View Full Version : Just in case anyone didn't know this already...Ainge>Stafford
Gator2753
10-06-2007, 03:44 PM
Stats ladies and gentlemen, stats. Ainge is on track to have a huge game today and Stafford's career woes vs SEC east opponents looks to continue.
Ainge is probably the most accurate QB in the SEC. No doubt.
UT's run game is having a field day as well.
Anyways agree or disagree?
gatorunvrsty
10-06-2007, 03:50 PM
Who's Stafford? Is he that guy that keeps getting planted in the turf?
Gator2753
10-06-2007, 03:53 PM
Who's Stafford? Is he that guy that keeps getting planted in the turf?
Yeah or the guy who has 20 passing yards so far to Ainge's 115:laugh:
WayzUp
10-06-2007, 04:01 PM
Why is this in Trash Talk? I haven't seen a ton of UGA games but the ones I have, Stafford has been incrediby inaccurate on a lot of throws that aren't screens or WR bubble screen types & even those tend to be high. Ainge was inconsistent when he was sharing the job with Clausen but since Cutcliffe got back, he's been extremely solid.
I don't think there's any question that Ainge is the better QB. Stafford may someday become as good but I haven't seen it yet.
Gator2753
10-06-2007, 04:04 PM
Why is this in Trash Talk? I haven't seen a ton of UGA games but the ones I have, Stafford has been incrediby inaccurate on a lot of throws that aren't screens or WR bubble screen types & even those tend to be high. Ainge was inconsistent when he was sharing the job with Clausen but since Cutcliffe got back, he's been extremely solid.
I don't think there's any question that Ainge is the better QB. Stafford may someday become as good but I haven't seen it yet.
Stafford's got to beat an SE east opponent before we can consider him "improved"
Its in the trash talk section b/c even though it is a fact, it's not exactly...nice. Esp given my hatred for the Dawgs.
If it isnt trash talk now it probably will evolve to it:thumpsup:
TigersFanTaylor
10-06-2007, 04:05 PM
I agree. I strongly consider Ainge one of the best quaterbacks in the SEC if not the best. He's very accurate, quick in the pocket, and makes great decisions. People can hate on him all they want, but he's the real deal.
DELTOR
10-06-2007, 04:12 PM
THANK YOU! This is something I've been saying to UGA fans and other people in general in public for a long time now. Stafford has done NOTHING to support his hype. Looks like that trend is going to continue unless he has a drastic turnaround this second half.
DanielW4444
10-06-2007, 05:34 PM
Stafford- sophomore
Ainge- senior
What?
Gator2753
10-06-2007, 05:41 PM
And Stafford ends the day with an INT to add to his stats. Should be his second int with 1 less TD pass had the refs made the right call. Oh well.
Thank you Tennessee. Good win!
TigersFanTaylor
10-06-2007, 05:42 PM
Stafford- sophomore
Ainge- senior
What?
Ainge put up better numbers as a Freshman than Matt Stafford did last year.
What?
Bulldog Bry
10-06-2007, 11:37 PM
Ainge put up better numbers as a Freshman than Matt Stafford did last year.
What?
Not only that, Ainge never lost to Georgia as a starter ('04, '06, '07)
I'm starting to wonder when Stafford is going to come around. Richt says that he will be great and I believe him. But at some point, he needs to re-think whatever it is he's teaching him.
lacene
10-07-2007, 12:02 AM
I also am not impressed with Stafford yet. I keep saying that before his career at UGA is over, he may be a top SEC QB, but I've not seen much evidence of it yet.
And I know he's only a sophomore, but geez - Chris Smelley is a freshman, and in his first true start at QB against MSU (UL-L is not a true start because even it was understood going into the game that he and Beecher would platoon), Smelley threw for more yards (279) and had a better QB efficiency rating (127.13) than Stafford had for the entire '06 season. Hell, Stafford still has yet to throw for at least 279 yards, and he's halfway through his sophomore season......
cocky4ever
10-07-2007, 05:57 AM
Not only that, Ainge never lost to Georgia as a starter ('04, '06, '07)
I'm starting to wonder when Stafford is going to come around. Richt says that he will be great and I believe him. But at some point, he needs to re-think whatever it is he's teaching him.
I think he should take it a step further and give someone else a shot. UGA's bench is very well stocked with great QB's. Its unfair for them to not even get a shot while Stafford continues to struggle like he has.
KRIEGER
10-07-2007, 06:41 AM
Ainge put up better numbers as a Freshman than Matt Stafford did last year.
What?
Why did Ainge take the year off in '05? Or was it '06? Or both...? :laugh:
um, what?
WayzUp
10-07-2007, 07:51 AM
Why did Ainge take the year off in '05? Or was it '06? Or both...? :laugh:
um, what?
You're um...a little off.
2004: Ainge played in every game but the last 4 in 2004 when he was a frosh and had double the TD passes to INTs. Pulled in favor of future QB-carousel mate Clausen...see: 2005.
2005: Fulmer was playing QB-carousel, he played in all but three games & still had just 2 fewer TD's than Stafford despite having almost half the attepts.
2006: Cutcliffe returned and he played in every game but one & threw more than twice as many TD's as INT's including two 4-TD games.
We all know how Ainge is doing this year...he only has 5 times the TDs to INT's. At this point in time, Stafford isn't even close to the same league as Ainge. I don't think there's any chance of Stafford going pro early so he has two years to make his case for having the better college career but he's got a ton of catching up to do.
Just look at their stats & game logs...they speak for themselves:
Matthew Stafford career stats & game logs (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=257&player=7)
Erik Ainge career stats & game logs (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=694&player=10)
KRIEGER
10-07-2007, 08:26 AM
You're um...a little off.
2004: Ainge played in every game but the last 4 in 2004 when he was a frosh and had double the TD passes to INTs. Pulled in favor of future QB-carousel mate Clausen...see: 2005.
2005: Fulmer was playing QB-carousel, he played in all but three games & still had just 2 fewer TD's than Stafford despite having almost half the attepts.
2006: Cutcliffe returned and he played in every game but one & threw more than twice as many TD's as INT's including two 4-TD games.
We all know how Ainge is doing this year...he only has 5 times the TDs to INT's. At this point in time, Stafford isn't even close to the same league as Ainge. I don't think there's any chance of Stafford going pro early so he has two years to make his case for having the better college career but he's got a ton of catching up to do.
Just look at their stats & game logs...they speak for themselves:
Matthew Stafford career stats & game logs (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=257&player=7)
Erik Ainge career stats & game logs (http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDetail.jsp?yr=2007&org=694&player=10)
Oh, thanks for clearing it up. So I was correct the first time. He took '05 off.
WayzUp
10-07-2007, 08:49 AM
Oh, thanks for clearing it up. So I was correct the first time. He took '05 off.
:unsure: So........playing in every game but three is taking the season off?
cocky4ever
10-07-2007, 08:50 AM
Oh, thanks for clearing it up. So I was correct the first time. He took '05 off.
If by "took the year off" you meant "played in all but 3 games" then yeah, you were right the first time:closedeye
KRIEGER
10-07-2007, 08:52 AM
Nice timing Cockboys. Two birds with one stone. And yeah, I suppose that is what I meant!
He was good his fresh year, why did he get worse? Totally unnacceptable after being a proven winner IMO.
TigersFanTaylor
10-07-2007, 09:01 AM
Nice timing Cockboys. Two birds with one stone. And yeah, I suppose that is what I meant!
He was good his fresh year, why did he get worse? Totally unnacceptable after being a proven winner IMO.
The whole Vols team was bad in '05. Recievers dropped too many passes, the running game wasn't there, and there were many coaching mistakes. He still managed to throw just as many toucdown passes as Stafford did his sophmore year, with 5 less picks. Face it, Ainge has been, and is, better than Stafford.
WayzUp
10-07-2007, 11:31 AM
Nice timing Cockboys. Two birds with one stone. And yeah, I suppose that is what I meant!
He was good his fresh year, why did he get worse? Totally unnacceptable after being a proven winner IMO.
The rehire of Cutcliffe cannot be overstated when it comes to Ainge and the entire Vols offense's turnaround these past couple years. Under his tutelege, Ainge has flourished, the receivers have improved overnight and as a result, the Vols are scoring more points.
Perhaps Richt should find a good QB coach to tutor young Stafford. The magic he worked on Quincy Carter, David Greene, DJ Shockley and others obviously hasn't manifested itself in Stafford. The WR's haven't exactly helped but they can't be expected to make miraculous catches week in and week out either. Ainge puts the ball right on the guy most of the time so the drops aren't there like they have been with UGA's guys. Not flaming but I think the UGA fanbase in general has vilified the receiving corp for drops when a lot of those non-catches are really hard catches to make just because of where they have to go to get 'em.
gatorunvrsty
10-07-2007, 11:38 AM
Give Krieger a break... if Cox was my team's QB, I'd be trying shift focus to the QB's of other teams, too. 1 or 2 good games a year isn't much to crow about... and that's about what Cox is good for.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 12:12 PM
I don't even thinks it's fair to compare Ainge to Stafford. He's WAY better than him. Ainge is in the catogory with Tebow, and Woodson.
This thread can be settled by the following statement:
Stafford = More talent than Ainge
Ainge = Plays better than Stafford.
Gator2753
10-08-2007, 12:16 PM
I do agree that Stafford is underachieving. That would drive me crazy
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 12:18 PM
This thread can be settled by the following statement:
Stafford = More talent than Ainge
Ainge = Plays better than Stafford.
Stafford more talent than Ainge????? He may be able to run better than Ainge but c'mon. Ainge hits the open man makes GREAT descisions and can read defenses better than anyone in the SEC and probally the country. Being able to read defenses 8 outta 10 time from the line of scrimmage is probally the best talent that a QB can have.
Stafford more talent than Ainge????? He may be able to run better than Ainge but c'mon. Ainge hits the open man makes GREAT descisions and can read defenses better than anyone in the SEC and probally the country. Being able to read defenses 8 outta 10 time from the line of scrimmage is probally the best talent that a QB can have.
Stafford has a better arm than Ainge and can run better too. He's also bigger and harder to tackle. He possesses more talent but has yet to show it on the field. Thus why I said Ainge plays better than Stafford.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 12:33 PM
Stafford has a better arm than Ainge and can run better too. He's also bigger and harder to tackle. He possesses more talent but has yet to show it on the field. Thus why I said Ainge plays better than Stafford.
Fair Enough.
DanielW4444
10-08-2007, 12:34 PM
Stafford more talent than Ainge????? He may be able to run better than Ainge but c'mon. Ainge hits the open man makes GREAT descisions and can read defenses better than anyone in the SEC and probally the country. Being able to read defenses 8 outta 10 time from the line of scrimmage is probally the best talent that a QB can have.
Stafford HAS more talent than Ainge.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 12:36 PM
Stafford HAS more talent than Ainge.
Ok explain to me why.
cocky4ever
10-08-2007, 12:37 PM
More talent or not Ainge is still the better QB. The only person who could bring up an argument about Stafford being better would be Grady...and we all know his arguments are the most illogical things you can read on this board.
More talent or not Ainge is still the better QB. The only person who could bring up an argument about Stafford being better would be Grady...and we all know his arguments are the most illogical things you can read on this board.
Did anyone say Stafford was better than Ainge?
I think that before his career is over though, he will be.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 12:41 PM
The only thing Stafford has on Ainge is ok runnig ability. I mean Stafford is not exactly gonna burn anyone. Ainge is better because he has more talent.
The only thing Stafford has on Ainge is ok runnig ability. I mean Stafford is not exactly gonna burn anyone. Ainge is better because he has more talent.
Whatever. :wacko: :brick:
cocky4ever
10-08-2007, 12:45 PM
Did anyone say Stafford was better than Ainge?
I think that before his career is over though, he will be.
Ummm...isnt this thread about who the better QB is?
And Stafford will be halfway finished with his college career after this year and will have a lot of catching up to do to finish with a better career than Ainge will have. He has talent at all positions around him just like Ainge does. Hell, Ainge even lost basically all of the WR's he went to a lot last year and is still having a better year than Stafford. I guess we'll just have to wait and see though.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 12:50 PM
Ummm...isnt this thread about who the better QB is?
And Stafford will be halfway finished with his college career after this year and will have a lot of catching up to do to finish with a better career than Ainge will have. He has talent at all positions around him just like Ainge does. Hell, Ainge even lost basically all of the WR's he went to a lot last year and is still having a better year than Stafford. I guess we'll just have to wait and see though.
Agreed. Imagine what Ainges numbers would have looked like this year with Meachem if he would have stayed.
Ummm...isnt this thread about who the better QB is?
And Stafford will be halfway finished with his college career after this year and will have a lot of catching up to do to finish with a better career than Ainge will have. He has talent at all positions around him just like Ainge does. Hell, Ainge even lost basically all of the WR's he went to a lot last year and is still having a better year than Stafford. I guess we'll just have to wait and see though.
How many SEC championships has Ainge won??? Hmmm....
I might add that he's only 17-5 as a starter, he's been plagued by injury, and his only bowl appearance ended in a loss.
Stafford doesn't have that much catching up to do.
cocky4ever
10-08-2007, 12:58 PM
How many SEC championships has Ainge won??? Hmmm....
If thats not a Grady argument I dont know what is. You go and find the one possible thing that could even slightly favor Stafford and bring it up like it somehow outweighs everything else. Plus Stafford isnt gonna win a title this year so he only he two more tries after this...and those two tries will only come if Richt doesnt come to his senses and realize he has two other great QB's on the bench who deserve a shot.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 01:00 PM
How many SEC championships has Ainge won??? Hmmm....
I might add that he's only 17-5 as a starter, he's been plagued by injury, and his only bowl appearance ended in a loss.
Stafford doesn't have that much catching up to do.
Im pretty sure in 04 he atleast got us there. Stafford still has to atlest get there.
If thats not a Grady argument I dont know what is. You go and find the one possible thing that could even slightly favor Stafford and bring it up like it somehow outweighs everything else. Plus Stafford isnt gonna win a title this year so he only he two more tries after this...and those two tries will only come if Richt doesnt come to his senses and realize he has two other great QB's on the bench who deserve a shot.
Ainge threw 5 TD's and 7 INT's in his sophomore year (what he played of it) and had a rating of 89.9, completing just 45.5% of his passes.
Stafford has already thrown for 9 TD's and 4 INT's in his sophomore year and has a rating of 123.4, completing over 55%.
So Stafford is having a better sophomore year than Ainge did. Give him time.
DanielW4444
10-08-2007, 01:00 PM
Tennessee fans and South Carolina fans....working together.
This must be what hell is like
Im pretty sure in 04 he atleast got us there. Stafford still has to atlest get there.
He has 2 years and a young team. Most everyone realizes that this team is young and will be very good.
Tennessee fans and South Carolina fans....working together.
This must be what hell is like
No joke... throw in a Florida fan and you've got something Dante could never have imagined.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 01:06 PM
Ainge threw 5 TD's and 7 INT's in his sophomore year (what he played of it)
Stafford has already thrown for 7 TD's and 3 INT's in his sophomore year.
Ainge also thew 17 TD's and 9 INTs his freshmen year. Beat FL and a #3 UGA team at home and took us to the SECCG compared to Staffords 7 TD's and 13 INT's his freshmen year with a chick fil a bowl win.
DanielW4444
10-08-2007, 01:08 PM
Ok explain to me why.
People that make a living evaluating football recruits ranked Matthew Stafford #2 QB in the nation(behind Mustain)
Those same people at Scout ranked Erik Ainge #26
Rivals Ranked Ainge the #11 Pro Style QB. Rivals ranked Stafford the #1 Pro style QB.
Again, these are people that make a living doing this, so dont respond to me with "that doesnt matter"
Because obviously talent wise, they saw something in Stafford that they didn't in Ainge
Bburton86
10-08-2007, 01:09 PM
Stafford is a Sophomore, Ainge is a senior. Of course Ainge is better. The only thing that this thread does is stroke a couple of egos. Hopefully Stafford doesn't have as bad of a year this year as Ainge did his Soph year. As some people have pointed out, Ainge had a better Frosh year than Stafford but then they use the argument that UT played a QB carousel in '05. Well, isn't that exactly what UGA did in '06? What if Stafford salvages this season and has a decent year? Will that even out the "Ainge was really good in '04 but really bad in '05" argument, if Stafford has a decent '07 campaign? Only time will tell. It is only halfway through this season by the way.
Ainge also thew 17 TD's and 9 INTs his freshmen year. Beat FL and a #3 UGA team at home and took us to the SECCG compared to Staffords 7 TD's and 13 INT's his freshmen year with a chick fil a bowl win.
Stafford also didn't start his freshman season, he came in after the starter Terashinski got injured against South Carolina and had to split playing time with Joe Cox and Blake Barnes. Apples and oranges.
By the way, Stafford led the team back to an amazing win over VA Tech in the Chick-fil-A bowl, scoring 28 unanswered points in the 2nd half to win 31-24, Erik Ainge lost his first bowl 20-10.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 01:13 PM
People that make a living evaluating football recruits ranked Matthew Stafford #2 QB in the nation(behind Mustain)
Those same people at Scout ranked Erik Ainge #26
Rivals Ranked Ainge the #11 Pro Style QB. Rivals ranked Stafford the #1 Pro style QB.
Again, these are people that make a living doing this, so dont respond to me with "that doesnt matter"
Because obviously talent wise, they saw something in Stafford that they didn't in Ainge
Ok im sorry but it doesn't matter. Ainge has showed it on the field Stafford hasn't. I'm not even going to insult Ainge by comparing him to Stafford. Ainge has put up the numbers to prove whos better and more talented. He lost all his WR core and hasn't missed a beat.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 01:15 PM
Stafford also didn't start his freshman season, he came in after the starter Terashinski got injured against South Carolina and had to split playing time with Joe Cox and Blake Barnes. Apples and oranges.
By the way, Stafford led the team back to an amazing win over VA Tech in the Chick-fil-A bowl, scoring 28 unanswered points in the 2nd half to win 31-24, Erik Ainge lost his first bowl 20-10.
Thats great:thumpsup: ainge lead he Freshmen comeback Against FL with 90 seconds to go. Big differrence between FL and VT
DanielW4444
10-08-2007, 01:15 PM
Ok im sorry but it doesn't matter. Ainge has showed it on the field Stafford hasn't. I'm not even going to insult Ainge by comparing him to Stafford. Ainge has put up the numbers to prove whos better and more talented. He lost all his WR core and hasn't missed a beat.
See thats your problem, you are confusing who is playing better and who is more talented. They arent the same thing
Thats great:thumpsup: ainge lead he Freshmen comeback Against FL with 90 seconds to go. Big differrence between FL and VT
Oh wow, Ainge successfully executed a 2 minute drill???? I don't know of any other QB's in the nation who can do that! Ainge for heisman! :brick:
You have no clue what you're talking about. Next I suppose you'll tell me Ainge is hung better. I'm sure you'd know.
GoVols1998
10-08-2007, 01:21 PM
Oh wow, Ainge successfully executed a 2 minute drill???? I don't know of any other QB's in the nation who can do that! Ainge for heisman! :brick:
You have no clue what you're talking about. Next I suppose you'll tell me Ainge is hung better. I'm sure you'd know.
Wow really mature. You put up no arguement all you can say is "Stafford has more talent" Ok???? What makes him have more talent? Not his stats, not his arm, not his ability to read defenses. The only thing you can say is Stafford can run better thats it. I mean you haven't put up any good arguement. The whole thread is about who is better not who has more talent. Bottom line Ainge is better period.
DanielW4444
10-08-2007, 01:22 PM
Thats great:thumpsup: ainge lead he Freshmen comeback Against FL with 90 seconds to go. Big differrence between FL and VT
Big difference between FL now and FL when Ainge was a freshman
Wow really mature. You put up no arguement all you can say is "Stafford has more talent" Ok???? What makes him have more talent? Not his stats, not his arm, not his ability to read defenses. The only thing you can say is Stafford can run better thats it. I mean you haven't put up any good arguement. The whole thread is about who is better not who has more talent. Bottom line Ainge is better period.
I HAVE NO ARGUMENT??!! I'm the only one putting up actual NUMBERS here, the only thing you've said is "Ainge is better because he reads defenses better." <--- undefined.
I never said Stafford is better. Ainge is an experienced senior and he is clearly a better quarterback right now. But Stafford is a sophomore with a lot of promise, and a lot of talent, more talent than Ainge had as a freshman, as indicated by their respective rankings coming out of high school. Every argument I've made is legit. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Know i'm not screaming one way or another but here are their stats
comp attemps yds comp% yds/attp td inter rat
Stafford- 99 177 1163 55.9 6.6 9 4 123.4
Ainge 125 185 1295 67.6 7 10 2 142.0
numbers from foxsports.com
Im no expert but ainge is a senoir stafford is a sophmore. numbers ain't to far from each other with ainge haveing 2 more yrs on him. im not saying stafford is god but there are the numbers
ido relize that tenn has played one less game.
gatorhater
10-08-2007, 05:22 PM
Stafford relies too much on his talent. Talent does not necessarily a great QB make.
lacene
10-08-2007, 05:23 PM
People that make a living evaluating football recruits ranked Matthew Stafford #2 QB in the nation(behind Mustain)
Those same people at Scout ranked Erik Ainge #26
Rivals Ranked Ainge the #11 Pro Style QB. Rivals ranked Stafford the #1 Pro style QB.
Again, these are people that make a living doing this, so dont respond to me with "that doesnt matter"
Because obviously talent wise, they saw something in Stafford that they didn't in Ainge
Yeah, but I bet if you go find those people and knock on their doors today, they won't open up.....
:ph34r:
TigersFanTaylor
10-08-2007, 05:27 PM
People that make a living evaluating football recruits ranked Matthew Stafford #2 QB in the nation(behind Mustain)
Those same people at Scout ranked Erik Ainge #26
Rivals Ranked Ainge the #11 Pro Style QB. Rivals ranked Stafford the #1 Pro style QB.
Again, these are people that make a living doing this, so dont respond to me with "that doesnt matter"
Because obviously talent wise, they saw something in Stafford that they didn't in Ainge
It really doesn't matter once they start playing. Have you ever heard of the term busts? I'm not saying Stafford is a bust though, but it's out there. If we went only by those people's rankings, why even play? There is a reason these players play the game, and so far, throughout their respective careers, Ainge has proven to be a better quarterback.
lacene
10-08-2007, 05:57 PM
Know i'm not screaming one way or another but here are their stats
comp attemps yds comp% yds/attp td inter rat
Stafford- (6 gms) 99 177 1163 55.9 6.6 9 4 123.4
Ainge (5 gms) 125 185 1295 67.6 7 10 2 142.0
numbers from foxsports.com
Im no expert but ainge is a senoir stafford is a sophmore. numbers ain't to far from each other with ainge haveing 2 more yrs on him. im not saying stafford is god but there are the numbers
I'm sorry, smfr, but Ainge's numbers there are significantly better than Stafford's.....
And UGA did win their last 3 games with Stafford at QB in '06, but Stafford did not win those games for UGA, despite that 83 yard TD run against Auburn. UGA's defense won those games:
Auburn - 20 passes, 46 rushes, UGA defense - 4 TOs, 1 INT for TD, 17 points off TOs
GT - 29 passes, 37 rushes, UGA defense - 3 TOs, 1 fumble return for TD, 7 points off TOs (missed FG on another TO)
VT - 21 passes, 31 rushes, UGA defense - 4 TOs, 17 points off TOs
I'm sorry, smfr, but Ainge's numbers there are significantly better than Stafford's.....
And UGA did win their last 3 games with Stafford at QB in '06, but Stafford did not win those games for UGA, despite that 83 yard TD run against Auburn. UGA's defense won those games:
Auburn - 20 passes, 46 rushes, UGA defense - 4 TOs, 1 INT for TD, 17 points off TOs
GT - 29 passes, 37 rushes, UGA defense - 3 TOs, 1 fumble return for TD, 7 points off TOs (missed FG on another TO)
VT - 21 passes, 31 rushes, UGA defense - 4 TOs, 17 points off TOs
And i said he wasn't god and niether is Ainge. i presented numbers. from my view they don't look to far off. Sorry that's my opinion. To me one is just as good as the other. Ainge has more pretection and his recievers catch the ball more. this is my opinion you interperate the numbers the way you see it. and i will the way i see.
I'm sorry, smfr, but Ainge's numbers there are significantly better than Stafford's.....
And UGA did win their last 3 games with Stafford at QB in '06, but Stafford did not win those games for UGA, despite that 83 yard TD run against Auburn. UGA's defense won those games:
Auburn - 20 passes, 46 rushes, UGA defense - 4 TOs, 1 INT for TD, 17 points off TOs
GT - 29 passes, 37 rushes, UGA defense - 3 TOs, 1 fumble return for TD, 7 points off TOs (missed FG on another TO)
VT - 21 passes, 31 rushes, UGA defense - 4 TOs, 17 points off TOs
I would say that's a stretch.
TigersFanTaylor
10-08-2007, 06:16 PM
And i said he wasn't god and niether is Ainge. i presented numbers. from my view they don't look to far off. Sorry that's my opinion. To me one is just as good as the other. Ainge has more pretection and his recievers catch the ball more. this is my opinion you interperate the numbers the way you see it. and i will the way i see.
Ainge has more yards, more touchdowns, less picks, and much more completions, and he's played less games than Stafford has. Ainge also has a much higher completion percentage, and better rating, and has been sacked 8 less times than Stafford. You can say that's due to the offensive line, but Ainge helps himself out a lot with good audibles, and getting rid of the ball quickly.
I don't think their numbers are that close at all.
Im not taking anything away from Ainge. but we have 2 freshman on staffords blind side. so why wouldn't he be sacked more. so i can say that's due to the o-line.
fernandomike
10-08-2007, 06:31 PM
I think that Ainge is pretty comfortably ahead of Stafford right now. I do love Stafford's upside and think that he has a higher ceiling than Ainge, but Ainge is a smart, seasoned quarterback. He appeared much more accurate than Stafford did Saturday and took what UGA was giving.
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