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LSUisLIFE611
09-22-2007, 09:59 PM
3-1?
hm
im impressed so far. keep it up.
Kevhugh
09-22-2007, 10:59 PM
I'll be more impressed if they drop to 3-2....
The Ramp
09-22-2007, 11:16 PM
i told yall the dogs will make a bowl
i told yall the dogs will make a bowl
Doubt it. I can see 5 wins, 6 would be a stretch.
NiKka
09-23-2007, 02:29 AM
Tulane & Gardner-Webb
but 3-1 is better than 1-3 :sad:
just we wish we scheduled more cupcakes earlier to get some rhythm
i'm just jealous though don't mind me
I see 5 wins
same as UM
OffThePorch
09-23-2007, 08:25 AM
MSU still has UAB, UT, BAMA & Ole Miss at home, all games that can be won.
TigersFanTaylor
09-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Tulane & Gardner-Webb
but 3-1 is better than 1-3 :sad:
just we wish we scheduled more cupcakes earlier to get some rhythm
i'm just jealous though don't mind me
I see 5 wins
same as UM
Memphis was more of a cupcake game than Tulane was for Mississippi State.
I can see State winning 5 or 6, but I can only see Ole Miss winning 3 all season, with wins against L-Tech, and Northwestern State. I'm not going to get hyped up with the Florida game, because Ole Miss always plays Florida good in Oxford.
BAMAPERRY
09-23-2007, 09:20 AM
Tulane & Gardner-Webb
but 3-1 is better than 1-3 :sad:
just we wish we scheduled more cupcakes earlier to get some rhythm
i'm just jealous though don't mind meI see 5 wins
same as UM
you can only play auburn once a year! :laugh:
zorak34
09-23-2007, 10:15 AM
So are we saying the tigers didn't lose to a not so bad Miss St Bulldog team????
SECorBust
09-23-2007, 10:36 AM
After a long time Miss State and Croom are catching a few breaks, and capitalizing on their good defense. I see this MSU team turning some heads this year, and beating some quality teams. If we measure State by Auburn and we measure Auburn by South Florida and Kansas State, the Dawgs and Auburn look much better this week than 2 weeks ago.
NiKka
09-23-2007, 01:59 PM
Memphis was more of a cupcake game than Tulane was for Mississippi State.
I can see State winning 5 or 6, but I can only see Ole Miss winning 3 all season, with wins against L-Tech, and Northwestern State. I'm not going to get hyped up with the Florida game, because Ole Miss always plays Florida good in Oxford.
kid memphis would merk tulane
and that's 1
L-Tech isn't too bad i'm afraid they'll upset
sure you don't have to get hyped about anything
you don't see that we can beat georgia auburn bama or m-state?
when we played everyone of them hard last year beat m-state, should of a beat uga but that horrible call prevented it, bama in OT..
you're ignorant
PharmDawg87
09-23-2007, 02:48 PM
It hasn't really hit me yet. State may not have played the best teams in the country, but 3-1 is 3-1. I don't know how to express my happiness, although this happiness is very tempered. I don't want to get too hopeful about this season because Miss St has this knack for finding a way to lose games they shouldn't.
TigersFanTaylor
09-23-2007, 03:22 PM
kid memphis would merk tulane
and that's 1
L-Tech isn't too bad i'm afraid they'll upset
sure you don't have to get hyped about anything
you don't see that we can beat georgia auburn bama or m-state?
when we played everyone of them hard last year beat m-state, should of a beat uga but that horrible call prevented it, bama in OT..
you're ignorant
First off, Memphis wouldn't merk Tulane. Both teams are head and head in the C-USA. Don't try to talk to me like I don't know anything about Memphis, because I've lived in Memphis my whole life, and they aren't that good, just like Tulane.
Sure, you can beat UGA, Auburn, Bama, and Mississippi St, but I don't think you will. That's my prediction, and having a prediction doesn't make me ignorant. You can talk about how you ALMOST beat teams last year all you want. But, the fact is, you lost a lot of defense from last year's team, including Ole Miss' heart and soul Patrick Willis, followed by Johnson and McBride. I find it funny you'll sit there and call L-Tech a potential upset, while saying you have a good shot of beating UGA and Bama.
NiKka
09-23-2007, 03:30 PM
First off, Memphis wouldn't merk Tulane. Both teams are head and head in the C-USA. Don't try to talk to me like I don't know anything about Memphis, because I've lived in Memphis my whole life, and they aren't that good, just like Tulane.
Sure, you can beat UGA, Auburn, Bama, and Mississippi St, but I don't think you will. That's my prediction, and having a prediction doesn't make me ignorant. You can talk about how you ALMOST beat teams last year all you want. But, the fact is, you lost a lot of defense from last year's team, including Ole Miss' heart and soul Patrick Willis, followed by Johnson and McBride.
yea we lost the best linebacker in Ole Miss history and quite possibly SEC history
blah blah
Tider27
09-23-2007, 03:36 PM
MSU still has UAB, UT, & Ole Miss at home, all games that can be won.
Fixed that for ya. :thumpsup:
PharmDawg87
09-23-2007, 03:45 PM
MSU still has UAB, UT, BAMA& Ole Miss at home, all games that can be won.
Fixed again
Football - Schedule - Mississippi State University Bulldogs Athletics Official Web Site - MStateAthletics.com (http://www.mstateathletics.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=16800&KEY=&SPID=10997&SPSID=90890)
You must not have been in Tuscaloosa last year.
OffThePorch
09-23-2007, 04:36 PM
Fixed that for ya. :thumpsup:
imo we have a good chance at beating Bama again this season...
AceLeroy
09-23-2007, 04:38 PM
i told yall the dogs will make a bowl
Our (MSU) Bulldogs have improved over last year for sure but I am not making any bowl plans just yet. Of the 8 remaining games on the MSU schedule , they will likely be the underdog in at least 6 of them.
Bright spot.......We may have found a QB in Riddell. He was 8 for 12 and hit his first 7 throws.
TigersFanTaylor
09-23-2007, 04:39 PM
imo we have a good chance at beating Bama again this season...
Agreed. I think Bama is going to win, but to say the Bulldogs don't have a shot to win at home is underrating them. It's the SEC where anything can happen, and the Dawgs have already upset one Alabama team.
Rebel Chuck
09-23-2007, 04:44 PM
Tulane & Gardner-Webb
but 3-1 is better than 1-3 :sad:
just we wish we scheduled more cupcakes earlier to get some rhythm i'm just jealous though don't mind me
I see 5 wins
same as UM
Don't worry we've signed home and home contracts with Texas, Clemson, and Georgia Tech.:brick: That is so stupid. When you play in the SEC your OCC games better be cupcakes or you're shooting yourself in the foot. I am very upset about us trying to up the schedule strength
Our game with y'all scares the crap out of me. Y'all have a good team this year.
Nick Hull
09-23-2007, 07:25 PM
I'm a little down after the Gardner Webb game. I think we will fall short of a bowl, but win at least one more game, maybe 2. I'd predict us at 5 now. But it still looks like 6 wins will be out of reach. It COULD happen...but I don't think it will.
bad42
09-23-2007, 07:48 PM
If we can keep from turning the ball over so much we have a descent shot at six wins.
I have not had a chance to watch too much of the rest of the conference, but we have a running game that is pretty good, we have some big wide receivers, and we have a pretty good defense. If we can get one of these clowns that call themselves qbs to step up and make some plays, we will go to a bowl game. However, the last part is the part that is tough.
NiKka
09-23-2007, 08:13 PM
i'd say 5 but wouldn't be suprised if they won 6
Riddell looks like he should be the started he has a good arm
bad42
09-23-2007, 08:16 PM
State should take a cue from Arkansas and direct snap to Dixon and Ducre every time. I bet one of them can throw as good as our other "QBs" and if they can't they can damn sure run better.
PharmDawg87
09-23-2007, 08:49 PM
Riddell is the best choice we have, but Croom has his mind set on Wes Carroll. I don't know what the deal is, but if we want to get to six wins it will be with Josh Riddell under center. But what I don't understand is how after four years we still don't have any semblance of an offense. I guess it all comes back to the QB, but it seems like you would see more improvement on the O after four years.
NiKka
09-23-2007, 09:16 PM
Riddell is the best choice we have, but Croom has his mind set on Wes Carroll. I don't know what the deal is, but if we want to get to six wins it will be with Josh Riddell under center. But what I don't understand is how after four years we still don't have any semblance of an offense. I guess it all comes back to the QB, but it seems like you would see more improvement on the O after four years.
It does start with the QB
we can FINALLY move the ball and put up more than 13 points
Tider27
09-23-2007, 09:22 PM
So just because you won last season, you have a shot this season? Yes you have a better team this year, but we are already 5x better than last season.
I don't even need to mention how much the intangibles have increased.
I will say MSU has about a 4% chance of a upset and that is being nice. :wink:
TigersFanTaylor
09-23-2007, 09:28 PM
I will say MSU has about a 4% chance of a upset and that is being nice. :wink:
That's also being cocky. State is improved this year, just as Bama, like you mentioned, so to say their chances aren't good is the wrong way to go. I know Bama is a better coached team than last year, but Saban proved lastnight he can be outcoached. If the Tide are like their fans and think they can just march into the Bulldogs home and run the table on them, they are in for a long game.
Poppycock
09-23-2007, 09:41 PM
"Don't worry we've signed home and home contracts with Texas, Clemson, and Georgia Tech."
Rebel Chuck,
The SEC wasn't hard enough for Ole Miss? I hope those aren't all in the same year.
carwwest
09-23-2007, 10:02 PM
i watched bits and pieces of the GW game and i think we were very conservative which is good i dont like that fact that we gave up 15 pts to a div 1-AA team but im sure we didnt have all of our starters in there...at least i hope not.....but im somewhat excited but more hoping that our competitiveness with decent teams continue....we played LSU great in the first half considering our QB played for the other team and beat an auburn team without us throwing the ball hardly at all....if riddell can play mistake free ball and our running game and defense continue to play hard and productive then 5 or 6 wins but none of them will be easy at all.....nick, i knew croom liked carroll but riddell played most of the game...did carroll get hurt or riddell just impress??
Cocky38
09-23-2007, 10:05 PM
I know alot of 2-2 teams that would like to be 3-1 right now.:glare:
Nick Hull
09-25-2007, 01:15 AM
Even though Carroll started, I think Riddell might have played more against GWU. Croom pulled him as soon as he threw a pick though. At this point, I think Riddell is our best bet at QB. Carroll has the potential to be a good QB in the future, but he isn't quite ready yet. He has a good head on his shoulders and is quick on his feet. This year and next should probably be a mix of Riddell and Henig, but after that Carroll will likely take over and should be able to do a good job. That's if Croom decides not to recruit QBs again.
Rebel Chuck
09-25-2007, 01:52 AM
I know alot of 2-2 teams that would like to be 3-1 right now.:glare:
I know a 1-3 team that would love to be 3-1
carwwest
09-25-2007, 01:59 AM
i think, especially if croom stays, there has to be a team built around dixon and ducre...they are both soph.....and i honestly think when all is said and done, if croom is here next year, we might see a true soph QB start over a senior...because honestly henig has done less than impress his entire career and carroll is a little bigger (even though henig is listed 6'1 YEAH RIGHT) and faster....but that is way too far off.....i also think riddell is our best bet right now and i hope he turns out to be a very sweet surprise for our offense.....go dawgs!!
Tider27
09-25-2007, 03:51 AM
That's also being cocky. State is improved this year, just as Bama, like you mentioned, so to say their chances aren't good is the wrong way to go. I know Bama is a better coached team than last year, but Saban proved lastnight he can be outcoached. If the Tide are like their fans and think they can just march into the Bulldogs home and run the table on them, they are in for a long game.
Not cocky what so ever. It's confidence...and you can call it whatever you like. :thumbsdow
I'm not the type to put down another team, I said myself that they are a better team. Let's not give them a shot just because they beat Auburn this season...
MSUBULLY
09-25-2007, 08:27 AM
Not cocky what so ever. It's confidence...and you can call it whatever you like. :thumbsdow
I'm not the type to put down another team, I said myself that they are a better team. Let's not give them a shot just because they beat Auburn this season...
No, we have a shot because we beat your same team last year and if you'll go back and look at the last 20 or 30 games we've played you'll see that the Bama/MSU matchup is always a tightly contested ball game. Bama usually wins I'll give you that but it is always a tough ball game. If MSU can keep their confidence up that long and keep playing the type ball they're playing now, I see no reason why MSU doesn't have a very good shot at winning this ballgame.
carwwest
09-25-2007, 11:16 AM
i do think our team has a lot more confidence than in the past....and our defense is good so i think it will be interesting for the rest of the season...kind of like the end of our season last year but hopefully we'll be able to pull out some more close ones....im not going to say state is going to beat alabama but i think it will be a good game....alabama has made a lot of improvements but then again so has state so we'll see.....
OffThePorch
09-25-2007, 12:48 PM
i think Carroll starts with Riddell playing if needed off the bench. just hope one of them breaks out and earns the starting position.
bad42
09-25-2007, 02:40 PM
I think if we are going to have any success in the passing game at all over the next two or three games one of our qb's, I hope riddell, is going to have to be named starter. I have never liked the idea of playing two qbs, especially when it is hard to tell a difference between them. I think riddell whould start and play the whole game unless he blows his opportunity.
carwwest
09-26-2007, 12:29 PM
im not a huge fan of the 2 QB system either, unless you have a good pocket passer and a good scrambler, and even then i dont like alternating drives....but from what ive seen i think riddell looks a little more relaxed and a little more game experience just because of juco...but i agree one needs to start and play until he loses the job....there is no point in playing them both if they are that similar....one needs to play the whole game so he can develop confidence and consistency....i think this weekend is going to be a good game....go dawgs!!!
GeauxTo
09-26-2007, 12:43 PM
Geaux Bulldogs!
I think Mississippi State has an excellent chance of beating the whiny Gamecocks on Saturday. The State running game might chew them up without Jasper on defense for the Cocks.
Here's a good read from MSNBC...
Mississippi St.-South Carolina Preview - Wire Services - College Football - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20975013/)
crawfish
09-26-2007, 01:13 PM
The Bulldogs are certainly looking good right now and have set themselves up to be in position to pull off the upset on Saturday against the reeling gamecocks of South Carolina. The gamecocks should win the game (on paper), but that's what we thought when the Barners lined up against them. This Bulldog defense and running game may just prove to be more than the gamecocks can handle.
Just looking ahead: If the dawgs can pull off the upset, they would move to a surprising 4-1 overall and 2-1 in conference play. I would say ole Croom is going to be able to keep his job a little bit longer.
MSUBULLY
09-26-2007, 02:20 PM
Geaux Bulldogs!
I think Mississippi State has an excellent chance of beating the whiny Gamecocks on Saturday. The State running game might chew them up without Jasper on defense for the Cocks.
Here's a good read from MSNBC...
Mississippi St.-South Carolina Preview - Wire Services - College Football - MSNBC.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20975013/)
Thanks for the vote of confidence Geaux, I hope you just didn't jinx us though. Thanks for posting the nice read on the game.
tecmsu06
09-26-2007, 02:39 PM
I'm getting really excited about the game on Saturday. I think Croom finally has HIS team. He is really about getting a team to work together and play with confidence. I think our team has the confidence, and just enough ability to win twice as many games this season as we did the last three. It starts with our defense. Even though we lost some key spots on the line last year, guys like Titus Brown have been impressive, and our linebackers our playing really aggressive. Next, our offensive line has to play together, which is something they should do, considering they are one of the most experienced starting O-Lines in the SEC. If we can play very tough defense, and run the ball, we should expect to have a good chance. Last season, we had a solid defense, but our offense just couldn't come on and give us the small push we needed to win those games that we lost by 3 points.
Tider27
09-27-2007, 03:55 AM
No, we have a shot because we beat your same team last year and if you'll go back and look at the last 20 or 30 games we've played you'll see that the Bama/MSU matchup is always a tightly contested ball game. Bama usually wins I'll give you that but it is always a tough ball game. If MSU can keep their confidence up that long and keep playing the type ball they're playing now, I see no reason why MSU doesn't have a very good shot at winning this ballgame.
This is a new year my friend. Just because your team beat us last season, don't think it will be the same. We were a completly different team last season. We are night and day when it comes to coaching, attitude, and the overall program. That says a lot only being 4 games into the season, but any Bama fan will agree with me with this.
I have no problem with MSU and thier fans. Two of my good friends go to school there and I will more then likely be in the student section Nov 10th. Even those two agree that MSU will not beat the Tide, but we all agree that they have a shot. Having a shot and actually winning are however two different things. :wink:
Rebel Chuck
09-27-2007, 04:10 AM
This is a new year my friend. Just because your team beat us last season, don't think it will be the same. We were a completly different team last season. We are night and day when it comes to coaching, attitude, and the overall program. That says a lot only being 4 games into the season, but any Bama fan will agree with me with this.
I have no problem with MSU and thier fans. Two of my good friends go to school there and I will more then likely be in the student section Nov 10th. Even those two agree that MSU will not beat the Tide, but we all agree that they have a shot. Having a shot and actually winning are however two different things. :wink: Tell me about it:brick:
GamecockDieHard
09-27-2007, 06:35 AM
MSU has the right offense to beat us. We can't stop the run. Our passing defense is all we've got and MSU doesn't pass much anyway. Also, MSU has good run defense and that's the only strength we've had, (except against LSU). We had a tough time with y'all last year and, with 2 of our starters gone on defense (Pepper on the DL, and Jasper at LB), I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a W for MSU this weekend. This week will give a good idea what kind of team MSU is.
MSUBULLY
09-27-2007, 08:04 AM
MSU has the right offense to beat us. We can't stop the run. Our passing defense is all we've got and MSU doesn't pass much anyway. Also, MSU has good run defense and that's the only strength we've had, (except against LSU). We had a tough time with y'all last year and, with 2 of our starters gone on defense (Pepper on the DL, and Jasper at LB), I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a W for MSU this weekend. This week will give a good idea what kind of team MSU is.
This will be a good game diehard, but I just don't think we'll be able to pull it out in the end. All in all though a very competitive contest. I think you're analysis on the game is spot on, but I think our lack of passing will hurt us late in the game. I see it being a 3 or 4 point game in SC's favor. Let's just hope no major injuries come out of the game. MSU has been pretty lucky so far this year (with the exception of Henig). Here's to a good game and a lot of beer drinkin'.
NextYearIsHere
09-27-2007, 10:35 AM
I think it will be a good game as well. Carolina should win but MSU is coming to play and we'll have to work for this win. No clue what the final score will be because of us starting Smelly and having a banged up defence, but I dont see us winning by more than 10-14 points. This game scares me because if we come out flat, MSU is taking home the win.
Sabama
09-27-2007, 04:32 PM
Sorry...dont have time to read the whole thread....is this the early game this week? Hope so....should be a good one....damn...this is going to be another great saturday to camp out on the couch/bar in front of #? TV's!!!
GAMECOCK_FAN
09-27-2007, 04:44 PM
Sorry...dont have time to read the whole thread....is this the early game this week? Hope so....should be a good one....damn...this is going to be another great saturday to camp out on the couch/bar in front of #? TV's!!!
Yes, 12:30 Eastern (11:30 Central) on LFS.
carwwest
09-27-2007, 07:59 PM
i do think it is going to be a lot better game than some people think just because of our running game with dixon and ducre.....i think its going to be a game like the auburn MSU game where who turns the ball over more is going to lose the game.....MSU has forced 10 turnovers this year and USC has forced 11 so i guess we'll just wait and see....
Nick Hull
09-27-2007, 11:49 PM
I'm hoping it'll be a good game. It should be, but I don't want to get that optimistic. USC will get the win, but I'll be very happy if we put in a good showing.
Rebel Chuck
09-28-2007, 01:53 AM
I hope y'all get the snot knocked out of you, but that's just me. I'm mad b/c y'all are 3-1
MSUBULLY
09-28-2007, 08:08 AM
Don't worry about us Chuck, I'd be more worried about Georgia tossing ya'll around like rag dolls if I were you.
Dr. Pepper
09-28-2007, 01:43 PM
Smelley played well against LSU. He has had all week knowing that he would start on Saturday. I say this is the week Carolina starts clicking on offense. Sorry guys, you will be calling for Crooms head on Sunday.
C_hris
09-28-2007, 03:09 PM
Im cheerin for ya West Dawgs
bad42
09-28-2007, 04:14 PM
Dr, our qbs have had three weeks to prepare. Not to mention our defense is full strength along with or running game. I think SC is 11th in run defense in the league.
coorect me if i'm wrong.
Nick Hull
09-28-2007, 06:41 PM
Smelley played well against LSU. He has had all week knowing that he would start on Saturday. I say this is the week Carolina starts clicking on offense. Sorry guys, you will be calling for Crooms head on Sunday.
Why would we be calling for Croom's head on Sunday if we lose? That doesn't make sense. We are playing the No. 16 team in the nation at THEIR place, and we still think we have a shot. Even if we lose, we'll still be 3-2. Sorry, losing to SC isn't going to have anyone calling for Croom's head that wasn't already doing so long before this game was a blip on the radar.
If we win, that will be incredible. If we lose, no big deal.
OffThePorch
09-28-2007, 07:00 PM
Why would we be calling for Croom's head on Sunday if we lose? That doesn't make sense. We are playing the No. 16 team in the nation at THEIR place, and we still think we have a shot. Even if we lose, we'll still be 3-2. Sorry, losing to SC isn't going to have anyone calling for Croom's head that wasn't already doing so long before this game was a blip on the radar.
If we win, that will be incredible. If we lose, no big deal.
i agree. we arent supposed to win. a loss would mean we come home 3-2 with 2 winnable home games next up. GO DOGS!
sheluvsbama
09-28-2007, 07:02 PM
I am picking MSU over USC in a 3 point fright-fest! I think USC may still be suffering from the distractions of last week. It was a difficult game. MSU is feeling confident.
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