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GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 11:25 AM
5 minutes from KO.....GO GATORS!!!!!

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 11:38 AM
Not another year of these horrible FG attempts!:brick:

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 11:49 AM
Wake up ole miss fans...This is a ballgame!:brick:

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 11:57 AM
3-0 OM...Mullen doing the same thing he did vs UT...first 2 series, Tebow up the middle.

Better wake up Gators...these Rebs are fired up!

GO GATORS!!!!

M2J
09-22-2007, 12:00 PM
Ole Miss is really playing some defense.

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 12:00 PM
Real nice....OM player spears Tebow in the back well after he gets rid of the ball...and no call.

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 12:01 PM
Real nice....OM player spears Tebow in the back well after he gets rid of the ball...and no call.

There are plenty of penalties on us. We were the most penalized team last year...we will be the most penalized team this year

M2J
09-22-2007, 12:01 PM
It'll end up a blow out though.

aufan
09-22-2007, 12:07 PM
Ole Miss has had some opportunities---need to make most of---wont get too many

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 12:07 PM
It'll end up a blow out though.

Not unless UF can move the chains. If ole Miss's defense stays rested then this will be a close game and potential upset.
I was pleased with how Florida was moving the ball at the end of the first half though. I think Tebow completed 4 passes on that drive. We need more of that

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 12:08 PM
There are plenty of penalties on us. We were the most penalized team last year...we will be the most penalized team this year

Yea...the Gators seem to be the ones getting the penalties right now...

End of 1st, OM with a 3-0 lead...and playing inspired defense.

GO GATORS!!!!

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 12:09 PM
Touchdown pass from Tebow to Harvin.
Harvin's 3rd TD catch this season and Tebow's 9th TD pass this year.
UF 7 Ole Miss 3

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 12:11 PM
7-3 Gators!!!

OM is playing on adrenaline right now...that won't last.

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 12:14 PM
These ticky-tack penalties are BS...OM OL tackles a Gator DL right in front of the ref and he calls Joiner for a facemask?

GamecockDieHard
09-22-2007, 12:15 PM
Florida won't trail again in this game.

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:18 PM
Real nice....OM player spears Tebow in the back well after he gets rid of the ball...and no call.

By some act of GOD if we win this game ( which I doubt ), we will never hear the end of this

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 12:22 PM
By some act of GOD if we win this game ( which I doubt ), we will never hear the end of this

So you agree?:D

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:32 PM
So you agree?:D

Yeah I hate to say it but that was a late hit. You guys know that was not a game changing play anyways, so why worry about it. You know that the gators are gonna blow us out anyway, my REBELS are just giving yall a hard time in the first half, wait to the second half though, we can't play in the second half, unless I am wrong today.

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 12:35 PM
Yeah I hate to say it but that was a late hit. You guys know that was not a game changing play anyways, so why worry about it. You know that the gators are gonna blow us out anyway, my REBELS are just giving yall a hard time in the first half, wait to the second half though, we can't play in the second half, unless I am wrong today.

No it wasn't a game changing play...it coulda been...coulda took Tebow out for the year. OM players seem to be talkin' a lot...

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 12:35 PM
I would really like to see Tebow throw the ball out of bounds more often instead on running out of bounds where he is going to take a hit anyways.

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:39 PM
No it wasn't a game changing play...it coulda been...coulda took Tebow out for the year. OM players seem to be talkin' a lot...

TALKING A LOT, about what?

BAMAPERRY
09-22-2007, 12:40 PM
this game isn't on in the Panhandle, I guess the storm caused them some problems. Watching it live on the internet, tho.

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:41 PM
this game isn't on in the Panhandle, I guess the storm caused them some problems. Watching it live on the internet, tho.

Must be nice that cost to much

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:42 PM
What did i say, TOUCHDOWN TEBOW, Florida is just TOOOOOO MUCH

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:43 PM
Now we gotta run one back real quick, to turn this around, if not I am going fishing

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 12:44 PM
TALKING A LOT, about what?

A LOT OF TRASH...but that's OK.;)

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:45 PM
Game Over!!!!!!!

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 12:45 PM
this game isn't on in the Panhandle, I guess the storm caused them some problems. Watching it live on the internet, tho.


Where do you live? I'm picking it up on channel 4 outta Dothan, AL.

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:45 PM
A LOT OF TRASH...but that's OK.;)

Check yourself, OM fans may be but not Kinfolk

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:52 PM
We shoulda picked that off

BAMAPERRY
09-22-2007, 12:52 PM
Ch. 44 out of Mobile/Pensacola isn't showing it.

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:52 PM
Tebow is making some dumb plays

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:53 PM
Florida should be up by 35 points

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 12:55 PM
Penalty flags have kept Ole Miss in this game. Period

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 12:57 PM
2 forced fumbles today by Major Wright. Unfortunately both have gone out of bounds:brick:

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 12:59 PM
Penalty flags have kept Ole Miss in this game. Period

Thats football, if you play by the rules, you won't get penalties

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 01:00 PM
Thats football, if you play by the rules, you won't get penalties

Ohhhh ok. Thanks for that educational and well thought out post:thumpsup:

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 01:01 PM
offense wins games, defense wins championships, uh maybe if we could score a td we might make it a game

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 01:02 PM
Ohhhh ok. Thanks for that educational and well thought out post:thumpsup:

sure thing pal, anytime

Gator2753
09-22-2007, 01:03 PM
The FACT of the matter is that UF has twice the penalty yards than Ole Miss. That is a fact. Im not saying they are BS calls.
We are shooting ourselves in the foot and are letting ole miss keep the score respectable.

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 01:05 PM
The FACT of the matter is that UF has twice the penalty yards than Ole Miss. That is a fact. Im not saying they are BS calls.
We are shooting ourselves in the foot and are letting ole miss keep the score respectable.

your right, Thanks for that educational and well thought out post:thumpsup:

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 01:07 PM
way to go chain gang

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 01:09 PM
Check yourself, OM fans may be but not Kinfolk

I said "OM players"...

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 01:12 PM
way to go chain gang

And clock operator...Tebow downed the ball with 1 second on the clock...likely cost the Gators 3 points. Ticky-tack calls are keeping OM in this game...man, are we in Auburn?:ph34r:

gatorunvrsty
09-22-2007, 01:14 PM
Well, Ole Miss sure can't complain about not getting every possible benefit of the doubt. Hell, they even got a 15-yard personal foul call on an incidental facemask on that trick play. Then, officials said it took Tebow 2 seconds to throw the ball in the ground at the end of the half.:wacko: I sure would like to see UF stop playing not to lose, and start playing to win. I don't know if they accidentally left Mullen back in Gainesville, or what, but they need to start chucking the damn ball. Tebow has looked like he's trying to guide the ball on every pass, instead of coming out like a gunslinger, like he did vs. UT.

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 01:33 PM
the game is already over anyways

TDArkansasOhmy
09-22-2007, 02:00 PM
this is a surprise to me. I know road games in the SEC is tough, but Florida looks rusty today. And Urban isn't really doing anything about it. All I can say is WOW.
I wonder if the other big two will start off sluggish like Oklahoma and Florida did. If so, good time for an upset.

gatoraus
09-22-2007, 02:08 PM
2 Questions:

Why don't these refs throw on some ole miss jerseys?
Also, how long is it going to take before they realize major wright should be playing over kyle jackson?

lacene
09-22-2007, 02:12 PM
That was a beautiful 77-yard TD pass!

razorhead
09-22-2007, 02:14 PM
Can't believe I'm saying this...GO REBS

The Architect
09-22-2007, 02:15 PM
WOW!!! Ole Miss has played some excellent football offensively and defensively here in the last 8 minutes or so that I've gotten to watch!

lacene
09-22-2007, 02:15 PM
And clock operator...Tebow downed the ball with 1 second on the clock...likely cost the Gators 3 points. Ticky-tack calls are keeping OM in this game...man, are we in Auburn?:ph34r:

Damn people, ya'll are still winning the game! Why is it that every time Florida struggles, the same people start griping about officiating calls?

:ph34r:

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 02:24 PM
Damn people, ya'll are still winning the game! Why is it that every time Florida struggles, the same people start griping about officiating calls?

:ph34r:

Well, if the shoe fits...have you watched this game? If you have...you know what we're talking about and, as usual, are playing your Gator-hate game.

lacene
09-22-2007, 02:28 PM
Hate hate hate hate.......


I'm so bursting at the seams with hate......

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 02:30 PM
Hate hate hate hate.......


I'm so bursting at the seams with hate......

I know...it's very apparent. BTW, there Cock...the Reb even agreed on one of the calls so go watch your own game...:thumbsdow

razorhead
09-22-2007, 02:30 PM
Come on Gators. Your team is being outplayed right now. Get over it and hope you can hold on.

gatorunvrsty
09-22-2007, 02:35 PM
I'm surprised they even called the offsides penalty. It took 'em long enough. Hell, the Ole Miss fullback has dragged Harvey to the ground by his jersey on at least 3 rushing plays, and nothing.

kinfolk41684
09-22-2007, 02:44 PM
I know...it's very apparent. BTW, there Cock...the Reb even agreed on one of the calls so go watch your own game...:thumbsdow

yes ONE PLAY!!!!!

Seppeh
09-22-2007, 02:45 PM
Cmon Rebs, get a TD here.

lacene
09-22-2007, 02:50 PM
I know...it's very apparent. BTW, there Cock...the Reb even agreed on one of the calls so go watch your own game...:thumbsdow

does it not matter to you that I didn't even bash the Florida Gators? I bashed you.......


:ph34r:

Cincy Vol o5
09-22-2007, 02:56 PM
How did we lose to this team by 39.
That shows just how bad our D is...

GaryB
09-22-2007, 02:59 PM
Congratulations OLE MISS!!!!!

Awesome game by Ole Miss to make this a GREAAAAT football game!!!!!

This is why I love college football!!!!!!!

Ole Miss, my hat off to ya! You done real good. You represented our state exceptionally well!!!

Again......WOW!!!!!!

M2J
09-22-2007, 03:00 PM
How did we lose to this team by 39.
That shows just how bad our D is...

Exactly, lol.

But I think Florida's offense is better than this, its their defense that's still got questions.

With the cover 2, it forced everything underneath and slowed down the huge plays for Florida, instead more methodical long drives. Still 30pts is 30pts in the SEC

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 03:00 PM
does it not matter to you that I didn't even bash the Florida Gators? I bashed you.......


:ph34r:

You didn't bash shiat.....you're given yourself to much credit...as usual.:laugh:

Seppeh
09-22-2007, 03:02 PM
Congratulations OLE MISS!!!!!

Awesome game by Ole Miss to make this a GREAAAAT football game!!!!!

This is why I love college football!!!!!!!

Ole Miss, my hat off to ya! You done real good. You represented our state exceptionally well!!!

Again......WOW!!!!!!

Talk about false advertising. I thought the Rebs had come back to win or something after that post.

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 03:03 PM
How did we lose to this team by 39.
That shows just how bad our D is...

Florida's offensive line had a bad game...heck, there's 2-3 freshman playing. Our defensive backs didn't play well either...which we knew was the case this season with the inexperience. Still, Tebow managed to scrape out over 400 yds...that's why you lost by 39...:laugh:

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 03:08 PM
Congratulations OLE MISS!!!!!

Awesome game by Ole Miss to make this a GREAAAAT football game!!!!!

This is why I love college football!!!!!!!

Ole Miss, my hat off to ya! You done real good. You represented our state exceptionally well!!!

Again......WOW!!!!!!

Congrats to OM...you guys played a heckuva game. How can this possibly be the worst team in the SEC? I don't believe a team can "over-achieve"...so has OM been underachieving? Despite the Gators having a sub-par game...which I think OM's defense had a lot to do with, OM stood strong...looked well coached and well prepared.

Good win for the Gators...this young team needed to be put into this situation. As most of the Gators on this board thought, our young defense is likely to cost us...probably in a couple of weeks...:(

GO GATORS!!!!

lacene
09-22-2007, 03:10 PM
You didn't bash shiat.....you're given yourself to much credit...as usual.:laugh:

I'm trying to legitimatize your claim of me being a "hater".... :laugh:

Congrats on the win Florida....and great game effort by the Rebels! You had the Lizards on the ropes!! :thumpsup:

GatorHunter
09-22-2007, 03:13 PM
I'm trying to legitimatize your claim of me being a "hater".... :laugh:

Congrats on the win Florida....and great game effort by the Rebels! You had the Lizards on the ropes!! :thumpsup:

It doesn't need to be "legitimatized".....a couple of Gators make a statement...and you come in callin' them/us out. Which is par for the course when dealing with you.

gatorunvrsty
09-22-2007, 03:14 PM
Congrats to Ole Miss... they played with a helluva lot more heart than UF did. Our defense acted like they'd won the game before it'd even started. Too lackadaisical. That better be the ugliest game we play all year, or we won't beat UGA, LSU, or USC.

NiKka
09-22-2007, 03:15 PM
Congrats to OM...you guys played a heckuva game. How can this possibly be the worst team in the SEC? I don't believe a team can "over-achieve"...so has OM been underachieving? Despite the Gators having a sub-par game...which I think OM's defense had a lot to do with, OM stood strong...looked well coached and well prepared.

Good win for the Gators...this young team needed to be put into this situation. As most of the Gators on this board thought, our young defense is likely to cost us...probably in a couple of weeks...:(

GO GATORS!!!!
we're underachieving big time
especially to be one of the youngest teams in the SEC
questionable playing calling in the redzone though
2 and 4 and we don't pound the ball especially with every florida defender on the goaline 5 yards back...
could of won this ball game


tebow is good

but what game are we playing? lacross? rugby?

FiftytwoTwentyForever
09-22-2007, 09:14 PM
Reasons this game was not a blow out:

1) Good D (pass rush and secondary play) by Ole Miss
2) Bad O-Line play by UF
3) Penalties.
4) Big plays by Ole Miss
5) UF Seconday Inexperience and Jackson's mess up.
6) Poor UF WR play (not Harvin)
7) Strange play calling by Mullen


Looking at the stats for the Gators O, the numbers are not that bad. About 500 total yards. But only 30 points. Penalties killed the point total. Gators could have easily put up 50 with the yardage and performance from the O.

Tebow had a good but not GREAT passing day, but it seemed that Ole Miss took away the long ball and was playing a tight zone. Dropping 8 will limit just about any passing game that can't protect the QB for long enough to find the soft spot in the zone. The Gators were strong enough on the ground to move the ball effectively enough to put points on the board. The penalties easily took 3 potential scores away.

The Ole Miss O, kept making plays. Lots of long passes. Some that were even defended well. Others that were either inexperienced or inexcusable (Jackson) play. The UF D-Line seems to do well against the run, but does not have a big pass rush. Adams had lots of time to make plays.

UF WRs, not named Percy Harvin, played pretty poorly, save for the nice play by Murphy. They missed blocks consistently on the outside.

Mullen, Florida's OC, picked a lot of strange plays. Started the game again with a couple Tebow draws. Not sure why. The could easily script a better starting series. On top of that, the reverses and misdirection plays to the short side of the field have got to be limited. The sideline acts as another defender for a speedy, shifty runner. It is a lot shorter run to the ball carrier on the short side. Then there are other plays that you can call against a D that is playing zones. Where were the bubble screens? I recall only one Tebow's play action draw fakes.

Overall it looked like a let down game for both players and coaches. Luckily for the Gators they escaped with a win.

blues_cap
09-22-2007, 09:50 PM
there has been a lot of talk about penalties in this game, so here is my take:

most of the penalties on florida were legit(MOST-the holding call on ingram while percy ran a reverse was complete bs-not even close-ci had the guy sealed bad). that said, harvey was getting mugged at the los numerous times and uf got 1 holding call, and it took the tackle doing a 2 leg takedown(given, om was doing a very good job with their rb to chip and give the tackle some help, so it may not of mattered). regardless, this is football and there will be some big hits, some so-so calls, etc. it seemed they were calling a freakin basketball game and not a football game. please, let these kids play to a certain extent and let them decide the outcome of the games.

like i said, the majority of these calls were legit, but it seemed they a lot of them were ticky-tacky(even the last 2 on the ole miss series with the game in the balance). let the game decide itself, not decided by old ass officials in black and white stripes(not that this means anything, but i used to officiate hs football and i have emphathy for officials, whose side i generally take).

this wasnt that bad of an officiated game, but much too picky. holding can be called on every play, a hold 15 yards behind the ball means nothing.

please, let them play.

GatorHunter
09-23-2007, 12:50 AM
there has been a lot of talk about penalties in this game, so here is my take:

most of the penalties on florida were legit(MOST-the holding call on ingram while percy ran a reverse was complete bs-not even close-ci had the guy sealed bad). that said, harvey was getting mugged at the los numerous times and uf got 1 holding call, and it took the tackle doing a 2 leg takedown(given, om was doing a very good job with their rb to chip and give the tackle some help, so it may not of mattered). regardless, this is football and there will be some big hits, some so-so calls, etc. it seemed they were calling a freakin basketball game and not a football game. please, let these kids play to a certain extent and let them decide the outcome of the games.

like i said, the majority of these calls were legit, but it seemed they a lot of them were ticky-tacky(even the last 2 on the ole miss series with the game in the balance). let the game decide itself, not decided by old ass officials in black and white stripes(not that this means anything, but i used to officiate hs football and i have emphathy for officials, whose side i generally take).

this wasnt that bad of an officiated game, but much too picky. holding can be called on every play, a hold 15 yards behind the ball means nothing.

please, let them play.

There were a lot of ticky-tack BS...and I get "singled out" when I complain about calls...but I complain about all bad calls is SEC games...heck, after the LSU-AU game last season, I was on here complaining...I just get tired of all the BS...we have the best conference in the country...yet, our officials are some of the worst. One of the worst calls of the day....Murphy scores on the long TD pass from Tebow...he runs into the endzone, hands the ball to the ref and does the Gator-Chomp to the crowd of UF fans in the endzone bleachers...he doesn't even do it blatantly, looks like he's clapping...yet, he gets hit with a 15 yd celebration penalty...and Ijjas misses the PAT...which, looked like a difference maker for few minutes in the 4th. Yet...the OM LB can tackle Harvin, get in his face and make a "throat slashing" sign in front of the ref...That's complete BS.

Cianne
09-23-2007, 12:57 AM
The Seth Adams INT was also entirely caused by a blown defensive holding call where the DB decided Marshay Green needed a hug while trying to run the deep post.

Oh and GH, you realize that Murphy was doing the gator chomp into the Ole Miss student section.

Cianne
09-23-2007, 01:00 AM
Either way, it was a fun game to go be at. Tebow carrying all 280 pounds of MLB Chris Strong into the endzone on his 5 yard draw was pretty impressive. Percy Harvin's agility is always fun to watch. Mike Wallace showing Florida what speed is by blowing past the Florida secondary. Greg Hardy actually slinging Tebow down like a rag doll. All fun.

GatorHunter
09-23-2007, 01:06 AM
Oh and GH, you realize that Murphy was doing the gator chomp into the Ole Miss student section.

I never said there was "homecooking"...just that the officials were callin' some ticky-tack BS...and whether Murphy was doing the Gator Chomp to the OM student section or not...he did it twice and then started clapping. Funny thing...most of our players do the Gator Chomp when they score...it's the first time IN RECORDED HISTORY that a celebration penalty was called.

BTW...I just watched the call you are referring to with our DB and Adams INT...unless the WR's last name is Jordan and he's 9 ft tall...there's no way he could've come close to that pass.

Cianne
09-23-2007, 01:08 AM
It's cool. Two years ago was the first time in recorded history there was a celebration penalty called for jumping up and down, too. Earl Bennett remembers it well.

GatorHunter
09-23-2007, 01:16 AM
It's cool. Two years ago was the first time in recorded history there was a celebration penalty called for jumping up and down, too. Earl Bennett remembers it well.

:laugh:...that's funny...it's also funny that you remember something that happened in one of our games from 2 years ago...I don't remember anything that happened to your team one year ago...heck, last week!!!:lol:

Cianne
09-23-2007, 01:17 AM
I remember many things about many teams. I s'pose I just pay more attention to SEC ball than you.

GatorHunter
09-23-2007, 02:19 AM
I remember many things about many teams. I s'pose I just pay more attention to SEC ball than you.

Maybe so...I don't have that kinda time on my hands...:ph34r:

Cianne
09-23-2007, 02:49 AM
Maybe so...I don't have that kinda time on my hands...:ph34r:

Neither do I.

GatorNation
09-23-2007, 08:19 AM
Mike Wallace showing Florida what speed is by blowing past the Florida secondary.

Yeah, beating up on a true freshman who thought he had cover help (from another true freshman) on the play....

what a man-child! You think he'd transfer if we gave him a schollie?

:D

It would never have happened if Strong didn't call a one-high defense. He was just begging Adams to audible to a go-route. That was nice recognition on is part, though. He's a good QB.

Cianne
09-23-2007, 11:54 AM
Wallace is going to run by a lot of people at 4.3 speed regardless of their class status. I guess I could have said that Harvin was only breaking tackles because we have a bunch of newcomers and walk-ons that still aren't used to SEC play but that would be ignorant.

SECorBust
09-23-2007, 12:07 PM
:laugh:...that's funny...it's also funny that you remember something that happened in one of our games from 2 years ago...I don't remember anything that happened to your team one year ago...heck, last week!!!:lol:

I remember it too and it is sad that with the game on the line they called that BS, I actually remembered it before someone else brought it up.

It was a little chomp, but you're not going to get away with the Gator Chomp in the Endzone, it's obvious celebration. It's just another one of those discipline things like false starts that Meyer needs to work on.

shanksta13
09-23-2007, 12:09 PM
It was a little chomp, but you're not going to get away with the Gator Chomp in the Endzone, it's obvious celebration. It's just another one of those discipline things like false starts that Meyer needs to work on.

If that's true then they need to be consistent about it. Our guys have been doing the chomp after TDs all year long, one in particular Cameron Newton ran across the whole back of the endzone doing it. No one has been flagged yet for it, so I don't see why Murphy was.

SECorBust
09-23-2007, 12:12 PM
If that's true then they need to be consistent about it. Our guys have been doing the chomp after TDs all year long, one in particular Cameron Newton ran across the whole back of the endzone doing it. No one has been flagged yet for it, so I don't see why Murphy was.

It seems like the officiating crew should get together and get some consistency on this issue. Someone should send them a request to do so.

shanksta13
09-23-2007, 12:17 PM
It seems like the officiating crew should get together and get some consistency on this issue. Someone should send them a request to do so.

Meyer said he was going to address it in his post-game interview.

GatorHunter
09-23-2007, 12:31 PM
I remember it too and it is sad that with the game on the line they called that BS, I actually remembered it before someone else brought it up.

It was a little chomp, but you're not going to get away with the Gator Chomp in the Endzone, it's obvious celebration. It's just another one of those discipline things like false starts that Meyer needs to work on.

First off...you guys are wrong...Bennett didn't just "jump around"...he did a little dance...which was immediately flagged. And the game wasn't "on the line"...they were down by one...their coach elected to kick the PAT after the TD...later, he said he would've went for 2 had they not got flagged...what did you expect him to say?:)

What's the definition of "obvious celebration"? So...a player should be flagged for clapping his hands after he scores a TD...yes, I know Murphy did the Gator-Chomp a couple of times...but he was clapping as well. By this logic...anything viewed as "obvious celebration" is flaggable? Tebow jumps up and down, throws his arms in the are after he scores TDs...that's obvious celebration as well...yet he's never been flagged. Our players have been doing this for a couple of years...and it's never been called...until yesterday.

GatorHunter
09-23-2007, 12:36 PM
Wallace is going to run by a lot of people at 4.3 speed regardless of their class status. I guess I could have said that Harvin was only breaking tackles because we have a bunch of newcomers and walk-ons that still aren't used to SEC play but that would be ignorant.

Wright and Haden are both true freshman...Haden has 4.3 speed as well...they're just young and inexperienced and Wallace is a gifted athlete..that's what happens when your DC put you in bad situations. Hats off to both Adams and Wallace...that was a thing of beauty.

blues_cap
09-23-2007, 03:25 PM
There were a lot of ticky-tack BS...and I get "singled out" when I complain about calls...but I complain about all bad calls is SEC games...heck, after the LSU-AU game last season, I was on here complaining...I just get tired of all the BS...we have the best conference in the country...yet, our officials are some of the worst. One of the worst calls of the day....Murphy scores on the long TD pass from Tebow...he runs into the endzone, hands the ball to the ref and does the Gator-Chomp to the crowd of UF fans in the endzone bleachers...he doesn't even do it blatantly, looks like he's clapping...yet, he gets hit with a 15 yd celebration penalty...and Ijjas misses the PAT...which, looked like a difference maker for few minutes in the 4th. Yet...the OM LB can tackle Harvin, get in his face and make a "throat slashing" sign in front of the ref...That's complete BS.

in all fairness, that pat was penalized on the kickoff. ijjas just missed that pat. it did give om good field postition, though.

i agree that was bs. i watched moreno do a little dance after scoring a td last night and the refs didnt do a thing. there needs to be some consistency.

and cianne, what the hell does it matter where on the field he does the gator chomp?? if it is a penalty on one end of the field, it is a penalty on the other(unless he is on the om sideling looking at them and chomping at the players). student section or not shouldnt matter...a penalty is a penalty, regardless of which endzone he is in.

GatorNation
09-23-2007, 04:24 PM
Wright and Haden are both true freshman...Haden has 4.3 speed as well...they're just young and inexperienced and Wallace is a gifted athlete..that's what happens when your DC put you in bad situations. Hats off to both Adams and Wallace...that was a thing of beauty.


Haden's responsibility in cover-3 is the deep zone. He got too close and Wright couldn't help over the top.

Freshman mistake. We had great coverage on Ole Miss the whole game other than that play...and the brainfart by Jackson jumping the seam post for a TD.

Adams consistently threw into double and triple coverage.

Rebel Chuck
09-23-2007, 04:29 PM
Haden's responsibility in cover-3 is the deep zone. He got too close and Wright couldn't help over the top.

Freshman mistake. We had great coverage on Ole Miss the whole game other than that play...and the brainfart by Jackson jumping the seam post for a TD.

Adams consistently threw into double and triple coverage.
For some nice completions

shanksta13
09-23-2007, 04:31 PM
For some nice completions

Haden really should have had two picks on two of the passes that Adams threw into double coverage. He had some nice throws, but he also got lucky on a few of them that didn't get picked.

GatorHunter
09-23-2007, 04:33 PM
Haden's responsibility in cover-3 is the deep zone. He got too close and Wright couldn't help over the top.

Freshman mistake. We had great coverage on Ole Miss the whole game other than that play...and the brainfart by Jackson jumping the seam post for a TD.

Adams consistently threw into double and triple coverage.

Tell ya another thing that bothered me, GN...the short pass game was open...Adams was throwing 5-7 yd passes and there wouldn't be a defender within 5 yards...did Doe have a bad game? He's usually better. And our DBs were playing 9-10 yds off at times...we have too much speed to do that.

Rebel Chuck
09-23-2007, 04:39 PM
Haden really should have had two picks on two of the passes that Adams threw into double coverage. He had some nice throws, but he also got lucky on a few of them that didn't get picked.
If Kendrick Lewis would have kept that INT in his d@mn hands you're looking at a Rebel victory IMO. but "what-if's" are part of Rebel culture now. Tebow is all that was advertised

GatorNation
09-23-2007, 07:51 PM
Tell ya another thing that bothered me, GN...the short pass game was open...Adams was throwing 5-7 yd passes and there wouldn't be a defender within 5 yards...did Doe have a bad game? He's usually better. And our DBs were playing 9-10 yds off at times...we have too much speed to do that.

It's pick your poison with a young secondary. Especially with no pass rush, Meyer is giving the underneath to protect the deep stuff. Keep everything in front...sort of what defenses try and do to us. Those cushions are going to be open using the zone. DBs are bailing out on the snap, and the slants, digs, and curls are going to be no-brainers for the QB.

We're not playing nearly as much man-free and cover-2 than Meyer would like because of the youth, but to get beat deep on a cover-3 is crazy. When Meyer said that on the "Urban Meyer Show," I nearly fell out of my chair. The "go" route is the one route that should never have worked on that play, lol. I feel better that it wasn't a one-high call, asking Wright to cover the whole field (a la RFN), but now that it wasn't a blown call, it's just a matter of coachin' 'em up.

Haden didn't bail out early enough. My guess is he was trying to give a press look to throw off Adams, but the disguise backfired when he couldn't bail out fast enough to recover. I'd have to see the film, but I'm guessing there was a load right, which pulled Wright over to the right side of the field...causing him to be too far away to break off his deep middle-third zone and make the tackle.

It's just youth. No worries.

blues_cap
09-24-2007, 07:20 AM
Tell ya another thing that bothered me, GN...the short pass game was open...Adams was throwing 5-7 yd passes and there wouldn't be a defender within 5 yards...did Doe have a bad game? He's usually better. And our DBs were playing 9-10 yds off at times...we have too much speed to do that.

im not so much worried about this. if you remember last year, we basically did the same thing with the secondary....give em underneath and make them go the length of the field. the difference is that last year we were getting pressure which led to some sacks, which led to some 2nd and 3rd and longs. our D fits perfectly into this situation b/c all we have to do is come up and tackle. with us getting no pressure, it almost takes a penalty to get a team out of down and distance.

if you remember, everybody said uf's weakness last year was our pass D. on the bright side, the D did an excellent job of keeping om out of the endzone once they got into the red zone.....if you take away the 2 big plays.

the biggest problem i see is that our defensive coaches still seem to think we can pressure with 4 rushing, which isnt the case. last year, we dropped 7 nearly every play and still managed to get to the qb. we were running some twists saturday but they werent very effective. when the game was close in the 4th, we blitzed adams twice which led to a pick and a 4th down incompletion where he underthrew the wr by about 6 yards. we do not need to leave our secondary in man-man, but there are many other ways to blitz and still play a zone, which i think we will start to see.

sheluvsbama
09-24-2007, 09:32 AM
Congrats to the Rebels for a well-played game. You have nothing to be ashamed of, and much, of which, to be proud. I wish you luck this season! (not against Bama, though!) :laugh:

NiKka
09-24-2007, 11:25 AM
If Kendrick Lewis would have kept that INT in his d@mn hands you're looking at a Rebel victory IMO. but "what-if's" are part of Rebel culture now. Tebow is all that was advertised

I know I was going off when he dropped that
that woulda been game set match