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Bliss
09-23-2007, 08:38 PM
A problem I see Florida having is mass transfers. There are simply too many stars sitting on the bench that would see the field elsewhere. For example Deonte Thompson. The kid runs a 4.28 and hasn't seen the field a lick all season. He'd either be starting or at least seeing the field anywhere else.

Major Wright should be starting.

Jeremy Finch is simply a beast, he needs to see the field a bit more.

John Brown and Torrey Davis, two beast on the D-Line have seen the filed very little if at all. Same with the 6-7 260 pound D-end Carlos Dunlap.

And I may sound like a broken record saying this, but the underrated steal we got in Chris Rainey also needs to play.

Don't be surprised if you don't see Florida in the top recruiting classes this year. Kids simply won't commit because they know they won't play. Especially the running backs.

Rebel Chuck
09-23-2007, 08:39 PM
A problem I see Florida having is mass transfers. There are simply too many stars sitting on the bench that would see the field elsewhere. For example Deonte Thompson. The kid runs a 4.28 and hasn't seen the field a lick all season. He'd either be starting or at least seeing the field anywhere else.

Major Wright should be starting.

Jeremy Finch is simply a beast, he needs to see the field a bit more.

John Brown and Torrey Davis, two beast on the D-Line have seen the filed very little if at all. Same with the 6-7 260 pound D-end Carlos Dunlap.

And I may sound like a broken record saying this, but the underrated steal we got in Chris Rainey also needs to play.

Don't be surprised if you don't see Florida in the top recruiting classes this year. Kids simply won't commit because they know they won't play. Especially the running backs. I want your problem

GTTiger
09-23-2007, 08:48 PM
These players know the situation they are getting into when they commit. USC has like 10 5-star RB's on thier team.

Bliss
09-23-2007, 08:51 PM
These players know the situation they are getting into when they commit. USC has like 10 5-star RB's on thier team.

3 and one's already transfered.

TDArkansasOhmy
09-23-2007, 08:54 PM
I often wondered how these sort of things went at places like Florida, SC, LSU, Florida State and Miami. geing is a hotbed of HS talent you would only think this could be a real possiblity. IM like Chuck, I wish we had your problem, But I'd much rather have your coach.

TigersFanTaylor
09-23-2007, 08:54 PM
3 and one's already transfered.

To Florida...:laugh:

Bliss
09-23-2007, 08:59 PM
To Florida...:laugh:

True, but once he notices the QB will receive most of the carries......

What about the receivers? Why wasn't that David Nelson kid benched for some hot young talent after his horrible performance?

Why hasn't Kyle Jackson been benched for a better, younger player?

Why not throw Newton in their to take some of the carries?

Why not sub our RB when he's dinged up for some fresher faster legs.

etc, etc. Soon the kids will get to wondering the same thing.

TigersFanTaylor
09-23-2007, 09:01 PM
I wish Tennessee had so much speed and talent we didn't know what to do with it. Man, Florida is in some kind of predicament....

Don't worry man. You'll keep pulling in recruits. USC has been facing the same situation for a while now, and they still have a top recruiting class every year. Players love to get the chance to play on a top dog team.

Bliss
09-23-2007, 09:05 PM
I wish Tennessee had so much speed and talent we didn't know what to do with it. Man, Florida is in some kind of predicament....

Don't worry man. You'll keep pulling in recruits. USC has been facing the same situation for a while now, and they still have a top recruiting class every year. Players love to get the chance to play on a top dog team.

Your probably right. :sad:

TigersFanTaylor
09-23-2007, 09:37 PM
Your probably right. :sad:

I hope I'm wrong though...:thumpsup:

shanksta13
09-23-2007, 09:53 PM
Having guys transfer isn't exactly a new thing at Florida, it's happened a few times in recent memory. For example, Josh Portis transferred to Maryland and Nyan Boateng transferred to Cal both within the last 2 years. Both were highly recruited players out of high school. It wouldn't surprise me if we lose a few guys to transfers, but that shouldn't really affect they type of incoming talent that we get.

Lawdog
09-23-2007, 10:06 PM
I often wondered how these sort of things went at places like Florida, SC, LSU, Florida State and Miami. geing is a hotbed of HS talent you would only think this could be a real possiblity. IM like Chuck, I wish we had your problem, But I'd much rather have your coach.

If you are insinuating that the South Carolina Gamecocks have an overabundance of talent (like Florida) - so much that we worry about transfers - that would be incorrect. We are still trying to get to that point. I don't think USC has ever had that level of talent. That's why USC has only had one 10-win season....ever.....and USC has been playing football for about 115 years.

Perhaps you were referring to Southern Cal? If so, disregard my comment altogether. LOL.

GatorChomp
09-23-2007, 10:13 PM
I think you are worrying largely over nothing. Players can't really expect to go into a top program like Florida and be given a starting position in the first few games.

We will run the ball a lot more with the Running Back once we get Moody and if Rainey can start to tear it up. Right now Moore isn't really a spectacular back. He isn't bad, but he isn't a top notch RB that you can really center your running game around.

A lot of these guys really want to play for Florida (or whatever team they are on) and want to work hard to become a starter. They will get more touches as they improve. Just be patient.

Seppeh
09-23-2007, 10:16 PM
I want your problem

Yeah, that.

GatorHunter
09-23-2007, 10:17 PM
A problem I see Florida having is mass transfers. There are simply too many stars sitting on the bench that would see the field elsewhere. For example Deonte Thompson. The kid runs a 4.28 and hasn't seen the field a lick all season. He'd either be starting or at least seeing the field anywhere else.

Major Wright should be starting.

Jeremy Finch is simply a beast, he needs to see the field a bit more.

John Brown and Torrey Davis, two beast on the D-Line have seen the filed very little if at all. Same with the 6-7 260 pound D-end Carlos Dunlap.

And I may sound like a broken record saying this, but the underrated steal we got in Chris Rainey also needs to play.

Don't be surprised if you don't see Florida in the top recruiting classes this year. Kids simply won't commit because they know they won't play. Especially the running backs.

Most of these guys have seen the field:

Deonte Thompson is hopefully gonna be RS...he is to take Bubba's spot next season...that was the plan all along...and he's quite happy with it since he's still learning the offense.

Jerimy Finch did play a lot...he had a INT vs UT...was tackled and broke his ankle...he is getting a medical RS for this season and will be back next.

Carlos Dunlap and Torrey Davis have both played extensively...except for this past Saturday...Dunlap blocked two punts vs WKU. Meyer said during his teleconference today that he doesn't understand why Strong/Mattison didn't sub during the OM game...basically, our 4 DL played the whole game.

Thanks to the NCAA Clearinghouse, John Brown wasn't cleared academically until two weeks ago...missing a substantial amount of practice time and one game. Coach Meyer decided to RS him...let him get acclimated to college life and college academics (he's got a learning disability). He'll be a beast next season.

Chris Rainey is young and full of piss-n-vinegar...he's been playing every game...had a great KO return vs Troy but fumbled the ball....he's also cost us with running into the punter twice and KO returner twice. Meyer is gonna bring him along slow. We'll see more of him as the season progresses.

Don't worry about transfers. We won't lose anyone this season...but with the talent that Meyer is getting, it'll be a matter of time. But not this season.

autiger1126
09-23-2007, 10:40 PM
a team usually loses 5 or 6 guys a year for some reason or another, it's not anything to worry about. if a guy feels he can't compete then do you really want him there anyway?

gatorunvrsty
09-23-2007, 10:42 PM
This is the dumbest thread I've seen today. Every guy who comes to UF knows he's not guaranteed a starting spot, or even playing time. They know coming in that UF has a stable full of 5-star guys. All they have to be able to do is read. That's half the reason they come to the Gators in the first place... to be surrounded by, and to learn from, guys who will make them better, and a group who has a chance to play for a NC. Read their interviews... they all say they came to UF to win a NC, and are excited about competing with the best for PT. All that aside, Meyer is the one coach I've noticed who plays a lot of his freshmen right away. Maybe not 4 games into the season, as they haven't had time to learn enough yet; but, he played freshmen all last year. He's the guy who, in interviews, always gets asked why he lets freshmen play; and he responds that in this day and age of guys leaving early, you have to if you want to get a decent amount of production out of them. Several freshmen are already playing, and a few are starting. The skill positions take a lot longer to learn though. Even this year's recruits say they came here because they want to play with the best.

Sannyasin
09-23-2007, 10:46 PM
Boo freaking Hoo.


Signed,
University of Kentucky
Vanderbilt University
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
South Carolina prior to Spurrier
....
and every other non-SEC team not named USC in the U.S.

KillerNut
09-23-2007, 10:46 PM
A problem I see Florida having is mass transfers. There are simply too many stars sitting on the bench that would see the field elsewhere. For example Deonte Thompson. The kid runs a 4.28 and hasn't seen the field a lick all season. He'd either be starting or at least seeing the field anywhere else.

Major Wright should be starting.

Jeremy Finch is simply a beast, he needs to see the field a bit more.

John Brown and Torrey Davis, two beast on the D-Line have seen the filed very little if at all. Same with the 6-7 260 pound D-end Carlos Dunlap.

And I may sound like a broken record saying this, but the underrated steal we got in Chris Rainey also needs to play.

Don't be surprised if you don't see Florida in the top recruiting classes this year. Kids simply won't commit because they know they won't play. Especially the running backs.

Florida will be fine and while Urban Meyer is coach, they will continue to bring in top tier recruits because of the programs success. Great teams don't rebuild, they reload and any certain elite team would need this kind of talent to make it happen. A lot of your top schools like Florida, LSU, Ohio State, Southern Cal, etc.. all have boat loads of talent sitting on the bench or redshirting as freshmen that would start at most other programs. That is why these programs are constantly ranked in the top 10 year after year.

Sannyasin
09-24-2007, 12:26 AM
Want a picture of what recruiting is like for a clean, hopefully up-and-coming, have-not program in a state that doesn't produce a ton of top level talent?
http://kentucky.rivals.com/commitlist.asp
Killing yourself finding hidden gems all over the country that the local programs don't discover, hunting guys you can convert to other positions, or guys that aren't quite good (or high profile) enough to get an offer from the big-time in-state schools.

That looks worse than it is with a lot of in-state talent that is likely to commit just waiting things out right now (and hopefully a couple of in-staters that got pouched by big-name programs reconsidering their commitments), but don't even come on here and worry about, or talk crap about, recruiting at Florida:
http://florida.rivals.com/commitlist.asp


If you know a kid that (a) can run under a 4.5, or is otherwise a three star+ talent, (b) is an offensive playmaker or likes to hit, (c) is coachable and willing to work, and (d) wants to actually get on the field before he's a junior or senior. Email or send video to the Kentucky athletic director (I think it's mbarn@uky.edu) :)

Tider27
09-24-2007, 02:58 AM
Boy is that ever not a problem...

BAMAPERRY
09-24-2007, 05:52 AM
17/18 yr. old HS superstars do NOT see themselves sitting on the bench or getting beat out of playing time, regardless if it's a 5th year College Senior. If they WANT to play for a particular school, they'll stick it out. If they went to a school because they knew they would get exposure to help attain their ultimate goal, the NFL, then they're faced with playing behind another guy for three years, they may not.

sheluvsbama
09-24-2007, 04:17 PM
We will be only too happy to accommodate some of these transfers. If Florida wants to send them our way, we will dress them in Crimson! :laugh:

DanielW4444
09-24-2007, 04:39 PM
I wish UGA could land one of these big ass recruiting classes where we get like 3 DL 3 LB 3 DB the top QB, the top WR, 4 of the top 5 OL...ect

GatorNation
09-24-2007, 07:19 PM
A problem I see Florida having is mass transfers. There are simply too many stars sitting on the bench that would see the field elsewhere. For example Deonte Thompson. The kid runs a 4.28 and hasn't seen the field a lick all season. He'd either be starting or at least seeing the field anywhere else.

Major Wright should be starting.

Jeremy Finch is simply a beast, he needs to see the field a bit more.

John Brown and Torrey Davis, two beast on the D-Line have seen the filed very little if at all. Same with the 6-7 260 pound D-end Carlos Dunlap.

And I may sound like a broken record saying this, but the underrated steal we got in Chris Rainey also needs to play.

Don't be surprised if you don't see Florida in the top recruiting classes this year. Kids simply won't commit because they know they won't play. Especially the running backs.

One at a time...

Meyer doesn't want to burn a redshirt on Thompson. He almost played him the other day because of Nelson, but he's fine. The transfer rumors were exactly that....

Wright will probably be starting, and he has started already. He's better than Jackson and the coaches know it.

Finch is injured.

John Brown isn't in shape yet; he just got cleared by the NCAA. Davis is young, but he's been on the field. DT is probably the toughest position to contribute as a true freshman. Dunlap already blocked a punt, and he's in the rotation.

Rainey is too small to be an every-down back. He can't pick up the blitz. He also has a tendency to put the ball on the ground and make silly mistakes.

We'll be fine. Meyer plays young guys all the time. If you want to contribute early and get on the field, Florida is a great place to play. You don't wait for 2-3 years like USCW and some other programs.