by game next year. The players need to know we have a chance but it WILL be a hard hard fought road with alot of luck sprinkled in along the way.
I agre Stafford as well as the rest of the team need to come out of the gates swinging. No partying at races over the summer, just conditioning programs, rest, weights, and skill coaching and practice.
We also need Massaquoi to turn it up again this year and a good emergence of AJ Green and the other recievers.
Expect another running back out of our 5 deep roster to emerge and compete with Knowshon. This kind of in house rivalry will only help us in the long run.
EVERYONE STAY THE HELL OUT OF TROUBLE OVER THE SUMMER!!!!
CanineBacker
01-20-2008, 10:28 AM
08/30/08 Georgia Southern Eagles -- blow out
09/06/08 Central Michigan Chippewas -- blow out
09/13/08 at South Carolina Gamecocks -- revenge game UG domination
09/20/08 at Arizona State Sun Devils -- (sleeper cell) watch this one
09/27/08 Alabama Crimson Tide -- win
10/04/08 Open Date N/A
10/11/08 Tennessee Volunteers -- with bye week and last years game on our mind expect a UGA win big time
10/18/08 Vanderbilt Commodores -- win (but Vandy always comes to play)
10/25/08 at LSU Tigers -- time to seperate the men from the boys
11/01/08 Florida Gators (Jacksonville, FL) -- UGA make or break
11/08/08 at Kentucky Wildcats -- (UK needs to reload even though UGA will be banged up I see another W)
11/15/08 at Auburn Tigers -- tough game no matter what
11/22/08 Open Date N/A
11/29/08 Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets -- If healthy win
12/06/08 SEC Championship (Atlanta, GA) -- rematch with LSU or Auburn
Now with all this said. the first two game SHOULD be big wins and a chance for the team to get the offense and defense rolling hard for the schedule to come. There will be plenty of hype if we are ranked high in the preseason and its up to Coach Richt to make sure the boys don't buy into that crap and remember they havn't beaten anyone yet. Expect big speeches and antics to hype the team up.
I see the LSU UF back to back as the make or break for UGA. National Champions are not built on weak schedules. If we want it bad enough then here is what we have to do in black and white. And I wouldn't want it any other way. LSU will be the kicker. Lose to LSU then UGA will be pissed and hellbent coming into the WLOCP. Win against LSU and the momentum should be rolling hard coming into the UF game. Either way this is the two game stretch to make men out of the boys.
USC will lose, Tenn we have a bye and we should be real healthy and playing with a really bad taste in our mouths from last years loss. Expect Richt to not call off the Dawgs and UGA wins big. I'm predicting the Arizona State game to be the crazy game of the year. For some reason I expect that they should not be taken lightly for any reason. Auburn, Alabama, South Carolina, and Tenn. are all very winable games if UGA plays with heart. UF will be the WAR. LSU will be a war also but can be avenged in the SEC championship game if we falter.
Now I just hope the boys stay in shape and come out of the gates ready to win next year. NO SLOW STARTS, we are famous for that and it bites us in the ass every time. UGA has the players and coaches to go all the way next year and a little good luck on our side won't hurt either. We just need to believe in ourselves and leave it all on the field. I also hope no other conference has an undefeated team due to a weak schedule that will clog up a place in the NC game. cough cough OHIO STATE cough cough
A good, and realistic post with just one quibble. I don't see Arizona State even being in the game with UGA after the first quarter or so. Not a bad team, but their OL in '07 was on about the same level with Hawaii. Also, that Tatooed Love Boy of a QB they have really loses his cool and gets stupid when he gets some heat brought upon him. This combo spells doom for the Sun Devils. Frankly, I see South Carolina as a bigger threat.
ColonelKurtz
01-20-2008, 10:41 AM
and UGA lost to Tenn and SCarl, both of which LSU beat
u gotta love circular logic
:thumpsup:
Gotta love ignorant posters who lack the mental capacity to KEEP UP and remain within CONTEXT. LSU didn't win SEVEN in a row to finish the season did they? (The always FAIR Colonel allows da ramp to get several household members together so that enough fingers and toes are available to do the math.) Nope.
bulldawg
01-20-2008, 11:12 AM
A good, and realistic post with just one quibble. I don't see Arizona State even being in the game with UGA after the first quarter or so. Not a bad team, but their OL in '07 was on about the same level with Hawaii. Also, that Tatooed Love Boy of a QB they have really loses his cool and gets stupid when he gets some heat brought upon him. This combo spells doom for the Sun Devils. Frankly, I see South Carolina as a bigger threat.
I agree with everything you said. But I don't want our players to feel that way. Hell Oklahoma State was predicted to beat us at the beginning of the 07 season. They had the "best offense" according to ESPN and we embarresed them. But for some reason I keep looking at ASU on the schedule and thinking that could be a bad bump in the road if we don't prepare right for them. Completely different look than we are used to.
GamecockDieHard
01-20-2008, 11:13 AM
Last year I remember reading all the USCe posts about the Georgia game being the barometer of our season (including me). Not so. We always look to that game as a way to see how we do against top-notch talent. Beating Georgia last year meant nothing, except bragging rights over our Georgia friends for the year. I think Georgia looks at the game as a trap game. "We should win, we usually win, but odds are they'll get one every once in a while." If Georgia is to have any breathing room against LSU/UF back to back, they'll have to take care of business in Columbia. Since that game is usually close and because it means so much, I think it's a little ambitious to predict Georgia will dominate that game. Add in the fact that our new DC knows a little something about Georgia, and I suspect that's going to be a great one to watch.
bulldawg
01-20-2008, 11:25 AM
Understand that Spurrier has a true love /hate relationship with UGA that dates back to his playing years. With that said I expect him to bring it all when he plays UGA. Playing USC early in the season is an advantage for the Cocks. Much of the time we are still trying to gell our team together when we play. I just do not feel USC has the talent level to beat UGA again this year. The coaching is there but the athletes on the UGA side will be the deal breaker for USC. I feel last years game was one more lost by UGA than won by some kind of great play by the gamecocks. Look for a big double digit win by UGA in Columbia this year.
Don't misunderstand the post USC beating Georgia is way more than bragging rights for you it was an upset. If ya'll had beat LSU or FL or even won one of your last 5 games that might be true. But by no means was USC good enough to say that the georgia win was not a big upset.
I, for one, have been a humble Dawg fan this last decade. I have been very pleased about getting some SEC Championships. I have enjoyed seeing my boys in the top 10 consistently at the end of the year.
But I'm frustrated to not win the big one (or even get there for the chance)
Did we deserve it this year? NO! Had KY beaten TN & had we beat LSU, then yes. Had we beaten SC, then yes.
But we really didn't have a legitimate gripe this year. Watching LSU win 2, FL win 1 & AU win 1 (they deserve to be considered national champs more than the condoms of USCw) is bugging me.
Am I buying the hype? Hell yes! But I won't breath easy & I will really be wondering who is going to sneak up & knock us off the proverbial perch...
(not that a loss to most of our SEC opponents would be considered 'sneaking up on us' - just saying)
bulldawg
01-20-2008, 12:28 PM
I, for one, have been a humble Dawg fan this last decade. I have been very pleased about getting some SEC Championships. I have enjoyed seeing my boys in the top 10 consistently at the end of the year.
But I'm frustrated to not win the big one (or even get there for the chance)
Did we deserve it this year? NO! Had KY beaten TN & had we beat LSU, then yes. Had we beaten SC, then yes.
But we really didn't have a legitimate gripe this year. Watching LSU win 2, FL win 1 & AU win 1 (they deserve to be considered national champs more than the condoms of USCw) is bugging me.
Am I buying the hype? Hell yes! But I won't breath easy & I will really be wondering who is going to sneak up & knock us off the proverbial perch...
(not that a loss to most of our SEC opponents would be considered 'sneaking up on us' - just saying)
Agreed about the NC game. I believe that you should win your conference to be eligible to play. The problem I had with how it was handled is putting UGA 4th and saying if these teams lose your in. If LSU was more deserving then why rank us ahead of them at all. They teased a team that hasn't had a NC since 81 with a chance and then when it came around they said nope. You shouldn't tease desperate fans like that. Had georgia been ranked behind LSU in the polls before the SEC championship then there wouldn't have been any argument from the Bulldog Nation.
As far as 2008 we have a long road to fight through. We need to man up and finally bring another NC to UGA. We have a schedule worthy of that fight, we have the players, the coaches, the fanbase, and the heart. Its time to get it done.
CanineBacker
01-20-2008, 12:31 PM
I agree with everything you said. But I don't want our players to feel that way. Hell Oklahoma State was predicted to beat us at the beginning of the 07 season. They had the "best offense" according to ESPN and we embarresed them. But for some reason I keep looking at ASU on the schedule and thinking that could be a bad bump in the road if we don't prepare right for them. Completely different look than we are used to.
Well, I think the '08 team will have their collective mind right for all the games. They will be much more experienced this time around. Also, you are right about ASU being a similar type game going in as Oakie State was last year. The only difference is that it is the week after SC instead of the week before. This is a good thing I think.
bulldawg
01-20-2008, 12:35 PM
Well, I think the '08 team will have their collective mind right for all the games. They will be much more experienced this time around. Also, you are right about ASU being a similar type game going in as Oakie State was last year. The only difference is that it is the week after SC instead of the week before. This is a good thing I think.
Slow starts have killed us in the past few seasons. Now that Richt's evil alter ego has reered its head maybe that will change. The weak out of conference two game start up should get us gelled together and get things rolling as we go into Columbia for the Spurrier battle.
GA Southern will give us all we want. Sure, we'll win handily, but expect it to be a very physical & hard fought game.
Those boys are going be thinking 'App State' coming in. I think it may be a more interesting game than we want it to be...
And C. MI has been damn tough the last few years. Again, we should win handily, but we cannot take the chips for granted. It would make their season to knock us down. They are easily one of the strongest '2nd tier' teams out there (or at least they have been)
One of the stronger Div II (or BCS subdivision, or whatever the hell you call it anymore) teams, a very respectable 2nd tier upper division school, a team that will likely be towards the top of the PAC 10 & GA Tech - we have an incredible OOC schedule thrown in with the already brutal conference gauntlet.
We have our work cut out for us. Still though, I expect to be a happy BullDawg next year...
scfan5338
01-20-2008, 03:45 PM
The only difference is that it is the week after SC instead of the week before. This is a good thing I think.
I think this is good for both teams. UGA starts slowly frequently and this year USC will be bringing in a new QB. We get to prepare for the UGA by playing NCSU and Vandy. Usually we play Lousiana-Lafyetee or someone crappy like that. NCSU and Vandy can provide some competitives and bring out of the best from our team going into UGA. I think both teams will be very well prepared, more so than in the years past for this battle in Columbia. The game will be more exciting and close in my opinion (like it usually is).
Dmldawg782
01-21-2008, 11:49 AM
Tough schedule may keep us out of the big game. Two losses will not get anyone in this year. Surely, we can't have another crazy 2007 season, can we?
I wish our bye weeks were set up a little different. Too long of a break in between the TN game and GT game. That is tough once you see who we play in between. I personally think we are still a year away.
The USC game is going to be tough. Throw in the fact that Spurrier has them playing on back to back Thursdays before our game to give him a few extra days to prepare. What a sneaky SOB....
nellanaesp
01-21-2008, 12:25 PM
I'll go ahead and say this . . being a South Carolina fan, as much as I hate Georgia, They were one of the best teams in the nation at the end of the season. Richt did an amazing coaching job and the team could have put up a fight against anyone in the nation. Next year they will be a huge force in the SEC to compete with, and I can only hope the Gamecocks will challenge for the title . . again . .
geechee
01-21-2008, 12:58 PM
Stafford will have to step up big time and I just don't see that happening. Now I could be dead wrong and lord knows we here at Alabama have our own QB problems to worry about. Stafford is a solid QB, but is he good enough to lead UGA to a NC?
He went 11-2 behind a freshman offensive line that got better game by game. Football games are not won by QBs, RBs, and WRs. Football games are won by the teams who who have the most dominating linemen.
The Ramp
01-21-2008, 04:09 PM
Gotta love ignorant posters who lack the mental capacity to KEEP UP and remain within CONTEXT. LSU didn't win SEVEN in a row to finish the season did they? (The always FAIR Colonel allows da ramp to get several household members together so that enough fingers and toes are available to do the math.) Nope.
wow...resorting to personal attacks to win an arguement? pretty sad
let's see...is the season SEVEN games long? Nope. sounds like you need help with math....try and keep up (the always fair Ramp allows Colonel Sanders to go back and recount how many games are in a season). talk about ignorant????
bulldawg
01-21-2008, 05:14 PM
wow...resorting to personal attacks to win an arguement? pretty sad
let's see...is the season SEVEN games long? Nope. sounds like you need help with math....try and keep up (the always fair Ramp allows Colonel Sanders to go back and recount how many games are in a season). talk about ignorant????
I agree that UGA took a while into the season to gel into the team they were in the last 7 games. UGA's record was the same as LSU's and a stupid loss to USC/Tenn cost us the chance to beat LSU in the SEC championship game and a shot at the NC. But make no mistake about it if UGA was there they would have beat LSU. I'm confident of that.
With that said congrats LSU on bringing another NC home to the SEC. We will see you next year in Louisianna........:dry:
The Ramp
01-21-2008, 10:22 PM
I agree that UGA took a while into the season to gel into the team they were in the last 7 games. UGA's record was the same as LSU's and a stupid loss to USC/Tenn cost us the chance to beat LSU in the SEC championship game and a shot at the NC. But make no mistake about it if UGA was there they would have beat LSU. I'm confident of that.
With that said congrats LSU on bringing another NC home to the SEC. We will see you next year in Louisianna........:dry:
same thing happened to us in 2006. it took a while for us to find a running game and JR to find his groove
DavidTD
01-25-2008, 04:51 PM
Sorry for bringing this post back up but I have been gone for awhile and wanted to comment. :stickpoke
We all know this early, anything can happen. Injuries, academics, and a host of other things will have impacts on each game for each team this year. Sometimes it's not who's best, but who is healthy. We can't predict those things so I don't.
What I do know is that UGA played exactly like CMR predicted. He said we were very young, but very talented. Said it would take some games for the team get better, but by the end of the year he predicted Georgia would be a "very good football team".
Our young talent, especially our OL is what lost the SC and UT game IMO. SC's defense while healthy was pretty darn good with good size up front. More than our young puppies could handle. Richt also stated that until our OL and some other young talent matured, he was having to limit plays AND most importantly ask Stafford to do things he was not confortable with, and keep him away from doing what he did best. With maturity, would come more offense. Again, I think Richt was dead on.
I don't agree with some of the descriptions of Hawaii, GT and Auburn. All three teams were capable of beating many teams and remember Auburn also beat UF at Florida.
Coach Richt as part of the FSU coaching staff was 7-3-1 against UF. While he was part of the FSU staff, he also won 75% of his games. And remember this period includes the Spurrier Glory years at UF. Since Richt left FSU and became the head coach at UGA, FSU has fallen and UGA has risen. He is a very talented coach.
Goergia should open the 2008 season with a very strong team, provided all things expected materialize. They do have a tough season, but aside from the LSU and UF games, it is very winnable. I don't think UGA goes undefeated, even healthy all year without breaks and luck, but I do see them as a team everyone game plans for each week.
Lastly, with hopefully an OL that is stronger and more experienced, Stafford can do more of what he has done at the end of the season which is get back to doing more of what he is comfortable doing, being primarily a pocket style passer.
But still a long ways off...
Ralliartist
01-25-2008, 05:11 PM
I'm not gonna read all these pages. I'll just post my thoughts.
I think UGA will be the team to beat in the SEC next year. They play with such emotion and excitement. They SHOULD go all the way, as LSU did this year. But they play in the toughest conference in the nation. An 11-2 season before a bowl game is the easy pick. Up to 4 losses could happen though, but not likely. Undefeated is doubtful, but still possible. UGA should be a great team next year and would be a worth representation in the BCS title game.
My personal opinion is they go all the way, no more than 2 losses. But me thinks only 1 loss.
I'm not gonna read all these pages. I'll just post my thoughts.
I think UGA will be the team to beat in the SEC next year. They play with such emotion and excitement. They SHOULD go all the way, as LSU did this year. But they play in the toughest conference in the nation. An 11-2 season before a bowl game is the easy pick. Up to 4 losses could happen though, but not likely. Undefeated is doubtful, but still possible. UGA should be a great team next year and would be a worth representation in the BCS title game.
My personal opinion is they go all the way, no more than 2 losses. But me thinks only 1 loss.
And ^ this coming from a self-admitted UGA hater!
ColonelKurtz
01-26-2008, 12:04 PM
Let's get back to the original statement.....
do you really think Georgia will lose 3 or 4 games?
I don't see 4 loses happening and I think 3 would be a disappointment.
I think the only other SEC team that could challenge us would be Florida. I am not saying that we couldn't lose to another team because in the SEC you have a chance to lose any game, but Florida is the only team that could challenge us for the East.
I think that us top three to start the season is not reaching too far. We ended the season playing pretty good. We return a lot of experienced talent. We got a lot of red-shirted talent and a couple true freshmen that will only help us.
I am not saying that we will win the MNC next year....I am not even saying we will make it, but most Georgia fans for the past year or two have thought that 2008 could be a very good year. It has been set up like we thought it would. A lot can happen though out the season, but I think we have a very good chance to make it to the MNC.
A litt