2008 Powers, Wannabees, & Bottom Dwellers

[GeauxTo]

In the 2008 SEC Football Race, who are the Powers, the Wannabees, & the Bottom Dwellers? Here are my picks:

Powers
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee

Wannabees
South Carolina
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi State

Bottom Dwellers
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

I don't think anyone would correct that list. Looks pretty solid.

[crusse10]

i'm honestly not too sure if either tennessee or auburn quite belong in the top category just yet.
both qbs starting next year will have big shoes to fill, and it'll be tough to see if they can inherit the starting roll well.

[D^3]

In the 2008 SEC Football Race, who are the Powers, the Wannabees, & the Bottom Dwellers? Here are my picks:

Powers
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee

Wannabees
South Carolina
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi State

Bottom Dwellers
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

Eh..... I'm not so sure about Auburn and UT. For Auburn, this year didn't exactly start or end on a positive note. You'd like to see an improvement towards the end of the year to indicate progress, but I'm not so sure that there's any such indicator there.

UT: Well, they're losing Erik Ainge. It will be interesting to see if the young guys on that team can step up, and if Fulmer can avoid the early season struggles. They won the East, but they didn't look pretty getting there. Plus I think that Georgia and Florida will just be too strong next year for them to compete.

[KRIEGER]

Tennessee? :unsure:
If Borges develops Kodi all off-season and brings his full potential out, we could make a serious splash next year.

[GatorBait15]

bold, blind, b/s, total guess.....SECCG next year Auburn vrs Florida

[Tider27]

Yeah, nothing in this thread that is said matters. Who is to say Alabama won't come out and be much improved next season? I like our players returning, 9 on Offense and 7 on Defense. Schedule will be tough as hell though...

[bigsexxxy]

Yeah, nothing in this thread that is said matters. Who is to say Alabama won't come out and be much improved next season? I like our players returning, 9 on Offense and 7 on Defense. Schedule will be tough as hell though...

I don't know if having returning starters off of this years team is a good or a bad thing....:unsure::unsure::sad:

[Tider27]

I don't know if having returning starters off of this years team is a good or a bad thing....:unsure::unsure::sad:

Most of our problems lied in undisciplined seniors from the Shula era. Those that still have a problem with things going on, will be gone before spring. I don't there will be a problem with bad seeds any longer, which was our main problem.

[nellanaesp]

I'd take South Carolina as a power over Tennessee next year. South Carolina has a more seasoned quarterback and another 4-star redshirt to get some play time. Also, a lot of the offense and defense will be returning (except for Cory Boyd). I think LSU will drop down next year if Miles stays, I just don't see them making it as far as they did this year with him at the helm. I just don't think he's SEC material. Florida will be huge next year, especially since they have Tebow, and Georgia will be up there too. I expect to see Bama and Carolina in the powers, and I think next year might be Fulmer's breaking point at UT. I think Mississippi State will have an 8 win year, and Nutt will do wonders with Ole miss. Next year might be more hectic than this year. . who knows. I'm looking forward to it though. Unfortunately, I probly won't be able to go to any of Carolina's games :sad:

My Predictions:

Powers:
Florida
Georgia
LSU (not as powerful as this year)
South Carolina
Auburn
Alabama

Wannabee's:
Tennessee
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
Arkansas

Bottom Dweller(s):
Vanderbilt
Kentucky

[LSU PRIDE]

Powers
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Georgia


Wannabees
Tennessee
South Carolina
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi State

Bottom Dwellers
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Vanderbilt


damn i pretty much agree with your list all i did was bumped TENN down a bit but shit u never know how it will unfold i think Miss ST will be better next year and SC will be improved too.. i think we may start to see the rise of bama i predict them finishin with 8 wins or so

[STUCKNBIG10]

In the 2008 SEC Football Race, who are the Powers, the Wannabees, & the Bottom Dwellers? Here are my picks:

Powers
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee

Wannabees
South Carolina
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi State

Bottom Dwellers
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

i disagree on several fronts: I don't see Tennessee being in the powers list. THey lose Ainge, and kind of skated by this year. In addition, they add @ Auburn to the schedule next year and @UCLA in early September, so the schedule is tough.

I see South Carolina on the cusp of the powers list (but not quite). THey were very young this year and continue to upgrade their talent level.

I don't think UK will be as bad as you think. Brooks has upgraded our talent level more than most know and our schedule is more favorable next year (home schedule has almost all winnable games, with the possible exception of UGA). If we beat Louisville to begin the year, then we will go bowling again.

[shk999]

Powers
Florida
Georgia
LSU

Wannabees
Auburn
Tenn
South Carolina
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi State

Bottom Dwellers
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

[uscrules]

Powers
Florida
Georgia
LSU

Wannabees
Auburn
Tenn
South Carolina
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi State

Bottom Dwellers
Ole Miss
Kentucky
VanderbiltThis list looks more realistic. South Carolina will have a lot of returning players as we were very young this year and a more favorable schedule. That is the plus for us, the minus is Florida and Georgia will be strong as well, and they are both in the East.

[azamugg]

how about this just as stupid but more accurate set of categories:

those that massively underperformed this year and should be ashamed:

LSU
Auburn
Florida

those that underperformed in their fans mind but met the publics expectations:

Alabama
South Carolina
Arkansas
Tennessee

those that exceeded their potential, fans are happy:

Miss. State

[BAMAPERRY]

Powers
Florida
Bama
Georgia

Good, but not a power
South Carolina
Arkansas
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State


Falling fast
LSU
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

[GTTiger]

how about this just as stupid but more accurate set of categories:

those that massively underperformed this year and should be ashamed:

LSU
Auburn
Florida

those that underperformed in their fans mind but met the publics expectations:

Alabama
South Carolina
Arkansas
Tennessee

those that exceeded their potential, fans are happy:

Miss. State

How can any team that makes the national title game be considered as underperforming. LSU started the season as #2 and ended the regular season as #2. The same can't be said for most of the top 10 teams.

[GTTiger]

How about this:

SEC Teams estimated preseason rankings:

Top 5:
UGA
UF

Top 6-10:
LSU

Top 10-20:
Auburn
Tennessee

Top 20-30:
South Carolina
Alabama

[azamugg]

How can any team that makes the national title game be considered as underperforming. LSU started the season as #2 and ended the regular season as #2. The same can't be said for most of the top 10 teams.

just talking $hit

[Gator2753]

How can any team that makes the national title game be considered as underperforming. LSU started the season as #2 and ended the regular season as #2. The same can't be said for most of the top 10 teams.

Its actually a compliment to LSU. I expected you guys to be undefeated right now with one loss at the most.
Still...Youve had a great season, won the SEC, & your playing in the MNC.

[GeauxTo]

Powers
Florida
Bama
Georgia

Good, but not a power
South Carolina
Arkansas
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State


Falling fast
LSU
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

:uglyhamme:D:crazy::crazy::crazy::confused::yelrot flm:headshake

[GTTiger]

Its actually a compliment to LSU. I expected you guys to be undefeated right now with one loss at the most.
Still...Youve had a great season, won the SEC, & your playing in the MNC.

Alot of the top teams have just been hurt by injuries this year. This has really affected the season.

Many of the top teams in the nation have really been plagued by injuries this year.

[MSUBULLY]

Mississippi State will be strong again next year, with a large portion of our core on both sides of the ball returning. Defense will be the key for MSU next year. We will have to find a way to replace the pass rush abilities of Titus Brown and Avery Hannibal. Our DB's next year and LB's should be solid again. On offense MSU returns both of our RB's and have a redshirt freshman who can change speeds on Defenses and provide more of a speedy back. We also return the bulk of our O-Line and QB. We will lose a couple of our best playmakers at WR, Burks and Long, but we have some young guys that are ready to step in I think. And with Carroll getting a whole off season as the number one guy at QB, I look for him to improve a lot next year. I wouldn't be surprised with an 8 or 9 win season next year from MSU although I also wouldn't be surprised with a 5 or 6 win season either. To me it seems that the SEC will be wide open next year with a lot of teams that are pretty evenly matched. Should make for a good year.

[GTTiger]

To me it seems that the SEC will be wide open next year with a lot of teams that are pretty evenly matched. Should make for a good year.

I think that was more of the case this year. I think UGA and UF are going to be really strong next year. While LSU will take a step down a bit next year. I think the gap after that might be larger than the gap was this year.

[Gator2753]

Powers
Alabama

Wannabees
LSU
UGA
UF
UT
USC
Vandy
UK
Ark
Ole Miss
MSU

Bottom Dwellers
Auburn

Edit: Sorry guys. Bamaperry stole my password. I just got him to give it back

[GatorBait15]

Powers
Alabama

Wannabees
LSU
UGA
UF
UT
USC
Vandy
UK
Ark
Ole Miss
MSU

Bottom Dwellers
Auburn

Edit: Sorry guys. Bamaperry stole my password. I just got him to give it back

haha:mellow:

[MSUBULLY]

Powers
Alabama

Wannabees
LSU
UGA
UF
UT
USC
Vandy
UK
Ark
Ole Miss
MSU

Bottom Dwellers
Auburn

Edit: Sorry guys. Bamaperry stole my password. I just got him to give it back

Now that's Funny!!!:thumpsup:

[Tennessee Ted]

Powers
Florida
Bama
Georgia

Good, but not a power
South Carolina
Arkansas
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State


Falling fast
LSU
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

Yea and Bear Bryant will be your coach next year. Wake up, this is your dream not reality. Although Tennessee is losing an experienced QB, we have many rapidly improving young players on this team. Our defense is returning just about everybody and they have played better every week. We may not be a power, but we are not falling fast.

[MSUBULLY]

I think that was more of the case this year. I think UGA and UF are going to be really strong next year. While LSU will take a step down a bit next year. I think the gap after that might be larger than the gap was this year.

I really just don't see it that way, I think Georgia will be really strong, but I don't think they will be as strong as LSU was this year. And with Florida, I hate to say it but anything could happen. Tebow got really banged up this year, if I were Myer I would sit him down in the off season and teach him how to slide. If he were to get hurt next year Florida becomes just an above average team, they'll still be good but damn, Tebow is a hell of an athlete. I think Bama, MSU, Arkansas, LSU, and Auburn will all be fighting it out in the West. I don't see a clear leader among any of those teams yet. And in the East Carolina could spoil several peoples parade next year because they will probally be the most veteran team in the East on both sides of the ball. I wouldn't count out Tennessee or Kentucky either, they always seem to find a way to get some very talented QB's.

[GatorBait15]

So UF at TENN next year? I think UF can sneak by...

[Tennessee Ted]

So UF at TENN next year? I think UF can sneak by...

It would appear that would probably be the case. Tebow and the offense will definitely score. The question mark is Tennessee's offense under a new QB vs. Florida's defense. I think we will be fine on offense, but not sure we will have enough to outscore Tebow.

[GeauxTo]

LSU will lose some key players, for sure, but the replacements, in some cases, may be even better.

It will be the beginning of the Ryan Perrilloux era at QB, and with WRs like Brandon Lafell and Demetrius Byrd, and TE Richard Dickson, he's going to be awesome. He and Tebow will be the two best QBs in the SEC.

The running backs will be minus Jacob Hester but still have Keiland Williams, Charles Scott, Richard Murphy, Trindon Holliday, and freshman Stevan Ridley. Pretty awesome.

Bret Helms will be back at center, backed up by Ryan Miller.

The offensive line will be anchored by Herman Johnson, Lyle Hitt, Ciron Black, and Joseph Barksdale.

The defense will have Charles Alexander, Marlon Favorite, Drake Nevis, Tyson Jackson, Kriston Pittman, and Ricky Jean-Francois.

Linebackers will be solid with Beckwith and Cutrera.

The secondary will feature Chad Jones (likely to be the best ever) and Jai Eugene.

Kicker Colt David returns.

So, those who anticipate LSU "falling" next year need to alter their expectations. LSU will be one of the strongest teams in the SEC again.

[GatorBait15]

I am just happy we play UT early because they always improve so much by the end of the year, we play them at a good time and always find a way to win.

[MSUBULLY]

LSU will lose some key players, for sure, but the replacements, in some cases, may be even better.

It will be the beginning of the Ryan Perrilloux era at QB, and with WRs like Brandon Lafell and Demetrius Byrd, and TE Richard Dickson, he's going to be awesome. He and Tebow will be the two best QBs in the SEC.

The running backs will be minus Jacob Hester but still have Keiland Williams, Charles Scott, Richard Murphy, Trindon Holliday, and freshman Stevan Ridley. Pretty awesome.

Bret Helms will be back at center, backed up by Ryan Miller.

The offensive line will be anchored by Herman Johnson, Lyle Hitt, Ciron Black, and Joseph Barksdale.

The defense will have Charles Alexander, Marlon Favorite, Drake Nevis, Tyson Jackson, Kriston Pittman, and Ricky Jean-Francois.

Linebackers will be solid with Beckwith and Cutrera.

The secondary will feature Chad Jones (likely to be the best ever) and Jai Eugene.

Kicker Colt David returns.

So, those who anticipate LSU "falling" next year need to alter their expectations. LSU will be one of the strongest teams in the SEC again.

That is of course asuming that Miles can keep Perrilloux out of jail during the off season. That kid has had his troubles, and I think is one of the main reasons for your fall off in the middle of the season this year. He is a distraction to the team.

[GeauxTo]

That is of course asuming that Miles can keep Perrilloux out of jail during the off season. That kid has had his troubles, and I think is one of the main reasons for your fall off in the middle of the season this year. He is a distraction to the team.

True Dat... but I hope the glory he tasted in the conference championship game might help him pursue football with his full potential. He could be a 1st round draft pick when the time comes if he'll take care of business.

[Tennessee Ted]

I am just happy we play UT early because they always improve so much by the end of the year, we play them at a good time and always find a way to win.

That is a nice spin to it, but it is more like UT is underprepared early, and we finally reach our potential later in the year. The coaching staff is really going to have to make sure everyone is prepared early or it will be another 1-2 start or worse with us playing Auburn next year early too.

[Bulldog Bry]

Isn't it funny that most everyone thinks their own team will improve vastly, yet they don't take into account any other team improving?

[GatorBait15]

Well I think UF is the real deal next year, our Offense will be outstanding as long as our defense can pull it together in big games we will be in good shape.

[DEHIII]

How much is LSU losing off this team this year? I thought you guys were just loaded with senior starters? I know with Miles recruiting you will be placing very talented players in there, but they would still be young. As we saw this year with UF, you will still have a good team but not SECC or MNC caliber.

Anyway, could an LSU fan fill me in on the losses next year?

[BAMAPERRY]

UT has the same problem as LSU, your Head Coach returns next year. Admit it dude, Phattopotamus had a horshoe jammed up his ass this year. The Great Pumpkin won't be so lucky next year. LSU, well apparently Lesster couldn't even screw it up this year. They will take the biggest fall next year.

[D^3]

And in the East Carolina could spoil several peoples parade next year because they will probally be the most veteran team in the East on both sides of the ball.

Their best chance to take advantage of seniority and experience was this year, and they went 6-6. Georgia and Florida both were in their "rebuilding" years and they still went 9-3 and 10-2. They both get much better next year. USC is going to have a tough time winning 5 games in the conference next year.

[sheluvsbama]

That is a nice spin to it, but it is more like UT is underprepared early, and we finally reach our potential later in the year. The coaching staff is really going to have to make sure everyone is prepared early or it will be another 1-2 start or worse with us playing Auburn next year early too.

There is no reason for anyone to be under-prepared. Everyone gets better as the year progresses, and we all have the same amount of time to do so. Sometimes we might have injuries, but there are really no excuses to come into a game and not be prepared. It is the fault of the coach. He is reponsible for that, in my opinion.

[WarEagle73]

I would expect Auburn to remain a power in the SEC next year due to the fact that we've got so much of our team returning for next year. The biggest question mark will be who will be our QB. Some seem to think that Kodi burns will step in and usher Auburn into the new spread option style of offense. Wile some seem to think it will be Blake Field or Neil Caudle running basically the same west coast style offense we've run in the last few years. Personally I think we'll see Blake Field. He has been in the system longest and even though he only had limited experience this year he has shown to have very good accuracy and a good deal more arm strength than what we witnessed from Brandon Cox this year. Our running game next year should be among the best in the conference with the return of all our tailbacks as well as the addition Enrique Davis (5 Star , 5'11" 220 lbs 4.39 40 yrd) couple that with Auburn returning virtually it's entire offensive line and you have the makings of a down right scary running game. So long as our new QB can present any threat to throw the ball we should have a very successful year.

As for the rest of the SEC, I look to Florida & Georgia to decide the east and both will probably go into the season as top ten teams along with talk of national championship aspirations. Right now I'd give a slight nod to the Bulldogs over the Gators due to Florida's unsettled defensive issues. However, if some of the young Gators step up they might be unstoppable. Tennessee should have a solid team next year and could enter into the East equation if they can find some consistency on the defense (especially in the secondary). South Carolina is a hard one to try to figure out. They went from the top 10 beating Georgia in very convincing fashion early in the season to losing five straight to end a bowl-less season. Kentucky & Vandy will resume their usual positions in the SEC by scaring and perhaps even beating a team or two they shouldn't but when all is said and done they will probably end the season in he bottom of the East.

Now to the West. LSU will be as loaded as ever but will sorely miss several senior leaders that will be playing on Sundays next season. At the same time they will be adjusting to a new defensive coordinator. Their trip to Jordan-Hare will go a long way to telling us how their season will go. If history is any indicator then I like my tiger's chances over these tigers. Past Auburn & LSU you have to look at Alabama and surprisingly Mississippi State. Bama will benefit from another off season under Saban's tutelage as well as a rich crop of prospects in this years signing class. However, I still think that program will need perhaps one more season before they truly return to the ranks of the SEC elite. Meanwhile Croom has slowly but surly been building up the once moribund Bulldogs. I think he will be able to continue his gradual building process and perhaps MSU will be bowl bound again next year. Ole Miss will probably go though somewhat of a transition phase with Houston Nutt next year. I feel though that I should caution our Rebel friends to be patient with the Nutt. He has proven to be a master at taking what most would consider not he best talent and getting the most possible from them. If there is a better style coach for Ole Miss I could not think of whom it would be. Ole Miss shot themselves in the foot when they fired Cuttcliff and hopefully for their sake they have learned from that bitter lesson. Finally we come to Arkansas. I really am at a loss to opine as to what will happen here but I have a feeling it won't be good for quite some time. The coaching search has thus far been nothing short of a debacle. Today it's Jim Grobe deciding that he's better off @ Wake Forest than to come to Fayetteville, who will be next? I've heard rumors that Jim Donnan might be the one but right now nobody knows. Either way, things don't look good at all for the Hogs in the near future.

[gatorunvrsty]

I really just don't see it that way, I think Georgia will be really strong, but I don't think they will be as strong as LSU was this year. And with Florida, I hate to say it but anything could happen. Tebow got really banged up this year, if I were Myer I would sit him down in the off season and teach him how to slide. If he were to get hurt next year Florida becomes just an above average team, they'll still be good but damn, Tebow is a hell of an athlete. I think Bama, MSU, Arkansas, LSU, and Auburn will all be fighting it out in the West. I don't see a clear leader among any of those teams yet. And in the East Carolina could spoil several peoples parade next year because they will probally be the most veteran team in the East on both sides of the ball. I wouldn't count out Tennessee or Kentucky either, they always seem to find a way to get some very talented QB's.

Tebow had a shoulder contusion and a broken hand that didn't stop him from launching the ball all over the place. I don't think anyone will have to worry about Tebow; primarily because we'll have a much improved running game with Moody in the backfield. His carries should drop by at least half. Even if he did go down, our backup would easily fill the void. Cam Newton has been still learning the offense all this year; but, by next season, he'll be every bit as dangerous as Tebow.:thumpsup:

[geechee]

I don't think anyone would correct that list. Looks pretty solid.

Au contre! If Arkansas does not fix their coaching problem soon they could drop to the bottom group. Coaching is everything in college sports.

[uscrules]

Isn't it funny that most everyone thinks their own team will improve vastly, yet they don't take into account any other team improving?That is not true, I said bad news is we will be in the East with Georgia and Florida. I think that is what I was saying, we may be better but so will they.

[DEHIII]

I will say this about Alabama next year, we will not be SEC contenders IMO.

We just flat out don't have the talent. Not to mention you never know what you are going to get from JPW. Saban is working on the talent and I am excited. During the Shula years we signed average talent or took some chances on some guys that didn't work out. And during this time with our average talent we have got average results. We are not up there currently with UF, LSU, UGA and AU. At the same time we aren't Vandy or Ole Miss.

So I look for Alabama to improve next year but really start making big strides the following 2 years. I just want to see 22 guys all fighting for the same goal who won't quit when things don't go right.

BTW, this is to say nothing of the fact we have a very hard schedule next year with a ton of big road games.

[reese]

i dont see why everyone is so down on UT. the won the east this year and they return a good majority of there starters. like FL and UGA they also had a few young guys playin that will be better next year. exept for heffney there whole secondary was young. there losing ainge but crompton is more talented, been at UT for 3 years and has gotten some playin time. i think they will be right in the thick of it with FL and UGA

[GeauxTo]

Correctamundo! It does not make any sense to think Tennessee will not be strong next year. They are young and returning a lot of players; they are very talented, fast, and physical. IMO, the Vols will definitely make it a horse race in the East, and they'll be one of the faster horses. Florida, UGA and Tennessee will make the East a real dog fight; and make no mistake, the Vols will definitely be in the fight.

[PuddingTime]

I think UK will be better than many expect us to be after losing Woodson. I'd say we win 5 or 6 games next year.

[Bulldog Bry]

That is not true, I said bad news is we will be in the East with Georgia and Florida. I think that is what I was saying, we may be better but so will they.

I gotta be honest, I was really talking about myself. But I think it's natural to do that. I get excited about our team for next year without really taking into account that someone like Mississippi State could turn it around.
Besides, I'm, like, barred from making fun of USC for awhile. Something about 16-12.

[Bulldog Bry]

Correctamundo! It does not make any sense to think Tennessee will not be strong next year. They are young and returning a lot of players; they are very talented, fast, and physical. IMO, the Vols will definitely make it a horse race in the East, and they'll be one of the faster horses. Florida, UGA and Tennessee will make the East a real dog fight; and make no mistake, the Vols will definitely be in the fight.

I think Tennessee will absolutely BLOW next year, and I have nothing to base that on. Just kind of wishing, I guess. :laugh:

[nellanaesp]

I gotta be honest, I was really talking about myself. But I think it's natural to do that. I get excited about our team for next year without really taking into account that someone like Mississippi State could turn it around.
Besides, I'm, like, barred from making fun of USC for awhile. Something about 16-12.

And i'm hoping that you'll be barred from making fun of USC for the next couple years. :ph34r:

[Tennessee Ted]

Thanks Rees and GeuxTo for being the voice of reason on this thread. Tennessee beat in succession after the Bama loss South Carolina, Arkansas, Vandy, and Kentucky and before that we blew out Georgia. Then we led the #2 team in the country into the 4th quarter. The main ingredient of our team we are losing, but our defense is getting better, we are returning a strong corps of running backs and wide receivers, so do not count us out.

[Dmldawg782]

The East will be strong next year. UF, UGA, UT, and USC will be good teams next year. Unfortunately, they play each other and hurt each teams chance at winning it all.

[GeauxTo]

The East will be strong next year. UF, UGA, UT, and USC will be good teams next year. Unfortunately, they play each other and hurt each teams chance at winning it all.

Not USC... they will suck and continue their downward spiral into oblivion.

[nellanaesp]

Not USC... they will suck and continue their downward spiral into oblivion.

Damn . . I was sure they were already in oblivion :happy: Honestly, I think (and hope) that I will see USC rise from the grave. Another win against Georgia will be a great start, and I think that if we beat Georgia (which, right now, seems VERY unlikely) we can actually hold the season out and compete for the east next year. Everyone's been saying that this year was their chance and they blew it except Spurrier. He said at the beginning of the year that this team will not be nearly as good as next year's team due to the young-ness of the team and I think he's right. Unfortunately, every other team will be just as Seasoned, if not more, and might still be better.

[uscrules]

Not USC... they will suck and continue their downward spiral into oblivion.Wow, you know how to hit a man when he is down. That is why they play the games, see you in Columbia next year.

[bbqit]

In the 2008 SEC Football Race, who are the Powers, the Wannabees, & the Bottom Dwellers? Here are my picks:

Powers
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee

Wannabees
South Carolina
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi State

Bottom Dwellers
Kentucky
Vanderbilt


New catagory: Gonnabee
Ole Miss
I can't see us worse than we were.

[MSUBULLY]

New catagory: Gonnabee
Ole Miss
I can't see us worse than we were.

You must not be able to see very well then. You might want to go get some new glasses that aren't tinted blue and red.

[BAMAPERRY]

I will say this about Alabama next year, we will not be SEC contenders IMO.

We just flat out don't have the talent. Not to mention you never know what you are going to get from JPW. Saban is working on the talent and I am excited. During the Shula years we signed average talent or took some chances on some guys that didn't work out. And during this time with our average talent we have got average results. We are not up there currently with UF, LSU, UGA and AU. At the same time we aren't Vandy or Ole Miss.

So I look for Alabama to improve next year but really start making big strides the following 2 years. I just want to see 22 guys all fighting for the same goal who won't quit when things don't go right.

BTW, this is to say nothing of the fact we have a very hard schedule next year with a ton of big road games.

We certainly didn't have the talent level that we're going to have, but we had enough to win with. Our numero uno problem was a group of players who had the country club mentality under Shula and refused to get with Coach Sabans program. Heck, our QB and star WR hated each other. It certainly showed down the stretch. The troublemakers who aren't Seniors will be shown the door. Overall we should be quite a bit better next year. Even with all the problems we had this year we were still close in the games we lost. I wouldn't be surprised to see JPW get beat out next year.

[bbqit]

You must not be able to see very well then. You might want to go get some new glasses that aren't tinted blue and red.


So what you are saying is that we wont be better with Nutt as head coach. Which leads to believe that you must think O is as good a coach as Nutt or is better than Nutt. Well this buds for you Mr Oneandninevsnuttarmchairquarterback.

[GeauxTo]

New catagory: Gonnabee
Ole Miss
I can't see us worse than we were.

Good idea! With Nutt at the helm, I think you may be onto something. He's going to restore Ole Miss to its status as a good team in the West.

[GetEmGamecocks]

Powers
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee

Wannabees
South Carolina
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi State

Bottom Dwellers
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Vanderbilt

I would take Tenn out of the powers and add SC. LSU is out of the powers as well.

[GTTiger]

I would take Tenn out of the powers and add SC. LSU is out of the powers as well.

Even if LSU is down next year, they are likely to finish ahead of South Carolina. They might not be as good next year as this year, but they are still a top 10 team talent wise.

[UKat]

The East will be strong next year. UF, UGA, UT, and USC will be good teams next year. Unfortunately, they play each other and hurt each teams chance at winning it all.Y'all just keep underestimating us lol........UK won't be as down as most y'all think.......we only lose 5 starters and have a good QB in the wings with a great fleet of rb's and wr's. Defense should be improved also.

[TDArkansasOhmy]

Powers:

Florida
Georgia
Louisiana State

Want2bees:

Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Ole Miss

Bottom Dwellers:

Arkansas
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Vanderbilt

Checker Players:

University of South Carolina

[Hungryneck]

Their best chance to take advantage of seniority and experience was this year, and they went 6-6. Georgia and Florida both were in their "rebuilding" years and they still went 9-3 and 10-2. They both get much better next year. USC is going to have a tough time winning 5 games in the conference next year.

Their is USC for clarity purposes.

Well DDD, USC had 8 seniors who played in 2007 of which one was a walk-on. Those seniors were:
Blake Mitchell
Casper Brinkley
Corey Boyd
Andy Boyd (TE)
Web Brown (Cen)
Lannard Stafford (FB walk-on)
Joel Reaves (DT)
Cody Wells (LB)

The first 6 were starters. I have added positions for those I think you will a hard time placing. We will miss all of them but those players are hardly irreplaceable. There were actually more seniors but the remainder didn't get on the field. With the exception of Mitchell, we will probably upgrade with their replacements. Next year isn't going to be a rebuilding year for us. All of our defensive players injured should return in 2008. The last two in the list were listed last because they weren't starters but I actually believe they were more valuable than some of the starters above them. Like FL & UGA we'll get a year older and stronger. In 2008 we'll have 13 seniors expected to be major contributors compared to the above 8 in 2007.

In 2008, we drop MSU and pickup Ole Miss. On the other hand UGA drops Ole Miss but picks up LSU. Who's schedule gets harder?

So, in conclusion DDD, our team gets better while our schedule gets weaker. I'm not ready to predict 10-2 but I can see UGA being better next year but still dropping to 8-4. Sorta like what happened to USC in 2007.

Unless you're simply a troll, in which case never mind.

[AceLeroy]

In the 2008 SEC Football Race, who are the Powers, the Wannabees, & the Bottom Dwellers? Here are my picks:

Powers
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Georgia
Tennessee

Wannabees
South Carolina
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi State

Bottom Dwellers
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Vanderbilt


Count me amongst the MSU fans who are glad to move up from the Bottom Dwellers to the Wannabees.

Give me another bowl season next year and color me happy as a pig drinking red pop!:laugh:

[GeauxTo]

I would take Tenn out of the powers and add SC. LSU is out of the powers as well.

USC will, as you know in your heart, continue to suck.
LSU will, as you know in your heart, continue to dominate.

But you do have a nice baseball team.
:laugh:

[BAMA NATE]

USC will, as you know in your heart, continue to suck.
LSU will, as you know in your heart, continue to dominate.

But you do have a nice baseball team.
:laugh:

You will just keep saying that year after year after year. Your program has already been as good as its going to get. You know deep down in your heart that LSU's days are numbered.

As for the rest...we saw what Alabama can do when they are rolling on all cylinders against a good Tennessee team. Who would've beaten them that day? This season was a disappointment but the W's are clearly on the horizon for us. Auburn is another program that has peaked in recent years. The AU faithful will be calling for either Blake Field's or Kodi Burns' head before the season is halfway over. MSU expectations are slowly getting unrealistic. Croom will again be under fire if these guys miss the postseason next year which is a hell of a possibility.

[The Ramp]

You will just keep saying that year after year after year. Your program has already been as good as its going to get. You know deep down in your heart that LSU's days are numbered.

As for the rest...we saw what Alabama can do when they are rolling on all cylinders against a good Tennessee team. Who would've beaten them that day? This season was a disappointment but the W's are clearly on the horizon for us. Auburn is another program that has peaked in recent years. The AU faithful will be calling for either Blake Field's or Kodi Burns' head before the season is halfway over. MSU expectations are slowly getting unrealistic. Croom will again be under fire if these guys miss the postseason next year which is a hell of a possibility.

lmao@typical "wait til next year" bama lemmings. it's funny that all bama fans can see the future. must be the water down there

[timNem]

lmao@typical "wait til next year" bama lemmings. it's funny that all bama fans can see the future. must be the water down there
Clean drinking water tends to have that effect :ph34r:

[The Ramp]

Clean drinking water tends to have that effect :ph34r:

actually the Tuscaloosa Trend which runs from Baton Rouge to Tuscaloosa is one the cleanest groundwater in the US:thumpsup:

[GetEmGamecocks]

USC will, as you know in your heart, continue to suck.
LSU will, as you know in your heart, continue to dominate.

But you do have a nice baseball team.
:laugh:

Don't get mad becuase people don't agree with you, please. It's just childish :wacko:

[nellanaesp]

I think the difference between the first half of Carolina's season and the second half is that in the first half, we believed we could win. We had the whole 'The Game Is On' theme goin on and we were pumped up for every game, but then that second half of the NC game seemed to get the team down a bit. At the vandy game, the team came out like they had just waken up from a 2 hour sleep and decided to play a game of flag football. And the rest is history. If the team can get rid of the "We suck and we can't make it in the SEC" attitude, they can do great things. But not until that, and that's what Spurrier is having a hard time doing, with the fans and the players.

[scfan5338]

Not USC... they will suck and continue their downward spiral into oblivion.

With the most talented team in the country, LSU needed help to get into the national championship game. With the team they had, LSU should have beaten everyone, even in the SEC and should have been in the national championship without the help of WV and Missouri. We all know that LSU was very lucky to jump UGA in the BCS poll. We will never be as good as LSU or whatever but LSU every year is suppose to be great, but bust at the end. Here's a prediction, OSU wins.

[BAMAPERRY]

Miles = Larry Coker.

[GeauxTo]

With the most talented team in the country, LSU needed help to get into the national championship game. With the team they had, LSU should have beaten everyone, even in the SEC and should have been in the national championship without the help of WV and Missouri. We all know that LSU was very lucky to jump UGA in the BCS poll. We will never be as good as LSU or whatever but LSU every year is suppose to be great, but bust at the end. Here's a prediction, OSU wins.


Miles = Larry Coker.

Well, one thing you can bank on in 2008; LSU will beat the living crap out of South Carolina and Alabama.
:biggrin:

[The Ramp]

Miles = Larry Coker.

BamaPerry=Broken Record

Miles=Jim Tressel

Saban=Dennis Francchoine

[azamugg]

Well, one thing you can bank on in 2008; LSU will beat the living crap out of South Carolina and Alabama.
:biggrin:

what I find amusing....is LSU fans, with the most talented team they'll more than likely ever have, interprets last play win as beating the "living crap" out of someone

15 minutes of fame fellas, 15 minutes of fame

[CarolinaGrad07]

Well, one thing you can bank on in 2008; LSU will beat the living crap out of South Carolina and Alabama.
:biggrin:

Ahhhh.......got to love all this 2008 predictions already. Fans are already throwing down cash on the season.:laugh:Lets all remain noble till we see what our teams weaknesses and strengths coming out of spring camp. Or you can just continue pulling crap out of your a$$ and POTENTIALLY making yourself look stupid.

[The Ramp]

With the most talented team in the country, LSU needed help to get into the national championship game. With the team they had, LSU should have beaten everyone, even in the SEC and should have been in the national championship without the help of WV and Missouri. We all know that LSU was very lucky to jump UGA in the BCS poll. We will never be as good as LSU or whatever but LSU every year is suppose to be great, but bust at the end. Here's a prediction, OSU wins.

LMAO...where do all these lemmings get this "most talented team in teh country" crap? obviously they don't follow recruiting. USC and Tex nationally had better recruiting classes the last couple of years. UGA had the best recruiting classes in the SEC the last couple of years. No one claims Richt, Carrell, and Brown are underachievers. Not even Saban beat everyone. LMAO @ "bust". Miles finished higher than his preseason rankings in 2005 AND 2006. I seriously don't know where ya'll get this stuff.

[azamugg]

LMAO...where do all these lemmings get this "most talented team in teh country" crap? obviously they don't follow recruiting. USC and Tex nationally had better recruiting classes the last couple of years. UGA had the best recruiting classes in the SEC the last couple of years. No one claims Richt, Carrell, and Brown are underachievers. Not even Saban beat everyone. LMAO @ "bust". Miles finished higher than his preseason rankings in 2005 AND 2006. I seriously don't know where ya'll get this stuff.

we get it from Geauxto:laugh:

[The Ramp]

what I find amusing....is LSU fans, with the most talented team they'll more than likely ever have, interprets last play win as beating the "living crap" out of someone

15 minutes of fame fellas, 15 minutes of fame

again...i don't know where you guys get this "most talented team" crap. i guess it's easy out for ya'll to label us that and use it when we don't beat everyone by 40 points.

[CarolinaGrad07]

LMAO...where do all these lemmings get this "most talented team in teh country" crap? obviously they don't follow recruiting. USC and Tex nationally had better recruiting classes the last couple of years. UGA had the best recruiting classes in the SEC the last couple of years. No one claims Richt, Carrell, and Brown are underachievers. Not even Saban beat everyone. LMAO @ "bust". Miles finished higher than his preseason rankings in 2005 AND 2006. I seriously don't know where ya'll get this stuff.

While i agree with you, your fanbase sure as hell doesnt.

[The Ramp]

we get it from Geauxto:laugh:


then shame on you:laugh:

[The Ramp]

While i agree with you, your fanbase sure as hell doesnt.

don't all fanbases think thier guys are the best? I'm sure SC fans think their guys deserved more All-SEC players.

[The Ramp]

I can tell you one thing. I was wrong about hyping Matt Flynn preseason. That guy is plain horrible. I also was wrong about Tyson Jackson. He hasn't done anything this year. Jackson and Zenon are good, but they never developed into shut down corners their senior year. and Herman Johnson STILL gets called for False Start penalties twice a game.

[sheluvsbama]

Well, one thing you can bank on in 2008; LSU will beat the living crap out of South Carolina and Alabama.
:biggrin:

I want that crystal ball you are looking through.:ohmy:

[CarolinaGrad07]

don't all fanbases think thier guys are the best? I'm sure SC fans think their guys deserved more All-SEC players.

Ha, I dont think you are going to find many carolina fans telling you that we are the best in anything right now, promising maybe, but best absolutly not! While i do believe that our fans are the most delusional in the SEC, we do have a right to look foward to our future. But then again the majority of us are not saying the word best now and havent as long as i have been a fan. Lets all try to remain noble when it concerns next year is all i am saying, everyone needs to remember, what happened this year with the sport, injuries, and recruits dont always pan out like we all would have liked them too. I find this whole thread quite amusing.

[The Ramp]

I want that crystal ball you are looking through.:ohmy:

It's a purple crystal ball a little different than your fanbase uses. Your red one foretells of Aub and LSU's demise and Bama's rise to power.:laugh:

[The Ramp]

Ha, I dont think you are going to find many carolina fans telling you that we are the best in anything right now, promising maybe, but best absolutly not! While i do believe that our fans are the most delusional in the SEC, we do have a right to look foward to our future. But then again the majority of us are not saying the word best now and havent as long as i have been a fan. Lets all try to remain noble when it concerns next year is all i am saying, everyone needs to remember, what happened this year with the sport, injuries, and recruits dont always pan out like we all would have liked them too. I find this whole thread quite amusing.

that's my point. but when Bama was tied for first in the West and SC/KY were in the top ten, their fanbases were all about boasting the greatness of their team. I don't think we're any different. This LSU team has lots of problems like the ones you just mentioned and its just too easy to blame the coach.

[CarolinaGrad07]

that's my point. but when Bama was tied for first in the West and SC/KY were in the top ten, their fanbases were all about boasting the greatness of their team. I don't think we're any different. This LSU team has lots of problems like the ones you just mentioned and its just too easy to blame the coach.

Fair enough and point taken. Oh and by the way, when we were top ten i was the one telling all the delusional fans that they were setting themselves up for serious disappointment. Just like all the delusional fans that think Garcia is a savior and is going to be the next tebow, even though they havent even seen the kid step on the field yet. (Just one of the newest additions to our fanbase being one of the most delusional). I do have to say though that i do get big laughs from all the fanbases.

[The Ramp]

Fair enough and point taken. Oh and by the way, when we were top ten i was the one telling all the delusional fans that they were setting themselves up for serious disappointment. Just like all the delusional fans that think Garcia is a savior and is going to be the next tebow, even though they havent even seen the kid step on the field yet. (Just one of the newest additions to our fanbase being one of the most delusional). I do have to say though that i do get big laughs from all the fanbases.

i recognize a lot of problems with this team; but when you got some internet troll ragging on your team, you start out defending you team and then the next thing you know you end up pumping them up.:laugh:

[Emilio7]

UT has the same problem as LSU, your Head Coach returns next year. Admit it dude, Phattopotamus had a horshoe jammed up his ass this year. The Great Pumpkin won't be so lucky next year. LSU, well apparently Lesster couldn't even screw it up this year. They will take the biggest fall next year.

I don't see how you can say that. We need a good Defensive Coordinator and Perriolloux needs to step up (which i think he will and will surprise all of you). IMO LSU will win the west again.

Now for the east...whoever win's the largest cocktail party is going to Atlanta.

[The Ramp]

I don't see how you can say that. We need a good Defensive Coordinator and Perriolloux needs to step up (which i think he will and will surprise all of you). IMO LSU will win the west again.

Now for the east...whoever win's the largest cocktail party is going to Atlanta.

Ignore him. He's the board laughing stock. He thought LSU, Tenn, and Auburn would suck and Bama would win the SEC this year. He's an idiot. typical finebaum lemming. he posts what he wants to happen and not what will really happen. we all think he's a 14 year old living in his mother's basement.

[Emilio7]

Ignore him. He's the board laughing stock. He thought LSU, Tenn, and Auburn would suck and Bama would win the SEC this year. He's an idiot. typical finebaum lemming. he posts what he wants to happen and not what will really happen. we all think he's a 14 year old living in his mother's basement.

what are you talking about....I never said Bama would win the SEC or that LSU and Auburn would suck

[The Ramp]

what are you talking about....I never said Bama would win the SEC or that LSU and Auburn would suck

I was talking about BamaPerry. Ignore him. He wants attention

[Emilio7]

I was talking about BamaPerry. Ignore him. He wants attention

oh my bad dude.

[nellanaesp]

Wow, this thread's gettin heated, isnt it :laugh:

[D^3]

Wow, this thread's gettin heated, isnt it :laugh:

Any time you ask people to tell who they think is going to suck next year, you're pretty much asking for it to get heated. :lol:

[nellanaesp]

Any time you ask people to tell who they think is going to suck next year, you're pretty much asking for it to get heated. :lol:

Ha yeah, I didn't really think about that . . .:whistle:

[Bulldog Bry]

I can tell you one thing. I was wrong about hyping Matt Flynn preseason. That guy is plain horrible. I also was wrong about Tyson Jackson. He hasn't done anything this year. Jackson and Zenon are good, but they never developed into shut down corners their senior year. and Herman Johnson STILL gets called for False Start penalties twice a game.

A theory we should all remember when predicting next year's "outcome".

[scfan5338]

Well, one thing you can bank on in 2008; LSU will beat the living crap out of South Carolina and Alabama.
:biggrin:

You're right, with less on defense, you will completely destroy Bama and USC at ofcourse their place. LSU is losing a lot of talent, sure they are reloading the talent but with much younger players and we all know what younger players lead to, mistakes. USC and Bama will only mature and if you were in your right state of mind you should realize that you're not gonna blow out USc and bama next year. You should have killed us this year but the score didn't say tht you did. with out the fake punt, yall didn't find ways to score.

[The Ramp]

You're right, with less on defense, you will completely destroy Bama and USC at ofcourse their place. LSU is losing a lot of talent, sure they are reloading the talent but with much younger players and we all know what younger players lead to, mistakes. USC and Bama will only mature and if you were in your right state of mind you should realize that you're not gonna blow out USc and bama next year. You should have killed us this year but the score didn't say tht you did. with out the fake punt, yall didn't find ways to score.

even though we were #2 in the SEC in total offense (i think) with little passing consistency this year; we should be cranking under year #2 of Crowton. Perrileux will be a much better QB than Flyn (he can't be worse) and we return everyone except Doucet (who was hurt most of the year), Hester, and Stewart (who sucked anyway).

but yeah....we do lose a lot on defense. i think we'll be fine on the DLine and Safeties, but we're replacing two corners and two linebackers. we'll be giving up some points next year.

[GeauxTo]

You're right, with less on defense, you will completely destroy Bama and USC at ofcourse their place. LSU is losing a lot of talent, sure they are reloading the talent but with much younger players and we all know what younger players lead to, mistakes. USC and Bama will only mature and if you were in your right state of mind you should realize that you're not gonna blow out USc and bama next year. You should have killed us this year but the score didn't say tht you did. with out the fake punt, yall didn't find ways to score.

When we come to Columbia next year, two young LSU players will take the field and be the best talent to have graced your field since you've been watching football; Ryan Perrilloux and Chad Jones. Perrilloux will light you up all day, leading the offensive onslaught that will have Spurrier throwing his visior numerous times, and Chad Jones will intercept your QB, run your kicks back, and generally wreak havoc on defense. It will be a killing in Williams-Bryce.

[scfan5338]

When we come to Columbia next year, two young LSU players will take the field and be the best talent to have graced your field since you've been watching football; Ryan Perrilloux and Chad Jones. Perrilloux will light you up all day, leading the offensive onslaught that will have Spurrier throwing his visior numerous times, and Chad Jones will intercept your QB, run your kicks back, and generally wreak havoc on defense. It will be a killing in Williams-Bryce.

I've seen better players play at WB than Perrilloux and Jones. Some guy named Tim Tebow comes to mind, I think he played just this past year. Oh yeah and this guy name Darren McFadden. And this guy named George Rogers. Seen plenty of guys better than Jones and Perrilloux that have play at WB, granted they aren't for my team. No doubt LSU has talent and they'll be good, and probably win because we cant stop anyone's option offense. Oh and actually they're not gonna light me up, because I'm not playing, they'll be lighting up my team.

[CarolinaGrad07]

I've seen better players play at WB than Perrilloux and Jones. Some guy named Tim Tebow comes to mind, I think he played just this past year. Oh yeah and this guy name Darren McFadden. And this guy named George Rogers. Seen plenty of guys better than Jones and Perrilloux that have play at WB, granted they aren't for my name. No doubt LSU has talent and they'll be good, and probably win because we cant stop anyone's option offense. Oh and actually they're not gonna light me up, because I'm not playing, they'll be lighting up my team.

great point!