all SEC

[reese]

post ur 1st, 2nd, and freshman all-sec teams

offensive POY
defensive POY
coach of the year

[Williams-Brice]

1st Team Offense

QB Tim Tebow, Florida
RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
RB Knowshon Mareno, Georgia
WR Earl Bennett, Vanderbilt
WR Steve Johnson, Kentucky
TE Cornelius Ingram, Florida

*I won't claim to know much about many offensive linemen individually.

1st Team Defense
DE Titus Brown, Mississippi State
DE Quentin Groves, Auburn
DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
DT Geno Atkins, Georgia
LB Ali Highsmith, LSU
LB Jonathan Goff, Vanderbilt
LB Wesley Woodyard, Kentucky
CB Captain Munnerlyn, South Carolina
CB D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt
S Craig Steltz, LSU
S Emanuel Cook, South Carolina

2nd Team Offense

QB Erik Ainge, Tennessee
RB Felix Jones, Arkansas
RB Rafael Little, Kentucky
WR Kenny McKinley, South Carolina
WR DJ Hall, Alabama
ATH Percy Harvin, Florida

2nd Team Defense
Way too many names to sort through right now for me.

Offensive POY -- QB Tim Tebow, Florida
Defensive POY -- DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
Coach of the Year -- Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State

[GeauxTo]

post ur 1st, 2nd, and freshman all-sec teams

offensive POY Tim Tebow, Florida
defensive POY Glenn Dorsey, LSU
coach of the year Sylvester Croom, Miss State

I like these (bold).

[shanksta13]

1st Team All-SEC Offense
QB - Tim Tebow - Florida
RB - Darren McFadden - Arkansas
RB - Knowshon Moreno - Georgia
FB - Peyton Hillis - Arkansas
TE - Jacob Tamme - Kentucky
WR - Earl Bennett - Vanderbilt
WR - DJ Hall - Alabama
OL - Jonathan Luigs - Arkansas
OL - Drew Miller - Florida
OL - Michael Oher - Ole Miss
OL - Fernando Velasco - Georgia
OL - Andre Smith - Alabama
ATH - Percy Harvin - Florida

1st Team All-SEC Defense
DE - Greg Hardy - Ole Miss
DE - Titus Brown - Mississippi State
DT - Glenn Dorsey - LSU
DT - Geno Atkins - Georgia
LB - Wesley Woodyard - Kentucky
LB - Jonathan Goff - Vanderbilt
LB - Ali Highsmith - LSU
CB - DJ Moore - Vanderbilt
CB - Trevard Lindley - Kentucky
S - Emmanuel Cook - South Carolina
S - Craig Steltz - LSU

2nd Team All-SEC Offense
QB - Erik Ainge - Tennessee
RB - Rafael Little - Kentucky
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis - Ole Miss
FB - Brannan Southerland - Georgia
TE - Cornelius Ingram - Florida
WR - Steve Johnson - Kentucky
WR - Kenny McKinley - South Carolina
WR - Andre Caldwell - Florida
OL - Carnell Stewart - LSU
OL - Lee Ziemba - Auburn
OL - Carlton Medder - Florida
OL - Ciron Black - LSU
OL - Josh McNeil - Tennessee
ATH - Felix Jones - Arkansas

2nd Team All-SEC Defense
DE - Jeremy Jarmon - Kentucky
DE - Wallace Gilberry - Alabama
DT - Josh Thompson - Auburn
DT - Marcus Harrison - Arkansas
LB - Jerod Mayo - Tennessee
LB - Brandon Spikes - Florida
LB - Rico McCoy - Tennessee
CB - Dustin Mouzon - Ole Miss
CB - Chevis Jackson - LSU
S - Jonathan Hefney - Tennessee
S - Kelin Johnson - Georgia

1st Team All-SEC Special Teams
KR - Felix Jones - Arkansas
PR - Brandon James - Florida
K - Colt David - LSU
P - Britton Colquitt - Tennessee

2nd Team All-SEC Special Teams
KR - Trindon Holliday - LSU
PR - Javier Arenas - Alabama
K - Daniel Lincoln - Arkansas
P - Patrick Fisher - LSU

Offensive Player of the Year
QB - Tim Tebow - Florida

Defensive Player of the Year
DE - Greg Hardy - Ole Miss

Coach of the Year
Sylvester Croom - Mississippi State



Honorable Mention All-SEC
QB - Andre Woodson - Kentucky
RB - Arian Foster - Tennessee
FB - Carl Stewart - Auburn
WR - Lucas Taylor - Tennessee
WR - Early Doucet - LSU
DE - Eric Norwood - South Carolina
DE - Marcus Howard - Georgia
DE - Derrick Harvey - Florida
LB - Danell Ellerbe - Georgia
CB - Jerraud Powers - Auburn
CB - Captain Munnerlynn - South Carolina
CB - Simeon Castille - Alabama

Freshman Offensive All-SEC Team
QB - Chris Smelley - South Carolina
RB - Knowshon Moreno - Georgia
RB - Terry Grant - Alabama
WR - Demetrius Byrd - LSU
OL - Maurkice Pouncey - Florida
OL - Lee Ziemba - Auburn
OL - Ryan Pugh - Auburn
OL - Trinton Sturdivant - Georgia

Freshman Defensive All-SEC Team
DE - Jermaine Cunningham - Florida
LB - Rolando McClain - Alabama
CB - Kareem Jackson - Alabama
CB - Joe Haden - Florida
CB - Zac Etheridge - Auburn
S - Major Wright - Florida

[reese]

Freshman Offensive All-SEC Team
QB - Chris Smelley - South Carolina


i thought smelly was a sophmore

[shanksta13]

i thought smelly was a sophmore

Nope, he got a medical redshirt and he's now a redshirt freshman.

[reese]

Nope, he got a medical redshirt and he's now a redshirt freshman.

oh ok...so did he get to play some last year then? i thought i remembered seeing him playin last year.

[Gamecocks4Life]

oh ok...so did he get to play some last year then? i thought i remembered seeing him playin last year.

Yeah, he played a little in the first 2 games then he injured his heel in practice and was out the rest of the year.

[reese]

Yeah, he played a little in the first 2 games then he injured his heel in practice and was out the rest of the year.

i remember thinkin he had a pretty nice zip on his throws

[UFGatorFan]

1st team all-sec
QB-STEVEN SPURRIER-UF
RB-EMANUEL MOODY-UF
RB-CIATRICK FASON-UF
WR-JABAR GAFNEY-UF
WR-CHRIS DOERING-UF
FB-TIM TEBOW-UF
TE-BEN TROUPE-UF

DE-JEVON KEARSE-UF
DE-MARCUS THOMAS-UF
DT-BYRAN JONES-UF
DT-KEVIN CARTER-UF
OLB-CHANNING CROWDER-UF
MLB-MIKE PETERSON-UF
OLD-BRENDON BEAL-UF
CB-FRED WEARY-UF
CB-MAJOR WRIGHT-UF
SS-TIM TEBOW-UF
FS-REGINALD NELSON-UF


OFFENSIVE POY-QB-INGLE MARTIN-UF
DEFENSIVE POY-CB-JOSEPH HAYDEN-UF
COACH OF THE YEAR-CHARLIE STRONG

SECOND TEAM DOESNT MATTER...IF YOUR NOT FIRST YOUR LAST

[True Grit]

1st Team All-SEC Offense
QB - Tim Tebow - Florida
RB - Darren McFadden - Arkansas
RB - Knowshon Moreno - Georgia
FB - Peyton Hillis - Arkansas
TE - Jacob Tamme - Kentucky
WR - Earl Bennett - Vanderbilt
WR - DJ Hall - Alabama
OL - Jonathan Luigs - Arkansas
OL - Drew Miller - Florida
OL - Michael Oher - Ole Miss
OL - Fernando Velasco - Georgia
OL - Andre Smith - Alabama
ATH - Percy Harvin - Florida

1st Team All-SEC Defense
DE - Greg Hardy - Ole Miss
DE - Titus Brown - Mississippi State
DT - Glenn Dorsey - LSU
DT - Geno Atkins - Georgia
LB - Wesley Woodyard - Kentucky
LB - Jonathan Goff - Vanderbilt
LB - Ali Highsmith - LSU
CB - DJ Moore - Vanderbilt
CB - Trevard Lindley - Kentucky
S - Emmanuel Cook - South Carolina
S - Craig Steltz - LSU

2nd Team All-SEC Offense
QB - Erik Ainge - Tennessee
RB - Rafael Little - Kentucky
RB - BenJarvus Green-Ellis - Ole Miss
FB - Brannan Southerland - Georgia
TE - Cornelius Ingram - Florida
WR - Steve Johnson - Kentucky
WR - Kenny McKinley - South Carolina
WR - Andre Caldwell - Florida
OL - Carnell Stewart - LSU
OL - Lee Ziemba - Auburn
OL - Carlton Medder - Florida
OL - Ciron Black - LSU
OL - Josh McNeil - Tennessee
ATH - Felix Jones - Arkansas

2nd Team All-SEC Defense
DE - Jeremy Jarmon - Kentucky
DE - Wallace Gilberry - Alabama
DT - Josh Thompson - Auburn
DT - Marcus Harrison - Arkansas
LB - Jerod Mayo - Tennessee
LB - Brandon Spikes - Florida
LB - Rico McCoy - Tennessee
CB - Dustin Mouzon - Ole Miss
CB - Chevis Jackson - LSU
S - Jonathan Hefney - Tennessee
S - Kelin Johnson - Georgia

1st Team All-SEC Special Teams
KR - Felix Jones - Arkansas
PR - Brandon James - Florida
K - Colt David - LSU
P - Britton Colquitt - Tennessee

2nd Team All-SEC Special Teams
KR - Trindon Holliday - LSU
PR - Javier Arenas - Alabama
K - Daniel Lincoln - Arkansas
P - Patrick Fisher - LSU

Offensive Player of the Year
QB - Tim Tebow - Florida

Defensive Player of the Year
DE - Greg Hardy - Ole Miss

Coach of the Year
Sylvester Croom - Mississippi State



Honorable Mention All-SEC
QB - Andre Woodson - Kentucky
RB - Arian Foster - Tennessee
FB - Carl Stewart - Auburn
WR - Lucas Taylor - Tennessee
WR - Early Doucet - LSU
DE - Eric Norwood - South Carolina
DE - Marcus Howard - Georgia
DE - Derrick Harvey - Florida
LB - Danell Ellerbe - Georgia
CB - Jerraud Powers - Auburn
CB - Captain Munnerlynn - South Carolina
CB - Simeon Castille - Alabama

Freshman Offensive All-SEC Team
QB - Chris Smelley - South Carolina
RB - Knowshon Moreno - Georgia
RB - Terry Grant - Alabama
WR - Demetrius Byrd - LSU
OL - Maurkice Pouncey - Florida
OL - Lee Ziemba - Auburn
OL - Ryan Pugh - Auburn
OL - Trinton Sturdivant - Georgia

Freshman Defensive All-SEC Team
DE - Jermaine Cunningham - Florida
LB - Rolando McClain - Alabama
CB - Kareem Jackson - Alabama
CB - Joe Haden - Florida
CB - Zac Etheridge - Auburn
S - Major Wright - Florida


There is no way in hell Carnell Stewart should be All SEC. Pretty much ruins your list. Also, Byrd isnt a freshman and how does Brett Helms not get at least an honorable mention?

[BAMAPERRY]

Freshman player of the year - Rolando McClain

Dude is gonna be a beast!

[DEHIII]

Freshman player of the year - Rolando McClain

Dude is gonna be a beast!

Get ready for a beat down for that stupid statement (at least the 1st part). He is going to be a beast but there is no doubt the Freshman of the Year is Moreno.

Batton down the hatches. :laugh:

[BAMAPERRY]

Get ready for a beat down for that stupid statement (at least the 1st part). He is going to be a beast but there is no doubt the Freshman of the Year is Moreno.

Batton down the hatches. :laugh:

SCREW GRADY!

:laugh:

[lacene]

1st Team Offense

QB Tim Tebow, Florida
RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
RB Knowshon Mareno, Georgia
WR Kenny McKinley, South Carolina
WR Steve Johnson, Kentucky
TE Cornelius Ingram, Florida

OT I have no idea


1st Team Defense

DE Titus Brown, Mississippi State
DE Quentin Groves, Auburn
DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
DT Geno Atkins, Georgia
LB Ali Highsmith, LSU
LB Jonathan Goff, Vanderbilt
LB Wesley Woodyard, Kentucky
CB Rashad Johnson, Alabama
CB D.J. Moore, Vanderbilt
S Craig Steltz, LSU
S Emanuel Cook, South Carolina

2nd Team Offense

QB Erik Ainge, Tennessee
RB Felix Jones, Arkansas
RB Arian Foster, Tennessee
WR DJ Hall, Alabama
WR Percy Harvin, Florida
TE - Jacob Tamme - Kentucky

Freshman All-SEC

QB Wesley Carroll, Mississippi State
RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia
RB Terry Grant, Alabama
WR Dion Lecorn, South Carolina


Offensive POY -- QB Tim Tebow, Florida
Defensive POY -- DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
Coach of the Year -- Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State

[lacene]

There is no way in hell Carnell Stewart should be All SEC. Pretty much ruins your list. Also, Byrd isnt a freshman and how does Brett Helms not get at least an honorable mention?

This is just our opinions, this thread isn't here for some to use to attack others. Why don't you post your list, instead of critiquing others'?


Altho you're right about Byrd: he's a junior....

[shanksta13]

There is no way in hell Carnell Stewart should be All SEC. Pretty much ruins your list. Also, Byrd isnt a freshman and how does Brett Helms not get at least an honorable mention?

Pretty simple, in the games I've seen Carnell Stewart has been better than Helms. As far as Byrd, I was just trying to think of freshman off of the top of my head. You're right, now that I think of it, he's a JUCO transfer right?

[True Grit]

1st Team

QB- Tim Tebow - UF
RB- McFadden - Ark
RB- Moreno - UGA
FB- Hillis - FB
WR- DJ Hall - Bama
WR- Percy Harvin - UF
TE- Tamme - UK
C- Luigs - Ark
OL- Oher- Ole Miss
OL- Andre Smith- Bama
OL- Drew Miller - UF
OL- Fernando Velasco - UGA

DE- Gerg Hardy - Ole Miss
DT- Glenn Dorsey - LSU
DT- Geno Atkins - UGA
DE- Greg Hardy - Ole Miss
LB- Ali Highsmith - LSU
LB- Jonathan Goff - Vandy
LB- Wesley Woodard - UK
CB- Simeon Castille - Bama
CB- DJ Moore - Bama
SS- Craig Steltz - LSU
FS- Emmanuel Cook - SC

2nd Team

QB- Andre Woodson - UK
RB - Felix Jones - Ark
RB- Ben Jarvis Green Ellis - Ole Miss
FB- Carl Stewart - Auburn
WR- Earl Bennet - Vandy
WR- Kenny McKinnley - SC
TE- Cornelis Ingram - UF
C- Brett Helms - LSU
OL- Ciron Black - LSU
OL- Carlon Meddor - UF
OL- Josh McNeil - Tennessee
OL- Herman Johnson - LSU

DE- Titus Brown - MSU
DE- Wallace Gilberry - Bama
DT- Josh Thompson - Auburn
DT- Marcus Harrison - Ark
LB- Jerod Mayo - Tennessee
LB- Darry Beckwith - LSU
LB- Prince Hall - Bama
DB- Chevis Jackson - LSU
DB- Trevard Lindley - UK
S- Kelin Johnson - UGA
S- Jonathan Heffney - Tennessee

Special Teams:
K- Colt David - LSU
P- Britton Colquitt - Tennessee
KR- Felix Jones - Arkansas
PR- Brandon James - UF

Honorable Mention for All- SEC:
LB- Brandon Spikes - UF
QB- Erik Ainge- Tennessee
DE- Kirtson Pittman - LSU
WR - Early Doucet - LSU
DE - Eric Norwood - South Carolina
DE - Marcus Howard - Georgia
DE - Derrick Harvey - Florida
RB - Arian Foster - Tennessee
WR- Lucas Taylor - Tennessee
WR- Andre Caldwell - UF

Freshman Team:
QB- Chris Smelley - SC
RB - Terry Grant - Bama
WR- Terrance Toliver - LSU
OL - Maurkice Pouncey - Florida
OL - Lee Ziemba - Auburn
OL - Ryan Pugh - Auburn
OL - Trinton Sturdivant - Georgia
DE - Jermaine Cunningham - Florida
DT- Drake Nevis - LSU
LB - Rolando McClain - Alabama
CB - Kareem Jackson - Alabama
CB - Joe Haden - Florida
CB - Zac Etheridge - Auburn
S - Major Wright - Florida
S- Chad Jones - LSU

Coach of the Year - Sylvester Croom - MSU
DPOY - Glenn Dorsey - LSU
OPOY- Tim Tebow - UF
Newcomer of the Year- Eric Berry - Tennessee

[True Grit]

Pretty simple, in the games I've seen Carnell Stewart has been better than Helms. As far as Byrd, I was just trying to think of freshman off of the top of my head. You're right, now that I think of it, he's a JUCO transfer right?

Carnell Stewart is easily the worst person our line while Helms is easily the best. Dont know what games you have been watching.

And yes, Byrd is a JUCO transfer.

[lacene]

1st Team

QB- Tim Tebow - UF
RB- McFadden - Ark
RB- Moreno - UGA
FB- Hillis - FB
WR- DJ Hall - Bama
WR- Percy Harvin - UF
TE- Tamme - UK
C- Luigs - Ark
OL- Oher- Ole Miss
OL- Andre Smith- Bama
OL- Drew Miller - UF
OL- Fernando Velasco - UGA

DE- Gerg Hardy - Ole Miss
DT- Glenn Dorsey - LSU
DT- Geno Atkins - UGA
DE- Greg Hardy - Ole Miss
LB- Ali Highsmith - LSU
LB- Jonathan Goff - Vandy
LB- Wesley Woodard - UK
CB- Simeon Castille - Bama
CB- DJ Moore - Bama
SS- Craig Steltz - LSU
FS- Emmanuel Cook - SC

2nd Team

QB- Andre Woodson - UK
RB - Felix Jones - Ark
RB- Ben Jarvis Green Ellis - Ole Miss
FB- Carl Stewart - Auburn
WR- Earl Bennet - Vandy
WR- Kenny McKinnley - SC
TE- Cornelis Ingram - UF
C- Brett Helms - LSU
OL- Ciron Black - LSU
OL- Carlon Meddor - UF
OL- Josh McNeil - Tennessee
OL- Herman Johnson - LSU

DE- Titus Brown - MSU
DE- Wallace Gilberry - Bama
DT- Josh Thompson - Auburn
DT- Marcus Harrison - Ark
LB- Jerod Mayo - Tennessee
LB- Darry Beckwith - LSU
LB- Prince Hall - Bama
DB- Chevis Jackson - LSU
DB- Trevard Lindley - UK
S- Kelin Johnson - UGA
S- Jonathan Heffney - Tennessee

Special Teams:
K- Colt David - LSU
P- Britton Colquitt - Tennessee
KR- Felix Jones - Arkansas
PR- Brandon James - UF

Honorable Mention for All- SEC:
LB- Brandon Spikes - UF
QB- Erik Ainge- Tennessee
DE- Kirtson Pittman - LSU
WR - Early Doucet - LSU
DE - Eric Norwood - South Carolina
DE - Marcus Howard - Georgia
DE - Derrick Harvey - Florida
RB - Arian Foster - Tennessee
WR- Lucas Taylor - Tennessee
WR- Andre Caldwell - UF

Freshman Team:
QB- Chris Smelley - SC
RB - Terry Grant - Bama
WR- Terrance Toliver - LSU
OL - Maurkice Pouncey - Florida
OL - Lee Ziemba - Auburn
OL - Ryan Pugh - Auburn
OL - Trinton Sturdivant - Georgia
DE - Jermaine Cunningham - Florida
DT- Drake Nevis - LSU
LB - Rolando McClain - Alabama
CB - Kareem Jackson - Alabama
CB - Joe Haden - Florida
CB - Zac Etheridge - Auburn
S - Major Wright - Florida
S- Chad Jones - LSU

Coach of the Year - Sylvester Croom - MSU
DPOY - Glenn Dorsey - LSU
OPOY- Tim Tebow - UF
Newcomer of the Year- Eric Berry - Tennessee

Now, can we critique YOUR listing? :D Do you have a man love for Greg Hardy??? :laugh:

[Bulldog Bry]

I would just like to point out that we had NO ONE on the pre-season All-SEC list. 'ts been a great year.

I don't know enough about other teams to even begin to draw up a list like this.

[Neyland's Ghost]

1st Team

QB- Tim Tebow - UF
RB- McFadden - Ark
RB- Moreno - UGA
FB- Hillis - FB
WR- DJ Hall - Bama
WR- Percy Harvin - UF
TE- Tamme - UK
C- Luigs - Ark
OL- Oher- Ole Miss
OL- Andre Smith- Bama
OL- Drew Miller - UF
OL- Fernando Velasco - UGA

DE- Gerg Hardy - Ole Miss
DT- Glenn Dorsey - LSU
DT- Geno Atkins - UGA
DE- Greg Hardy - Ole Miss
LB- Ali Highsmith - LSU
LB- Jonathan Goff - Vandy
LB- Wesley Woodard - UK
CB- Simeon Castille - Bama
CB- DJ Moore - Bama
SS- Craig Steltz - LSU
FS- Emmanuel Cook - SC

2nd Team

QB- Andre Woodson - UK
RB - Felix Jones - Ark
RB- Ben Jarvis Green Ellis - Ole Miss
FB- Carl Stewart - Auburn
WR- Earl Bennet - Vandy
WR- Kenny McKinnley - SC
TE- Cornelis Ingram - UF
C- Brett Helms - LSU
OL- Ciron Black - LSU
OL- Carlon Meddor - UF
OL- Josh McNeil - Tennessee
OL- Herman Johnson - LSU

DE- Titus Brown - MSU
DE- Wallace Gilberry - Bama
DT- Josh Thompson - Auburn
DT- Marcus Harrison - Ark
LB- Jerod Mayo - Tennessee
LB- Darry Beckwith - LSU
LB- Prince Hall - Bama
DB- Chevis Jackson - LSU
DB- Trevard Lindley - UK
S- Kelin Johnson - UGA
S- Jonathan Heffney - Tennessee

Special Teams:
K- Colt David - LSU
P- Britton Colquitt - Tennessee
KR- Felix Jones - Arkansas
PR- Brandon James - UF

Honorable Mention for All- SEC:
LB- Brandon Spikes - UF
QB- Erik Ainge- Tennessee
DE- Kirtson Pittman - LSU
WR - Early Doucet - LSU
DE - Eric Norwood - South Carolina
DE - Marcus Howard - Georgia
DE - Derrick Harvey - Florida
RB - Arian Foster - Tennessee
WR- Lucas Taylor - Tennessee
WR- Andre Caldwell - UF

Freshman Team:
QB- Chris Smelley - SC
RB - Terry Grant - Bama
WR- Terrance Toliver - LSU
OL - Maurkice Pouncey - Florida
OL - Lee Ziemba - Auburn
OL - Ryan Pugh - Auburn
OL - Trinton Sturdivant - Georgia
DE - Jermaine Cunningham - Florida
DT- Drake Nevis - LSU
LB - Rolando McClain - Alabama
CB - Kareem Jackson - Alabama
CB - Joe Haden - Florida
CB - Zac Etheridge - Auburn
S - Major Wright - Florida
S- Chad Jones - LSU

Coach of the Year - Sylvester Croom - MSU
DPOY - Glenn Dorsey - LSU
OPOY- Tim Tebow - UF
Newcomer of the Year- Eric Berry - Tennessee


How is Eric Berry newcomer of the year but he is not on your all sec freshman team?

[shanksta13]

How is Eric Berry newcomer of the year but he is not on your all sec freshman team?

Wow, I think I left Berry off of my freshman team as well. Definitely an oversight, he was easily one of the top 3 that came to mind for any position along with Moreno and Grant. That's an oops on my part, sorry Tennessee fans. :sad:

[DEHIII]

Just want to point out something very quickly: (1) For Alabama, Rashad Johnson is a safety and is tied for the SEC lead in Ints (2) Simeon Castille does not deserve to be on any list. He has played like crap this year. He had the hype before the year and didn't live up to it IMO. Our best CB by far has been the freshman Kareem Jackson.

[carwwest]

im glad lacene put carroll from miss state on the freshman list....i dont understand how smelley could be above him.... carroll played in every game this year and set a couple records....i understand it is miss state and all but carroll is a TRUE freshman that led miss state to its best record and first bowl bid in 7 years....and state finished with a better record and carroll threw for more yards fewer int's and ran for more....