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DanielW4444
09-22-2007, 10:18 PM
Gundy Reacts To Column - Video - KOCO Oklahoma City (http://www.koco.com/video/14182021/index.html)

DanielW4444
09-22-2007, 10:44 PM
The article that led to this:

NewsOK: Reid is still the most talented signal-caller, but attitude is reason for change (http://newsok.com/article/3131543/1190474803)

C_hris
09-22-2007, 10:51 PM
My second favorite coach in Football now. Man that guy is awsome.

SoonerManiac
09-23-2007, 09:22 PM
That chick deserves it. I don't know anyone that likes her.

Yazzer
09-24-2007, 08:44 AM
I am so sick of split tailed journalists who think they understand the game!!!

KillerNut
09-24-2007, 11:46 AM
Wonder if that guy is related to Bobby Knight? That was pretty awesome of him to stand up for his players and put the media in their place.

the Paradox
09-24-2007, 01:01 PM
Gundy Reacts To Column - Video - KOCO Oklahoma City (http://www.koco.com/video/14182021/index.html)

That was awesome!


RTR

SeanVol
09-24-2007, 11:02 PM
Great Job by Gundy!!!!!!!

Williams-Brice
09-24-2007, 11:17 PM
I love Gundy. I'd want my son to play for someone like that.

OmahaBound
09-24-2007, 11:55 PM
I love the fact that 99% of fan responses I've seen talk about how wonderful this guy is and 99% of media responses talk about the horror/disrespect of such a tirade. I mentioned that to a friend of mine who responded, "When did the consumers of the media lose control of the media??" I wish I knew the answer to that question.

One things for sure. Okie State just added a lot more fans, and I wish nothing but the best for them.

SoonerManiac
09-25-2007, 07:17 AM
OU's student newspaper weighs in on the topic...

The HUB - Articles (http://hub.ou.edu/articles/article.php?item_id=593115054&section_id=57469591)


OKLAHOMA CITY – Jenni Carlson stood near her car Sunday night, crying, using her cell phone, eating some chocolate cake.

It would’ve been a normal post-writing activity for the Professional Sports Journalist, had it not been for one thing.

Her mother was feeding her cake.

Which brings us to s****y journalism in Oklahoma.

Don’t see the connection?

Let me explain. The Oklahoman’s owners and editors have gone full-speed ahead with “The Tom Bomb,” opting to let freshman writer Tom Edwards sit at the editor’s desk in the office a week ago, and then continuing to let him sit there this week, even after an embarrassing headline-bust where Edwards confused Iranians with Jews.

Weren’t we being told just last week that Carlson was still “the guy” (but most likely “the woman”?) But all the weight with which The Oklahoman editors were backing Carlson has totally shifted to Edwards.

The change seems sudden.

Thing is, it may not be as abrupt as it looks. If you believe the rumors and the rumblings, Carlson has been pushing owners and editors that way for quite some time.

Tile up the back stories told on the sly over the past few years, and you see a pattern of horrifically written sports articles and bad attitude.

“She drank the entire pot of coffee, then didn’t make another,” said one co-worker. “And she has a specific coffee mug for each day of the week. Are you kidding me?”

Other employees also went on the attack.

“Tell me where my burger went that was in the fridge?” said an anonymous writer. “I’ll tell you where, into Carlson’s stupid face, that’s where. Can she even read? My name was clearly written on the Styrofoam box.”

Word is that Carlson has considered transferring to other papers a couple of times, the first as early as 2005. Carlson, then a less terrible writer, was facing competition from a returning sports writer who was actually good at his job, and, apparently, Carlson considered leaving The Oklahoman just because she had to make an effort with writing.

Carlson’s nerves have also been an issue. Earlier this year, she told a fellow writer about her emotions while writing articles.

“I get sweaty palms. I get the butterflies in my stomach. I get really gassy and bloated,” she told her bosses and the office physician. “I’ve been writing for nearly 20 years, and I can honestly say every article I’ve written, I’ve been really gassy and farty and hungry. It’s not so much that I am nervous about writing; I just get to a point where I can’t control my bowels. Most articles I’ve written have been from a toilet.”

A lot of writers get nervous, some even start over when they’re done. How you handle your nerves is important, though, and Carlson hasn’t always managed them well (as in lots of skid marks.) She has chosen some extremely poor sports topics, putting the paper in some holes. Some, they dug out of, with Carlson never wielding the biggest shovel, and some, they couldn’t.

Then, there have been the extremely terrible topics. No doubt some of Carlson’s ailments have been severe, including a lack of knowledge on how to write something well, or the her lack of general gumption. But, she keeps producing content, hoping to get better, which is cute at most.

Even though the editor of The Oklahoman said last week that Edwards got the big desk because he had a better week of articles, insiders say that the editors decided to move Carlson back early in the week. The bottom line: The switch is less about Edwards’ OK week and more about Carlson’s poor excuse for journalism.

“The editors made a decision,” Carlson said. “I just have to go with it, work on my basic English and get back in that desk.”

There’s something to be said for not being malcontent, but you can almost see Carlson shrugging her shoulders, as she says those words. Does she have the fire in her belly?

Or does she literally want to go to the pound, adopt a dog, train it to piss on typing paper and turn it in as news?

Or perhaps she’s just likes to be fed cake.

gatorunvrsty
09-25-2007, 07:34 AM
I love the fact that 99% of fan responses I've seen talk about how wonderful this guy is and 99% of media responses talk about the horror/disrespect of such a tirade. I mentioned that to a friend of mine who responded, "When did the consumers of the media lose control of the media??" I wish I knew the answer to that question.

One things for sure. Okie State just added a lot more fans, and I wish nothing but the best for them.

I agree with you. I was watching ESPN yesterday, and all those guys were acting like the fans should be outraged at such treatment of the media; and that OSU's president was irresponsible for not taking any action against the coach, who, by the way, said was not even considering doing anything to the coach, and that he's gotten nothing but praise and support in letters and e-mail for Gundy.

It shows how out of touch the media really is with average people, and that they really don't realize how fed up we are with their meddling and manipulation of facts to stir up interest and boost viewership, readership, and sales. I guess they've been under the misperception that we're all idiots and simply starved for more National Enquirer type revelations. They don't get it... they think they're popular because we watch and read; when we really don't have any other choice. The lousy ones stay employed because their employers believe they've stirred up enough controversy to keep people coming back for more; when, in fact, we, the consumer, have no alternative because all the outlets do it. I know that I, personally, am sick of that kind of BS, but where are you going to go that's different for a fresh and honest outlook? :brick: Thank God somebody bashed them in our stead.:thumpsup:

BamaFanNKy
09-25-2007, 08:03 AM
I don't buy the journalist are offended. That clapping after he was done was other beat writers. Beat writers see a hack job and get pissed as well.

OmahaBound
09-25-2007, 08:05 AM
OU's student newspaper weighs in on the topic...

The HUB - Articles (http://hub.ou.edu/articles/article.php?item_id=593115054&section_id=57469591)


OKLAHOMA CITY – Jenni Carlson stood near her car Sunday night, crying, using her cell phone, eating some chocolate cake.

It would’ve been a normal post-writing activity for the Professional Sports Journalist, had it not been for one thing.

Her mother was feeding her cake....

That was outstanding. I'm glad to see the Sooner faithful have been able to ignore the rivalry for a moment to realize this is more important.

Bburton86
09-26-2007, 08:34 PM
Mike Gundy Coors Light commercial (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1126119384?bclid=1125972053&bctid=1200296594)

The Ramp
09-26-2007, 08:37 PM
I don't buy the journalist are offended. That clapping after he was done was other beat writers. Beat writers see a hack job and get pissed as well.

i disagree...i think the writers were clapping because they now have something to write about...coach meltdowns are awesome:laugh:

C_hris
09-26-2007, 09:07 PM
i disagree...i think the writers were clapping because they now have something to write about...coach meltdowns are awesome:laugh:


I dont think that was a melt down. I just think there was alot of emotion.

The Ramp
09-26-2007, 09:13 PM
I dont think that was a melt down. I just think there was alot of emotion.

come on....


"Pick on me! I'm a man! I'm 40!"

that's a classic meltdown:laugh:

that's up there with "Playoffs", "If you wanna crown the bears, then crown them" and "you play to win the game"

OmahaBound
09-27-2007, 10:04 AM
This is the first article I've seen on the issue that admits the vast majority of fans are in support of Gundy on this one. Overall a pretty good article (though still clearly on Carlsen's side if he had to choose one).

ESPN - Wojciechowski: A spat with no winner - Columnist (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3038029&sportCat=ncf&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1)

usafbamafan
09-27-2007, 11:11 AM
Gundy is my new hero:thumpsup:

I think it is hilarious that this fat lazy bitch is basically calling a college athlete a wuss. Has she ever competed in a sport at the college level? I think not.

http://www.thelostogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jenni-carlson.gif

It also drives me crazy that the rest of the media has her back. This is exactly why I hate the media. Just admit you were wrong and shut the hell up.

D^3
09-27-2007, 12:20 PM
Yeah it's some pretty serious BS that the media is sticking up for her, but it's because she's one of their own. That said, I would think they would be eager to separate themselves from lousy journalism, especially when the entire nation is supporting Coach Gundy. Yesterday ol' Skip Bayless was talking to Mike Golic on the Hot Seat and was basically accusing Gundy of being unfair because he targeted her when he was on the bully pulpit and going after her because "she is a she." What a load of crap. Golic made a good point though, he said "Why not? The last time I checked, Jenni Carlson's article was public. Everyone says 'he should have taken it in private', WHY? Her article was public, he has the right to question it in public."

GoVols1998
09-27-2007, 12:41 PM
I'm glad he stood up to her. Shes desereved it. People forget sometimes these are just kids and it's just a game. They are giving everything they got and people running there mouth about them is wrong.

OmahaBound
09-27-2007, 04:19 PM
An even better article on the matter... ESPN - Fowler: Gundy tirade sparks great debate - College Football (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=fowler_chris&id=3038404&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos2)

SoonerManiac
09-27-2007, 04:37 PM
I don't buy the journalist are offended. That clapping after he was done was other beat writers. Beat writers see a hack job and get pissed as well.
That was not the journalists. That was yet again crappy reporting, this time by ABC. They didn't do their homework because that was Reid's & Gundy's family that had slipped into the back.
That was outstanding. I'm glad to see the Sooner faithful have been able to ignore the rivalry for a moment to realize this is more important.They were until the emotion wore off. Now its back to 50/50 with the OU faithful. Those that understand that it's okay to approve of something even if it is your rival, and those who can't see past the color orange.

I am glad I come to this website. Because it lets me see how people who have very little connection to a Big XII team will view things.