View Full Version : Could 2 SEC teams play for the NC?
TigerEyes1914
10-25-2007, 06:08 PM
WE73's thread about our team predictions for next year got me thinking about this. There is a lot of young talent playing in the SEC now and many posters fell that their team will be great next year. So could two SEC teams every play for the NC?? If so who would be most likely to do it? I'm assuming they would (most likely) have to be from the same side of the conference right?
raptorcox
10-25-2007, 06:11 PM
If they finished 1 and 2 in the BCS, then they would have to play for the BCS Crown.
Having said that, I seriously doubt we ever see it happen because the human part of the BCS equation likely wouldn't allow it to happen.
(Especially when the two teams would have likely just played in the SECCG and one team would have obviously just lost and fallen in the polls.)
I would say no. The same arguement i had last year with Ohio St and Michigen. That would be if you can't win your conferance then you shouldn't be able to play for the NC
True Grit
10-25-2007, 06:16 PM
No because the human polls wouldnt allow it. And there is this thing called the SEC Championship.
Tennessee Ted
10-25-2007, 06:17 PM
I think it would be tough to happen because you will always have a Michigan, Ohio St., Oklahoma with an easy schedule. Plus with our depth is so tough it would be difficult for two teams to go through with only 1 loss. If there was a year to do it would be this year, assuming Ohio St. might lose a game, but Florida lost to Auburn.
GatorChomp
10-25-2007, 06:20 PM
I think it is "possible" but I doubt it wold happen. In my opinion the most likely way for it to happen would be for teams who play in the beginning of the year to win out except for the game against the other. Something like Tennessee losing only to Florida and both teams winning out after that.
True Grit
10-25-2007, 06:28 PM
The only way this would ever happen is if a team from the East and a team from the West went undefeated in the regular season. Then one of them would lose of course in the SEC championship. For both of them to make it it means that every team would have to have at least two losses and be a few points behind in the BCS. So the chances of it happening are pretty much zero.
GatorChomp
10-25-2007, 07:03 PM
The only way this would ever happen is if a team from the East and a team from the West went undefeated in the regular season. Then one of them would lose of course in the SEC championship. For both of them to make it it means that every team would have to have at least two losses and be a few points behind in the BCS. So the chances of it happening are pretty much zero.
I disagree with that. Firstly, I gave another scenario of where it could happen. Also, I don't think that all the other teams would have to have 2 losses. I think a 1 loss SEC team could make it over some 1 loss teams from other conferences. I doubt they would make it over an undefeated team though.
It is unlikely to happen, but it is possible and more than you think.
TigerEyes1914
10-25-2007, 07:08 PM
It seems that they would have to be in the same division and one lose to the other early in the season. Like AU/LSU or Fla/SC. It will be interesting to see the schedules for next year. Dont you think that a strong schedule for the one loss team could help facilitate this?
FanSmack
10-25-2007, 07:17 PM
The only way I could see this happening is with a team from the same side because of the SEC CG. For example...
UF plays TN really early in the season and both are ranked in the top 10. Let's say UF beats TN early in the season, this is the only game that TN loses all season. TN and UF wins out and they're probably going to be in the top 5. Team from the west is undefeated as well so they're going to be in the top 5 most likely as well. UF beats West team in SEC CG and moves TN above. Is it possible, yes. Probable? Not at all.
FanSmack
10-25-2007, 07:18 PM
It seems that they would have to be in the same division and one lose to the other early in the season. Like AU/LSU or Fla/SC. It will be interesting to see the schedules for next year. Dont you think that a strong schedule for the one loss team could help facilitate this?
LOL I had my reply window up for like 20 minutes and had to minimize the site while my boss came over. Good post :)
True Grit
10-25-2007, 07:41 PM
I disagree with that. Firstly, I gave another scenario of where it could happen. Also, I don't think that all the other teams would have to have 2 losses. I think a 1 loss SEC team could make it over some 1 loss teams from other conferences. I doubt they would make it over an undefeated team though.
It is unlikely to happen, but it is possible and more than you think.
I doubt a team that lost in the SECCG would make it in over another one loss team simply because the loss for the SEC team would be so late in the season.
Too many things would have to happen for two SEC teams to make it. It would be easier in the Pac 10, Big East, or Big Ten because they dont have a championship game.
Slick Rick
10-25-2007, 07:44 PM
Slick Rick says, yes this could happen, but not this season.
soupd
10-25-2007, 09:13 PM
Slick Rick says, yes this could happen, but not this season.
SoupD says, Slick Rick is a dumba#$
This couldn't happen due to the SEC championship game. I'm in agreement it would have to be teams from the same division who are both undefeated; which means they couldn't play each other in the reg season. Don't think that's possible though unless someone screwed up the schedule one year :-).
MBGamecock
10-25-2007, 09:22 PM
What if South Carolina beat Georgia at the beginning of the season. South Carolina goes undefeated and wins the SECC. Georgia wins out. Georgia's only loss would be against the #1 team in the country. I think it is possible for 2 SEC teams to meet in the NC.
This is just a scenario, everyone. We all know that Georgia would lose more than one game.
raptorcox
10-25-2007, 09:31 PM
I think it is "possible" but I doubt it wold happen. In my opinion the most likely way for it to happen would be for teams who play in the beginning of the year to win out except for the game against the other. Something like Tennessee losing only to Florida and both teams winning out after that.
Then only one of those 2 teams could win the East and that team would be at best the #3 team in the SEC.
I don't see any more teams that can't win their own conference or at least play for the SECCG going to the National Championship.
nellanaesp
10-25-2007, 09:45 PM
It's possible but improbable. Here's a scenario: Say 2 east teams such as South Carolina and Tennessee go undefeated most of the season and end up in the top 10, and South Carolina's only loss was to Tennessee. Assuming he SEC is as strong of a conference as it is this year, Tennessee would go to the Conference championship and South Carolina would not, but since they won out after Tennesse they could possibly be ranked number 2 (because Tennessee was undefeated, they're number 1). Then Tennessee goes to win the Conference championship, and So.Car and UT play for the national title. It's a really improbable scenario, but like I said, it's possible. It happened on my NCAA Football 07 game :ph34r:
vandyfan84
10-25-2007, 10:26 PM
If they finished 1 and 2 in the BCS, then they would have to play for the BCS Crown.
Having said that, I seriously doubt we ever see it happen because the human part of the BCS equation likely wouldn't allow it to happen.
(Especially when the two teams would have likely just played in the SECCG and one team would have obviously just lost and fallen in the polls.)
I think it is possible. Say this were to happen. LSU runs the table one year. In the same year, Auburn wins all it's game except for 1, the game against LSU. Well LSU goes on to the SECCG and wins it. While Auburn remains 11-1, or something of that sort. So you'd have LSU at 12-0 and Auburn at 11-1. So why couldn't these 2 teams play for the title? I think it is very possible, but will it ever happen, probably not.
Tennessee Ted
10-25-2007, 11:04 PM
I think we are learning this year that anything could happen. I mean what a crazy college football season so far. It all started with Appy St. beating Michigan. I don't think it will ever happen because the BCS is doomed. For some of the scenarios to occur that have been discussed here are a once in 10 or 20 year type thing and before it happens the BCS will I hope be dead.
UA0509
10-26-2007, 01:04 AM
it could happen, like many have said.
1. has to be 2 teams in same division
2. has to be a game played early in the year ( as in, alabama and auburn would have no shot at it EVER)
3. the loser of the early season game would need a very good non conference schedule, as in, they have to defeat highly ranked non conference teams, preferably the front-runners for the title in other conferences.
4. and whoever wins the early game between the two would probably have to run the table
TigerEyes1914
10-26-2007, 04:26 PM
I think it is possible. Say this were to happen. LSU runs the table one year. In the same year, Auburn wins all it's game except for 1, the game against LSU. Well LSU goes on to the SECCG and wins it. While Auburn remains 11-1, or something of that sort. So you'd have LSU at 12-0 and Auburn at 11-1. So why couldn't these 2 teams play for the title? I think it is very possible, but will it ever happen, probably not.
This is what I was thinking! Take this year for example. Had AU won the two early games we lost early, and maybe played LSU a bit earlier (say the time we played the UF game) and lost to them, we could be ranked in the top 5. It seems possible that we could meet for the NC provided LSU remained undefeated. Same possibility on the other side with say UF/UK. With the potential strength of the SEC next year, I could see this becoming a reality soon. Even moreso if we ever go to a 'plus 1' format.
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