View Full Version : Buckeyes don't stand a chance againist the Tigers in the NC game
KillerNut
12-06-2007, 11:05 AM
This guy gets my vote for media idiot of the year.
Opinion: LSU caught breaks, but won’t need them now - College football- msnbc.com (http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/22072610/)
I love this stuff.
Keep it coming, media, PLEASE.
If tOSU loses, then no biggie. You were right.
But if they manage to find a way to perform the ULTIMATE miracle and beat LSU, I can guarantee you...OSU fans will have some fun. I think I can't wait for the game. Sick of all this talk about everything with how LSU is going to kill OSU. Let's get on the field already. Way too long of a wait.
GatorBait15
12-06-2007, 11:09 AM
This guy gets my vote for media idiot of the year.
Opinion: LSU caught breaks, but won’t need them now - College football- msnbc.com (http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/22072610/)
I love this stuff.
Keep it coming, media, PLEASE.
If tOSU loses, then no biggie. You were right.
But if they manage to find a way to perform the ULTIMATE miracle and beat LSU, I can guarantee you...OSU fans will have some fun. I think I can't wait for the game. Sick of all this talk about everything with how LSU is going to kill OSU. Let's get on the field already. Way too long of a wait.
Well I can smell a upset even though I am hoping LSU wins, but because of everyone bringing OSU down they are offended an will come to play...
BAMAPERRY
12-06-2007, 11:12 AM
Ohio St. will win this game.
Tennessee Ted
12-06-2007, 11:15 AM
The time off will help LSU more than OSU, but LSU has been skating by lately. Ohio St. may not have had the toughest schedule, but they have convincingly beat everyone, so there is no doubt they are a good team. This game could go either way.
GTmorris1970
12-06-2007, 11:34 AM
LSU has been living on the edge for several weeks now. If I were Les Miles I would be concerned.
ugamcrae
12-06-2007, 12:18 PM
The Mighty Nutz match-up well against the Tigers. You can bet your ass it won't be a blowout by LSU. Look no further than the arkansas game to see how to beat LSU. They obviously have a hard time stopping a team that is not afraid to be physical and who thrives on running the ball right at them. Not to mention LSU has a hard time moving the ball against a team with a really stout defense. This pretty much describes OSU to a T. With all of the anti OSU hype in the media, I bet the Nutz come out with a chip on their shoulders and punch the injured Tigers in the mouth. Teams who are bad mouthed in the press always play like a demon.
the Paradox
12-06-2007, 12:58 PM
The time off will help LSU more than OSU, but LSU has been skating by lately. Ohio St. may not have had the toughest schedule, but they have convincingly beat everyone, so there is no doubt they are a good team. This game could go either way.
Ron Zook disagrees.
RTR
geechee
12-06-2007, 01:09 PM
But if they manage to find a way to perform the ULTIMATE miracle and beat LSU, I can guarantee you...OSU fans will have some fun.
It would not take a miracle for OSU to win this game. LSU was taken to triple overtime twice by teams that are not as good as OSU is. Of course with a month off it will give the Tigers a chance to heal a few injuries and this in itself could make the difference.
GOOOOOOOOOO DOGS!!!!!!
GEAUX LSU!!!!!
DEHIII
12-06-2007, 01:39 PM
If LSU puts it all together, I don't think any team can stay with them. Of course they have only done it one time this year: VT.
I think OSU will come out fighting and I wouldn't be suprised a bit if they won. I don't have the greatest opinion of Miles as a gameday coach. OSU could certainly pull the upset. I think this will be a far different game then what we saw last year. Hell I think that works in OSU's favor because you know they have something to prove.
I will be pulling for LSU but wouldn't be too upset if OSU won. The ONLY reason I say that is because I don't really like the Mad Hatter i.e. Les Miles. :laugh:
azamugg
12-06-2007, 01:43 PM
This guy gets my vote for media idiot of the year.
Opinion: LSU caught breaks, but won’t need them now - College football- msnbc.com (http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/22072610/)
I love this stuff.
Keep it coming, media, PLEASE.
If tOSU loses, then no biggie. You were right.
But if they manage to find a way to perform the ULTIMATE miracle and beat LSU, I can guarantee you...OSU fans will have some fun. I think I can't wait for the game. Sick of all this talk about everything with how LSU is going to kill OSU. Let's get on the field already. Way too long of a wait.
WOW, I just had a deja'vu
azamugg
12-06-2007, 01:47 PM
If LSU puts it all together, I don't think any team can stay with them. Of course they have only done it one time this year: VT.
I think OSU will come out fighting and I wouldn't be suprised a bit if they won. I don't have the greatest opinion of Miles as a gameday coach. OSU could certainly pull the upset. I think this will be a far different game then what we saw last year. Hell I think that works in OSU's favor because you know they have something to prove.
I will be pulling for LSU but wouldn't be too upset if OSU won. The ONLY reason I say that is because I don't really like the Mad Hatter i.e. Les Miles. :laugh:
I enjoy your posts DEH but hell that statements true of alot of D1 teams.........losing twice and coming one play from losing to AU, Fla, and the Tide, they have definitely proven anyone can play with them, they seem to be dysfunctional in spite of their talent and folks that makes me think of a saying (to all LSU fans) "Sometimes you get what you ask for"
GatorBait15
12-06-2007, 01:50 PM
I enjoy your posts DEH but hell that statements true of alot of D1 teams.........losing twice and coming one play from losing to AU and the Tide, they have definitely proven anyone can play with them, they seem to be dysfunctional in spite of their talent and folks that makes me think of a saying (to all LSU fans) "Sometimes you get what you ask for"
I will agree with you after you add UF to that statment...''4th down td to win the game''
azamugg
12-06-2007, 01:52 PM
I will agree with you after you add UF to that statment...''4th down td to win the game''
done.......
FightinTiger71
12-06-2007, 01:59 PM
1 month and 1 day till we see the Tigers' real stripes or if Ohio State has more nuts than people think they do
GatorBait15
12-06-2007, 02:02 PM
This guy gets my vote for media idiot of the year.
Opinion: LSU caught breaks, but won’t need them now - College football- msnbc.com (http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/22072610/)
I love this stuff.
Keep it coming, media, PLEASE.
If tOSU loses, then no biggie. You were right.
But if they manage to find a way to perform the ULTIMATE miracle and beat LSU, I can guarantee you...OSU fans will have some fun. I think I can't wait for the game. Sick of all this talk about everything with how LSU is going to kill OSU. Let's get on the field already. Way too long of a wait.
well you can't tell anymore, if Pitt can be WVU and Stanford can beat USC, App st. can beat Mich...then anyone can beat anyone : )
jthomas666
12-06-2007, 02:07 PM
As long as Les Miles has the ability to make a stupid decision, OSU will have a chance to win.
geechee
12-06-2007, 02:08 PM
well you can't tell anymore, if Pitt can be WVU and Stanford can beat USC, App st. can beat Mich...then anyone can beat anyone : )
I would not put an OSU win over LSU in the same category as the above.
GatorBait15
12-06-2007, 02:10 PM
I would not put an OSU win over LSU in the same category as the above.
Thats by far not what I ment it as...I ment it as whats the point of predictions anything can happen!
geechee
12-06-2007, 02:14 PM
Thats by far not what I ment it as...I ment it as whats the point of predictions anything can happen!
Oh yea? Can Michigan beat UF? I don't think so.
GatorBait15
12-06-2007, 02:16 PM
Dude I think anything can happen...and thats proven!
geechee
12-06-2007, 02:19 PM
Dude I think anything can happen...and thats proven!
Can a leopard change it's spots?
GatorBait15
12-06-2007, 02:23 PM
w/e dude you are acting dumb: /
geechee
12-06-2007, 02:26 PM
w/e dude you are acting dumb: /
You just stated that it is proven that anything can happen. That is dumb. I was just pointing out that a leopard can't change its spots and Michigan can not stop the spread offense:whistle:
GatorBait15
12-06-2007, 02:29 PM
doesn't mean they can't outscore us not saying they will or want them to, but yeah I think a leopord can change it's spot if god wanted it too. the point is this year has been wild anyone can beat anyone and if you don't think so then you dont watch much football.
geechee
12-06-2007, 02:30 PM
doesn't mean they can't outscore us not saying they will or want them to, but yeah I think a leopord can change it's spot if god wanted it too. the point is this year has been wild anyone can beat anyone and if you don't think so then you dont watch much football.
Speaking of dumb posts...........................
GatorBait15
12-06-2007, 02:31 PM
yeah you are being stupid.....
Tennessee Ted
12-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Ron Zook disagrees.
RTR
Right, the correct wording should have been all of their wins have been done in convincing fashion.
KillerNut
12-06-2007, 02:57 PM
Hey, anything can happen. Michigan "could" beat Florida in this year of upsets, will they....NO. Michigan will be able to run the ball on Florida but Michigan has no answer to stop Tebow and the spread. Florida by 4 touchdowns easily IMHO.
You know Tressel is going to watch endless amounts of LSU tape to make a great gameplan. He wants to make up for the embarrassment last year. And as long as we have idiots in the media dogging the Buckeyes, its going to give them more and more motivation. 7 of the 9 BCS title games have been won by the underdog. Those are pretty good odds and right now LSU is a 4.5 point favorite.
DEHIII
12-06-2007, 03:01 PM
I enjoy your posts DEH but hell that statements true of alot of D1 teams.........losing twice and coming one play from losing to AU, Fla, and the Tide, they have definitely proven anyone can play with them, they seem to be dysfunctional in spite of their talent and folks that makes me think of a saying (to all LSU fans) "Sometimes you get what you ask for"
I see what you are saying. Let me be clear that if every team played their best game and put it all together, I think LSU would beat every single one of them by a handy margain.
I personally think OSU will play a good game and very well could win. LSU is undisciplined (sp?) and who knows what you are giong to get. As you hinted, I wonder where they get that attitude from? :laugh:
geechee
12-06-2007, 03:04 PM
I see what you are saying. Let me be clear that if every team played their best game and put it all together, I think LSU would beat every single one of them by a handy margain.
Au contre!
Wow, I've been able to use that phrase twice today:laugh:
Tennessee Ted
12-06-2007, 03:09 PM
Au contre!
Wow, I've been able to use that phrase twice today:laugh:
Tres bien Geechee.
Roscoe
12-06-2007, 03:22 PM
You know... LSU has a lot to prove, too, it's not like they're gonna show up half asleep. I think they want to prove that they can be dominant on the field again. Because as a whole, the season has been a let down for everyone.
Chances ARE... the lsu players don't even read all this crap, so it won't affect the way they play.
Our boys know they've skated by and are lucky as hell to even be in the game, so don't think the hype is gonna sink in. If they don't play like they did against VT, it's gonna be a long night, but I have a feeling the beast is going to reappear.
GeauxTo
12-06-2007, 03:43 PM
This guy gets my vote for media idiot of the year.
Opinion: LSU caught breaks, but won’t need them now - College football- msnbc.com (http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/22072610/)
This guy is far from an idiot. He has pegged it exactly. Only you and UGA fans would think him erroneous. Great article, in my book.
:thumbs:
GeauxTo
12-06-2007, 03:49 PM
Au contre!
Wow, I've been able to use that phrase twice today:laugh:
Vous êtes si sourd-muet, cher!
geechee
12-06-2007, 03:59 PM
This guy is far from an idiot. He has pegged it exactly. Only you and UGA fans would think him erroneous. Great article, in my book.
:thumbs:
Naw, we Jawja crackers can't use big words such as erroneous:laugh:
GeauxTo
12-06-2007, 04:08 PM
Naw, we Jawja crackers can't use big words such as erroneous:laugh:
Or "these, them, and those" in the correct tense.
:D
geechee
12-06-2007, 04:33 PM
Or "these, them, and those" in the correct tense.
:D
We can use this them words as good as any Cajun or South Carolina beauty queen.
GeauxTo
12-06-2007, 04:38 PM
We can use this them words as good as any Cajun or South Carolina beauty queen.
We say "dees, dem, and dose" most of the time; unless we are drinking, then we get it right. (So, as you can imagine, we are getting it right most of the time because we are...).
:tongue:
geechee
12-06-2007, 04:43 PM
We say "dees, dem, and dose" most of the time; unless we are drinking, then we get it right. (So, as you can imagine, we are getting it right most of the time because we are...).
:tongue:
I'd be willing to bet that you would be one helluva guy to go drinking with:laugh:
GatorHunter
12-06-2007, 05:50 PM
This guy gets my vote for media idiot of the year.
Opinion: LSU caught breaks, but won’t need them now - College football- msnbc.com (http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/22072610/)
I love this stuff.
Keep it coming, media, PLEASE.
If tOSU loses, then no biggie. You were right.
But if they manage to find a way to perform the ULTIMATE miracle and beat LSU, I can guarantee you...OSU fans will have some fun. I think I can't wait for the game. Sick of all this talk about everything with how LSU is going to kill OSU. Let's get on the field already. Way too long of a wait.
The Gators must've really beat up the Tigers because they haven't played a "good" game since playing Florida. When I saw LSU beat the heck out of V-Tech...I thought, well...I was wrong...LSU is the real deal. But since the Gators left BR...LSU has been very beatable. They've lost 2 and could've lost many more. I chalk it up to injuries...at least, that's what I hope.
Everybody knows that the Bucks have had a pretty easy row to hoe in getting to the title game...the BigX was a one team conference. Illinois snuck into the BCS, but I'm pretty certain them beating OSU was a fluke. There's two major advantages for OSU...1: they only had to beat a couple of teams to make it into the BCS CG...and 2: cupcake schedule=fewer injuries. f$u made a living playing these type schedules for years until the ACC brought in BC, VTech and Miami.
That said, OSU will be a formidable opponent and LSU will have to do something they haven't done but a couple times this season to win...bring their "A" game.
KillerNut
12-06-2007, 09:45 PM
This guy is far from an idiot. He has pegged it exactly. Only you and UGA fans would think him erroneous. Great article, in my book.
:thumbs:
Figures. If you do some research on that author Geaux, you'll find that he is from Tampa, FL - a florida boy, what do you expect. We'll see what happens on the 7th of January. To be honest with you all, almost all of the tOSU boards have been extremely quiet thus far and seems to say that we aren't running our mouth this year.
KillerNut
12-06-2007, 09:48 PM
The Gators must've really beat up the Tigers because they haven't played a "good" game since playing Florida. When I saw LSU beat the heck out of V-Tech...I thought, well...I was wrong...LSU is the real deal. But since the Gators left BR...LSU has been very beatable. They've lost 2 and could've lost many more. I chalk it up to injuries...at least, that's what I hope.
Everybody knows that the Bucks have had a pretty easy row to hoe in getting to the title game...the BigX was a one team conference. Illinois snuck into the BCS, but I'm pretty certain them beating OSU was a fluke. There's two major advantages for OSU...1: they only had to beat a couple of teams to make it into the BCS CG...and 2: cupcake schedule=fewer injuries. f$u made a living playing these type schedules for years until the ACC brought in BC, VTech and Miami.
That said, OSU will be a formidable opponent and LSU will have to do something they haven't done but a couple times this season to win...bring their "A" game.
tOSU matches up better with LSU than they do UGA or UF. Ohio State fans won't let the Superdome be a strictly LSU crowd. We have the best traveling fan base of any team in the country. The stadium might be 50/50 as far as fans but there will be an addition 30,000+ outside the stadium during the game.
timNem
12-06-2007, 10:07 PM
LSU won't have the underdog factor that UF had last year, plus OSU remembers the ambush they received last year and likely won't go into this game with inflated egos. I think it will be a tough, down to the wire game.
bbqit
12-07-2007, 06:20 AM
If the game was won on paper I would know Lsu would win. Since it aint, this wouldn't be the first time an upset happened. Come on, Ohio St is no App St but they have a chance to win. With all the upsets in college football this year even Georgia should take notice that these bowls can reshuffle the top twenty quick.
GatorChomp
12-07-2007, 09:40 AM
tOSU matches up better with LSU than they do UGA or UF. Ohio State fans won't let the Superdome be a strictly LSU crowd. We have the best traveling fan base of any team in the country. The stadium might be 50/50 as far as fans but there will be an addition 30,000+ outside the stadium during the game.
Not sure about best traveling fan base, although I know from experience they aren't bad. I was at the game last year and I swear before the game there were a lot of Ohio State fans. I would say there were 3 for every gator fan outside the stadium. In the stadium they also held a majority, but not as big as it was outside. Before the game they were all running their mouths too, that ended quickly.
ugamcrae
12-07-2007, 12:18 PM
If the game was won on paper I would know Lsu would win. Since it aint, this wouldn't be the first time an upset happened. Come on, Ohio St is no App St but they have a chance to win. With all the upsets in college football this year even Georgia should take notice that these bowls can reshuffle the top twenty quick.
If we didn't get bumped back to 5 and then get stuck with playing number 10, I would agree with you. We have no shot at the top three now. And that is a crime because we would thump most of the teams in the top 5.
FanSmack
12-15-2007, 01:01 AM
This guy gets my vote for media idiot of the year.
Opinion: LSU caught breaks, but won’t need them now - College football- msnbc.com (http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/22072610/)
I love this stuff.
Keep it coming, media, PLEASE.
If tOSU loses, then no biggie. You were right.
But if they manage to find a way to perform the ULTIMATE miracle and beat LSU, I can guarantee you...OSU fans will have some fun. I think I can't wait for the game. Sick of all this talk about everything with how LSU is going to kill OSU. Let's get on the field already. Way too long of a wait.
You all are the UF of last year IMO. I can't help but think OSU will be ready for this game. LSU has squeaked by a lot of their games and I just don't see them winning.
GatorNation
12-15-2007, 06:57 AM
The break will hurt tOSU again....and it only helps LSU heal up. A healthy LSU team (Flynn, Dorsey, etc.) against a Buckeye team (with less talent) that has to be thinking about '06...?
LSU > 10
I'd send Holliday on go-routes all night. Tressel doesn't have anyone who can keep up with him.
JerryBeeds
12-15-2007, 07:19 AM
I watched that OSU v. Mich game and I have to say that OSU better have faster players than that if they want to compete in this game.
LSU PRIDE
12-15-2007, 07:20 AM
I think we should be good.. but hey u never know.. ima Stick to what i said before the season and that is .. LSU wont lose no games to Non SEC teams..
gatorunvrsty
12-15-2007, 07:46 AM
I watched that OSU v. Mich game and I have to say that OSU better have faster players than that if they want to compete in this game.
I watched a couple of tOSU games; and you're right, their defense is going to be in a lot of trouble again if LSU brings a game plan that allows their skill players with world-class speed to get the ball in space. It appears to me that they could run the same kind of ball-control offense UF ran last season with lots of underneath and crossing routes in the middle, and those guys can just run around in there all night. tOSU's LB's may be hosses in Big 10 ball, where size and strength is a must; but guys like LaFell, Holliday, Doucet, and Tolliver are going to be huge mismatches, and be able to run circles around the lumbering middle. I also don't believe they'll be able to just load up with 5 or 6 DB's all the time to prevent it, because LSU has 2 great RB's. LSU's defense may not be as dominant as UF's was last year, so the Buckeyes will probably put up more than 14 points and 82 yards of total offense; but, I just don't think they'll be able to stop LSU from scoring, as much as LSU will be able to stop them. I'm calling a score of something like LSU 34 - tOSU 27.
crawfish
12-15-2007, 12:39 PM
If we didn't get bumped back to 5 and then get stuck with playing number 10, I would agree with you. We have no shot at the top three now. And that is a crime because we would thump most of the teams in the top 5.
I guess the world will never know. I feel your pain and frustration. It's tough being on the outside just looking in. The Tennessee blowout and a late season fading South Carolina team ended up being a killer for you guys. I guess the only way to get through this, as a Georgia fan, is to have your coach's attitude: "I had more fun this year than in any year that I've coached football." Well, look at it like this, the good news is that your Bulldawgs will "possibly" be ranked in "that top 3" in all the preseason polls in 2008, especially if the focus is still there against Hawaii. The SEC will be pulling for you guys to take care of business come Sugar time!
lacene
12-15-2007, 01:03 PM
The break will hurt tOSU again....and it only helps LSU heal up. A healthy LSU team (Flynn, Dorsey, etc.) against a Buckeye team (with less talent) that has to be thinking about '06...?
LSU > 10
I'd send Holliday on go-routes all night. Tressel doesn't have anyone who can keep up with him.
I agree with this post. The big question is how does the break before the game affect each team: last season, the 50+ days off hurt OSU. They get that many days again.....will Tressel know how to counter the long break this time, and keep his team focused and hungry??
And while LSU's time off is less, they were really dragging emotionally by the end of the season, IMO, not including all the injuries that diminished their explosiveness. They should come to the NCG far more healthy, and I think with some of that fire and enthusiasm that they had in the first of the season. They only have to play one game this time, not an entire grueling season through a merciless SEC schedule.
If the NCG was played the following Saturday after the SECCG, OSU would've probably won easily. After the break, their chances have diminished greatly, IMO......
vandyfan84
12-15-2007, 01:52 PM
this situation is becoming all to familiar. Does anyone smell the 2006 NC game? People were saying OSU in a blowout, and look at what happened. Now it's the other way around and it's scary. As much as I want LSU to win, I don't know if it is in the cards....
vandyfan84
12-15-2007, 01:59 PM
also, will doucet, Dorsey, and Co. be healthy? Who will start, Flynn or Perriloux? These will be huge factors in the game IMO.
lacene
12-15-2007, 01:59 PM
You can say that again.......
vandyfan84
12-15-2007, 02:01 PM
You can say that again.......
is this in reference to my double post? something happened with my wireless and I hit submit twice I think, and well it posted twice.
crawfish
12-15-2007, 02:51 PM
this situation is becoming all to familiar. Does anyone smell the 2006 NC game? People were saying OSU in a blowout, and look at what happened. Now it's the other way around and it's scary. As much as I want LSU to win, I don't know if it is in the cards....
Just can finishing talking to a lone LSU buddy at a grocery store here in Arky while finishing up my "honeydew jobs"; and we were discussing this very point. And yeah, that might be a possibility, but all I'm hearing out of my connections (atletic trainers) around the team right now is...that the players aren't even thinking about a blowout, but that they are focused on going out and proving to the nation that they belong in this game. The buzz word around the team is "respect." And if that is the case, the Tigers will have the opportunity to do very well and compete to their potential. I can assure you that around my circle of Tiger fans, we're expecting this to be a very good game, and I doubt either team will blow the other team out. But VF84, you are right, if LSU buys into that thought like OSU did last year, we're in major trouble and will probably lose. But if what I'm hearing is true, we could see the same team that lined up against VT.....and that's what we as Tiger fans are hoping for come January 7th in New Orleans.
crawfish
12-15-2007, 02:57 PM
also, will doucet, Dorsey, and Co. be healthy? Who will start, Flynn or Perriloux? These will be huge factors in the game IMO.
LSU will be in great shape health-wise for Ohio State. Matt Flynn, Glenn Dorsey, Doucet, Darry Beckwith and Craig Steltz should be back at full speed. We're receiving mix reports on Keiland Williams, but most say that Williams will play in the game. If Williams cannot go, Trindon Holliday, Charles Scott and Richard Murphy might get a few more carries. Jacob Hester will receive most of the carries as he did during the regular season. I look for the Tigers to go with Flynn most of the game with Perriloux coming in probably a series every quarter. OSU is having to prepare for both QBs...that's a good thing! Look for Flynn to run the ball like he did so effectively earlier in the season. It's going to be good to see this team finally healthy again.
GatorNation
12-15-2007, 05:30 PM
LSU will be in great shape health-wise for Ohio State. Matt Flynn, Glenn Dorsey, Doucet, Darry Beckwith and Craig Steltz should be back at full speed. We're receiving mix reports on Keiland Williams, but most say that Williams will play in the game. If Williams cannot go, Trindon Holliday, Charles Scott and Richard Murphy might get a few more carries. Jacob Hester will receive most of the carries as he did during the regular season. I look for the Tigers to go with Flynn most of the game with Perriloux coming in probably a series every quarter. OSU is having to prepare for both QBs...that's a good thing! Look for Flynn to run the ball like he did so effectively earlier in the season. It's going to be good to see this team finally healthy again.
I agree with this post. The big question is how does the break before the game affect each team: last season, the 50+ days off hurt OSU. They get that many days again.....will Tressel know how to counter the long break this time, and keep his team focused and hungry??
And while LSU's time off is less, they were really dragging emotionally by the end of the season, IMO, not including all the injuries that diminished their explosiveness. They should come to the NCG far more healthy, and I think with some of that fire and enthusiasm that they had in the first of the season. They only have to play one game this time, not an entire grueling season through a merciless SEC schedule.
If the NCG was played the following Saturday after the SECCG, OSU would've probably won easily. After the break, their chances have diminished greatly, IMO......
I agree with all of this....
I think we're going to see the LSU team that beat VTech. I do think Tressel will use his time a bit better this time around, but in the end, he still can't simulate the speed and power in practice.
I like Mark May's confidence pick....he gave it a 30.
GetEmGamecocks
12-15-2007, 05:40 PM
Them Big Ten boys aint gonna be able to handle LSU's speed and physical nature.
nellanaesp
12-15-2007, 10:11 PM
Ohio State doesn't stand a chance against the SEC. Shoot, i'd pick ole miss to beat them.
Tider27
12-15-2007, 10:22 PM
Ohio State doesn't stand a chance against the SEC. Shoot, i'd pick ole miss to beat them.
Ok...now your just exaggerating.
GatorBait15
12-15-2007, 11:12 PM
MSU stands a chance though.
nellanaesp
12-15-2007, 11:30 PM
Ok...now your just exaggerating.
Yeah, just a little :unsure:
KillerNut
12-16-2007, 07:45 AM
Wow, I guess you'll see what were all about come Jan 7th. I don't think this Buckeye team is going to be overconfident like last year. You'll see when these guys come out that they have something to prove and if you think that we don't have fast DB's that can cover Doucet and Co. you are mistaken. I certainly hope that all LSU fans and the LSU team think like this leading up to the NC game. IMHO, Crawfish has been the only logical level-headed poster on here when it comes to this subject. Everyone here likes to automatically refer back to the NC game last year which I think is ludacris. But this is also starting to sound a lot like the 2002 game vs. Miami FL in which their speed and athleticism was supposed to be to great for us and they were a 30 point favorite. Keep on hating and I'll just wait until the 7th. Better believe that this tOSU team knows what they are going up againist and Tressel will be prepared this time.
Yea, I don't think either team gets blown out. Of course I think LSU should and will win, but you never know.
GatorNation
12-16-2007, 02:20 PM
Wow, I guess you'll see what were all about come Jan 7th. I don't think this Buckeye team is going to be overconfident like last year. You'll see when these guys come out that they have something to prove and if you think that we don't have fast DB's that can cover Doucet and Co. you are mistaken. I certainly hope that all LSU fans and the LSU team think like this leading up to the NC game. IMHO, Crawfish has been the only logical level-headed poster on here when it comes to this subject. Everyone here likes to automatically refer back to the NC game last year which I think is ludacris. But this is also starting to sound a lot like the 2002 game vs. Miami FL in which their speed and athleticism was supposed to be to great for us and they were a 30 point favorite. Keep on hating and I'll just wait until the 7th. Better believe that this tOSU team knows what they are going up againist and Tressel will be prepared this time.
There are a few reasons the Tigers will win this game. You may think my opinion is SEC homerism, so here is a list of reasons why LSU will win.
1. Florida
I don't care who you are, but last year's game has to play a role in the psyche of those Buckeyes still on the roster. Once a buck misses tackle in the open field or the OT gets blown by for a sack, the old "here-we-go-again" thoughts are going to sneak in and create some problems. Believe it or not, Buckeye players (and coaches) need things to go well right from the beginning in order to build some of that much-needed confidence. This team is less talented than last season, and Tressel is 0-8 against the SEC. I think our WRs were better in '06 than LSU's group overall this year, but Flynn is much more dangerous overall than Leak was....he can run, and that is going to create more problems for the Buckeye DC trying to scheme against the Tigers.
2. Spread offense
Meyer's offense ran up 41 points. Ilinois, who shouldn't be in a BCS bowl, ran a spread offense on their way to beating tOSU in Columbus this season. LSU uses a multiple offense (depending on when they want to power with Hester), but there are spread elements with lots of speed. That matchup will cause the Buckeyes problems. No one will be able to cover Holliday, and tOSU DC seems to approach defending the spread with an either/or mentality: blitz/man or a 30 zone. Defeating multiple receiver sets involves, among other things, being creative on defense. On the whole, teams in the Big 10(+1) don't really need to be creative. The one time tOSU did need to be creative, they lost.
3. Home game for LSU
You may not think it's a big deal, but playing in New Orleans will greatly benefit LSU. Forget the 2002 Orange Bowl. scUM fans are arguable the worst in the nation. This will be much, much different. Not only will it be a benefit on the field in terms of noise/audibles, but it will create an emotional lift for the team when they need it. tOSU won't have that benefit available to them.
4. Time to heal
The two most important players on this LSU team, Flynn and Dorsey, will be healed, rested, and ready to go. Not good news for the Buckeyes. The weekly grind of the SEC took its toll throughout the course of the season, and now we'll see the team that started the season against MSU and VTech. Tressel may feel the need to practice too much during the break, risking injury and fatigue for his team. Can sweater-vest find the perfect balance of rest and preparation? It's possible, but it's not likely. And no matter what game planning JT uses, he still cannot simulate the speed and power in practice.
5. Tested and tried
LSU, like many teams in the SEC this year, has been though some wars. Last-play victories, 4th-down conversions, OT battles...this LSU team is better tested and more experienced in crunch time. They believe they can win any game, no matter the amount of time on the clock or what the scoreboard shows. They've also had more experience defending different offensive attacks, which will make it more difficult for tOSU to surprise Miles & Co. on offense. In-game adjustments will be huge for the Buckeyes, and the Tigers are better prepared for changes on the fly. Also, if there is one thing Pellini can do well, it's blitz. tOSU will not be prepared for the varied, versatile attack that Bo Peep will devise.
KillerNut
12-16-2007, 03:24 PM
There are a few reasons the Tigers will win this game. You may think my opinion is SEC homerism, so here is a list of reasons why LSU will win.
1. Florida
I don't care who you are, but last year's game has to play a role in the psyche of those Buckeyes still on the roster. Once a buck misses tackle in the open field or the OT gets blown by for a sack, the old "here-we-go-again" thoughts are going to sneak in and create some problems. Believe it or not, Buckeye players (and coaches) need things to go well right from the beginning in order to build some of that much-needed confidence. This team is less talented than last season, and Tressel is 0-8 against the SEC. I think our WRs were better in '06 than LSU's group overall this year, but Flynn is much more dangerous overall than Leak was....he can run, and that is going to create more problems for the Buckeye DC trying to scheme against the Tigers.
2. Spread offense
Meyer's offense ran up 41 points. Ilinois, who shouldn't be in a BCS bowl, ran a spread offense on their way to beating tOSU in Columbus this season. LSU uses a multiple offense (depending on when they want to power with Hester), but there are spread elements with lots of speed. That matchup will cause the Buckeyes problems. No one will be able to cover Holliday, and tOSU DC seems to approach defending the spread with an either/or mentality: blitz/man or a 30 zone. Defeating multiple receiver sets involves, among other things, being creative on defense. On the whole, teams in the Big 10(+1) don't really need to be creative. The one time tOSU did need to be creative, they lost.
3. Home game for LSU
You may not think it's a big deal, but playing in New Orleans will greatly benefit LSU. Forget the 2002 Orange Bowl. scUM fans are arguable the worst in the nation. This will be much, much different. Not only will it be a benefit on the field in terms of noise/audibles, but it will create an emotional lift for the team when they need it. tOSU won't have that benefit available to them.
4. Time to heal
The two most important players on this LSU team, Flynn and Dorsey, will be healed, rested, and ready to go. Not good news for the Buckeyes. The weekly grind of the SEC took its toll throughout the course of the season, and now we'll see the team that started the season against MSU and VTech. Tressel may feel the need to practice too much during the break, risking injury and fatigue for his team. Can sweater-vest find the perfect balance of rest and preparation? It's possible, but it's not likely. And no matter what game planning JT uses, he still cannot simulate the speed and power in practice.
5. Tested and tried
LSU, like many teams in the SEC this year, has been though some wars. Last-play victories, 4th-down conversions, OT battles...this LSU team is better tested and more experienced in crunch time. They believe they can win any game, no matter the amount of time on the clock or what the scoreboard shows. They've also had more experience defending different offensive attacks, which will make it more difficult for tOSU to surprise Miles & Co. on offense. In-game adjustments will be huge for the Buckeyes, and the Tigers are better prepared for changes on the fly. Also, if there is one thing Pellini can do well, it's blitz. tOSU will not be prepared for the varied, versatile attack that Bo Peep will devise.
Okay, I see what you're saying
My response...
#1. Yes, thinking about last years game will get into their heads if we get down. Florida did not see exactly how good tOSU can be if the game is in our favor because we were trying to play catch up the entire game. Look for this tOSU team to play out of their minds and maybe one of the best games ever.
#2. Guaranteed that Tressel is spending every waking hour preparing for anything that LSU might throw at them. Rodriguez running a spread offense at Michigan can only help us prepare in the future. Look for tOSU to do some crazy things defensively to throw LSU off. Our DB's aren't slow like every SEC fan likes to think.
#3. The Buckeyes have probably the best traveling fan base in the nation and I guarantee that they will not let LSU take over the superdome. It'll be 50/50 and probably 50,000 more tOSU fans outside tailgating. NO has no idea what is about to come to town. tOSU fans out numbered Florida fans last year 4 to 1.
#4. Same here. Watch out for a healthy tOSU squad.
#5. Both teams are a lot similar than people would like to think. LSU in ability to stop the run could hurt if we set the tempo in our favor.
Here are mine for Ohio State that I posted in another thread.
1. Establishing a running game and controling the clock.
2. Keeping tempo with LSU for the first few possessions until the game settles down.
3. Getting pressure on Flynn and or Perriloux
4. tOSU's defense must bring their A game and tackle well!!
5. Boeckman MUST gain confidence early.
6. Use our O-line size to wear down LSU's defensive front.
7. Les Miles (0-4 as a player againist tOSU, and 0-4 as a coach againist us)
Ohio State can't get caught off guard , and get down 2 or 3 scores.
That takes the OSU running game right out of the picture, LSU will try to strike fast and build a lead to take away OSU's running game(like Florida did).
It is all going to come down to no missed tackles and how effective the offensive line is for OSU. I truly believe OSU can pound the ball down LSU's throat all night, it will just depend on the attitude of the O-line. I expect LSU to put 9 in the box and force Boeckman to beat them as well, hoping for a bad pass or consecutive 3 and outs. This game will be determined in the first couple possesions, OSU must hang tough through them, and they have a good chance. If OSU can still run the ball with 8 or 9 in the box, look-out!! I know many of you are asking, Do you think we can honestly do that with a healthy Glenn Dorsey? Yes, tOSU's o-line is bigger than anything Dorsey has seen, not to mention a healthy Beanie Wells is bigger than MOST backs Dorsey has seen.
GamecockDieHard
12-16-2007, 05:21 PM
I'd love to have OSU's (not Oklahoma State, not Oregon State, not....) history and I don't mean to be...well...mean, but when was the last time OSU beat an SEC team in a bowl? History doesn't predict the future, but in my opinion, OSU hasn't played enough quality competition worthy enough to be considered the favorite in this game. You play your schedule and they deserve to be there, but they've got to be a serious underdog going in. The only way LSU loses is if they get food poison the night before. If LSU let's Ohio State win this game, then I'll consider it a MAJOR choke on LSU's part. If Ohio State played LSU's schedule this past year, we wouldn't even be talking about OSU.
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