Lsu & Dirty Boxing

[coolchicken]

LSU LEADS THE CLASS IN A LESSON ON DIRTY BOXING

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[cocky4ever]

The ones that pissed me off the most were the assault on Munnerlyn and the two plays where Favorite acted like he was trying to break our players necks...and then had the nerve to celebrate the plays. He basically threw Smelley by his facemask so hard that his helmet flew about 15-20 yards. Complete BS:mad:

[GamecockDieHard]

Yeah, that's pretty much the one's that got me upset. I'm glad someone took the time to chronicle it. At least our SEC brethren yet to play them will get an idea how they operate.

I'd gladly watch an LSU video with all we did wrong, hopefully someone will do it so I won't feel so bad about LSU. I know it can cut both ways. I guess that's why they win so much. "Don't get beat on your assignment, but if you do, make them pay for it, no matter if you do or (in a couple of cases) don't get flagged for it." I wonder if that's posted above their tunnel?

I know I sound like sour grapes. I'm sure it is to a point. But I'd gladly lose a game before I tried to break a guy's neck or inflict a spinal injury on someone after they're already down. The spear on Munnerlyn was nothing but premeditated. The offender stopped, saw Munnerlyn go down, re-set his feet, and speared him in the neck. The ref was standing right there, and did nothing. Amazing. And as the video shows, that wasn't the half of it.

[GatorChomp]

Wow. You guys do know that the same thing could be shown for just about every team in most games. Players make stupid fouls and penalties and refs make mistakes. It does not mean there is a conspiracy. (More aimed for the thread creator and the maker of the video than the other people who replied).

[Ellesshoo]

ref spotting the ball: I have the game on my DVR in HD and you can see that it wasn't a 1st down even before the refs "moved" the ball.

block in back: ummm, we were flagged for it.

fumble: I guess the editor of that video didn't feel it was necessary to show one of the replay angles b/c while I couldn't believe we recovered there was an angle where the guy that fumbled it did indeed reach his arm out and grab it back under him.. How else do you think he ended up with the ball.

Murphy's late hit: should have been called.

Facemask 1: it was flagged for 15 yards. WTF do you want? No players is trying to get a 15 yard penalty, stop acting like he meant it.

facemask 2: your qb ducked right before the tackle and Favorite got the face mask. It looks bad b/c the helmet came off but helmets come off easier than you'd think (ever play football?). Also, it was flagged and you're lucky he got the face mask b/c you wouldn't have scored without the new set of downs.


This is sour grapes, don't even try and say it isn't. We beat you with relative ease and shut it down in the 4th quarter. You don't want any part of us again in Atlanta. We will roll you worse than last Saturday. You cock fans have really been insane with the excuses. Do you really think you were cheated out of a win?! If so, you're blind homerism is off the charts. :brick:

[coolchicken]

Well, I also have the game on DVR in HD. Where do you think I got the video from? So let's address your issues:

ref spotting the ball: I have the game on my DVR in HD and you can see that it wasn't a 1st down even before the refs "moved" the ball.

From my angle which is on a 60 LCD HDTV, it looked like a first down. Then the ref 1.) made the other ref move his hand off the ball. 2.) The ref patted the ball 3.) Then he raised the front off the ball of the ground (clear as day) moving the edge of back. Even the commentators said it was a first down. As a side note: if was 3 yards short... there is no excuse for a ref moving the football when it is being measured.

block in back: ummm, we were flagged for it.

You were flagged for ONE of them. On that run there were THREE if not FOUR. There is a quite a difference between a 15 yard penalty and a 45 to 60 yard penalty.

fumble: I guess the editor of that video didn't feel it was necessary to show one of the replay angles b/c while I couldn't believe we recovered there was an angle where the guy that fumbled it did indeed reach his arm out and grab it back under him.. How else do you think he ended up with the ball.

If you would like to show me that angle, I would greatly appreciate it. As I mentioned, I am watching in very high quality as well. There is no angle showing that.

Murphy's late hit: should have been called.

Called? He should have been ejected and suspended.

Facemask 1: it was flagged for 15 yards. WTF do you want? No players is trying to get a 15 yard penalty, stop acting like he meant it.

Oh? He didn't celebrate after doing it? He hung on and dragged him to the ground.

facemask 2: your qb ducked right before the tackle and Favorite got the face mask. It looks bad b/c the helmet came off but helmets come off easier than you'd think (ever play football?). Also, it was flagged and you're lucky he got the face mask b/c you wouldn't have scored without the new set of downs.

He reached for it, ripped his helmet off and three LSU players celebrated. LUCKY HE GOT FLAGGED? He shouldn't have been flagged? It was LUCK? Wow. I guess it does include the fans after all.


This is sour grapes, don't even try and say it isn't. We beat you with relative ease and shut it down in the 4th quarter. You don't want any part of us again in Atlanta. We will roll you worse than last Saturday. You cock fans have really been insane with the excuses. Do you really think you were cheated out of a win?! If so, you're blind homerism is off the charts.

Not sour grapes. If you take the time to read the blog, I was one of the first ones to say that LSU was the better FOOTBALL team on SATURDAY. However, that doesn't mean your team should be allowed to do the things they did.

Bottom line. Suck it up. If it was the other way around, I would be doing the same thing to my own team. I have done it in the past.

As far as LSU in Atlanta, you can say whatever you want, but LSU benefited from our youth. The fumble that wasn't, can change a game. A pick 6 dropped can change a game. Def Int in the end zone can change a game. If you ask me, if all of that stuff would have went out way, you still might have beaten us... no doubt... but LSU is the team that was lucky on Saturday, not SC.

Also, I think it would be very hard for any team to beat Steve Spurrier twice in a season. You let our boys mature a little bit and see what happens.

[cocky4ever]

I dont think you can find a single post on here that blamed the loss on the officials. What Im pissed about is the total disregard for our players safety some of the LSU players showed. And dont make exucses for the facemask against Smelley...when a QB(any player for that matter) ducks you dont go flying over them, grab their facemask, and then yank it back as hard as you can almost making them cut a back flip in the process. There is no excuse for any of those personal fouls....whether they were called or not.

[blockallhaters]

Wow. You guys do know that the same thing could be shown for just about every team in most games. Players make stupid fouls and penalties and refs make mistakes. It does not mean there is a conspiracy. (More aimed for the thread creator and the maker of the video than the other people who replied).

Yeah I have too agree with the cocks on this one there is too may mistakes.If I made these same mistakes at my work I would be fired. I love our conference too much to have it look like the Acc.I think these refs not all of them but some need to be retired. I don't blame it on the teams like Lsu in this case but the Sec conference for their stand on this . I will tell you one that even helped my Gators the call against Vandy that he was celebrating. What bull take that call away or change how they can call it.:brick:

[Tator]

I was in the locker room before the game and I heard Miles say that he "hated Spurrier becuase of his holier than thou attitude and hated anyone who was stupid enough to play for him". He went on and on about how "Spurrier and Cocks go hand in hand" and finished up by telling the defense "to do whatever you can to rip their heads off and put all of them idiots out of the game". I was stunned to say the least. If it weren't for the fact that I fear for my job, I would report him.


AND in the real world......



Guys get pumped, they play rough. There are penalties for those who go too far and rightly so. I don't condone late hits, spearing, facemasks or any other action that could lead to severe injury or even death. But COME ON, to take the time out of your busy day to cut a video that basically amounts to whinning and post it on a message board?

Why post it here? File a complaint with the SEC and the NCAA, posting it here does no good. If you want help filing a complaint, I can contact the previously mentioned organizations and the University of South Carolina Athletic Department to get the ball rolling.

[Yazzer]

I posted on other sites--I am not going to complain about the late and cheap shots--I'm not going to complain about the officiating, I'm not going to offer any excuses about how we were out played by a superior team( in every aspect of the game)
WE FLAT GOT BEAT BY A BETTER TEAM!!!!!----I will however complain about the thugish (is that a word???) head bobbing, trash talking, chest pounding actions by LSU players after making the most routine play.
In an earlier post, a LSU supporter stated that I had obviously never seen a football game because this exists at every level including high school and every college game--I beg to differ--in 12 years as a successful high school football coach ( 2 state championships and a high school baseball coach ---top 10 in victories--I never allowed my players to exhibit this type of behavior--I always preached the philosophy of acting as though you have done this before---More coaches need to adopt this ---we are sick of this street thug behavior!!!!!
LSU plays a beautiful and dominating brand of football and I fully commend them--why cheapen this with punk behavior---coaches, take control!!!!!!!

[Tator]

I personally can't stand the thug theatrics and I agree with you that all coaching staffs should reign it in. I'm ok with someone, who after sacking the QB, jumps up and pumps his fist, or even an "oh yeah!" reaction after a TD, but most of this celebratory crap is just that, crap and it's not needed.

[gatorunvrsty]

Yeah I have too agree with the cocks on this one there is too may mistakes.If I made these same mistakes at my work I would be fired. I love our conference too much to have it look like the Acc.I think these refs not all of them but some need to be retired. I don't blame it on the teams like Lsu in this case but the Sec conference for their stand on this . I will tell you one that even helped my Gators the call against Vandy that he was celebrating. What bull take that call away or change how they can call it.:brick:

Yeah, I have to agree with the Cock fans on this one, too. Some of those were absolutely awful; and in the personal foul calls where the guy got speared, and the guy ripped the QB's helmet off, those two LSU players should have been ejected. I'd think after all the BS LSU and Gator teams got last year at AU, they'd be a little more objective about the obvious home-cookin'. The worst one was the clear first down that the official rocked the ball back so it didn't stick out as far to the stick, so the other official could get his fingers between it and the ball. That's inexcusable; and the guy should be investigated and fired. As far as the outcome of the game, it probably would have still gone LSU's way, but it was one dirty game, for sure. I said that to myself long before somebody made a video about it. And, it wasn't like LSU was blowing USC away, either... you never know what kind of momentum swing a team will get from something as small as a first down. And, they only won by 12, so it's not unreasonable to think the officials helped out a great deal.

[crimsonnation713]

I personally can't stand the thug theatrics and I agree with you that all coaching staffs should reign it in. I'm ok with someone, who after sacking the QB, jumps up and pumps his fist, or even an "oh yeah!" reaction after a TD, but most of this celebratory crap is just that, crap and it's not needed.

Totally hit it on the head. :thumpsup:

[GTTiger]

1) They actually did call a few of the block in the backs, but a team can only accept one. The refs don't give you 60 yards in one play for penalties unless they are all dead ball.

2) The face masks were unintentional and LSU was called for both.

3) I didn't see who recovered the fumble because CBS is retarded and never showed a angle that indicates which team had it, but the refs said LSU recovered it, so that is how it is.

4) The late hit should have been called and a 15 yard penalty should have been applied. The poster that suggested ejection is an absurd notion. The player wasn't trying to head but the back of his helmet, he was just trying to make a tackle and came in late.

LSU dominated the game in every facet, and they are a very physical defense. Sometimes things happen when physical defenses play, but there wasn't anything outrageous here.

[gatorunvrsty]

I was in the locker room before the game and I heard Miles say that he "hated Spurrier becuase of his holier than thou attitude and hated anyone who was stupid enough to play for him". He went on and on about how "Spurrier and Cocks go hand in hand" and finished up by telling the defense "to do whatever you can to rip their heads off and put all of them idiots out of the game". I was stunned to say the least. If it weren't for the fact that I fear for my job, I would report him.


AND in the real world......



Guys get pumped, they play rough. There are penalties for those who go too far and rightly so. I don't condone late hits, spearing, facemasks or any other action that could lead to severe injury or even death. But COME ON, to take the time out of your busy day to cut a video that basically amounts to whinning and post it on a message board?

Why post it here? File a complaint with the SEC and the NCAA, posting it here does no good. If you want help filing a complaint, I can contact the previously mentioned organizations and the University of South Carolina Athletic Department to get the ball rolling.

:laugh: I hate to admit being so gullible, but as I was reading the first part of this post, I actually believed what you were writing. That's how dirty the game was on LSU's part... I thought that really was what was said. Watching the game, it would not have surprised me in the least if someone told me that Miles had told his players to take opposing players out if they thought they could get away with it.

[GTTiger]

Yeah, I have to agree with the Cock fans on this one, too. Some of those were absolutely awful; and in the personal foul calls where the guy got speared, and the guy ripped the QB's helmet off, those two LSU players should have been ejected. I'd think after all the BS LSU and Gator teams got last year at AU, they'd be a little more objective about the obvious home-cookin'. The worst one was the clear first down that the official rocked the ball back so it didn't stick out as far to the stick, so the other official could get his fingers between it and the ball. That's inexcusable; and the guy should be investigated and fired. As far as the outcome of the game, it probably would have still gone LSU's way, but it was one dirty game, for sure. I said that to myself long before somebody made a video about it. And, it wasn't like LSU was blowing USC away, either... you never know what kind of momentum swing a team will get from something as small as a first down. And, they only won by 12, so it's not unreasonable to think the officials helped out a great deal.


The 12 pts that LSU won by is misleading. LSU was playing to kill the clock for the 4th quarter because we had a 21 pt lead. The lead wasn't cut to 12 until 1:30 in the game.

Also, Peyton manning's helmet got pulled off ona much worse facemask this weekend and it was only a 15 yard penalty then also. The LSU player wasn't going for the facemask, the QB ducked into his hand. It's pretty hard to stop your momentum goin in on a QB in the rain.

[gatorunvrsty]

The 12 pts that LSU won by is misleading. LSU was playing to kill the clock for the 4th quarter because we had a 21 pt lead. The lead wasn't cut to 12 until 1:30 in the game.

Also, Peyton manning's helmet got pulled off ona much worse facemask this weekend and it was only a 15 yard penalty then also. The LSU player wasn't going for the facemask, the QB ducked into his hand. It's pretty hard to stop your momentum goin in on a QB in the rain.

I'll give you that about the misleading final score; but I still have to wonder what would've happened with a little more honest or equal officiating. Like I said, it likely wouldn't have made a difference in the long run. As for both facemasks, neither guy ever let go. They snatched the guys down by the facemask. I was amazed neither one ended up paralyzed or decapitated... those were two of the worst facemask offenses I've ever seen, and it looked to me like they had no intention of letting up. Then, as others pointed out, they, and other members of the team acted proud of it.

[GTTiger]

I'll give you that about the misleading final score; but I still have to wonder what would've happened with a little more honest or equal officiating. Like I said, it likely wouldn't have made a difference in the long run. As for both facemasks, neither guy ever let go. They snatched the guys down by the facemask. I was amazed neither one ended up paralyzed or decapitated... those were two of the worst facemask offenses I've ever seen, and it looked to me like they had no intention of letting up. Then, as others pointed out, they, and other members of the team acted proud of it.

If they let go and didn't tackle them with the facemask, then it would have been a 5 yard penalty. The ref's did there job there. The only two things I could see someone complaining about is the 1st down, which I'm sure the ref's didn't actually move the ball on national tv to keep the gamecocks from getting a 1st down. The only other thing is the late hit, and while that should have been called, it's not game changing. I'm sure there were things that went against LSU also.

[sheluvsbama]

Does LSU know there are thousands of cameras documenting every one of the nasty things they did and got away with? :ph34r: It makes me wonder. They looked more like one of the dirtier NFL teams, than a college team in the SEC. And what about the refs? No integrity and no shame. I saw most of this stuff as it happened, and was horrified then, too.:ohmy:

[GTTiger]

People need to stop saying "got away with" LSU got penalized for everything except the late hit. I'm sure there were calls that went both ways, but we havn't had an LSU fan go through and make a video.

[GTTiger]

With respect to the game also:

USC had 160 total yards until the last 4 min when they passed 80 yards against the prevent defense.

[TPM]

The late hit was def. a stupid move and should have called. The 2 facemask penalties looked horrific also, but to think any player on any team is out to intentionally seriously injure another player is ignorant.

[Tator]

With respect to the game also:

USC had 160 total yards until the last 4 min when they passed 80 yards against the prevent defense.

The Prevent Defense never does.

[gatorunvrsty]

The Prevent Defense never does.

Two of the great conundrums: Why doesn't a Prevent Defense ever do that, and why doesn't every team just go ahead and always run their 2-minute drill? :laugh:

[cocky4ever]

The late hit was def. a stupid move and should have called. The 2 facemask penalties looked horrific also, but to think any player on any team is out to intentionally seriously injure another player is ignorant.

They may have not been out to intentionally hurt a player, but it sure as hell didnt seem like they were too worried about it. Thank God we are sitting here complaining about horrible actions instead of worrying about a young mans future who suffered a spinal injury. McKinley could've easily suffered a severe injury on that play. Smelley could've(hell, Im actually surprised he didnt) suffer a serious injuryt on that play. And anyone who is saying they didnt intentionally tackle the player by the facemask is full of BS. They may not have been trying to hurt the SC players, but they knew what they were doing. A player knows when they have a facemask in their hand. And if they go ahead and pull it down or back or any other direction they pose a serious threat to the other players health. Both LSU players did that...and then celebrated like they had done something great. They werent concerned about the anyones health, and it showed. Now during the play on Captain Munnerlyn it actually did look like the LSU player intended to harm him. He wasnt just "trying to make the tackle" Thats a load of BS. Making a tackle doesnt mean running towards the play, seeing the player down, re-positioning your feet for a better angle, and then spearing a downed player in the back of the head/neck. For a moment it looked like it was gonna be really serious. Hell, at the moment we werent worried about losing a player for any amount of time....we were just glad when they rolled him onto his back because it meant his neck wasnt broken. Any of those 3 SC players could've been VERY SERIOUSLY injured. The fact that people can sit here and make excuses for that kind of play disgusts me.

[uscrules]

They may have not been out to intentionally hurt a player, but it sure as hell didnt seem like they were too worried about it. Thank God we are sitting here complaining about horrible actions instead of worrying about a young mans future who suffered a spinal injury. McKinley could've easily suffered a severe injury on that play. Smelley could've(hell, Im actually surprised he didnt) suffer a serious injuryt on that play. And anyone who is saying they didnt intentionally tackle the player by the facemask is full of BS. They may not have been trying to hurt the SC players, but they knew what they were doing. A player knows when they have a facemask in their hand. And if they go ahead and pull it down or back or any other direction they pose a serious threat to the other players health. Both LSU players did that...and then celebrated like they had done something great. They werent concerned about the anyones health, and it showed. Now during the play on Captain Munnerlyn it actually did look like the LSU player intended to harm him. He wasnt just "trying to make the tackle" Thats a load of BS. Making a tackle doesnt mean running towards the play, seeing the player down, re-positioning your feet for a better angle, and then spearing a downed player in the back of the head/neck. For a moment it looked like it was gonna be really serious. Hell, at the moment we werent worried about losing a player for any amount of time....we were just glad when they rolled him onto his back because it meant his neck wasnt broken. Any of those 3 SC players could've been VERY SERIOUSLY injured. The fact that people can sit here and make excuses for that kind of play disgusts me.I agree, 100%. I don't think it changes the game, but we will never know. I lost a lot of respect for the LSU team and Les Miles.

[GTTiger]

Tackling by the facemask happens. The penalty for it is 15 yards and an automatic first down. The ref's called it both times. I seriously doubt that the LSU players prefered to let South Carolina get a first down and 15 yards instead of a 15 yard sack.

Like I said earlier, there was a much worse facemask against Peyton Manning this weekend and it was the same call. They arn't gonna eject someone for something like that.

I'm glad no one got hurt though. I just think it's ridiculous to say that South Carolina got cheated on the facemask calls.

[uscrules]

I think you miss the whole point, we are no saying we got cheated. I say it was intentional and overboard, not accidental as you say.

[cocky4ever]

Tackling by the facemask happens. The penalty for it is 15 yards and an automatic first down. The ref's called it both times. I seriously doubt that the LSU players prefered to let South Carolina get a first down and 15 yards instead of a 15 yard sack.

Like I said earlier, there was a much worse facemask against Peyton Manning this weekend and it was the same call. They arn't gonna eject someone for something like that.

I'm glad no one got hurt though. I just think it's ridiculous to say that South Carolina got cheated on the facemask calls.

I think you're missing the point. I'm not saying we were cheated on the facemask calls...Im saying its disgusting to watch players play the game with such a total disregard for an opposing players health.

[gatorunvrsty]

Tackling by the facemask happens. The penalty for it is 15 yards and an automatic first down. The ref's called it both times. I seriously doubt that the LSU players prefered to let South Carolina get a first down and 15 yards instead of a 15 yard sack.
Like I said earlier, there was a much worse facemask against Peyton Manning this weekend and it was the same call. They arn't gonna eject someone for something like that.

I'm glad no one got hurt though. I just think it's ridiculous to say that South Carolina got cheated on the facemask calls.

I don't think that was their thought, either. I think they were willing to trade the penalties to make a statement and intimidate the other team. I believe they figured making the statement about their ferocity was more important to them and the game than the lost yardage. They decided it was worth it if it made USC play scared and caused mistakes... and that IS something that gets decided in the locker room prior to the game.

[sheluvsbama]

They committed these violations with a swaggering disregard for the consequences. They were unconcerned with how flagrant they might appear. I think they were revelling in their dirtiness and daring anyone to take note of it and complain.

[crawfish]

You guys have got to be kidding right? Okay, yea, all these things are in LSU's playbook and game plan. Give me a break! Wow!

[True Grit]

Please, its football. Some games there are more facemasks, etc than others. Most facemasks arent even intentional. The player is just grabbing whatever he firsts grabs on the other player.

[gatorunvrsty]

Please, its football. Some games there are more facemasks, etc than others. Most facemasks arent even intentional. The player is just grabbing whatever he firsts grabs on the other player.

You're absolutely right... and when that happens, the player lets go if it's unintentional. Neither of those guys did anything by accident. If you watch them again, they use the mask to make the tackle, and have plenty of time to release it, but CHOOSE not to. The first guy had ample time to let go of the mask, but took the guy all the way to the ground while wrenching his neck with it. The second one on the QB was just as bad, because the defender could have released the mask way before he'd ripped the helmet off. Hell, he'd already run the QB over... he didn't even need to grab anything, much less the facemask. And, he just kept running with it in his hands. BS yourself if you want, but we all saw what we saw.

[uscrules]

These incidents were decided before they went on to the field, You heard your own guy admit he heard the head coach tell the playing to do these things. It reminded me of the play of Miami back in the 80's, Play dirty as hell, to heck with a players life.

[Ellesshoo]

You're absolutely right... and when that happens, the player lets go if it's unintentional. Neither of those guys did anything by accident. If you watch them again, they use the mask to make the tackle, and have plenty of time to release it, but CHOOSE not to. The first guy had ample time to let go of the mask, but took the guy all the way to the ground while wrenching his neck with it. The second one on the QB was just as bad, because the defender could have released the mask way before he'd ripped the helmet off. Hell, he'd already run the QB over... he didn't even need to grab anything, much less the facemask. And, he just kept running with it in his hands. BS yourself if you want, but we all saw what we saw.

From my own experience playing football I've been guilty of a few face masks. Maybe you've played also and know what I mean here. For some reason whether it is your hand getting stuck in there, how fast things are happening, or that it is the only place you happen to have your hand on the guy it is difficult sometimes to completely get your hand out of there like it must seem to the armchair QB who gets to see it in slow motion. By the way, Favorite was NOT celebrating after the facemask, he looked like he was about to but then her clenched his fists in frustration at how the play should have ended up. Just look at his face right after.

Yall are insane to think LSU is trying to intimidate others with intentional facemasks. We do that just fine by knocking the crap out of guys legally.

[Ellesshoo]

These incidents were decided before they went on to the field, You heard your own guy admit he heard the head coach tell the playing to do these things. It reminded me of the play of Miami back in the 80's, Play dirty as hell, to heck with a players life.


update your computer with Sarcasm 2.0 please. :brick:

[gatorunvrsty]

From my own experience playing football I've been guilty of a few face masks. Maybe you've played also and know what I mean here. For some reason whether it is your hand getting stuck in there, how fast things are happening, or that it is the only place you happen to have your hand on the guy it is difficult sometimes to completely get your hand out of there like it must seem to the armchair QB who gets to see it in slow motion. By the way, Favorite was NOT celebrating after the facemask, he looked like he was about to but then her clenched his fists in frustration at how the play should have ended up. Just look at his face right after.

Yall are insane to think LSU is trying to intimidate others with intentional facemasks. We do that just fine by knocking the crap out of guys legally.

Well, I'm no coach, but I am pretty familiar with Spurrier; and I'd bet my last nickel that he was on the phone with Miles about that stuff the next day when they got home.

[crimsonnation713]

update your computer with Sarcasm 2.0 please. :brick:

That was funny...I don't care who you are. :thumpsup:

[GeauxTo]

Many of the South Carolina posters and sympathizers on here conjure up the image of snake-handler mentality; dumb is dumb, but man!
:laugh:

[Cianne]

They're all a bunch of dirty coonasses!

:ph34r:

[TPM]

They're all a bunch of dirty coonasses!

:ph34r:

And what kind of ass are you?

(Just having fun, I don't mean that.)

[Lawdog]

My two cents:

There may have been some missed/bad calls in the game. There was some dirty play in the game by LSU.

HOWEVER, neither of those cost USC the game. LSU was better. End of story.

I agree that taking the time to put a video together amounts to whining. Let's move on and look ahead to the Miss State game and the rest of the schedule....maybe we'll get another shot at LSU.

[OmahaBound]

The hit on Munnerlyn was 100% a cheap shot. I don't think anyone could deny that. However I really don't think Favorite intentionally tried to rip Smelley's head off with that facemask. Was it disturbing, careless, and terribly dangerous? Absolutely. I would hope the defensive coaches would spend some time this week urging the players to maintain that fire, but also maintain control. If that same play happened 5 times I'd bet at least once there would be a serious injury, and it is completely preventable.

I'm not going to condemn LSU for the actions of that one ahole that speared Munnerlyn, and since I personally don't think the facemasks were intentional I'm not going to hold those against them either. I just hope the coaches work with those players to make sure it doesn't happen again. I posted this in another thread, but overall I was actually impressed with LSU. They had that fire most of the game and barring that one dirty play and a handful of careless (but not malicious) plays I thought they handled themselves well.

[coolchicken]

My two cents:

There may have been some missed/bad calls in the game. There was some dirty play in the game by LSU.

HOWEVER, neither of those cost USC the game. LSU was better. End of story.

I agree that taking the time to put a video together amounts to whining. Let's move on and look ahead to the Miss State game and the rest of the schedule....maybe we'll get another shot at LSU.

You are damn right it is whining. You are damn right. It is whining because if we don't stick up for ourselves then who else will? Just look at the LSU posters on here. You think they are going to call out their own players? Hell no. I promise you this, if it would have been the other way around two things would have happened:

1.) I would sandblast the crap out of our players for being thugs. I have done it in the past and I will do it again. Sportsmanship does matter. You line up and you see who wins. I have not once attempted to say that if these things did not happen, SC would have won the game. I have never said that. What I have said is that as a former player and one who has kids he hopes to see play one day, I will stand up and bitch any time this kind of shit goes on. No one has the right to try and hurt someone just to win a damn game.

2.) LSU fans would be bitching right along with me.

If you want the bottom line here it is: LSU won the game fair and square. That does not mean that they play fair and square. It also does not mean that the frickin refs should not be called out for their blunders.

I make my living in the film industry and while I may put out a good product, if I screw up and do something unethical in the process, I would lose my funding and probably get sued as well. How are they any different? I can't believe LSU fans would even try to defend what some of their players did. How can you tolerate that?

With the spear to the back of the head the LSU defender: 1.) Stopped 2.) Set his legs 3.) launched off his back leg 4.) Tucked his helmet 5.) and flat out sunk it in to the SC players neck. You can try and say that it didn't happen but watch the video. He was a good 5 feet away when the play was over. It was intentional and the kid got away with it. What kind of message are you sending these guys as fans? It is ok to do it as long as you don't get a penalty? Would you not rather win with a little class?

I am a massive gamecock fan. I grew up watching them play. It has not always been easy to be a carolina fan. We have endured our share of trials and tribulations. Forgive me if I get a little defensive when someone tries to hurt the players. If Captain would have had a serious injury, no flag or what have you, this would be a completely different conversation. Or would it? Would you still be defending the tigers?

Up until this game, I had mad respect for LSU. Not anymore. Not just because of what happened on the field either. Because of you. People are so afraid to admit they or their team did something wrong. For someone reason you think it dims your self-worth. How sad is that?

[GTTiger]

You are damn right it is whining. You are damn right. It is whining because if we don't stick up for ourselves then who else will? Just look at the LSU posters on here. You think they are going to call out their own players? Hell no. I promise you this, if it would have been the other way around two things would have happened:

1.) I would sandblast the crap out of our players for being thugs. I have done it in the past and I will do it again. Sportsmanship does matter. You line up and you see who wins. I have not once attempted to say that if these things did not happen, SC would have won the game. I have never said that. What I have said is that as a former player and one who has kids he hopes to see play one day, I will stand up and bitch any time this kind of shit goes on. No one has the right to try and hurt someone just to win a damn game.

2.) LSU fans would be bitching right along with me.

If you want the bottom line here it is: LSU won the game fair and square. That does not mean that they play fair and square. It also does not mean that the frickin refs should not be called out for their blunders.

I make my living in the film industry and while I may put out a good product, if I screw up and do something unethical in the process, I would lose my funding and probably get sued as well. How are they any different? I can't believe LSU fans would even try to defend what some of their players did. How can you tolerate that?

With the spear to the back of the head the LSU defender: 1.) Stopped 2.) Set his legs 3.) launched off his back leg 4.) Tucked his helmet 5.) and flat out sunk it in to the SC players neck. You can try and say that it didn't happen but watch the video. He was a good 5 feet away when the play was over. It was intentional and the kid got away with it. What kind of message are you sending these guys as fans? It is ok to do it as long as you don't get a penalty? Would you not rather win with a little class?

I am a massive gamecock fan. I grew up watching them play. It has not always been easy to be a carolina fan. We have endured our share of trials and tribulations. Forgive me if I get a little defensive when someone tries to hurt the players. If Captain would have had a serious injury, no flag or what have you, this would be a completely different conversation. Or would it? Would you still be defending the tigers?

Up until this game, I had mad respect for LSU. Not anymore. Not just because of what happened on the field either. Because of you. People are so afraid to admit they or their team did something wrong. For someone reason you think it dims your self-worth. How sad is that?

I definitly think the late hit should have been called, but I don't think he was trying to hurt the South Carolina player.

The facemasking happens sometimes and it's unfortunate, but I like the fact that the LSU defense plays hard every play. They didn't mean to grab the facemask, but they did and they got called for it. I really don't know what you expect the refs to do about that.

[gatorunvrsty]

I definitly think the late hit should have been called, but I don't think he was trying to hurt the South Carolina player.

The facemasking happens sometimes and it's unfortunate, but I like the fact that the LSU defense plays hard every play. They didn't mean to grab the facemask, but they did and they got called for it. I really don't know what you expect the refs to do about that.

Exactly what they did... throw a flag and give 'em a 15 yard penalty; unless they actually yank the player down by the facemask and continue to twist it as he's nearly flat on the ground... then the player should be ejected for unsportsmanlike. Same with yanking the helmet off the QB long after you've trampled him. The QB IS supposed to be afforded special protection to begin with. Nobody's going to tell me the DL couldn't have let go of the helmet and facemask after he was all over the guy. That's BS. Like I said before: as he was running over the guy, there was no need for him to grab ahold of anything... the QB was run over. I think it's indicative of the all-around attitude and environment. They could have accomplished all the same things without the cheap shots. Like one of the LSU guys said: Why would our guys have to do that... they're intimidating enough without it. Great question... so why did they do it? Lack of discipline, that's why. It is reminiscent of Miami football in the '80's whether anyone wants to own up to it or not.

[Ralliartist]

I don't think that was their thought, either. I think they were willing to trade the penalties to make a statement and intimidate the other team. I believe they figured making the statement about their ferocity was more important to them and the game than the lost yardage. They decided it was worth it if it made USC play scared and caused mistakes... and that IS something that gets decided in the locker room prior to the game.

dude, you have earned my utmost respect!!!! If I could +rep you a billion times I would. Thanks for backing us.

[Ralliartist]

They committed these violations with a swaggering disregard for the consequences. They were unconcerned with how flagrant they might appear. I think they were revelling in their dirtiness and daring anyone to take note of it and complain.

same goes for you. Thanks for the kind words. I'd +rep you some more if I could.

[Ellesshoo]

Exactly what they did... throw a flag and give 'em a 15 yard penalty; unless they actually yank the player down by the facemask and continue to twist it as he's nearly flat on the ground... then the player should be ejected for unsportsmanlike. Same with yanking the helmet off the QB long after you've trampled him. The QB IS supposed to be afforded special protection to begin with. Nobody's going to tell me the DL couldn't have let go of the helmet and facemask after he was all over the guy. That's BS. Like I said before: as he was running over the guy, there was no need for him to grab ahold of anything... the QB was run over. I think it's indicative of the all-around attitude and environment. They could have accomplished all the same things without the cheap shots. Like one of the LSU guys said: Why would our guys have to do that... they're intimidating enough without it. Great question... so why did they do it? Lack of discipline, that's why. It is reminiscent of Miami football in the '80's whether anyone wants to own up to it or not.


If it is some systemic "thug" attitude then why hasn't MSU, Virginia Tech, or MTSU complained about such activity. Those facemasks were certainly of the 15 yard variety but neither of them were intentional and certainly not to the point where any Tiger wanted to cause serious physical harm by doing so. I think we've all agreed the late hit by Murphy was dumb/bad.

Don't try and label LSU as some thug team like "da U". I guarantee the guy that pushed the SC players head down while he was trying to get up and Richard Murphy will get a pretty good tongue lashing about those incidents from Coach Miles. Miles has run a very honest, transparent, and consistent system of dealing with players. He has canned multiple players (as in off the team, one out of the school) this year for even small run-ins with the law. Offenses that other teams have suspended players for only a few games for. And we're not talking Joe Blow Walk-on, he's harshly disciplined top prospects and he has been unwaivering in his consistency no matter who the player was. Do you have some bone to pick with LSU or are you just going off what you saw in one game? Most of us are moving on, don't worry about punishments, I can assure you Miles will deal with the situation.

[gatorunvrsty]

If it is some systemic "thug" attitude then why hasn't MSU, Virginia Tech, or MTSU complained about such activity. Those facemasks were certainly of the 15 yard variety but neither of them were intentional and certainly not to the point where any Tiger wanted to cause serious physical harm by doing so. I think we've all agreed the late hit by Murphy was dumb/bad.

Don't try and label LSU as some thug team like "da U". I guarantee the guy that pushed the SC players head down while he was trying to get up and Richard Murphy will get a pretty good tongue lashing about those incidents from Coach Miles. Miles has run a very honest, transparent, and consistent system of dealing with players. He has canned multiple players (as in off the team, one out of the school) this year for even small run-ins with the law. Offenses that other teams have suspended players for only a few games for. And we're not talking Joe Blow Walk-on, he's harshly disciplined top prospects and he has been unwaivering in his consistency no matter who the player was. Do you have some bone to pick with LSU or are you just going off what you saw in one game? Most of us are moving on, don't worry about punishments, I can assure you Miles will deal with the situation.

First, I haven't labeled the team another ThugU, but the defense definitely reminded me of the way they played; and I even said so as I watched. As you might expect, being from Florida, I've long watched and critiqued the behavior of their players and coaches. I'm not comparing LSU's team to the Miami teams of the '80's... I'm comparing how the defense of this one LSU team played on Saturday to the dirty, undisciplined defenses of those Miami teams... and it's not a silly comparison. Additionally, I'm not making any statements about off the field discipline, but the inability to control oneself on it. The popular definition of football, and defense, in particular, is controlled violence. I'm just saying a few of the LSU defensive players forgot about the controlled part; and that's indicative of a lack of discipline being imparted on a regular basis by the coaching staff. It's a coaching shortcoming at best; and an insult to the game if they suggested players do that kind of thing. Do I think the coaching staff told players to go out and hurt people? No. Do I think the players on defense need to be reprimanded and reminded that they're amateur athletes, and they could've likely ended a kid's career or worse on Saturday? Hell yes. And, I think that's precisely what y'all's coaching staff will do. But, that doesn't change the fact that those things have already happened, and that's what we're discussing here. They did, in fact, happen; and it's more than a little disconcerting that anyone would defend that kind of thing. These kids don't get paid... yet... and have no pension waiting for them if they're disabled by another KID. They all take the same risks because football is a violent sport, but what I saw on a few occasions Saturday wasn't football or sport... it was anger and rage with no conscience. I do think and hope your coaches and staff will point out the difference, while still praising the effort. As the original thread starter stated, if I saw or see UF players doing those things, I'll be twice as angry at our coaches and players... so much so that they'd be sick of the flood of correspondence coming from me. I'd be ashamed of my group, given the same circumstances. I've already fired off numerous e-mails to UF concerning our off-field discipline issues, and you can be quite certain they were not nearly as polite as my conversations here.

And, no, I don't have any issues with LSU, their players, coaches, or fans... at least not until some tried to justify and dismiss the behavior. I'm an equal-opportunity hater; and I hate you all just the same... well, maybe I hate Auburn more.:laugh: Seriously, anyone who's been here more than a month knows I'm just a straight shooter; but, I will tell it like it is, regardless of whether or not it ruffles any feathers. I give equal praise when it's deserved, and have been doing that in LSU's case for the last month. I've called them the class of the conference on more than one occasion. I think it's the LSU fan base that needs to be a little more objective... some of them speak before putting themselves in the opposing position. If the situation were reversed, I know for a fact the responses would be decidedly different. Our 2 teams agreed wholeheartedly about the travesties at AU last year... that's what confuses me the most, and how I know some of the LSU fans aren't being objective in their responses to this thread. Because it's about their team, they suddenly don't agree with the observations of someone who's neutral that they agreed with about another team.

All that said, I'll leave this one alone. I hope all turns out as it should with both teams, and whatever problems either should have get addressed and rectified. Just don't pull that sh*t on Tebow Oct. 6th... he'd play without a helmet if they'd let him, and definitely won't react the same way.:happy:

[MSUBULLY]

This is all just a bunch of BS whinning. This is FOOTBALL not water polo. Players get aggressive, sometimes overly aggressive, but when you've got that much testosterone flowing through your veins sometimes it gets the better of you. I've seen players on every team let this happen. It's unfortunate but there's nothing you can do. I'd rather have overly aggressive players than a team full of cupcakes.

[sheluvsbama]

It doesn't help your play when you lose control of yourself, and it is bad for the sport of football in general. Enthusiasm is one thing, but this kind of behavior is something else, altogether. We don't need it in football. I am sure that many LSU fans were outraged as well. And if you are out there on the field playing football, we all know that it is not a game for "cupcakes", to begin with. We just hope we never see injuries because someone wants to use the intimidation factor, hits with intent to harm, or lacks the dicipline to behave with class and sportsmanship.

[MSUBULLY]

I'm sure none of these players wanted to physically hurt anyone, but when you're out on the field, sometimes emotion just takes over. The refs did the right thing and threw the flag, but that's all one can do. You must remember these are 18 to 23 year old kids out there and everyone knows the old saying, "They're young, dumb, and full of Testosterome,(substitute with another word and there you go).

[GTTiger]

The players did not intend to grab the facemask when they went in for the tackle, it just happened that way. The ref's called it and that's the end of the story. There was no reason to eject the players, since there is more intent to hurt someone on a late hit on the QB and we rarely even see someone ejected for that.

[gatorunvrsty]

This is all just a bunch of BS whinning. This is FOOTBALL not water polo. Players get aggressive, sometimes overly aggressive, but when you've got that much testosterone flowing through your veins sometimes it gets the better of you. I've seen players on every team let this happen. It's unfortunate but there's nothing you can do. I'd rather have overly aggressive players than a team full of cupcakes.

You know what? That's the same stance I took a few months ago when we had the debate about horse-collar tackles; and I got my brains bashed in for it... ironically, by some of the same defenders here. I'm the one who was advocating the physical nature of the sport, and said I was sick of all the petty new protection rules; but, there is a difference between aggressive play, and cheap shots or blind rage. We all hear what players talk about. Crushing guys, and taking guys out is common banter; but there is a right and wrong way to do anything. It wasn't clean... period.

[MSUBULLY]

I usually agree with you on most things Gator, but not on this one. I've seen many games where this type of play was called good ole clean slabberknocking football. I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. Granted the facemask was a bad one but he got called for it, so there's no reason to harp over it anymore in my opinion.

[sheluvsbama]

I usually agree with you on most things Gator, but not on this one. I've seen many games where this type of play was called good ole clean slabberknocking football. I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. Granted the facemask was a bad one but he got called for it, so there's no reason to harp over it anymore in my opinion.

No reason to "harp", unless Miss. St. had been the victim of this behavior, however. :dry:

[MSUBULLY]

Unless you forgot we've already played LSU, and yes we've been the "victim" before and we've been the aggressor before. That's all part of the game though. Now had the refs not called anything then yeah, I would see the reason to be upset.

[gatorunvrsty]

Unless you forgot we've already played LSU, and yes we've been the "victim" before and we've been the aggressor before. That's all part of the game though. Now had the refs not called anything then yeah, I would see the reason to be upset.

Oh, I'm not upset... it's not Tebow that looks like the Headless Horseman.:laugh: I'm sure we've both watched a lot of football, but those 3 things stood out as horrific. Not just that they were facemasks (that's common); but how they were done, the seeming pride at doing them, and the repetitive nature of them isn't. After the first one, I'd think you wouldn't have seen anything like that the rest of the game as the coach ripped the first player a new one.

[DELTOR]

Alright, this doesn't have too much to do with the video but I'm kind of confused and lost. LSU fans keep saying they could have won by more than the 12 points, they tried to run the clock out, running basic plays, etc. I'm sorry but none of that makes sense to me. LSU is number 2 in the BCS poll right? And they have been for a month now, right? Is the BCS not a poll based on a formula that includes STYLE POINTS? I'm sorry, but either this "we could've won by more than 12 if we wanted to" is BS or Miles is just an idiot. Just thinking out loud.

[DELTOR]

Now, back to topic.

I watched the game with my girlfriend's dad. He's a big-time Clemson fan and alum. I think by the time that illegal procedure was called on us, when CLEARLY no one on our line moved, he said "Wow, this is one of the worst called games I can remember."

[Cianne]

And what kind of ass are you?

(Just having fun, I don't mean that.)

A jackass is the obvious answer based on my coonass comment.

[sheluvsbama]

Apparently LSU didn't consider Miss. St. a threat. This kind of play is designed to intimidate. This is the behavior of someone feeling threatened. LSU didn't consider you a threat, or you would have been graced with their wrath. I said that if Miss. St. had been treated this way, you would have been complaining about it, as well you should. It is certainly fun to watch spirited, aggressive play, but what we all saw exhibited last weekend, by the Tigers, was far and away beyond the line of acceptable. That is my opinion, and I have nothing further to discuss.

[Cianne]

1.) I would sandblast the crap out of our players for being thugs.

Do you blast Cory Boyd everytime he opens his mouth then? It's like a BET rap video everytime he says something.

[Zee]

Do you blast Cory Boyd everytime he opens his mouth then? It's like a BET rap video everytime he says something.


you have no idea what you are talking about

[aufan]

Clearly calls or no calls LSU would have won regardless...they are probably the best team in conference... BUT that was a horribly officiated game and some very very poor shots....that has to be admitted no matter who you are for

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

LOL @ the Gamecock conspiracy theories in a game they had no chance in.

[GTTiger]

Alright, this doesn't have too much to do with the video but I'm kind of confused and lost. LSU fans keep saying they could have won by more than the 12 points, they tried to run the clock out, running basic plays, etc. I'm sorry but none of that makes sense to me. LSU is number 2 in the BCS poll right? And they have been for a month now, right? Is the BCS not a poll based on a formula that includes STYLE POINTS? I'm sorry, but either this "we could've won by more than 12 if we wanted to" is BS or Miles is just an idiot. Just thinking out loud.

It's not that LSU could have won by more if they tried to, it's that LSU went to a very conservative game plan one they got to the 4th quarter. If you look at the play by play, LSU ran the ball almost every down. And when LSU got thier last TD it was against the prevent defense. It's not a jab at South Carolina, it's just how Miles decided to coach the end of the game. Either way, winning by 12 is good enough for me when playing the #12 team in the nation.

[Lawdog]

This conspiracy theory crap is ridiculous. Were there bad calls? Sure, I guess. I just don't care anymore about last weekend's game. Can we move beyond the LSU game? They are better. Perioid. Maybe we'll get another shot at them, maybe not. In the meantime, we've still got a lot of games left to play this year.

[coolchicken]

Do you blast Cory Boyd everytime he opens his mouth then? It's like a BET rap video everytime he says something.

You are damn straight I have. "Back like cooked crack" was one of the most retarded things I have ever heard a carolina player say. "That's how we roll bitch (Syvelle newton)." got blasted. The football team as a whole got blasted after the Clemson brawl. I love carolina but if they screw up, I am one of the first to point it out. I make no bones about it.

Side note: It is not about conspiracy theories. I HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER WE WOULD HAVE STILL LOST THE GAME (PROBABLY). The point has nothing to do with winning or losing. It's about protecting our players.

[cocky4ever]

Anyone who says those face mask penalties werent intentional either needs to:
A.)have their eyes checked, or
B.)watch more football

Just about all of the players on the field that day have been playing football about half their life. They know when they are holding a players face mask. How can you say that someone who grabs an opponents helmet while they are standing up and pulls on the facemask all the way to the ground didnt mean to do it? How can a player "accidentally" fly over another player grab on to something(what else would it be in his hand besides a facemask) and pull so hard that the opponent has his legs jerked out from under him while his helmet flys about 10 ft? Are you F'in serious??!!?

Yeah, the penalties were called...but we need to remember why the penatlies for that are so harsh in the first place. Because of the danger it poses to an opponent. We all remember the pro player who broke his neck earlier this year. Look at what David Pollack had happen to him in the pros. Im sure most of us have had been unfortunate enough to witness a player being carted off the field on a stretcher. It gives you an incredibly sick feeling in your stomach. Theres enough risk of that WITHOUT players showing total disregard for an opponents health by doing those things. And anyone who says they didnt mean to make those tackles by the facemask is a damn idiot. Thats about the nicest way I can put it.

[GeauxTo]

Bottom line...

South Carolina fans bragged and bragged about their conditioning coach and the wonderul condition their players were in... prior to the LSU game. But, alas, they found that LSU players were in much better condition than they were and physically manhandled the Cocksters throughout the game. Now they are "crowing" a different tune... LSU is now thug university. Whine, whine, whine is now the new cock-a-doodle-doo. My respect for South Carolina has diminished because of your unprecedented whining and bitching. Over the top by a mile.

[GTTiger]

Anyone who says those face mask penalties werent intentional either needs to:
A.)have their eyes checked, or
B.)watch more football

Just about all of the players on the field that day have been playing football about half their life. They know when they are holding a players face mask. How can you say that someone who grabs an opponents helmet while they are standing up and pulls on the facemask all the way to the ground didnt mean to do it? How can a player "accidentally" fly over another player grab on to something(what else would it be in his hand besides a facemask) and pull so hard that the opponent has his legs jerked out from under him while his helmet flys about 10 ft? Are you F'in serious??!!?

Yeah, the penalties were called...but we need to remember why the penatlies for that are so harsh in the first place. Because of the danger it poses to an opponent. We all remember the pro player who broke his neck earlier this year. Look at what David Pollack had happen to him in the pros. Im sure most of us have had been unfortunate enough to witness a player being carted off the field on a stretcher. It gives you an incredibly sick feeling in your stomach. Theres enough risk of that WITHOUT players showing total disregard for an opponents health by doing those things. And anyone who says they didnt mean to make those tackles by the facemask is a damn idiot. Thats about the nicest way I can put it.

The players had so much momentum once they grabbed hold of the facemask, that it was too late. Why would LSU intentionally facemask the USC QB towards the end of the game, giving USC a new set of downs instead of 3rd or 4th and Goal from the 25 yard line? It's just dumb to think it was intentional.

[GamecockDieHard]

Bottom line...

South Carolina fans bragged and bragged about their conditioning coach and the wonderul condition their players were in... prior to the LSU game. But, alas, they found that LSU players were in much better condition than they were and physically manhandled the Cocksters throughout the game. Now they are "crowing" a different tune... LSU is now thug university. Whine, whine, whine is now the new cock-a-doodle-doo. My respect for South Carolina has diminished because of your unprecedented whining and bitching. Over the top by a mile.

Our guys were "manhandled" and there's no denying that part. But I disagree that you're guys were better conditioned. We wouldn't have outscored you in the second half had we not been in better condition. You can crap all you want about laying off, but no one besides you delusional LSU fans believe that for a second.

If you think it's whining to be concerned about the safety of our players and playing the game with class, then you're the one with the problem. I could care less what you respect. You've already demonstrated that you "respect" dirty play. That says it all, IMO. If nothing else, the teams that are yet to play you will be able to have a head's up and, hopefully, the refs will have better control of the dangerous way LSU chooses to play. Most objective fans saw it the same way and know the refs allowed it for LSU. You can deny it all you want, it doesn't change the truth.

[GTTiger]

Our guys were "manhandled" and there's no denying that part. But I disagree that you're guys were better conditioned. We wouldn't have outscored you in the second half had we not been in better condition. You can crap all you want about laying off, but no one besides you delusional LSU fans believe that for a second.

If you think it's whining to be concerned about the safety of our players and playing the game with class, then you're the one with the problem. I could care less what you respect. You've already demonstrated that you "respect" dirty play. That says it all, IMO. If nothing else, the teams that are yet to play you will be able to have a head's up and, hopefully, the refs will have better control of the dangerous way LSU chooses to play. Most objective fans saw it the same way and know the refs allowed it for LSU. You can deny it all you want, it doesn't change the truth.

You do realize that it was the penalty that the refs did call that allowed you to score the final touchdown of the game, right? It would have been 4th and 19 without the penalty.

I won't argue who was in better shape, but I don't think that scoring some garbage points at the end of the game proves that south carolina is in better shape. They both seemed to have plenty of energy at the end of the game.

[The Ramp]

LMAO...the whining continues...i've been gone a couple of days and Cocks are still crying...amazing...

i'm sure you could make a video like that showing the other way around quite easily or for any team in any game for that matter. some fans need a pacifier...this is getting ridiculous. talk about sore losers

[GeauxTo]

You can deny it all you want, it doesn't change the truth.

The only truth here is that you are a little whiny jerk who wouldn't know "class" if it bit him in the azz!
:laugh:

[LedCock]

Bottom line...

South Carolina fans bragged and bragged about their conditioning coach and the wonderul condition their players were in... prior to the LSU game. But, alas, they found that LSU players were in much better condition than they were and physically manhandled the Cocksters throughout the game. Now they are "crowing" a different tune... LSU is now thug university. Whine, whine, whine is now the new cock-a-doodle-doo. My respect for South Carolina has diminished because of your unprecedented whining and bitching. Over the top by a mile.


I can say with all honesty that it has been a long time since I've seen facemasks like the ones I saw last saturday (early 80's Miami). I mean there were no attempts to take their hands off the facemasks even after the players were down. It was rediculous. With that said, yes LSU played a very physical game and for the most part played clean and earned the victory. But to the LSU fans who think the score was not accurate as to how the game went. Then why try and run the clock out with 6 or 7 minutes to go in the game? It couldn't be because Carolina had momentum could it?

[The Ramp]

all this hubub over two freaking facemask penalties that we got called for

amazing

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Hey Gamecock fans.....can we move on? We've got some good games coming up, all winnable....MSU, UK, UNC, and Vandy. I'm looking forward to, hopefully a good winning streak, to take us to 7-1 going into our final four tough game stretch with Tennessee, Arkansas, Florida, and Clemson.

We played a respectable game against the #2 team in the country. Let's look forward. JMHO. Go Gamecocks! :thumpsup:

[The Ramp]

Hey Gamecock fans.....can we move on? We've got some good games coming up, all winnable....MSU, UK, UNC, and Vandy. I'm looking forward to, hopefully a good winning streak, to take us to 7-1 going into our final four tough game stretch with Tennessee, Arkansas, Florida, and Clemson.

We played a respectable game against the #2 team in the country. Let's look forward. JMHO. Go Gamecocks! :thumpsup:

thank you


*golf clap*

[coolchicken]

The only truth here is that you are a little whiny jerk who wouldn't know "class" if it bit him in the azz!
:laugh:

Class? Check the signature.

Two facemasks? What? If that was the only issue... then that would be ok they got penalties for it.

The point of the video was to show that "two facemasks" were not the only dirty plays on LSU's PART.

I welcome anyone... ANYONE... to take the video of the LSU VS SC game, and display South Carolina's "Dirty plays."

GEAUX FOR IT.

Here is the rundown, THE SC VS LSU GAME which LSU WON and PROBABLY WOULD HAVE WON ANYWAY was poorly called and played very dirty by LSU.

LSU'S DIRTY PLAYS
1.) Two intentional facemasks in which LSU defenders jerked SC players to the ground. Both of which were celebrated.
2.) An uncalled intentional spear in the back of a SC player, AFTER THE PLAY WAS BLOWN DEAD, which by NCAA RULES CALLS FOR IMMEDIATE EJECTION AND A SUSPENSION OF 1 GAME.
3.) 4 blocks in the back on a return
4.) Intentional shove to the head of a downed SC player as he was trying to get up.
5.) Not the teams fault but a LSU fan ran off with a CBS commentators jacket (I put that one in as a joke even though it did happen).

There are more but I feel like I am beating a dead tiger.

POOR REFS
1.) The non call on the spear.
2.) Several "uncalled" pass interference calls
3.) The uncalled unsportsman like conduct (pushing carolina player's head to the ground)
4.) Moving the ball while measuring a first down.
5.) Calling SC for a false start where NO ONE MOVED.
6.) Whistling a play dead on a 4th and 1 just as SC snapped the ball in which they ran their play, which forced SC to call a different play.
7.) Placing the ball half a yard further back on the SAME play.

Shall I continue? All of this is on VIDEO. ALL OF THIS IS PROVEN.

How can you argue it?

The point of me even bringing all of this to light is not to say "SOUTH CAROLINA SHOULD HAVE WON THAT GAME." It is to say that this was one of the worst games I have ever watched and something should be done to prevent it from happening again. AND YES I WOULD STILL BE SAYING THE SAME DAMN THINGS IF SC DID BY SOME MIRACLE WIN THE GAME.

Nuff said. I am done with the argument.

[GTTiger]

You are ridiculous coolchicken.

1) The block in the backs aren't dirty, they are just poor play. Much like holding. The block in the backs were also called, so who cares?
2) The spearing was bad, but it wasn't after the play was blown dead, it was just really late. I don't support this play, but it was an isolated incident.
3) The shove down wasn't "nice", but it wasn't flagarant or even a penalty.
4) The video only showed one pass interference and it was questionable at best. I doubt that would get called 9/10 times.
5) The facemasks got called, get over it.

[2001_Cockyness]

Crying about not winning the game, and crying about how the game was officiated are two different things. I'm pretty sure all us gamecock fans are saying LSU would have won regardless and give props....We are just saying whether intentional or not, no facemasking to that extreme should have been celebrated, along with the Refs very questionable calls, and no calls.

It's obviously not just us carolina fans since other SEC fans seem to see this as well. Except LSU fans that is.

[DELTOR]

When that false start was called and NO ONE on our team moved, I jumped up and put my face right up to the screen where our line was of the 50 something inch tv for the replay. I didn't see a single pixel change color (which would insinuate movement). Just my one stupid thing I did, haha. I was so frustrated on so many levels and for so many reasons through that game.

[GeauxTo]

Well, all of this whining tells me one thing...

if we do get the chance to play South Carolina again, we really need to beat you badly to eliminate this woulda, coulda, shoulda crap from you whiny little cry babies. You are, without a doubt, the most ridiculous group of whiners I have ever encountered. My respect for South Carolina is quickly vanishing; but, as one of your whiners pointed out, that is of no concern to you.

I tried to stay out of this for a long time, thinking it would subside and run its course; but you cry babies won't stop. It was, for awhile, laughable, but now it has become disgusting.

[TPM]

Well, all of this whining tells me one thing...

if we do get the chance to play South Carolina again, we really need to beat you badly to eliminate this woulda, coulda, shoulda crap from you whiny little cry babies. You are, without a doubt, the most ridiculous group of whiners I have ever encountered. My respect for South Carolina is quickly vanishing; but, as one of your whiners pointed out, that is of no concern to you.

I tried to stay out of this for a long time, thinking it would subside and run its course; but you cry babies won't stop. It was, for awhile, laughable, but now it has become disgusting.

No doubt. One game and now everyone(well maybe not everyone) thinks the LSU team is a dirty team like we're DA'U from the '80s are something. For LSU to be regarded as a "Dirty Team" by some of you over some blocks in the back and some bad officiating is stupid.
I'll say that the facemask's PENALTIES were stupid on "2" of LSU players parts was dumb. The late hit by "1" player was dumb also, but to say that LSU is now a "Dirty Team". WOW!!!!!!
One guy was saying that LSU always gets the calls at home is completely wrong. I have sat in that stadium for many years and saw some pretty bad officiating against LSU as I'm sure all of you have seen against your team at home.
Also, I have NEVER heard of anyone saying that LSU has always played Dirty. It was 1 game.

[The Ramp]

all respect i had for scarl is gone. i've never seen a bigger group of whining sore loser crybabies. they act as if they NEVER committed a penalty and every play was a penalty against LSU. and every penalty against LSU was flagrant and intended to injury the other player. they take EVERY little thing so personal...i question if they've ever seen a football game before because this goes on EVERY game. waaa...LSU hits too hard...waaa..u can't tackle our qb..waaa...the DB was too close to our WR..waa

wait til they lose again and this ugly side of them shows their true homer colors who can only see things through black/red glasses...so sad because i had so much respect for their team playing so hard only ruined by sour grapes

[GTTiger]

all respect i had for scarl is gone. i've never seen a bigger group of whining sore loser crybabies. they act as if they NEVER committed a penalty and every play was a penalty against LSU. and every penalty against LSU was flagrant and intended to injury the other player. they take EVERY little thing so personal...i question if they've ever seen a football game before because this goes on EVERY game. waaa...LSU hits too hard...waaa..u can't tackle our qb..waaa...the DB was too close to our WR..waa

wait til they lose again and this ugly side of them shows their true homer colors who can only see things through black/red glasses...so sad because i had so much respect for their team playing so hard only ruined by sour grapes

I agree. I see these penalties every weekend in football games. The ref's call them and we move on. I saw a facemask just like the 2nd one in the LSU game this weekend in the Colts game. They happen.

[DELTOR]

I'm sorry, but what the hell are all of you talking about? Geaux? woulda shoulda whatever. It has been said and repeated many times by I think every single fan of USC that LSU won the game fair and square with much better talent. I never recall anyone saying we lost because of the game being called the way it was. Interesting the only ones saying we say we lost because of the officiating is the LSU fans themselves. I don't care anymore. Be blind all you want. My view on LSU has dropped and changed as well as your views on us. I don't care. And the reason they have dropped for me are not just the way the players carried themselves. It's the total blindness and closed-mindedness of their fans on this board. I'm done. Someone else can have the last word if they wish, because I'm not posting anymore in this thread. On to MSU.

[GTTiger]

I'm sorry, but what the hell are all of you talking about? Geaux? woulda shoulda whatever. It has been said and repeated many times by I think every single fan of USC that LSU won the game fair and square with much better talent. I never recall anyone saying we lost because of the game being called the way it was. Interesting the only ones saying we say we lost because of the officiating is the LSU fans themselves. I don't care anymore. Be blind all you want. My view on LSU has dropped and changed as well as your views on us. I don't care. And the reason they have dropped for me are not just the way the players carried themselves. It's the total blindness and closed-mindedness of their fans on this board. I'm done. Someone else can have the last word if they wish, because I'm not posting anymore in this thread. On to MSU.


It seems to be a two-way street of blindness. We have all formed our opinions and arn't going to change them.

[Ralliartist]

You LSU fans are some of the most classless fans I've ever encountered. May you lose-out the rest of your season somehow. lol. (not going to happen)

[GTTiger]

You LSU fans are some of the most classless fans I've ever encountered. May you lose-out the rest of your season somehow. lol. (not going to happen)

How are we without class? Because we disagree with you? The difference in our opinions versus your opinion is that we believe that facemasks happen often, and that both were unintentional. The South Carolina fans are convinced that the LSU players were on a mission to hurt the South Carolina players based solely on an extremely biased video.

Pretty much all of the LSU fans said that the late hit should have been called also, but we can't do anything about the fact that it wasn't.

[cocky4ever]

Well, all of this whining tells me one thing...

if we do get the chance to play South Carolina again, we really need to beat you badly to eliminate this woulda, coulda, shoulda crap from you whiny little cry babies. You are, without a doubt, the most ridiculous group of whiners I have ever encountered. My respect for South Carolina is quickly vanishing; but, as one of your whiners pointed out, that is of no concern to you.

I tried to stay out of this for a long time, thinking it would subside and run its course; but you cry babies won't stop. It was, for awhile, laughable, but now it has become disgusting.

Come on now Geaux, if you wanna see real whining I'll be glad to pull up the threads from last years LSU/Auburn game. And PLENTY of LSU fans blamed that loss on the officials, which not a single SC fan has done about this game. If you wanna defend the type of play LSU exhibited last Sat. go right ahead, but dont be a hypocrite about it:thumbsdow

[JerryBeeds]

So because four or five posters on a retarded message board say some things our entire fanbase is a bunch of whiny cry-babies? Gross overstatement of the year geauxs to the gentlemen in yellow pants.

[GeauxTo]

So because four or five posters on a retarded message board say some things our entire fanbase is a bunch of whiny cry-babies? Gross overstatement of the year geauxs to the gentlemen in yellow pants.

The entire state of South Carolina, their college football teams, their high school teams, their bullsh*t fans, and their entire citizenry SUCK and should be banned from all sports activity for the next 100 years.
:joke: (I still love Spurrier and the rest of you idiots!)
:laugh::biggrin2::beer:;):D

[GTTiger]

Yeah, Spurrier is awesome. I love how he always talks trash, especially to UGA and Tennessee.

[GTmorris1970]

Just got the transcript from Spurrier's teleconference. Here are a couple of points that have to do with the LSU game.

1. Jasper had surgery this morning, and plans to come back to Carolina next year.

2. Spurrier was informed Les Miles denied the helmet to helmet contact in the special teams play, and they asked him to comment. He said "go watch the tape."

3. Les Miles said Favorite did not intend to 'drag' Smelley down by the facemask, that linemen just grab a hold of whatever they touch. From what Spurrier said yesterday in his weekly press conference, must mean he also did not mean to throw the helmet to the ground or pound his chest in celebration. With all of the spinal injuries that have occured in football this year already, I'm surprised that was not an ejection. Officials have to get a handle on these things, and let players know beforehand if you commit a flagrant foul of that nature, your done for that game and face suspension. Some coaches will punish players for it, and some will defend them. Spurrier would have escorted Favorite to the bench himself had it been his player.

At any rate. I have yet to see ONE post where any Carolina supporter has blamed these occurences on SC losing the game. LSU was clearly the better team. However, after watching some of those plays again on the big screen, they were simply disgusting. During the game I noticed them, but was caught up in the excitement of the game. After watching days later, I'm not sure what to say. Those players were proud of what they did. They celebrated each time, and Les Miles, the times they showed him, said nothing. He still had that "Im taking it to Spurrier" look on his face. Football is a dangerous sport as it is. Win or lose, players MUST be made to play clean. There are enough injuries in this sport without cheap shots. It it were a Carolina player I would say the same thing. Eject them. Hell, Carlos Thomas got benched for an unsportsmanlike conduct call against UGA for spouting off to an official. As for the kick return, Spurrier said there were FIVE illegal blocks in the back on that one play after the players saw the flag on the field. I could only see two of them, but the camera was more so on the ball carrier. That is not 'accidental'. One or two yes. Five, no. LSU is a great team and I truly wish them the best. Hopefully their staff can work on their ethical conduct on the field so the SEC or NCAA doesn't have to.

[GeauxTo]

GT... I'll bet you're the kind of guy who gets a kick out of farting in his dog's face.
:wacko:

[GTmorris1970]

GT... I'll bet you're the kind of guy who gets a kick out of farting in his dog's face.
:wacko:

No. Just the kind of guy that believes in decency, honesty, and class. I'm really not into excuses and BS. Probably why I respect Spurrier so much.

[GTTiger]

No. Just the kind of guy that believes in decency, honesty, and class. I'm really not into excuses and BS. Probably why I respect Spurrier so much.

I really respect spurrier also. I just don't think that the plays were as big of a deal as this thread has made them out to be. Anyhow, we probably should just let all of this go, because all we are doing is bickering with each other and no one is going to convince anyone of anything. We are all to blind to the other team's point of view.

[sheluvsbama]

Now that we have all this settled, let's start putting this excessive energy into worrying about the next game. We all have one to think about, it is mid-week and just getting closer to gameday. There is alot of football ahead of us.:happy:

[GTmorris1970]

I really respect spurrier also. I just don't think that the plays were as big of a deal as this thread has made them out to be. Anyhow, we probably should just let all of this go, because all we are doing is bickering with each other and no one is going to convince anyone of anything. We are all to blind to the other team's point of view.


I agree. The game is over, and nothing is going to change. The officiating crew has apologized to Carolina for some of the calls, but mostly the ball spotting mistakes, which made no difference. I have mostly stayed out of these conversations, except passing along comments I have read from the staffs of the teams. It does bother me that Les Miles denies the helmet to helmet contact. Once again, it's over, but I'm sure you LSU fans would even agree that type behavior should be addressed. They watch the same game film Spurrier does. I have been sickened all year seeing all the knee and spinal injuries occuring at every level of football. Kids are just different now. Not just at LSU and/or Carolina, but everywhere. These 'cheap' shots go on everywhere, and officials and coaches IMO need to get a handle on it. The play Jasper got hurt on for instance was a perfectly clean play. That wasn't anyones fault.

[bmwparts]

all the lsu fans keep saying it happens on both sides??? well you post a couple of clips from that game where we did anything close to that crap and we'll all shut up!

[GeauxTo]

all the lsu fans keep saying it happens on both sides??? well you post a couple of clips from that game where we did anything close to that crap and we'll all shut up!


While GT only farts in his dog's face, you seem to be the kind of guy who actually poops in his dog's face.
:laugh:
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/GeauxTo/stfu.gif

[lovelsu2007]

While GT only farts in his dog's face, you seem to be the kind of guy who actually poops in his dog's face.
:laugh:
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/GeauxTo/stfu.gif
And your "reply" does NOTHING to erase people's opinion that LSU and its' fans are rude, crude and socially unacceptable. Talking about dog poop in relation to another person is just, well: rude, crude and socially unacceptable.

LSU is judged by how our fans post on the board. The fans either inspire respect for LSU and its' fan, football program, etc OR we lose respect based on our replies.

Ask yourself which side of respect you fall on before you post and represent LSU.

[GTmorris1970]

And your "reply" does NOTHING to erase people's opinion that LSU and its' fans are rude, crude and socially unacceptable. Talking about dog poop in relation to another person is just, well: rude, crude and socially unacceptable.

LSU is judged by how our fans post on the board. The fans either inspire respect for LSU and its' fan, football program, etc OR we lose respect based on our replies.

Ask yourself which side of respect you fall on before you post and represent LSU.

Don't worry about it. I work around Trauma Surgeons in management all day. I have had much worse said to and about me. :laugh: You won't see me returning the grenade fire however. Most of us Carolina fans are good folks. Actually, most of the people in South Carolina are good folks.

[GeauxTo]

And your "reply" does NOTHING to erase people's opinion that LSU and its' fans are rude, crude and socially unacceptable. Talking about dog poop in relation to another person is just, well: rude, crude and socially unacceptable.

LSU is judged by how our fans post on the board. The fans either inspire respect for LSU and its' fan, football program, etc OR we lose respect based on our replies.

Ask yourself which side of respect you fall on before you post and represent LSU.

Get a grip! We're playing around here. Why don't you take a swim in the Bayou and cool off.

[Lawdog]

This is what is happening to me from reading the ongoing ranting about last week:

YouTube - head explode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEw5BiCa6EA)

We've got MSU ahead, Gamecocks!

[Fl_native]

Are we sure LSU didn't trade Jimbo Fisher for Mickey Andrews? Looked like the FSU defenses from the 90s. They were famous for pushing the envelope and racked up a lot of fouls. Very effective defenses but on the edge.

[The Ramp]

You LSU fans are some of the most classless fans I've ever encountered. May you lose-out the rest of your season somehow. lol. (not going to happen)

feelings mutual...i can't wait to hear the excuses when ya'll lose again...i look forward to it. cry me a frigging river...i've never seen such drama queens:crying:

[PapaChief]

Some of the guys posting early were awful loose with the term “Thugs” when it comes to LSU players. LSU players play inspired ball and like everyone, let’s their emotion get them into trouble at times. And they have been known to get into trouble off the field sometimes too. Just like everywhere else. But they are not thugs. And talking about character …….let's look at some of the Gamecock finest.
These fellows were on the Gamecock rooster at the beginning of the year. Some are still there.
1.Guerry – Alcohol arrest
2.Thompson – burglary
3.Smith – burglary
4.Mainord – theft
5.Telfort – theft
6.Brownlee – theft
7.Newton – theft
8.Pinkins – theft
9.Saint-Preux – theft
10.Wilson – theft

Source: Gamecock receiver arrested : Fanblogs College Football Blog (http://www.fanblogs.com/south_carolina/004967.php)

[The Ramp]

Some of the guys posting early were awful loose with the term “Thugs” when it comes to LSU players. LSU players play inspired ball and like everyone, let’s their emotion get them into trouble at times. And they have been known to get into trouble off the field sometimes too. Just like everywhere else. But they are not thugs. And talking about character …….let's look at some of the Gamecock finest.
These fellows were on the Gamecock rooster at the beginning of the year. Some are still there.
1.Guerry – Alcohol arrest
2.Thompson – burglary
3.Smith – burglary
4.Mainord – theft
5.Telfort – theft
6.Brownlee – theft
7.Newton – theft
8.Pinkins – theft
9.Saint-Preux – theft
10.Wilson – theft

Source: Gamecock receiver arrested : Fanblogs College Football Blog (http://www.fanblogs.com/south_carolina/004967.php)


didn't SCarl win the Fulmer Cup last year?

[OmahaBound]

Some of the guys posting early were awful loose with the term “Thugs” when it comes to LSU players. LSU players play inspired ball and like everyone, let’s their emotion get them into trouble at times. And they have been known to get into trouble off the field sometimes too. Just like everywhere else. But they are not thugs. And talking about character …….let's look at some of the Gamecock finest.
These fellows were on the Gamecock rooster at the beginning of the year. Some are still there.
1.Guerry – Alcohol arrest
2.Thompson – burglary
3.Smith – burglary
4.Mainord – theft
5.Telfort – theft
6.Brownlee – theft
7.Newton – theft
8.Pinkins – theft
9.Saint-Preux – theft
10.Wilson – theft

Source: Gamecock receiver arrested : Fanblogs College Football Blog (http://www.fanblogs.com/south_carolina/004967.php)

Haha, I applaud your research for finding data over two years old. Guerry is the only one on that list on the team, and he's so integral to our program that he doesn't have a schollie (I believe) and hasn't played a snap. He wasn't even a member of the travel squad when he was arrested in Athens after the UGa game.

As for Ramp's comment on the Fulmer Cup....last year we were tied for #21 with 2 points. So close to being number 1, right?:laugh:

This year we were tied for #26 with 4 points. Your LSU Tigers proved dominant again though, with a top 10 finish and 10 total points.

Ramp, my guess is you were just throwing that comment out to get a rise out of the whiners but it really just makes you look like as much of a 5 yr old as the others.

As Lawdog basically said....let's just all shut up about it.:thumpsup::thumpsup:

[The Ramp]

As for Ramp's comment on the Fulmer Cup....last year we were tied for #21 with 2 points. So close to being number 1, right?:laugh:

This year we were tied for #26 with 4 points. Your LSU Tigers proved dominant again though, with a top 10 finish and 10 total points.

Ramp, my guess is you were just throwing that comment out to get a rise out of the whiners but it really just makes you look like as much of a 5 yr old as the others.

As Lawdog basically said....let's just all shut up about it.:thumpsup::thumpsup:

that's why i phrased it as a QUESTION (hence the question mark). my bad i think ya'll finished #2 in 2005:thumpsup:

[OmahaBound]

that's why i phrased it as a QUESTION (hence the question mark). my bad i think ya'll finished #2 in 2005:thumpsup:

last year was its first year.
Fulmer Cup Dynasty - SAS Wiki (http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Fulmer_Cup_Dynasty)

[The Ramp]

last year was its first year.
Fulmer Cup Dynasty - SAS Wiki (http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=Fulmer_Cup_Dynasty)

i distinctly remember 10 scarl players getting arrested in 2005...right before spurrier made some joke about fulmer's program

[GTTiger]

Haha,

I was going through that website that was just linked and this is the LSU page:

LSU Tigers - SAS Wiki (http://www.sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=LSU_Tigers)

It says we're in "Tragedy Mode" and if you route against us then you are a terrorist.

Sweet!

[OmahaBound]

i distinctly remember 10 scarl players getting arrested in 2005...right before spurrier made some joke about fulmer's program

The fulmer cup wasn't in existence yet luckily for us. :laugh:

[uofmrebels1]

Some of the guys posting early were awful loose with the term “Thugs” when it comes to LSU players. LSU players play inspired ball and like everyone, let’s their emotion get them into trouble at times. And they have been known to get into trouble off the field sometimes too. Just like everywhere else. But they are not thugs. And talking about character …….let's look at some of the Gamecock finest.
These fellows were on the Gamecock rooster at the beginning of the year. Some are still there.
1.Guerry – Alcohol arrest
2.Thompson – burglary
3.Smith – burglary
4.Mainord – theft
5.Telfort – theft
6.Brownlee – theft
7.Newton – theft
8.Pinkins – theft
9.Saint-Preux – theft
10.Wilson – theft

Source: Gamecock receiver arrested : Fanblogs College Football Blog (http://www.fanblogs.com/south_carolina/004967.php)

WOW....How did this thread get so way off topic. I thought it was about someone complaining that LSU giving cheap shots and bad calls. Dang some people have to much time on there hands.

[GatorHunter]

Wow!!!!!

I just watched this video...I watched a limited amount of the LSU-SC game so I didn't realize what "went down"...

I guess I finally understand why so many on this board believe Tebow could get injured playing LSU...:(

[The Ramp]

Wow!!!!!

I just watched this video...I watched a limited amount of the LSU-SC game so I didn't realize what "went down"...

I guess I finally understand why so many on this board believe Tebow could get injured playing LSU...:(

dude...anyone could make a video like this about any team at any game. just selectively pick and choose what plays you want.

[MSUBULLY]

I agree, this whole griping about rough play is just sour grapes.

[NextYearIsHere]

Ofcourse you agree, you werent playing an LSU team that knew if they didnt try to hurt and intimadate you they might not have won. You cant say that every team does what LSU because its simply not true. If it is, you make a 6 min tape of all the wrong doings my team did. You played like thugs because its worth it when your refs will call it but wont toss you for it. I dont think we would have beat you if you played clean but atleast we'd still have respect for you. I wonder if you'll play like that vs Fla? Doesnt matter I guess, see you in Atlanta

[D^3]

Ofcourse you agree, you werent playing an LSU team that knew if they didnt try to hurt and intimadate you they might not have won. You cant say that every team does what LSU because its simply not true. If it is, you make a 6 min tape of all the wrong doings my team did. You played like thugs because its worth it when your refs will call it but wont toss you for it. I dont think we would have beat you if you played clean but atleast we'd still have respect for you. I wonder if you'll play like that vs Fla? Doesnt matter I guess, see you in Atlanta



Oh spare us your pathetic excuses. YOU LOST. You could have played that game TEN TIMES and you still would have lost. You south carolina fans that think you are as good as LSU are borderline nut-jobs. They won the football game fair and square, quit your bitching. The only respect being lost is the whole board's respect for South Carolina fans who can't seem to take a loss with dignity. You have to go down whining like babies about LSU being "too rough."

Somehow I don't think LSU cares if you respect them or not, the rest of the whole f'ing country does, except for you wacko's in Columbia, and No, you WON'T see them in Atlanta, because you won't BE in Atlanta.

[The Ramp]

Ofcourse you agree, you werent playing an LSU team that knew if they didnt try to hurt and intimadate you they might not have won. You cant say that every team does what LSU because its simply not true. If it is, you make a 6 min tape of all the wrong doings my team did. You played like thugs because its worth it when your refs will call it but wont toss you for it. I dont think we would have beat you if you played clean but atleast we'd still have respect for you. I wonder if you'll play like that vs Fla? Doesnt matter I guess, see you in Atlanta

i hope we do see you again in Atlanta. i look forward to a whole new batch of whiney poor sport sour grapes excuses when ya'll lose again.:crying::cry:

as far as respect goes...i still respect your team, but i have zero respect for your crybaby fans

[GTTiger]

i hope we do see you again in Atlanta. i look forward to a whole new batch of whiney poor sport sour grapes excuses when ya'll lose again.:crying::cry:

as far as respect goes...i still respect your team, but i have zero respect for your crybaby fans

Yeah, I wonder what the game would be like with Early Doucet in the game.

[GeauxTo]

except for you wacko's in Columbia,

Ha-Ha
:laugh:
Classic!

Spurrier & Gamecock Team :thumpsup:

Whiny little bitchy fans:thumbsdow

[roosterbooster]

Some of the guys posting early were awful loose with the term “Thugs” when it comes to LSU players. LSU players play inspired ball and like everyone, let’s their emotion get them into trouble at times. And they have been known to get into trouble off the field sometimes too. Just like everywhere else. But they are not thugs. And talking about character …….let's look at some of the Gamecock finest.
These fellows were on the Gamecock rooster at the beginning of the year. Some are still there.
1.Guerry – Alcohol arrest
2.Thompson – burglary
3.Smith – burglary
4.Mainord – theft
5.Telfort – theft
6.Brownlee – theft
7.Newton – theft
8.Pinkins – theft
9.Saint-Preux – theft
10.Wilson – theft

Source: Gamecock receiver arrested : Fanblogs College Football Blog (http://www.fanblogs.com/south_carolina/004967.php)


Note the date of the article. Most of those guys left with Lou. 50% of them were arrested for stealing a picture of themselves. 1 remains on the roster, and would he without an alcohol arrest in his teams history please chunk the first rock.

I am not making excuses for them, just setting the record straight that only 10% of those mentioned were on the active roster at the beginning of the year.

[roosterbooster]

Oh spare us your pathetic excuses. YOU LOST. You could have played that game TEN TIMES and you still would have lost. You south carolina fans that think you are as good as LSU are borderline nut-jobs. They won the football game fair and square, quit your bitching. The only respect being lost is the whole board's respect for South Carolina fans who can't seem to take a loss with dignity. You have to go down whining like babies about LSU being "too rough."

Somehow I don't think LSU cares if you respect them or not, the rest of the whole f'ing country does, except for you wacko's in Columbia, and No, you WON'T see them in Atlanta, because you won't BE in Atlanta.

I think we have more than our fair share of that type of fan. I know some who will immediately after a questionable call in the 1st quarter with the score tied shout that is going to cost us the game.

[TPM]

I watched the USC game last Sat. and noticed 2 helmets that came off of there players heads after no contact with an opposing players hand touching there helmet. The facemask on USC's QB by LSU was wrong by the LSU player. But maybe, just maybe, the facemask was not as bad as it looked. I mean USC maybe needs to fit there players heads better?

[coolchicken]

Somehow I don't think LSU cares if you respect them or not, the rest of the whole f'ing country does, except for you wacko's in Columbia, and No, you WON'T see them in Atlanta, because you won't BE in Atlanta.

the rest of the country doesn't. just check the comments on the video. other than they LSU fans (who have made trogs of themselves by the way) everyone is pretty much saying they played dirty.

I don't know if any of these calls changed the outcome of the game... too bad we didn't get to find out.

[GTTiger]

the rest of the country doesn't. just check the comments on the video. other than they LSU fans (who have made trogs of themselves by the way) everyone is pretty much saying they played dirty.

I don't know if any of these calls changed the outcome of the game... too bad we didn't get to find out.

It's a biased video, what do you expect? LSU dominated the game, I doubt an extra penalty or two would have changed it.

[The Ramp]

It's a biased video, what do you expect? LSU dominated the game, I doubt an extra penalty or two would have changed it.

no kidding...when you selectively pick and choose what plays to show, of course it's gonna be biased. i wonder if Michael Moore directed it

[sheluvsbama]

no kidding...when you selectively pick and choose what plays to show, of course it's gonna be biased. i wonder if Michael Moore directed it

Michael Moore? Don't be naughty.

[The Ramp]

Michael Moore? Don't be naughty.

watch out or i'll facemask you intentionaly:angry:

[Rastus]

Oh spare us your pathetic excuses. YOU LOST. You could have played that game TEN TIMES and you still would have lost. You south carolina fans that think you are as good as LSU are borderline nut-jobs. They won the football game fair and square, quit your bitching.
Just about every post from SC fans talking about LSU says in their post that LSU was a superior team and would have won it anyway. That's not excuses, we've played a lot of tough teams, won some and lost others. No threads ever took off like this talking about Fla., Tenn., Auburn, etc., or your bulldogs and you're ten times more abrasive than LSU fans. If we just wanted to crack on somebody it would be Ga. I don't think you bother to read half of what people type, or either you just stay in such a rage you can't think straight. If you did, you'd see that I'm not the first to try to point that out to your cranky ass.

This thread ought to close.

[NextYearIsHere]

Hey DevilDawgDan, are all Bulldogs fans as illiterate as you? What did I say in my post... I said LSU would still have won. How am I whinning about a lost when I admit defeat. I think I smell some left over anger from 16-12 between the Hedges. I've yet to see a post saying if LSU played clean we would have won. Its not whinning when you show players are trying to hurt others. Lets see what happens this week vs Fla. If LSU plays clean then maybe you can say that it was a one time thing or that USC is being "micheal moore-ish" and only picking selective plays, but if not... If LSU uses cheap tactics in the FLA game, I and every gamecock on here deserve a full apology from you and the LSU posters.

Saturday will prove whether its all in our heads or if LSU uses cheap shots againest good teams.

[GTTiger]

Hey DevilDawgDan, are all Bulldogs fans as illiterate as you? What did I say in my post... I said LSU would still have won. How am I whinning about a lost when I admit defeat. I think I smell some left over anger from 16-12 between the Hedges. I've yet to see a post saying if LSU played clean we would have won. Its not whinning