IF Oklahoma beats Missouri...

[D^3]

How badly would it piss you off to see Ohio State make it to the NC game? We all talked about how they were a weak #1, and were relieved when Illinois finally exposed them and they dropped out of contention (or so we thought). So for the past 2 weeks they have sat idle while the rest of the nation's teams duke it out and play hard-nosed football..... and now tOSU could get a backdoor into the big game due to inactivity.

Personally I would be extremely pissed and feel cheated, because that would leave my Dawgs at #3 and one away from the big game... and I feel we would be much more deserving as contenders, given the strength of our schedule.


Your thoughts?

[D^3]

Anybody?...

[GatorBait15]

I dont want to watch osu get there ass beat again..No matter what this years game is going to suck arse haha : (

[U-Dub Gamecock]

If that happens.. LETS GO.... MOUNTAINEERS.. LETS GOOOOO DRINK SOME BEERS!!

[gatorunvrsty]

Well, I don't think it'll happen; but, if it does, I don't think they'd match up well with WVU. And, that'd make a poor NCG; when there are at least 3 other teams that would make a better game, IMO. We'll have to see how the BCS rankings look this week, but LSU didn't fall far in the AP poll. If they somehow manage to hang around #5 in the BCS, Big 10 inactivity could conceivably come back to haunt them again this year. UF jumped UM by playing for, and winning, a conference championship. If LSU blows UT out by a considerable margin, they could jump tOSU while they stay idle. Again, the only way this happens is if LSU stays quite close to the top, and at no worse than #5. LSU has a significantly higher SOS.

[D^3]

Well, I don't think it'll happen; but, if it does, I don't think they'd match up well with WVU. And, that'd make a poor NCG; when there are at least 3 other teams that would make a better game, IMO. We'll have to see how the BCS rankings look this week, but LSU didn't fall far in the AP poll. If they somehow manage to hang around #5 in the BCS, Big 10 inactivity could conceivably come back to haunt them again this year. UF jumped UM by playing for, and winning, a conference championship. If LSU blows UT out by a considerable margin, they could jump tOSU while they stay idle. Again, the only way this happens is if LSU stays quite close to the top, and at no worse than #5. LSU has a significantly higher SOS.

Yes but LSU fell to 7 in the coaches poll, which is the poll averaged into the BCS formula.

[gatorunvrsty]

Yes but LSU fell to 7 in the coaches poll, which is the poll averaged into the BCS formula.

They're both averaged into the BCS formula. 1/3 is the AP poll; 1/3 is the coach's poll, and 1/3 is the computer rankings that take everything (including SOS) into account. The computer ranking is actually 6 additional independent ranking services.

EDIT: Scratch that. The AP backed out this year. The second poll used is the Harris Interactive.

[D^3]

They're both averaged into the poll. 1/3 is the AP poll; 1/3 is the coach's poll, and 1/3 is the computer rankings that take everything (including SOS) into account. The computer ranking is actually 6 additional independent ranking services.


Ehhh I don't think that's right, I'm pretty sure that the AP was removed from the BCS formula a couple of years ago. Be right back after I look it up.

UPDATE: Yup, The AP prohibited the BCS from including it's rankings in it's formula.

[KillerNut]

Funny how the only people bitching about the possibility of tOSU being in the NC game are Georgia fans. BTW, Georgia looked very very lackluster yesterday playing Georgia Tech. Hardly impressive at all. Fact is, you don't know how good we are because the only thing you have to go on is our debacle in the NC game last year. That was a fluke and while Florida was definitely the better team, the score would not be 41-14 like it was last year. BTW, Tennessee has hardly been impressive either this year and didn't they blow your doors off? West Virginia plays NOBODY, and there schedule is IMHO weaker than tOSU's. They have been taken to the wire a couple of times by very average Big East teams. If UConn can hold WVU in check for a half why wouldn't you think that tOSU can do it for the whole game? The point is, West Virginia is not that good as everyone takes them to be. They would get manhandled in the SEC and by most top tier powerhouse teams and if we play them, you'll find that out first hand. And to be honest, I think WVU and tOSU would be an exciting game........For a half. I so bad want the Buckeyes to shut up all the haters that judge us on a one game performance.

[D^3]

Funny how the only people bitching about the possibility of tOSU being in the NC game are Georgia fans.


Actually, it's everybody in the nation. Which is why I didn't read the rest of your post, because you're too bull-headed to try and argue with.

[KillerNut]

because you're head is too far up your ass to try and argue with you.

Just like most of the Georgia posters on this board.


Sorry, did I piss the little baby off? BTW, I have heard no complaining from anyone except from you and Grady. What does that say.

[gatorunvrsty]

Unfortunately, this is the Harris Interactive.

Missouri (57)
West Virginia (45)
Ohio State (11)
Georgia
LSU
Kansas
Virginia Tech
Oklahoma
USC
Hawaii (1)
Florida
Boston College
Arizona State
Illinois
Tennessee
Wisconsin
Texas
Clemson
Oregon
Cincinnati
Boise State
Virginia
Auburn
South Florida

As far as UGA is concerned, it might as well be the AP. The teams we're talking about are the same in both.

[D^3]

Just like most of the Georgia posters on this board.


Sorry, did I piss the little baby off? BTW, I have heard no complaining from anyone except from you and Grady. What does that say.


If you really believe that the only people that have a problem with OSU in the National Title game are Georgia fans, then you are delusional.

[KillerNut]

If you really believe that the only people that have a problem with OSU in the National Title game are Georgia fans, then you are delusional.

There must be a lot of dumbass people in Georgia. :brick:

[D^3]

There must be a lot of dumbass people in Georgia. :brick:

Who's the dumbass??? Your team has NEVER beaten an SEC team in a bowl... yet you could go to the National Championship game for NO OTHER REASON other than that you sit idle for weeks while the REAL teams in the country duke it out. Big Ten sucks... and OSU sucks.

[Tennessee Ted]

I really think Missouri wins next week. They looked pretty impressive to me. Either way I could really care less. Does anyone honestly believe West Virginia is number 1, Missouri #2, and OSU #3? It is going to be a lame national championship game that I will watch only out of mild curiosity.

[KillerNut]

I really think Missouri wins next week. They looked pretty impressive to me. Either way I could really care less. Does anyone honestly believe West Virginia is number 1, Missouri #2, and OSU #3? It is going to be a lame national championship game that I will watch only out of mild curiosity.

Well if Missouri wins then we will not have to worry about all this tOSU or UGA talk. You guys might all consider it lame because there is not an SEC team involved but LSU, UF, and others have all had their chance. I will agree that LSU is still the best all around team in the nation by far. But wouldn't be cool to either see WVU and Missouri play for the NC? Its a lot different from the same normal powerhouse teams playing every year.

[Chinaski]

Lets be honest, a lot of SEC fans including me myself, might look a little arrogant to others, i am not gonna deny that. The thing is, we really think talentwise the SEC is something special and we are not even wrong. We have a hard time accepting the average to play in the NCG regardless of their record. We would love to see all those 11-1 teams with a real joke of a schedule to play in SEC for one single season. I am honest with you, i really believe if they had to play in SEC Kansas would end up 6-6 at best, Missouri 7-5, OSU 7-5, WV 5-7...they all would end up losing to LSU, Georgia, Tennesse, Auburn, Kentucky...and sometimes even to teams like Alabama, Arkansas, MSU...

This is why i really dont care who plays who in the NCG aslong as there is no SEC team participating. Now really just imagine WV and OSU going at it and all those LSU players watching it on TV and just asking themselves about why the hell they have to play in such a competitive conference where on a good day everybody is able to beat the best in the country.

I am gonna watch the NCG just for the sake of football and just because i love this game. Not more and not less.

[shanksta13]

Personally, I think Mizzou is going to take it to Oklahoma. With a National Championship on the line and already having lost to the Sooners once, they've got all the motivation in the world. It's very tough to beat the same team twice in one season.

[volimhtown]

Actually, it's everybody in the nation. Which is why I didn't read the rest of your post, because you're too bull-headed to try and argue with.

Holy Crap!!! That's hilarious! :laugh:

Pot?? Kettle?? :thumpsup:

MsMasengill,
I've got to say that your posts and specifically your ignorant thoughts are getting more and more irritating by the day. I agree with you that the possibility of having Ohio State play in the NT game certainly doesn't excite me. That said however, I also acknowledge the fact that NOBODY (who plays on the mainland, anyway :wink:) has done what they need to do to EARN the right to play for a National Title....especially Georgia!! You know, you want to trash OSU over the possibility of the Bucks benefitting from now "sitting", yet you also want to make the argument that Georgia should benefit from the same?? Talk about hypocracy!! Furthermore, how in your right mind do you suggest that Georgia is more deserving than either LSU or Tennessee?? They are the ones actually PLAYING for the SEC Championship right?? I mean, if your argument is that more "weight" or "credit" should be placed with Georgia because they play in the brutal SEC, wouldn't it stand to reason that the actual Champion of that conference would, by definition, be more deserving than Georgia?? I mean, call me crazy, but you're talking out both sides of your a$$....but then again, you're too "bullheaded" to see that.

Here's the bottom line....I don't care how "down" the Big 10 is, a one loss Big 10 Champion > a 2 loss SEC #3 every day of the week and is CERTAINLY more deserving for s shot at a NT!! :thumpsup:

[KillerNut]

Holy Crap!!! That's hilarious! :laugh:

Pot?? Kettle?? :thumpsup:

MsMasengill,
I've got to say that your posts and specifically your ignorant thoughts are getting more and more irritating by the day. I agree with you that the possibility of having Ohio State play in the NT game certainly doesn't excite me. That said however, I also acknowledge the fact that NOBODY (who plays on the mainland, anyway :wink:) has done what they need to do to EARN the right to play for a National Title....especially Georgia!! You know, you want to trash OSU over the possibility of the Bucks benefitting from now "sitting", yet you also want to make the argument that Georgia should benefit from the same?? Talk about hypocracy!! Furthermore, how in your right mind do you suggest that Georgia is more deserving than either LSU or Tennessee?? They are the ones actually PLAYING for the SEC Championship right?? I mean, if your argument is that more "weight" or "credit" should be placed with Georgia because they play in the brutal SEC, wouldn't it stand to reason that the actual Champion of that conference would, by definition, be more deserving than Georgia?? I mean, call me crazy, but you're talking out both sides of your a$$....but then again, you're too "bullheaded" to see that.

Here's the bottom line....I don't care how "down" the Big 10 is, a one loss Big 10 Champion > a 2 loss SEC #3 every day of the week and is CERTAINLY more deserving for s shot at a NT!! :thumpsup:


3d like Grady, is mad that they are not playing in the NC game. You made a good point when you said that a conference champion should have the first right to play in the NC game no matter who they are. During this year, no single team has looked impressive. Georgia just wants redemption againist WVU for beating them a few years ago in the bowl game. Whats with all of these Georgia fans getting upset that Stafford and Moreno are not being mentioned for every single award. While they will be good, they are hardly the best in the nation right now at their respective positions. I had to laugh when I saw Grady's post stating that Knowshon Moreno should win the Heisman. What an idiot and what a joke. There are at least 20 RBs that have just as good of stats if not better.

[ugamcrae]

Funny how the only people bitching about the possibility of tOSU being in the NC game are Georgia fans. BTW, Georgia looked very very lackluster yesterday playing Georgia Tech. Hardly impressive at all. Fact is, you don't know how good we are because the only thing you have to go on is our debacle in the NC game last year. That was a fluke and while Florida was definitely the better team, the score would not be 41-14 like it was last year. BTW, Tennessee has hardly been impressive either this year and didn't they blow your doors off? West Virginia plays NOBODY, and there schedule is IMHO weaker than tOSU's. They have been taken to the wire a couple of times by very average Big East teams. If UConn can hold WVU in check for a half why wouldn't you think that tOSU can do it for the whole game? The point is, West Virginia is not that good as everyone takes them to be. They would get manhandled in the SEC and by most top tier powerhouse teams and if we play them, you'll find that out first hand. And to be honest, I think WVU and tOSU would be an exciting game........For a half. I so bad want the Buckeyes to shut up all the haters that judge us on a one game performance.

After last year, OSU fans should probably shut the hell up about any team in the sec thet beats down UF. But if you did, it would be a lot less entertaining around here. BTW, GAtech and Tennessee would both stomp your pathetic weak conference dominating butt. :laugh:

I agree with you on one thing though, stafford is overrated. But when he shows up, no team in the nation can touch us.

[D^3]

MsMasengill,



I don't know who the f**k MsMasengill is, but you seem to be confused about who you are addressing... and I would appreciate you getting it right, lest I decide to also refer to you by the incorrect name. Like, vagina.



Here's the bottom line....


The bottom line is you didn't read the original post very well, because I didn't state that it should be Georgia... I asked how everyone felt about Ohio State moving into it only because they sat idle the past few weeks. Yes, I believe Georgia is more deserving, yet I also find it highly unlikely because we won't play in the SECCG. If you actually took the time to read what I say instead of jizzing all over yourself to start typing your typical BS, you would see that I've noted that. The issue was not whether Georgia should be in the NC game, the issue was is it fair that Ohio State after being eliminated from contention, gets back in it simply because they move up in rankings due to inactivity.


I don't care how "down" the Big 10 is, a one loss Big 10 Champion > a 2 loss SEC #3 every day of the week and is CERTAINLY more deserving for s shot at a NT!! :thumpsup:

And the above statement makes you idiot of the year.

[Bulldog Bry]

Just think.

If we had a playoff, we would miss all of these type arguments. Though I'm sure we could bitch about how crappy our "draw" was............

I do think there should be some uniformity to how conference champs are decided. Either everyone should have a CCG or no one should.

Also, one thing that does tick me off. I don't really think that a team that has NOT won a conference championship should be in the NC game, but (if all the stars aligned) if Georgia had a shot, it would be bunk to make them the example and exclude the Dawgs now when others weren't excluded before. It should be a rule, so make it a rule - but not mid-season.

[KillerNut]

After last year, OSU fans should probably shut the hell up about any team in the sec thet beats down UF. But if you did, it would be a lot less entertaining around here. BTW, GAtech and Tennessee would both stomp your pathetic weak conference dominating butt. :laugh:

I agree with you on one thing though, stafford is overrated. But when he shows up, no team in the nation can touch us.

Georgia Tech win the Big 10? :laugh: Thats the most ridiculous statement that I've heard yet. They are a average team in a weak conference and they gave you fits last saturday. If Georgia plays like they did saturday, they won't beat any good opponent in a bowl game. BTW, since when does last year carry over to this year?

I don't know who the f**k MsMasengill is, but you seem to be confused about who you are addressing... and I would appreciate you getting it right, lest I decide to also refer to you by the incorrect name. Like, vagina.



The bottom line is you didn't read the original post very well, because I didn't state that it should be Georgia... I asked how everyone felt about Ohio State moving into it only because they sat idle the past few weeks. Yes, I believe Georgia is more deserving, yet I also find it highly unlikely because we won't play in the SECCG. If you actually took the time to read what I say instead of jizzing all over yourself to start typing your typical BS, you would see that I've noted that. The issue was not whether Georgia should be in the NC game, the issue was is it fair that Ohio State after being eliminated from contention, gets back in it simply because they move up in rankings due to inactivity.



And the above statement makes you idiot of the year.

Man, I really think the both of you Bulldog fans should calm down before you end up like Grady. Its just football, its not a matter of life and death. Georgia did not win their conference, therefore does not deserve a shot at the NC. tOSU cannot help that their season ended last week nor should they be penalized over it. Georgia will still make a BCS bowl which is still a very respectable feat.

[D^3]

Georgia did not win their conference, therefore does not deserve a shot at the NC.

Georgia did not get a CHANCE to win our conference, because we finished tied as co-champions of the East, but no title shot because Tennessee won the tie-breaker. And if Oklahoma gets to play for the Nat'l title when they LOSE their conference championship game, then by god, Georgia deserves a shot.

[volimhtown]

Just think.

If we had a playoff, we would miss all of these type arguments. Though I'm sure we could bitch about how crappy our "draw" was............

I do think there should be some uniformity to how conference champs are decided. Either everyone should have a CCG or no one should.

Also, one thing that does tick me off. I don't really think that a team that has NOT won a conference championship should be in the NC game, but (if all the stars aligned) if Georgia had a shot, it would be bunk to make them the example and exclude the Dawgs now when others weren't excluded before. It should be a rule, so make it a rule - but not mid-season.

You just have to be the voice of reason, don't ya?? :laugh::thumpsup:

I will say this....if we had a playoff system, Georgia's the LAST team in the country I'd want to play right now. It really is a shame and continues to be an embarrassment that the 2nd biggest "sport" in our country does not decide it's champion on the field. That is the ONLY good thing about our current state of affairs with as debatable as everything is...hopefully it will lead to a playoff system.

With regards to "the stars alligning" and Georgia being excluded, I understand the sentiment, but feel that BETTER happen should all things "work out". Regardless of the circumstances, it will be a HUGE injustice should Georgia get a sniff at the NT game....especially if LSU wins the SECCG and especially if Hawaii is still sitting there undefeated. And, the precedent was set just last year....Michigan was kept out of the NT game for that very reason so Georgia wouldn't be "the first". We are talking about a TWO loss team in Georgia...that's the deal-breaker for me. A one loss team I've no problem with, but a two loss team, especially if there are other BCS conference teams that are undefeated or have only one loss, I just don't think you can make a case under any circumstances!! JMHO!!

[Bburton86]

Your team has NEVER beaten an SEC team in a bowl... yet you could go to the National Championship game for NO OTHER REASON other than that you sit idle for weeks while the REAL teams in the country duke it out. Big Ten sucks... and OSU sucks.

Post of the year.

[RebelsRule10]

Funny how the only people bitching about the possibility of tOSU being in the NC game are Georgia fans. BTW, Georgia looked very very lackluster yesterday playing Georgia Tech. Hardly impressive at all. Fact is, you don't know how good we are because the only thing you have to go on is our debacle in the NC game last year. That was a fluke and while Florida was definitely the better team, the score would not be 41-14 like it was last year. BTW, Tennessee has hardly been impressive either this year and didn't they blow your doors off? West Virginia plays NOBODY, and there schedule is IMHO weaker than tOSU's. They have been taken to the wire a couple of times by very average Big East teams. If UConn can hold WVU in check for a half why wouldn't you think that tOSU can do it for the whole game? The point is, West Virginia is not that good as everyone takes them to be. They would get manhandled in the SEC and by most top tier powerhouse teams and if we play them, you'll find that out first hand. And to be honest, I think WVU and tOSU would be an exciting game........For a half. I so bad want the Buckeyes to shut up all the haters that judge us on a one game performance.


Reading that sort of reminds me what the Buckeyes looked like last year against the Gators !

[Bulldog Bry]

With regards to "the stars alligning" and Georgia being excluded, I understand the sentiment, but feel that BETTER happen should all things "work out". Regardless of the circumstances, it will be a HUGE injustice should Georgia get a sniff at the NT game....especially if LSU wins the SECCG and especially if Hawaii is still sitting there undefeated. And, the precedent was set just last year....Michigan was kept out of the NT game for that very reason so Georgia wouldn't be "the first". We are talking about a TWO loss team in Georgia...that's the deal-breaker for me. A one loss team I've no problem with, but a two loss team, especially if there are other BCS conference teams that are undefeated or have only one loss, I just don't think you can make a case under any circumstances!! JMHO!!

Actually it's kind of different for two reasons. One, Michigan and Ohio State already played last year (at the end of the year at that), I think that was the main reason pollsters didn't match them up. Two, Florida was playing exceptional football at the end of the year - including a double digit win over then #8 Arkansas.
Plus, since we're throwing Hawaii out of the equation (and I'm not saying that's right, that's just the way it is; fans are not the ones that have them ranked at #12), all the other teams are one loss teams. Let's say Mizzou loses and West Virginia loses. Who's left? Kansas? Give me a break. Don't rank them below Georgia "unless it's for NC purposes". It's Ohio State (with one loss) again and a bunch of two loss teams. Then say LSU and the Hokies lose next week. Now you're down to what is now an eighth or ninth rated BCS team this week, who will play for the National Championship - all with two losses. Last year, Ohio State was undefeated and there were other viable options - one loss teams. That's not the case this year.
(keep in mind, I don't think any of this will happen, but we saw that the BCS can be unprepared - they had to expand the eligibility just this month).
My original point is that they SHOULD require conference championships for the BCS NC game. But it's NOT a requirement, so it's wrong to penalize the Dawgs because someone EVENTUALLY wants to make it a rule.
Changing rules for inclusion = good
Changing rules for exclusion = bad

[FanSmack]

It's a shame LSU lost and UK lost otherwise UGA could have had a shot at this.

[GatorNation]

How badly would it piss you off to see Ohio State make it to the NC game? We all talked about how they were a weak #1, and were relieved when Illinois finally exposed them and they dropped out of contention (or so we thought). So for the past 2 weeks they have sat idle while the rest of the nation's teams duke it out and play hard-nosed football..... and now tOSU could get a backdoor into the big game due to inactivity.

Personally I would be extremely pissed and feel cheated, because that would leave my Dawgs at #3 and one away from the big game... and I feel we would be much more deserving as contenders, given the strength of our schedule.


Your thoughts?


It wouldn't bother me. They did what they needed to do (lose less games), and everyone else stumbled.

It happens.

[bigsexxxy]

It wouldn't bother me. They did what they needed to do (lose less games), and everyone else stumbled.

It happens.

Exactly. It wouldn't bother me at all. All of you UGA fans need to get over it. Sorry that tOSU doesn't play in a conference with a championship game.

No team that lost to a 6-6 South Carolina and got stomped by 3 TDs by Tennessee deserves to play for the National Title.

Maybe if the Georgia players wanted it so bad, they shouldn't have lost to those two teams? Just a thought, don't get your collective panties in a wad.

[geechee]

How badly would it piss you off to see Ohio State make it to the NC game? We all talked about how they were a weak #1, and were relieved when Illinois finally exposed them and they dropped out of contention (or so we thought). So for the past 2 weeks they have sat idle while the rest of the nation's teams duke it out and play hard-nosed football..... and now tOSU could get a backdoor into the big game due to inactivity.

Personally I would be extremely pissed and feel cheated, because that would leave my Dawgs at #3 and one away from the big game... and I feel we would be much more deserving as contenders, given the strength of our schedule.


Your thoughts?

I'm all for it. If Ohio State makes the NC then they will likely be replaced in the Rose Bowl by UGA. If UGA can beat USC in the Rose Bowl then our recruiting, which is already pretty damn good, goes through the roof.

[muttley1211]

We have 2 losses, they have 1. They should be ahead of us. The only way we could have jumped them is if we played and beat LSU in the SECCG. I don't necessarily think OSU is the better team...in fact there are at least 5 team that I think are better than OSU right now, but they are ranked where they are because they only lost once.... and nothing can change scenarios like this until we get a playoff.

If we can beat a good team in a BCS bowl we should be ranked pretty high preseason next year and hopefully we can take care of buisness and make a run at a title.




and for the guy who said we struggled against GT..... they have a #12 ranked defense and we put up 31 on them. That is not too bad.

[KillerNut]

We have 2 losses, they have 1. They should be ahead of us. The only way we could have jumped them is if we played and beat LSU in the SECCG. I don't necessarily think OSU is the better team...in fact there are at least 5 team that I think are better than OSU right now, but they are ranked where they are because they only lost once.... and nothing can change scenarios like this until we get a playoff.

If we can beat a good team in a BCS bowl we should be ranked pretty high preseason next year and hopefully we can take care of buisness and make a run at a title.

Very good post. Glad to see that there are finally some mature rational UGA fans on here. :thumpsup:


and for the guy who said we struggled against GT..... they have a #12 ranked defense and we put up 31 on them. That is not too bad.

Well according to other UGA fans on here, they would blow us out in a matchup. And just to let you know, tOSU defense is ranked #1 in the nation statistically.