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Ralliartist
09-10-2007, 12:32 AM
I know it's early and we both have a game next week before we play each other. But since we are getting some hate and bashing from people I just would like to explain why some of us are optimistic about playing LSU in 2 weeks.

LSU D vs USC O. LSU's Defense is awesome. I know that when they played Miss State that it was just the first game. But, Miss State held them off pretty decently and gave Micheal Henig plenty of time to make some good throws. He just sucks to bad to actually make them. Then he became scared to even throw a pass and croom just left him in their to roast and throw and eventual 6 int's. Which led to the romping that LSU gave them. The thing is we have a 5th year senior QB at the helm that will not make such horrible passes. Not only that but he is smart enough to read the defense and call an audible if need be. Henig could do none of that for lack of experience. I know Mitchell looked rusty a little against UGA, but I can assure you that the rust is knocked off and if we can keep from making any mistakes like we did against UGA, then our offense definitely has a chance to move the ball and score. LSU's defense didn't really start to tear Henig and the Oline a new one until the late second half when they were tired and just overwhelmed. I don't think we get into that kind of situation. Too top that off, I know everyone saw how well cory boyd and mike davis ran the ball, even when they don't get the best blocking, it's hard to bring them down. I can gaurantee you that it'll take more than 1 guy to do it. No arm tackling either please or these 2 backs will make you pay. But I am worried about Dorsey. Our Oline did great against UGA but we did allow 2 sacks and we do have 2 freshman on the line. So dorsey will get his fair share of sacks, shall I say 3 maybe 4? And that LSU secondary is no joke. It will be a lot harder to carve them up. Hell, I don't think that is even possible. Mitchell will pretty much have to play the best game of his life. He will have to be on perfect target with ever throw. even then I don't think it will be possible to avoid a INT. We have talented WR's but they have even better defensive backs with way more experience.

USC D vs LSU O. Our D played the best game ever against UGA. But I have to admit, there were some holes that were easily seen. I saw plenty of open wide outs that Stafford just didn't look to for some reason. Possibly cause he was being pressured? BINGO. LSU has a great Oline, but even given that, Our D is 3 and 4 deep. So we should all know by now that we can last an entire game, and then some. Fresh legs won't be a problem. Miss State even made it through their Oline and put some pressure on Flynn. So I think we will get in the back feild and cause some problems. I think both D's get their fair share of sacks, probably the same amount. Flynn will have to be sure who he is going to throw to, unlike henig and stafford, or he will be picked off. I'm sure our D-backs will be getting drilled more on making those catches for those INT's! PLUS, even though Flynn may complete the pass to one of those really fast WR's, say Doucet for that matter, they better hold on, cause E. COOK and those other secondary guys know how to hit somebody. I can make an arguement all day long about how I think USC has the best secondary in the SEC, but they can't slouch off at all against possibly the best Wide outs in the SEC. The Brinkley's will have to play their best game yet also. We will rely on their pass protection as well as their run stop ability. Hester an Williams are just as good a tandem as Boyd and Davis. But the running game can be stopped as we saw against Miss State. What I am worried about mainly on that LSU O is Perriloux. Yes believe it or not but the back up QB is the one I'm worried about. He steps in their and is used as a tebow like player. He is dangerous with his legs and he can throw. When LSU drives to the red zone, we'll have to be wary of perriloux as he could damage us badly.

My prediction is this will probably be the lowest scoring game this year in the SEC. You would think that LSU has the edge since the game is in the Bayou, maybe they do, but for some odd reason, South Carolina loves the road games. We play with way more passion on the road and our adrenaline pumps oh so fast. Maybe it's cause we love hear the hearts shaddering from all those fans. Either way I wouldn't give the edge to either team. So far they've given up 1 touchdown, we've given up 2. They have run the score up on their opponents while we have beaten ours soundly. But they have faced teams that have given them so many opportunities with the turnovers. They won't get those opportunities against USC. They are going to have to work for it. I'm not gonna say who will win or what the score will be. I'll make that prediction in due time.

thanks for reading and GO COCKS! I don't really care if I get flamed or not, I just wanted to share my thought process and why I think we stand a chance.

TPM
09-10-2007, 12:42 AM
USC stands a chance in all there games this year. They are a improved bunch. But don't get caught up in how LSU looked against MSU bro. Our O-line looked very much improved from week 1 to week 2. It is my opinion at this time that if LSU's O can score 17-20 points a game, that will be all they need with the defense they have. No flame here though. I have no doubt that it will be a great SEC matchup.

lacene
09-10-2007, 12:56 AM
If there is anything to complain or have concern about with the Gamecocks, it's that we've still haven't had a #2 WR step up or out of the pack. Thus far, both the Browns (Moe & Freddie) are the WR's that have caught the most passes.

Check that: after McKinley, Moe & Freddie are the ONLY WR's to catch any passes in the first two games. And both are way down the list after the RB's (C. Boyd & Davis) and TE's (A. Boyd & Cook). We have still not seen a peep of our coveted #1-in-the-nation WR class we just brought in.

Against SC State, we have a chance to maybe do some things we weren't able to do in the UL-L game: get our young players some playing time experience. It looks like Chris Culliver is the only FR WR that has had any PT in the two games thus far, but he hasn't run any routes, or had any passes thrown his way.

But our D and O-line has gotten a large dose of confidence from the UGA game, and we're relatively injury free. We should be getting Banag back from his injury, and Thompson will be available for the LSU game. So whatever shot we can give LSU, should be our best shot....

Ralliartist
09-10-2007, 01:01 AM
If there is anything to complain or have concern about with the Gamecocks, it's that we've still haven't had a #2 WR step up or out of the pack. Thus far, both the Browns (Moe & Freddie) are the WR's that have caught the most passes.

Check that: after McKinley, Moe & Freddie are the ONLY WR's to catch any passes in the first two games. And both are way down the list after the RB's (C. Boyd & Davis) and TE's (A. Boyd & Cook). We have still not seen a peep of our coveted #1-in-the-nation WR class we just brought in.

Against SC State, we have a chance to maybe do some things we weren't able to do in the UL-L game: get our young players some playing time experience. It looks like Chris Culliver is the only FR WR that has had any PT in the two games thus far, but he hasn't run any routes, or had any passes thrown his way.

But our D and O-line has gotten a large dose of confidence from the UGA game, and we're relatively injury free. We should be getting Banag back from his injury, and Thompson will be available for the LSU game. So whatever shot we can give LSU, should be our best shot....

you hit some points on the nose that I left out. all that does is add to the equation. I really want to see our offense man handle the sc state d. I want to see those wide outs make some big plays. and I want to see that d destroy. after that game, I'll be able to make some kind of prediction for the lsu game. until then, I was just bringing up points on why i think we stand the best chance thus far to bring the mighty bengals down. It will probably be the best game this year. one to talk about for the ages.

GatorChomp
09-10-2007, 01:11 AM
Can't believe how confident yall are after one good win to Georgia. I really believe LSU will bring you down to earth in two weeks time.

lacene
09-10-2007, 01:18 AM
Can't believe how confident yall are after one good win to Georgia. I really believe LSU will bring you down to earth in two weeks time.

Why should I not be confident that the Gamecocks should be able to give their best effort against LSU?? Actually, I only had one certain team put down as a "Loss" for the Gamecocks in the prediction thread (http://www.sectalk.com/boards/sec-football-talk/16766-predict-their-season-south-carolina.html) that AUBlaaaake made back in April or May, and that was LSU. That hasn't changed. I had Georgia as a "Win", and all the other tough SEC opponents were IMO "Toss-Ups". I haven't wavered from that since.

Of course, If we happened to beat LSU, I won't reject it....... :closedeye

Roscoe
09-10-2007, 01:38 AM
I can see why you're optimistic, and you should be, because you guys played well yesterday. But I disagree with you on the prediction of it being a low scoring game. I think it'll be one of LSU's tougher games, but I don't think there's a question about who will win. I'm not flaming you or trying to be an ass. And I might be a bit too optimistic when I say this, and I may be sadly mistaken, but I have a feeling that LSU may score 40+ against every opponent this year, that isn't named Florida.

GatorChomp
09-10-2007, 01:42 AM
With our defense I wouldn't be surprised if you put up 40+ on us. I think the real question is whether any offense can keep up with yours and be able to be as physical of a team. I think Florida has a shot just becasue we can score and we do have talent on defense, it is just inexperienced.

I do think LSU will score a good number on every team they play.

M2J
09-10-2007, 01:53 AM
Yeah, I can't wait to see this game. I honestly believe SC has a chance and this is the game that will tell me and the nation exactly how great LSU can be.

They had the nation complaining after week 1, and clammoring over them after week 2. Their offense didn't look good enough in week 1 and one can only imagine the score had MSU had a competent QB and didn't give the offense 6 more chances to score, and instead puts some points on the board themselves.

Then week 2 they blow out a team that was ranked top 10, Nearly shut them out, and scored at will. However, one has to wonder whether or not Va Tech is simply overrated as they almost lost to East Carolina, well came very close... they haven't had a good running game for a few years, and I simply don't trust any team's defense (even if it is supposed to be great) until it goes until a top SEC school (See Ohio St. last year).

But if they get a blowout score against SC, by shutting them down to under 17pts and score over 30, then I'll feel great about their chances to take it all. To me, 3's a charm (that team they play this week doesn't count, lol).

Roscoe
09-10-2007, 02:13 AM
I'm not really sure what happened in week 1. The offense sputtered big time. But I don't really think it's fair to say "had the defense not taken the ball away 6 times, LSU wouldn't have scored so much."

1) We DID take the ball away, it's part of the game
2) It's one way to win football games
3) It doesn't matter how you score, if a defense wins a game 45-0, then, if and when the offense kicks in, holy shit.
4) if you want to put it in "what if" terms, then if LSU would have gone undefeated last year, and then beat USC for the title, then Les Miles would have a trophy to show. But I don't believe in a John Madden analysis. It is what it is.

I also have a suspicion that LSU was holding back to keep Va Tech from being able to properly scout the offense. After all, they were the #9 team in the country coming into Baton Rouge, so I would only guess that Les Miles was expecting a blood bath. And by "holding back," I mean if you watched the game in week 1, the plays LSU ran, looked to come out of a H.S. playbook. So I think 1) they were trying to gain an early advantage over Va. Tech in week 1 by not showing many cards 2) Va Tech was severely overrated.

Just as you believe SC has a chance, I don't really believe they do. But I do agree that SC will be LSU's first real test.

It'll certainly be interesting to see how things play out.

M2J
09-10-2007, 02:26 AM
Its not about that 1 game vs MSU. They did what they were supposed to do, but no doubt turnovers help offenses, and I seriously doubt another that you really need to be measured against will give you so many turnovers (like SC) and I want to see how consistent the offense is. Sue me :rolleyes:

Roscoe
09-10-2007, 02:55 AM
Well, it's definately not consistent so far. But I agree, I'm anxious to see what happens in the SC game. To be honest, the LSU fans (I can't speak for the team), haven't really given a second thought to any games other than Va. Tech, Florida, Auburn, and Alabama. Not that the other teams aren't good, they're just not powerhouses yet.

And I think the Bama game is just on their minds as vengance game against Saban. I believe if Miles has the chance, he'll run the score up as high as possible against Bama. Because, quite frankly, he's JUST now being cemented in the minds of the fans as a legitimate LSU coach (even with back to back 10win seasons.) If he buries Alabama, like the fans want him to do, he'll have won them over forever, or at least until he leaves for Michigan. :chair:

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 04:14 AM
I would be shocked if VT wound up in the Top 25, Beamer has some real problems this year. Their Offense scored ONE TD against an East Carolina team that allowed 425 yds. and 31 points to a suspect North Carolina team this past weekend. Auburn has serious Offense problems. UTk is very suspect on Defense. UF is very good on Offense, but what about their Defense? I realize they were up 49-7 at Halftime, but still allowed Troy to get some cheap 31 points. I'm not sure if that was against scrubs or what. That was likely the case. UGA is suspect at this point. So, what looked like a daunting stretch of Vandy, Arky, UGA, & FSU doesn't look AS daunting as it did in the preseason. That Houston game is scary for me, they put up 545 yards on the Ducks, AT Oregon and lost on bonehead errors. The same Oregon team that stomped Michigan in the Big House. Two weeks from know we'll have a better feel for what's going on, but it looks to me that Nov. 3rd looms large for the West Title.

Sept. 1, 2007 Western Carolina (PPV) W 52-6 1-0
Sept. 8, 2007 at Vanderbilt (LF Sports) W 24-10 2-0 (1-0)
Sept. 15, 2007 Arkansas (ESPN) 5:45 pm CT
Sept. 22, 2007 Georgia 2:30 pm CT
Sept. 29, 2007 at Florida State TBA
Oct. 6, 2007 Houston TBA
Oct. 13, 2007 at Ole Miss TBA
Oct. 20, 2007 Tennessee TBA
Nov. 3, 2007 LSU TBA
Nov. 10, 2007 at Miss. State TBA
Nov. 17, 2007 La.-Monroe TBA
Nov. 24, 2007 at Auburn TBA

Tigervision
09-10-2007, 04:59 AM
First time to this forum. Hello there, Sorry if this is long. Just my take on Carolina & LSU.

First time to this forum. I actually found it on accident and you all seem like a decent bunch of fans from the best football conference. Anyway, getting to my view, opinion on SC,which so happened to be the game I personally was most worried about. I have been following the cocks since the visor came back. After the first two games of the season, I'm not sure about the run defense of Carolina, Laugh-yette ran for 252 yards about 5.5 yards a carry. Granted that was game 1. Georgia we will all agree is a MUCH more talented opponent ran for 128 yards, with Moreno averaging around 7 yards PER carry. So in my opinion your run defense is a big weak spot.

LsU ran for almost 200 yards on State, Hester getting the majority for around 4 yards a carry depending on who ran. Against Tech we ran for almost 300 yards, KW ran for 126 yards on 7 carries and 2 TD's thats around 18 yards a carry. Hester ran for another 81 yards also. I think thats going to be the tail of the game in my opinion. If we win the trench war, game, set, match.

In out first game of the season everyone watched us run a very boring and for the most part out of sync run game. Beating State everyone was confident we were going to do since they have beat us once in the last, hell I cant remember the last time, like 98 maybe? We were in no way going to show anything special to Tech that we didn't need to. So we looked rusty as almost all teams do in week one. You can admit SC looked really rusty against Laugh-yette. Then in the Tech game, We actually use our play book and the week 1 to 2 progress that everyone also makes, showed. Offensive Line was 100% better, which lead to obviously better running attack, along with the passing game.

My concussion is that I am worried about the SC game just like I was before the season started, because of Spurrier. I was over all happy with USC's team with my only concern being their run defense. I'm not saying theres no chance, thats why they play the game. I'm just saying SC still has building up to do and visor has them heading in the right direction.

GamecockDieHard
09-10-2007, 06:34 AM
I hope we get picked up by CBS for the 3:30 p.m. game. You guys must be vampires or something, 'cause I think you're stronger at night in DV.

GamecockDieHard
09-10-2007, 06:39 AM
First time to this forum. Hello there, Sorry if this is long. Just my take on Carolina & LSU.

First time to this forum. I actually found it on accident and you all seem like a decent bunch of fans from the best football conference. Anyway, getting to my view, opinion on SC,which so happened to be the game I personally was most worried about. I have been following the cocks since the visor came back. After the first two games of the season, I'm not sure about the run defense of Carolina, Laugh-yette ran for 252 yards about 5.5 yards a carry. Granted that was game 1. Georgia we will all agree is a MUCH more talented opponent ran for 128 yards, with Moreno averaging around 7 yards PER carry. So in my opinion your run defense is a big weak spot.

LsU ran for almost 200 yards on State, Hester getting the majority for around 4 yards a carry depending on who ran. Against Tech we ran for almost 300 yards, KW ran for 126 yards on 7 carries and 2 TD's thats around 18 yards a carry. Hester ran for another 81 yards also. I think thats going to be the tail of the game in my opinion. If we win the trench war, game, set, match.

In out first game of the season everyone watched us run a very boring and for the most part out of sync run game. Beating State everyone was confident we were going to do since they have beat us once in the last, hell I cant remember the last time, like 98 maybe? We were in no way going to show anything special to Tech that we didn't need to. So we looked rusty as almost all teams do in week one. You can admit SC looked really rusty against Laugh-yette. Then in the Tech game, We actually use our play book and the week 1 to 2 progress that everyone also makes, showed. Offensive Line was 100% better, which lead to obviously better running attack, along with the passing game.

My concussion is that I am worried about the SC game just like I was before the season started, because of Spurrier. I was over all happy with USC's team with my only concern being their run defense. I'm not saying theres no chance, thats why they play the game. I'm just saying SC still has building up to do and visor has them heading in the right direction.

Welcome Tigervision. Good analysis and spot on about our run defense. Moreno broke one for 49 yards which helped his and Georgia's stats considerably. But it only takes one run like that to win. Other than that particular run, we were much improved over week 1. We'll have all our starters back for LSU and should be even tighter. And there's no doubt we'll be pumped up to play the #1 team in the country.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 08:34 AM
is it me or i'm the only one glad Mitchell is playing vs us?

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 08:42 AM
is it me or i'm the only one glad Mitchell is playing vs us?

Just you! :laugh:

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 08:43 AM
Just you! :laugh:

i guess when we beat them, you'll say they weren't any good?

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 08:45 AM
i guess when we beat them, you'll say they weren't any good?

Yup, just like you and Vandy. Gotta admit, I was wrong on VT. If they're a top 50 team, I'll be surprised. The whole ACC looks like crap.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 08:47 AM
Yup, just like you and Vandy. Gotta admit, I was wrong on VT. If they're a top 50 team, I'll be surprised. The whole ACC looks like crap.

Vandy w/o an healthy Nickson is a bad team...there's no getting around this

and I expect you to say every team we face is great until we beat them and you say they were crap:brick:

cocky4ever
09-10-2007, 09:03 AM
is it me or i'm the only one glad Mitchell is playing vs us?

Werent you one of the ones talking about how Stafford was gonna blow Mitchell out of the water Sat.??

Mitchell= 20 out of 31 for 174 yards with no TD and no INT...long of 31

Stafford= 19 out of 44 for 213 yards with no TD and 1 INT...long of 25


be glad all you want

OmahaBound
09-10-2007, 09:16 AM
Vandy w/o an healthy Nickson is a bad team...there's no getting around this

and I expect you to say every team we face is great until we beat them and you say they were crap:brick:

The fact that VT has looked like crap so far doesn't mean LSU's victory was any less impressive. It was complete domination. But c'mon, they looked like ass against East Carolina too. They're just not a very good team right now, and I'd imagine we'll see a permanent QB change very soon. They're not a crap team, but they're certainly playing like it right now.

As for your Mitchell comment, are you actually saying you'd be more concerned if Smelley or Beecher were QB? If you're not worried about Mitchell beating you that's fine, but I'm not sure how we'd have any better shot with any of the backups.

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 09:26 AM
LSU looked great against VT in week two. VT was probably a bit overrated, but that doesn't change the fact that LSU was really impressive. VT had the #1 defense in the nation last year and returned 8 starters. They don't give up 48 points too often. The only reason that VT might not be a top 10 team is that thier offense lacks a big play maker.

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 09:28 AM
BTW...Did everyone see that Kieland Williams run off the Flynn option? Gets ya a bit excited about his future.

GamecockDieHard
09-10-2007, 09:44 AM
is it me or i'm the only one glad Mitchell is playing vs us?

No. I'm glad too.:laugh:

cocky4ever
09-10-2007, 09:48 AM
LSU looked great against VT in week two. VT was probably a bit overrated, but that doesn't change the fact that LSU was really impressive. VT had the #1 defense in the nation last year and returned 8 starters. They don't give up 48 points too often. The only reason that VT might not be a top 10 team is that thier offense lacks a big play maker.

And chumpson had a top 5 defense in the country last year playing in the ASheShe...that is until they played SC and UK. Not that VT's defense isnt good, but stopping offenses in the ACC makes defenses look better than they actually are a lot of times.

OmahaBound
09-10-2007, 09:53 AM
BTW...Did everyone see that Kieland Williams run off the Flynn option? Gets ya a bit excited about his future.

Yeah, he's definitely going to be a good one.

Zee
09-10-2007, 10:02 AM
my 2 cents:

LSU will have to play like crap for us to beat them. I think we have a chance, just not a very good one.

bmwparts
09-10-2007, 10:15 AM
I can see why you're optimistic, and you should be, because you guys played well yesterday. But I disagree with you on the prediction of it being a low scoring game. I think it'll be one of LSU's tougher games, but I don't think there's a question about who will win. I'm not flaming you or trying to be an ass. And I might be a bit too optimistic when I say this, and I may be sadly mistaken, but I have a feeling that LSU may score 40+ against every opponent this year, that isn't named Florida.

let me state this!

lsu hasnt been tested and florida hasnt been tested, and i know your gonna say.....we just played v-tech.....heres my answer v-tech sucks this year, just like mich!

lsu has done good not allowing points, they allowed 0 and then 7 THATS AWESOME! but.... in the miss state game they could have played with blinders on and scored 40 points, and v-tech is very very very over-rated (they played east carolina and it was a close game 17-7, and the got blew out by lsu)

florida has not been tested by anybody and not to mention they allowed 30 points to a aa team, and to add something arky and florida score against troy were almost the same so if you compare apples to apples florida is no better than arky......right??????


and i will say this i dont think anything of this big scores high 30's, 40's, and 50's against competitive high school teams.

if lsu and florida expect to score that mush on use they need to watch that ga game a few times and start studying now!!!!



and dont think i'm saying were the stuff and were un-beatable and all that garbage, i just think alot of teams are over-hyped ALOT!!!


GO COCKS!!

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 10:24 AM
Werent you one of the ones talking about how Stafford was gonna blow Mitchell out of the water Sat.??

Mitchell= 20 out of 31 for 174 yards with no TD and no INT...long of 31

Stafford= 19 out of 44 for 213 yards with no TD and 1 INT...long of 25


be glad all you want

no...i said UGA would run all day on you. i was never high on stafford either

ThatGuy
09-10-2007, 10:27 AM
no...i said UGA would run all day on you. i was never high on stafford either

LOL @ Stafford

and you guys are awesome. I'm hoping for an LSU/USC matchup now

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 10:30 AM
LOL @ Stafford

and you guys are awesome. I'm hoping for an LSU/USC matchup now

one game at a time....MTSU's offense does scare me

i mean is Louis's defense that bad? Louis had a great defense last year if i remember correctly

Gator2753
09-10-2007, 10:37 AM
let me state this!

lsu hasnt been tested and florida hasnt been tested, and i know your gonna say.....we just played v-tech.....heres my answer v-tech sucks this year, just like mich!

lsu has done good not allowing points, they allowed 0 and then 7 THATS AWESOME! but.... in the miss state game they could have played with blinders on and scored 40 points, and v-tech is very very very over-rated (they played east carolina and it was a close game 17-7, and the got blew out by lsu)

florida has not been tested by anybody and not to mention they allowed 30 points to a aa team, and to add something arky and florida score against troy were almost the same so if you compare apples to apples florida is no better than arky......right??????


and i will say this i dont think anything of this big scores high 30's, 40's, and 50's against competitive high school teams.

if lsu and florida expect to score that mush on use they need to watch that ga game a few times and start studying now!!!!



and dont think i'm saying were the stuff and were un-beatable and all that garbage, i just think alot of teams are over-hyped ALOT!!!


GO COCKS!!

How do we know UGA isn't over rated this year? Look how far they fell in the polls? Look who UGA plays next week. Thats a sure fire win for them. And I guess La-Lafayette and SC state are exceptional teams.
I do agree with you opinion on Florida to a certain degree. We are about to get tested with a stretch of Tennessee, @ Ole Miss, Auburn, and @ LSU coming up.
Lets face it, Tennessee is probably the only SEC team who has been tested the toughest so far with them playing a top 10 caliber team on the road.
VT cannot even be compared to Michigan. VT got the W in their opener and they will go on to be one of the better teams in the ACC this year and will finish ranked in the top 25.
LSU will be the measuring stick for everyone in the SEC. Well know just how good Carolina, AUburn, Florida, Arkansas, Bama, Kentucky, & Ole Miss really are after we all face them.

NextYearIsHere
09-10-2007, 11:17 AM
VT cannot even be compared to Michigan. VT got the W in their opener and they will go on to be one of the better teams in the ACC this year and will finish ranked in the top 25.

1st off, VT got a W because they werent playing App. State. If they had played App. State, they would be 0-2 right now.

2nd, Being a better or even best team in the ACC is like being the hottest chick at a Jenny Craig meeting. The ACC stinks, there best teams cant hang with our sub .500 teams

USC isnt the next National Champs, but we'll test LSU like no one they have seen so far, so there's no way to know what will happen.

PS. FLA is no where near as good as everyone says. They should be very worried about coming to Carolina this year, we've got your number

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 11:21 AM
1st off, VT got a W because they werent playing App. State. If they had played App. State, they would be 0-2 right now.

2nd, Being a better or even best team in the ACC is like being the hottest chick at a Jenny Craig meeting. The ACC stinks, there best teams cant hang with our sub .500 teams

USC isnt the next National Champs, but we'll test LSU like no one they have seen so far, so there's no way to know what will happen.

PS. FLA is no where near as good as everyone says. They should be very worried about coming to Carolina this, we've got your number

I'd take GT over any team in the SEC outside of LSU and Florida.

Gator2753
09-10-2007, 11:22 AM
I'd take GT over any team in the SEC outside of LSU and Florida.

Agreed. I love how everyone continues to ignore them.

GatorChomp
09-10-2007, 11:24 AM
let me state this!

lsu hasnt been tested and florida hasnt been tested, and i know your gonna say.....we just played v-tech.....heres my answer v-tech sucks this year, just like mich!

lsu has done good not allowing points, they allowed 0 and then 7 THATS AWESOME! but.... in the miss state game they could have played with blinders on and scored 40 points, and v-tech is very very very over-rated (they played east carolina and it was a close game 17-7, and the got blew out by lsu)

florida has not been tested by anybody and not to mention they allowed 30 points to a aa team, and to add something arky and florida score against troy were almost the same so if you compare apples to apples florida is no better than arky......right??????


and i will say this i dont think anything of this big scores high 30's, 40's, and 50's against competitive high school teams.

if lsu and florida expect to score that mush on use they need to watch that ga game a few times and start studying now!!!!



and dont think i'm saying were the stuff and were un-beatable and all that garbage, i just think alot of teams are over-hyped ALOT!!!


GO COCKS!!
You are such a homer it isn't even funny. Also, your spelling and grammar is horrible. That being said, lets do this methodically.


LSU has been tested. Virginia Tech does have a good defense and is a decent team. I do believe they are overrated, but they still are a respectable team. Your point about ECU is null. ECU has a pretty good team. VT is a good team with a good defense, putting up over 40 on them is an achievement. Your point that LSU could score 40 points without any effort on State is pretty pointless too. LSU wasn't showing any of their plays so that they wouldn't give VT any film to study.

Who cares that Florida hasn't been tested? Doesn't mean they are a horrible team. Troy is not a Div I-AA school. It is I-A. Troy actually has a pretty good program. They lost to Arkansas by only 20. Most of the points that Troy got were due to mistakes on offense and aren't totally on the defense. Even so, Florida lightened up on them in the 2nd half. There is only a slight diference between 46-26 and 59-31 (sarcasm). You cannot really compare teams playing the same team and make comparisons. Sports don't work like that. If team A beats team B and team B beats team C, that doesn't necessarily mean team A will beat team C or is a better team than C. Teams match up differently with different teams.

Competitive high school teams? Western Kentucky put up 87 points on West Virginia...Tech. Florida killed them 49-3. Even though they aren't the best team, Western Kentucky must have some offensive ability if they can put up 87 points to any team. Troy is a decent team. That being said, neither are that amazing and certainly not tests, but neither are they high school teams. LSU played State and VT, definitely not high school teams.

South Carolina's defense is not that amazing. LSU and Florida possibly have the best two offenses in the conference, either would be able to score on your defense. As others have noted, your rushing defense has been suspect the past few games and if that is a real issue then you are in trouble against LSU and Florida.

I think a lot of teams are overrated as well, but LSU is not one of them for sure. I don't think Florida is either. If any of the top 25 SEC teams are overrated it is South Carolina. They beat an overrated Georgia and now they went from being unranked to being 17th.

I hope SC State gives yall a good game so you can stop ragging on LSU and Florida for killing bad teams.

Gator2753
09-10-2007, 11:27 AM
1st off, VT got a W because they werent playing App. State. If they had played App. State, they would be 0-2 right now.

2nd, Being a better or even best team in the ACC is like being the hottest chick at a Jenny Craig meeting. The ACC stinks, there best teams cant hang with our sub .500 teams

USC isnt the next National Champs, but we'll test LSU like no one they have seen so far, so there's no way to know what will happen.

PS. FLA is no where near as good as everyone says. They should be very worried about coming to Carolina this, we've got your number

You have our number? We've won 2 out of the last 3 and dominate the all time series. How do you have our number?:wacko:

GatorChomp
09-10-2007, 11:29 AM
1st off, VT got a W because they werent playing App. State. If they had played App. State, they would be 0-2 right now.

2nd, Being a better or even best team in the ACC is like being the hottest chick at a Jenny Craig meeting. The ACC stinks, there best teams cant hang with our sub .500 teams

USC isnt the next National Champs, but we'll test LSU like no one they have seen so far, so there's no way to know what will happen.

PS. FLA is no where near as good as everyone says. They should be very worried about coming to Carolina this, we've got your number

I am sorry but you are wrong on all counts.

1. Doesn't matter that they didn't play App. State. It just matters that they played ECU and won.

2. There are some good ACC teams. GT, Clemson and BC all look good. Wake Forest also had a very good game against Nebraska.

3. You probably will give them a better run than anyone they have faced, but that isn't really saying much considering they play MTSU and VT and State didn't challenge them at all. They should still kill you though.

4. Florida is still a very good team. I don't think they are on the LSU/OU/USCal tier, but they are a step below that with Texas, WVU, Cal, Louisville, Wisconsin. While South Carolina should give us a good game I am not really that worried about yall.

GeauxTo
09-10-2007, 11:37 AM
I like the Gamecock enthusiasm. I definitely misjudged them against UGA. It taught me to never, never, never underestimate Spurrier. He can beat anybody, any time, and any place. Can he beat the Tigers in the Bayou? His good defense will have a very balanced offense to stop. The running game will really test the Gamecock line and linebackers; the passing game will test the secondary big time. His offense will have a very fast and aggressive defense to overcome. Can the Cocks run against the Tiger D line and linebackers? Will the Gamecock O line be able to protect Mitchell from Tyson Jackson, Kirston Pittman, and Glenn Dorsey? It has the makings of a really good football game, for sure. Cock talking is one thing, Cock playing is another. We'll see how it goes.

Meantime, we have a very talented Middle Tennessee offense coming in here on Saturday. How pumped do you think they will be! We've gotta take them one game at a time.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 11:43 AM
I like the Gamecock enthusiasm. I definitely misjudged them against UGA. It taught me to never, never, never underestimate Spurrier. He can beat anybody, any time, and any place. Can he beat the Tigers in the Bayou? His good defense will have a very balanced offense to stop. The running game will really test the Gamecock line and linebackers; the passing game will test the secondary big time. His offense will have a very fast and aggressive defense to overcome. Can the Cocks run against the Tiger D line and linebackers? Will the Gamecock O line be able to protect Mitchell from Tyson Jackson, Kirston Pittman, and Glenn Dorsey? It has the makings of a really good football game, for sure. Cock talking is one thing, Cock playing is another. We'll see how it goes.

Meantime, we have a very talented Middle Tennessee offense coming in here on Saturday. How pumped do you think they will be! We've gotta take them one game at a time.

exactly...Cock fans can talk all the smack they want. How great Mitchell is and how we're over-rated and haven't played anyone and our obvious multitudes of vulnerabilities....doesn't bother me a bit because i'm concerned about MTSU and that's about it. next week, i might set some straight:laugh:

sheluvsbama
09-10-2007, 11:46 AM
Can't believe how confident yall are after one good win to Georgia. I really believe LSU will bring you down to earth in two weeks time.
I'm afraid LSU is going to bring alot of people "down to earth" this year. I think Florida will bring LSU down to earth, however.

GAMECOCK_FAN
09-10-2007, 11:50 AM
I'm afraid LSU is going to bring alot of people "down to earth" this year. I think Florida will bring LSU down to earth, however.
GatorUniversity.....Quit using sheluvsbama's computer and ID. :laugh:

GTmorris1970
09-10-2007, 12:08 PM
The whole ACC looks like crap.

GT has one of the best defenses in the nation, and could have scored 100 Saturday if they had chosen to do so. I am quite proud of them thank you.

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 12:13 PM
GT has one of the best defenses in the nation, and could have scored 100 Saturday if they had chosen to do so. I am quite proud of them thank you.

Yeah, GT is exciting. Big game this weekend against Boston College. Can't go wrong with an awesome defense, offensive line, and running back. Should be a fun season for GT, all the tough games are at home. VT, Clemson, Boston College and UGA all come to Atlanta.

scfan5338
09-10-2007, 12:20 PM
While South Carolina should give us a good game I am not really that worried about yall.

As I'm sure you weren't worried about us last year. If it wasn't for lucky fingers that popped up in the air during that kick, you wouldnt have won the national title. How can you say Florida has a great offense? Who the heck have the played? When they play well against some real defenses, let me know. You should be worried about us, because your team has had trouble with USC since Spurrier got to town. Oh and let me guess, you struggled last year because of Chris Leak, he is such a horrible QB. I bet Tebow will not lead UF to the succes it had under Chris Leak.

GTmorris1970
09-10-2007, 12:23 PM
I will briefly give my thoughts on the LSU game, although I will make no predictions.

Spurrier's game plan will be simple, much like Saturday. Get em in a defensive fight, and let his coaching and play calling ability be the 12th man. Some good things for Carolina.
1. Spurrier is the head coach, as good as any game day coach in America.
2. This team started to believe Saturday night. Cory Boyd sitting at mid field with tears running down his face was priceless. Talking about Atlanta is one thing. They saw Saturday it is truly a possibility IF they continue to improve.
3. Carolina will not be afraid to go to LSU. They play better on the road, and Spurrier LOVES these type games, because it gives him one more chance to shut people up.
4. If we don't get it done, we are still in good shape. If we lose to UGA, we almost have to win this one.

LSU is a great team, no doubt. I'm not gonna talk smack about them at all. I will say this, however. Say what you want about Mitchell, but when he is on, he can rip you apart. Look at his last four games last year. He is an excellent QB when that one shows up. One POSSIBILITY I can see in this game. LSU is a lot like UF. They have had an easy ride so far. I don't think you LSU fans will disagree in me saying that Les Miles choked in a couple of games last year. Spurrier knows this, and that is why he will feel if he can keep it close, they may choke late. I'm not saying it will happen, I'm not putting down Les Miles or anything else. I'm saying that will probably be Spurrier's thinking, and not out of the question.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 12:33 PM
i disagree. the only game Les choked was the 05 Tenn game for not pouring it on in the second half. you'll never see him doing that again. Jimbo Fisher failed us in Aub and JaMarcus Russell in Flor. could you not say Spurrier choked vs Flor last year? why is it when other teams lose...they simply lose, but when LSU loses, it's Les Miles fault? and don't give me the talent angle, because Texas (two losses) and USC (two losses) are even more talented.

GTmorris1970
09-10-2007, 12:37 PM
i disagree. the only game Les choked was the 05 Tenn game for not pouring it on in the second half. you'll never see him doing that again. Jimbo Fisher failed us in Aub and JaMarcus Russell in Flor. could you not say Spurrier choked vs Flor last year? why is it when other teams lose...they simply lose, but when LSU loses, it's Les Miles fault? and don't give me the talent angle, because Texas (two losses) and USC (two losses) are even more talented.

Ok. Let me rephrase that. LSU choked in a couple of games last year. Is that better? It doesn't matter to me who it was, teams who are used to blowing people out often choke when engaged in a dogfight. It happens every year. Not just to LSU.

Spurrier choked against UF? I personally thought it was one of the best games of the year. That freak of an athlete they had blocked two kicks. They blocked three in all. That was the difference. Putting up over 500 yds. offense against the national champions wasn't half bad I didn't think.

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 12:40 PM
Ok. Let me rephrase that. LSU choked in a couple of games last year. Is that better? It doesn't matter to me who it was, teams who are used to blowing people out often choke when engaged in a dogfight. It happens every year. Not just to LSU.

Spurrier choked against UF? I personally thought it was one of the best games of the year. That freak of an athlete they had blocked two kicks. They blocked three in all. That was the difference. Putting up over 500 yds. offense against the national champions wasn't half bad I didn't think.

Ramp was just using Spurrier as an example of losing a game. Doesn't mean they choked. LSU as a team choked vs. Floriday by fumbling the ball without even being touched. LSU lost a close game to Auburn, but did get the short end of the stick with all the drive ending bad calls that game.

Those games were also both on the road. The home team usually has the advantage in a close game.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 12:41 PM
Ok. Let me rephrase that. LSU choked in a couple of games last year. Is that better? It doesn't matter to me who it was, teams who are used to blowing people out often choke when engaged in a dogfight. It happens every year. Not just to LSU.

Spurrier choked against UF? I personally thought it was one of the best games of the year. That freak of an athlete they had blocked two kicks. They blocked three in all. That was the difference. Putting up over 500 yds. offense against the national champions wasn't half bad I didn't think.

well then...it's possible for any team to "choke" i guess....

GTmorris1970
09-10-2007, 12:46 PM
There again. Not knocking your team at all. They are LOADED. My only point is this. Carolina lives in these type games. They don't blow people out. They are used to fourth quarter close wins. That COULD give them somewhat of an advantage in a close game. Not saying it will, but it could.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 12:47 PM
There again. Not knocking your team at all. They are LOADED. My only point is this. Carolina lives in these type games. They don't blow people out. They are used to fourth quarter close wins. That COULD give them somewhat of an advantage in a close game. Not saying it will, but it could.

i'll acknowledge that Spurrier owns LSU

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 12:49 PM
There again. Not knocking your team at all. They are LOADED. My only point is this. Carolina lives in these type games. They don't blow people out. They are used to fourth quarter close wins. That COULD give them somewhat of an advantage in a close game. Not saying it will, but it could.

LSU did win a few close games last year to. They beat Ole Miss in OT, beat Tennessee at the end of the game, beat Arkansas in a nail biter. Russell was brialliant when it came to the 2-min offense though. I felt more confident with him at the end of the game than any other QB I can remember.

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 01:07 PM
VT announced that they are starting Frosh QB Taylor this week.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 01:24 PM
VT announced that they are starting Frosh QB Taylor this week.

they'll be back in the top 15 at least now by the end of the season

bjIII
09-10-2007, 02:23 PM
Me personally i am scared of this game... LSU is one of the main games that i was scared off and after the demolishing of VTech i am even more scared. But i agree if we can straighten out the kinks with the recievers and the run defense I think the game is still winnable..

GeauxTo
09-10-2007, 03:53 PM
South Carolina vs LSU

Coaching -- Gamecocks
Running Offense -- Tigers
Running Defense -- Tigers
Passing Offense -- Tigers
Passing Defense -- Tigers
Punting Game -- Tigers
Kicking Game -- Tigers
Special Teams -- TigersHmmmmmmm...

GamecockDieHard
09-10-2007, 03:57 PM
I'm not scared of this game and neither is our team. And IMO, it does no good to concede a game before it's played. Although it's unusual for us, we've played very well on the road. Spurrier doesn't hype or hide and isn't intimidated. That leadership filters down to the players too. We're not expected to win so what have we really got to lose? "It is what it is," as he always says. "Play your assignments with good fundamentals, and if the ball bounces our way, we've got a chance."

LSU will likely be #1 when we go into Death Valley. But I doubt LSU will see the same fear in our eyes that poor Henig had when he went in there in week 1. I'm sure it's a big kick for the Tigers to see opponents all wide-eyed and awe-struck by the size and volume in DV, but they may be a bit surprised at our poise for that game. We may lose 52-0, but it won't be because of the venue.

Both teams are well conditioned, so the heat and humidity won't be a factor, like with some, either. All in all, I think it will be LSU's talent against our game-plan. No doubt LSU is loaded with talent. But I expect (hope) we can keep it respectable. Being a board certified Homer, we might even win. Crazier things have happened.

Dr. Pepper
09-10-2007, 03:58 PM
South Carolina vs LSU

Coaching -- Gamecocks
Running Offense -- Tigers
Running Defense -- Tigers
Passing Offense -- Tigers
Passing Defense -- Tigers
Punting Game -- Tigers
Kicking Game -- Tigers
Special Teams -- TigersHmmmmmmm...

So you are saying that Carolina wins?:laugh:

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 04:00 PM
I'm not scared of this game and neither is our team. And IMO, it does no good to concede a game before it's played. Although it's unusual for us, we've played very well on the road. Spurrier doesn't hype or hide and isn't intimidated. That leadership filters down to the players too. We're not expected to win so what have we really got to lose? "It is what it is," as he always says. "Play your assignments with good fundamentals, and if the ball bounces our way, we've got a chance."

LSU will likely be #1 when we go into Death Valley. But I doubt LSU will see the same fear in our eyes that poor Henig had when he went in there in week 1. I'm sure it's a big kick for the Tigers to see opponents all wide-eyed and awe-struck by the size and volume in DV, but they may be a bit surprised at our poise for that game. We may lose 52-0, but it won't be because of the venue.

Both teams are well conditioned, so the heat and humidity won't be a factor, like with some, either. All in all, I think it will be LSU's talent against our game-plan. No doubt LSU is loaded with talent. But I expect (hope) we can keep it respectable. Being a board certified Homer, we might even win. Crazier things have happened.

LSU played @ Miss St., but VT did play in Death Valley.

GeauxTo
09-10-2007, 04:04 PM
So you are saying that Carolina wins?:laugh:

Maybe the Carolina Panthers.
:laugh:

GamecockDieHard
09-10-2007, 04:05 PM
LSU played @ Miss St., but VT did play in Death Valley.

My bad. I was thinking about Henig's comments before the game. He all but said he'd been bet-wetting prior to that game.:laugh:

GamecockDieHard
09-10-2007, 04:11 PM
South Carolina vs LSU

Coaching -- Gamecocks
Running Offense -- Tigers
Running Defense -- Tigers
Passing Offense -- Tigers
Passing Defense -- Tigers
Punting Game -- Tigers
Kicking Game -- Tigers
Special Teams -- TigersHmmmmmmm...

Your kicker has hit 3-3. The longest, a 30 yarder. The other two were 27 and 28 yards.

Succop has hit 3-4. The longest, a 41 yarder. The other two were 34 and 35 yards.

Not a big deal, but that doesn't really translate into an advantage for LSU. I wonder what else you may be missing?:laugh:

Neo
09-10-2007, 04:26 PM
Your kicker has hit 3-3. The longest, a 30 yarder. The other two were 27 and 28 yards.

Succop has hit 3-4. The longest, a 41 yarder. The other two were 34 and 35 yards.

Not a big deal, but that doesn't really translate into an advantage for LSU. I wonder what else you may be missing?:laugh:



Keep in mind that Succop also kicked a 65 yarder against Vandy last year :ohmy:

GeauxTo
09-10-2007, 04:59 PM
Your kicker has hit 3-3. The longest, a 30 yarder. The other two were 27 and 28 yards.

Succop has hit 3-4. The longest, a 41 yarder. The other two were 34 and 35 yards.

Not a big deal, but that doesn't really translate into an advantage for LSU. I wonder what else you may be missing?:laugh:

Well, some teams don't have to try as many field goals as others when they get on the opponents end of the field.
;)

GamecockDieHard
09-10-2007, 05:05 PM
Well, some teams don't have to try as many field goals as others when they get on the opponents end of the field.
;)

Well, I guess it's ok for y'all to punt from 40 yards since you can't make a FG.:wink:

lacene
09-10-2007, 06:57 PM
one game at a time....MTSU's offense does scare me
i mean is Louis's defense that bad? Louis had a great defense last year if i remember correctly
Meantime, we have a very talented Middle Tennessee offense coming in here on Saturday. How pumped do you think they will be! We've gotta take them one game at a time.

Middle Tenn. State.....hmmmmm. I seem to remember a Middle Tennessee State from last year. Can't recall the game, entirely: it seems a blur. Good luck with that.... :laugh:

GamecockDieHard
09-10-2007, 07:05 PM
Middle Tenn. State.....hmmmmm. I seem to remember a Middle Tennessee State from last year. Can't recall the game, entirely: it seems a blur. Good luck with that.... :laugh:

For those that can't remember: 2006 South Carolina 52 MTSU 7. Wow, I sure hope LSU can "hold on." Very talented. :thumpsup:

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 07:10 PM
For those that can't remember: 2006 South Carolina 52 MTSU 7. Wow, I sure hope LSU can "hold on." Very talented. :thumpsup:

Still don't want to get caught in a trap game. Can't get caught looking ahead.

LedCock
09-10-2007, 07:20 PM
South Carolina vs. LSU

Homefield advantage - LSU
Hype - LSU
Actually beaten a good team this year - USC

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 07:31 PM
South Carolina vs. LSU

Homefield advantage - LSU
Hype - LSU
Actually beaten a good team this year - USC

VT is and was ranked higher than UGA. Both UGA and VT have alot of holes in there teams. Not sure if we really know which team is better at the moment.

Roscoe
09-10-2007, 07:40 PM
VT is and was ranked higher than UGA. Both UGA and VT have alot of holes in there teams. Not sure if we really know which team is better at the moment.


I'm not sure the ranking holds a lot of water, but you're definately right, we don't know which team (UGA/VT) is better at the moment. And none of it will matter in 2 weeks time, when we send Spurrier and his girls home crying from the bayou. :blackeye:

:wave:

True Grit
09-10-2007, 08:01 PM
I dont like to be cocky, but I think LSU wins this one pretty easily.

Nine of SC's points came off FGs against a nearly total rebuilt defense. LSU's defense is much, much more experienced, talented, and faster than UGA's defense. Spurrier is a great offensive mind, but LSU's defense will simply be too much.

SC's has a good defense, but its nothing to write home about. LSU scored 48 on a very good defense of VT. Overrated defense, but still very good. If Crowton opens the playbook like he did against VT we should be able to put up at least 30 points.

Also, the game is in TS. If you think TS has been wild in the past, this year it will be louder and crazier. LSU is now the favorite by most fans and media across the country to go undefeated, win the SEC, and win the national championship. If we dont jump USC next week for #1, the fans will be even more eager for a huge win and will do everything they can to make it hard for South Carolina.

True Grit
09-10-2007, 08:03 PM
one game at a time....MTSU's offense does scare me

i mean is Louis's defense that bad? Louis had a great defense last year if i remember correctly

Yes, Louisville's defense is that bad.

True Grit
09-10-2007, 08:23 PM
1st off, VT got a W because they werent playing App. State. If they had played App. State, they would be 0-2 right now.

2nd, Being a better or even best team in the ACC is like being the hottest chick at a Jenny Craig meeting. The ACC stinks, there best teams cant hang with our sub .500 teams

USC isnt the next National Champs, but we'll test LSU like no one they have seen so far, so there's no way to know what will happen.

PS. FLA is no where near as good as everyone says. They should be very worried about coming to Carolina this, we've got your number

Are you kidding? Vt would have beat App State. VT's defense would actually be able to defend the spread(unlike Michigan) and has more speed on defense(unlike michigan). And VTs offense would have scored on App State defense. If Michigan can score on that defense, so can VT.

Gamecocks4Ever
09-10-2007, 08:24 PM
I don't know where all my Cocks are getting this attitude from just over 1 win. Yeah, I'm glad be beat UGA, but LSU is on a whole different level. I would love to beat them, but I'm not holding my breath.


If we dont jump USC next week for #1, the fans will be even more eager for a huge win and will do everything they can to make it hard for South Carolina.

As for the LSU fans hoping to be #1 headed into the game, i'm afraid that'll happen ONLY if USC losses to Nebraska. If beating VT the way you did didn't give it to you, what could you possibly do to MTSU to get it? In a word....nothing.

I have a feeling though that LSU will be #1 when it counts.

True Grit
09-10-2007, 08:27 PM
i disagree. the only game Les choked was the 05 Tenn game for not pouring it on in the second half. you'll never see him doing that again. Jimbo Fisher failed us in Aub and JaMarcus Russell in Flor. could you not say Spurrier choked vs Flor last year? why is it when other teams lose...they simply lose, but when LSU loses, it's Les Miles fault? and don't give me the talent angle, because Texas (two losses) and USC (two losses) are even more talented.

I disagree. Les has never really choked. Missing practice was what caused us to breakdown vs tennessee. College football players are creatures of habit. Their routine was extremely messed up that week. The players were distracted due to all the New Orleans refugees on campus, having family and friends sleeping at their house/apartment. If we had not been so distracted the week leading up to that game I am confident that we would have won.

True Grit
09-10-2007, 08:29 PM
I don't know where all my Cocks are getting this attitude from just over 1 win. Yeah, I'm glad be beat UGA, but LSU is on a whole different level. I would love to beat them, but I'm not holding my breath.




As for the LSU fans hoping to be #1 headed into the game, i'm afraid that'll happen ONLY if USC losses to Nebraska. If beating VT the way you did didn't give it to you, what could you possibly do to MTSU to get it? In a word....nothing.

I have a feeling though that LSU will be #1 when it counts.


I think in Nebraska keeps it close and USC plays a sloppy game we will jump them. But based off Nebraska's performance against WF I doubt that happens.

GamecockDieHard
09-10-2007, 08:33 PM
I don't know where all my Cocks are getting this attitude from just over 1 win. Yeah, I'm glad be beat UGA, but LSU is on a whole different level. I would love to beat them, but I'm not holding my breath.




As for the LSU fans hoping to be #1 headed into the game, i'm afraid that'll happen ONLY if USC losses to Nebraska. If beating VT the way you did didn't give it to you, what could you possibly do to MTSU to get it? In a word....nothing.

I have a feeling though that LSU will be #1 when it counts.


I haven't seen anyone say we'll beat LSU. So, I'm not sure what you're talking about. As far as my comments, in this thread, I merely corrected the "automatic" assumption that LSU has the best kicker. I don't think they do. I'm not predicting any win based on beating a very average (like us) Georgia team. It's not attitude. It's prelude to a game. We do this before every game. If you prefer to act like LSU can't ever lose, that's your choice. I promise I won't call you out for being a defeatist. Just leave me alone when I choose to stay in the game before it's over.

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 08:43 PM
South Carolina should be a good warm up game for the big rivalry game against Tulane. haha, jk. I'm lookin forward to it, and I think USC has a real shot at winning the east this year. The defense is really strong, but South Carolina does have a tough schedule to get through. Good Luck, except against the tigers =P

GeauxTo
09-10-2007, 09:17 PM
South Carolina vs. LSU

Homefield advantage - LSU
Hype - LSU
Actually beaten a good team this year - USC

LedCock... I know you're proud of your victory over the mediocre boys from Athens. But, this ain't Athens. And that thunder that you hear in the West is not coming from the sky; it is coming from Death Valley. Welcome, LedCock, welcome!

razorhead
09-10-2007, 09:19 PM
I know it's early and we both have a game next week before we play each other. But since we are getting some hate and bashing from people I just would like to explain why some of us are optimistic about playing LSU in 2 weeks.

LSU D vs USC O. LSU's Defense is awesome. I know that when they played Miss State that it was just the first game. But, Miss State held them off pretty decently and gave Micheal Henig plenty of time to make some good throws. He just sucks to bad to actually make them. Then he became scared to even throw a pass and croom just left him in their to roast and throw and eventual 6 int's. Which led to the romping that LSU gave them. The thing is we have a 5th year senior QB at the helm that will not make such horrible passes. Not only that but he is smart enough to read the defense and call an audible if need be. Henig could do none of that for lack of experience. I know Mitchell looked rusty a little against UGA, but I can assure you that the rust is knocked off and if we can keep from making any mistakes like we did against UGA, then our offense definitely has a chance to move the ball and score. LSU's defense didn't really start to tear Henig and the Oline a new one until the late second half when they were tired and just overwhelmed. I don't think we get into that kind of situation. Too top that off, I know everyone saw how well cory boyd and mike davis ran the ball, even when they don't get the best blocking, it's hard to bring them down. I can gaurantee you that it'll take more than 1 guy to do it. No arm tackling either please or these 2 backs will make you pay. But I am worried about Dorsey. Our Oline did great against UGA but we did allow 2 sacks and we do have 2 freshman on the line. So dorsey will get his fair share of sacks, shall I say 3 maybe 4? And that LSU secondary is no joke. It will be a lot harder to carve them up. Hell, I don't think that is even possible. Mitchell will pretty much have to play the best game of his life. He will have to be on perfect target with ever throw. even then I don't think it will be possible to avoid a INT. We have talented WR's but they have even better defensive backs with way more experience.

USC D vs LSU O. Our D played the best game ever against UGA. But I have to admit, there were some holes that were easily seen. I saw plenty of open wide outs that Stafford just didn't look to for some reason. Possibly cause he was being pressured? BINGO. LSU has a great Oline, but even given that, Our D is 3 and 4 deep. So we should all know by now that we can last an entire game, and then some. Fresh legs won't be a problem. Miss State even made it through their Oline and put some pressure on Flynn. So I think we will get in the back feild and cause some problems. I think both D's get their fair share of sacks, probably the same amount. Flynn will have to be sure who he is going to throw to, unlike henig and stafford, or he will be picked off. I'm sure our D-backs will be getting drilled more on making those catches for those INT's! PLUS, even though Flynn may complete the pass to one of those really fast WR's, say Doucet for that matter, they better hold on, cause E. COOK and those other secondary guys know how to hit somebody. I can make an arguement all day long about how I think USC has the best secondary in the SEC, but they can't slouch off at all against possibly the best Wide outs in the SEC. The Brinkley's will have to play their best game yet also. We will rely on their pass protection as well as their run stop ability. Hester an Williams are just as good a tandem as Boyd and Davis. But the running game can be stopped as we saw against Miss State. What I am worried about mainly on that LSU O is Perriloux. Yes believe it or not but the back up QB is the one I'm worried about. He steps in their and is used as a tebow like player. He is dangerous with his legs and he can throw. When LSU drives to the red zone, we'll have to be wary of perriloux as he could damage us badly.

My prediction is this will probably be the lowest scoring game this year in the SEC. You would think that LSU has the edge since the game is in the Bayou, maybe they do, but for some odd reason, South Carolina loves the road games. We play with way more passion on the road and our adrenaline pumps oh so fast. Maybe it's cause we love hear the hearts shaddering from all those fans. Either way I wouldn't give the edge to either team. So far they've given up 1 touchdown, we've given up 2. They have run the score up on their opponents while we have beaten ours soundly. But they have faced teams that have given them so many opportunities with the turnovers. They won't get those opportunities against USC. They are going to have to work for it. I'm not gonna say who will win or what the score will be. I'll make that prediction in due time.

thanks for reading and GO COCKS! I don't really care if I get flamed or not, I just wanted to share my thought process and why I think we stand a chance.

Good luck with that. Hope you win.

JerryBeeds
09-10-2007, 09:28 PM
I think we're gonna get crushed but I'm ok with that. I wrote this one off last summer.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 09:31 PM
South Carolina vs. LSU

Homefield advantage - LSU
Hype - LSU
Actually beaten a good team this year - USC

LMAO.....sure sparky

GeauxTo
09-10-2007, 09:32 PM
I think we're gonna get crushed but I'm ok with that. I wrote this one off last summer.

My man Beeds... a classy Cock!
:laugh:

JerryBeeds
09-10-2007, 09:34 PM
My man Beeds... a classy Cock!
:laugh:

Obviously I hope we win but I won't be the least bit surprised if we lose by 3 TD's or more.

Colt19114me
09-10-2007, 09:50 PM
OK..across the board, I see LSU as proven stronger..every position. (although I'll take our middle linebacker Jasper Brinkley over any other in the SEC and I'll settle for Boyd and Davis at RB's.. just wish we had LSU's OL to block for them)... But.. we have heart..and we'll give it a good shot.. who knows.. stranger things have happened.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 10:04 PM
OK..across the board, I see LSU as proven stronger..every position. (although I'll take our middle linebacker Jasper Brinkley over any other in the SEC and I'll settle for Boyd and Davis at RB's.. just wish we had LSU's OL to block for them)... But.. we have heart..and we'll give it a good shot.. who knows.. stranger things have happened.

although i love derry beckwith, he's no jasper brinkley. but i'd keep our RBs. i think Keiland Williams is gonna have a breakout year

Cocky1
09-10-2007, 10:07 PM
This is how I feel abouth this year's Carolina Gamecocks.It is a little biased but hey here goes. #17 in the AP Poll this week!! We jumped #20 Clemsux and # 22 UT! Our defense rocks. The running game will be a force. The passing attack will surely improve with the offensive line gelling and Blake getting back into the swing of things. Got a good game next weekend. Not really looking forward to LSU but hell who is? After that though the schedule opens up nicely and we will be 7-1, and if I look through my garnet tinted glasses just right 8-0, going into the game with UT. Things are lookin up. Way up.
IT"S GREAT TO BE A CAROLINA GAMECOCK!!!

uscgamecock
09-10-2007, 10:31 PM
South Carolina vs LSU

Coaching -- Gamecocks
Running Offense -- Tigers
Running Defense -- Tigers
Passing Offense -- Tigers
Passing Defense -- Tigers
Punting Game -- Tigers
Kicking Game -- Tigers
Special Teams -- TigersHmmmmmmm...

how so...
ryan succop is probably the best kicker and punter in the nation.... at least the sec...

C@cksF@n4life
09-11-2007, 03:44 AM
I don't know where all my Cocks are getting this attitude from just over 1 win. Yeah, I'm glad be beat UGA, but LSU is on a whole different level. I would love to beat them, but I'm not holding my breath.




As for the LSU fans hoping to be #1 headed into the game, i'm afraid that'll happen ONLY if USC losses to Nebraska. If beating VT the way you did didn't give it to you, what could you possibly do to MTSU to get it? In a word....nothing.

I have a feeling though that LSU will be #1 when it counts.

I have to agree with u on this one. LSU is a very, very good team and SC has to play them in DV which is no easy task. There is one thing that I have learned about the SEC over the years, and that is what I'm considering going into that game.. Any team in the SEC can fall to another SEC opponet. I'm hoping and praying that SC can go in there and come out with a win. If not a win just some respect from the rest of the league. One thing that I have no doubt about is that SC will come in there ready to play. I just hope they play up to their potential and when the smoke is settled we will see what happens.

bmwparts
09-11-2007, 08:24 AM
South Carolina vs LSU

Coaching -- Gamecocks
Running Offense -- Tigers
Running Defense -- Tigers
Passing Offense -- Tigers
Passing Defense -- Tigers
Punting Game -- Tigers
Kicking Game -- Tigers
Special Teams -- TigersHmmmmmmm...



lol!!!

RUNNING.....funny how everybody over-looks Boyd and Davis, and funny how they cant be stopped, i think they are as good as any duo, they might not have as mush speed but they will run over you.

PASSING OF....like another member said when Blake is on...LOOK OUT...because since he got the start back last year he's been awesome, and you better expect to see a better performance because the Ga game he had some rust and it was gone after the 1st half, and trust me that we will use the sc state game as a practice game for our offense's big plays,etc

COACHING....spurrier!!!!!!!!!enough said!!!


KICKING..........we have one of the best, if not the best kicker in the country.

Defense..........you might have us, but not by much!!!!!

O-line........yours is better.

not saying were gonna win, but im gonna expect us to, and i know lsu is a aweosme football team, and all im saying is go ahead and sleep on the gamecocks and see what happens!

Gator2753
09-11-2007, 08:27 AM
how so...
ryan succop is probably the best kicker and punter in the nation.... at least the sec...

I agree.Succop is the best kicker around. Accurate and good distance as well.

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 09:05 AM
I'd take our freshman punter over yours any day of the week and twice on saturday

bmwparts
09-11-2007, 09:53 AM
Lol........lol..............lol.............lol

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 10:10 AM
Lol........lol..............lol.............lol

what's so funny?

my boy is #28...where's your boy?

SI.com - College Football - Division - Punting Leaders (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/stats/2007/divia/individual/punting_byPUNT_YDS_AVG.html)

i believe we've found that Cock fan GatorChomp was talking about right here

GAMECOCK_FAN
09-11-2007, 10:12 AM
South Carolina vs LSU

Coaching -- Gamecocks
Running Offense -- Tigers
Running Defense -- Tigers
Passing Offense -- Tigers
Passing Defense -- Tigers
Punting Game -- Tigers
Kicking Game -- Tigers
Special Teams -- TigersHmmmmmmm...
You left off one that probably won't have too much of an impact.....

Gay kissing fans in the stands -- Tigers :laugh:

Zee
09-11-2007, 10:13 AM
Here's a start

Lou Groza Collegiate Place-Kicker Award (http://www.lougrozaaward.com/Candidates/TopThree2006/succopbio.htm)

Edit: you're talking about just punting, Succop does both so I don't think we are really arguing about anything.

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 10:15 AM
Here's a start

Lou Groza Collegiate Place-Kicker Award (http://www.lougrozaaward.com/Candidates/TopThree2006/succopbio.htm)

Edit: you're talking about just punting, Succop does both so I don't think we are really arguing about anything.

is place-kicking the same as PUNTING? i think there's a difference

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 10:16 AM
You left off one that probably won't have too much of an impact.....

Gay kissing fans in the stands -- Tigers :laugh:

wow...that's about as good as Cock jokes:thumbsdow

Zee
09-11-2007, 10:18 AM
can you not read?

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 10:21 AM
can you not read?

i read fine...i don't know how that edit got in my post. that wasn't there when i replied

Zee
09-11-2007, 10:23 AM
2007 (Junior): One of the top returning placekickers in collegiate football who should be on the pre-season Lou Groza Watch list... strong-legged junior who handles all three kicking chores: kickoffs, punts and placements for the Gamecocks... earned second-team All-SEC honors in 2006 as selected by the league's coaches... was a semi-finalist for the Lou Groza Award, which honors the nation's top placekicker... connected on 16-of-20 of his field goal attempts... his 80.0 percent accuracy was fourth in the SEC... actually only missed two - a 51-yarder that hit the left upright against Georgia and a 33-yarder against Houston in the Liberty Bowl... other two misses were blocked... was 10-for-11 from inside 47 yards... booted a 50-yarder against Tennessee and a career-high 55-yarder against Vanderbilt... it was the second longest field goal in school history... also had a 55-yarder taken off the board against Florida due to a penalty... averaged 42.8 yards per field goal attempt and 40.1 yards per field goal made... connected on 37-of-39 extra points for 85 points overall... his 85 points led the team and was the third-highest single-season total in school history... averaged 6.5 points per game, fourth in the SEC and the third-highest mark among kickers... 29 of 73 kickoff attempts (40 percent) were touchbacks... averaged 43.7 yards per punt, which would have ranked third in the SEC with enough punts to qualify... was the SEC Special Teams Player of the Week for his efforts against Mississippi State when he connected on all three of his field goal attempts (39, 35 and 47 yards) and punted six times for a 48.7 yard average, including a net of 47.8 yards... also averted a certain blocked punt and scrambled 16 yards for a first down, leading to a USC score.

There are some punting stats from last year. Just punting, his stats are good but not spectacular. But all around he dominates.

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 10:24 AM
geez...i was only talking about punting

sorry i touched a nerve

Zee
09-11-2007, 10:31 AM
South Carolina fans rarely get to brag on their kickers, now that we have a good one we REALLY appreciate it.

GAMECOCK_FAN
09-11-2007, 10:33 AM
wow...that's about as good as Cock jokes:thumbsdow
geez...i was only talking about the two guys in the stands last year after LSU won a big game

sorry i touched a nerve

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 10:41 AM
geez...i was only talking about the two guys in the stands last year after LSU won a big game

sorry i touched a nerve

it was two years ago and it's gotten stale:thumbsdow

uscrules
09-11-2007, 10:50 AM
If bragging and putting other teams down will win every game for you LSU guys, then you have absolutely nothing to worry about. You are the best at that. We here as Gamecock fans, are not saying we will win. We are very proud of our team and our win over Georgia. One win does not make you a good team, but we are 1-0 in the East and that is very important. If we suck (according to Geaux, we were the next to worse team in the SEC last week) and can still win, then we are either very lucky or possibly somebody is doing something right. Never count out Steve Spurrier. But I don't think the fact that we are playing there helps you any. We are a very good road team and have actually won there before.

GAMECOCK_FAN
09-11-2007, 11:16 AM
it was two years ago and it's gotten stale:thumbsdow
Actually, it's one day short of 1 year 10 months ago.....but, who's counting. :laugh:

And yes, I had to look it up.

Oh, and I'll save you the trouble. :thumbsdow

ThatGuy
09-11-2007, 11:25 AM
My short opinion

unless a miracle happens...LSU wins this by 21+

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 11:28 AM
If bragging and putting other teams down will win every game for you LSU guys, then you have absolutely nothing to worry about. You are the best at that. We here as Gamecock fans, are not saying we will win. We are very proud of our team and our win over Georgia. One win does not make you a good team, but we are 1-0 in the East and that is very important. If we suck (according to Geaux, we were the next to worse team in the SEC last week) and can still win, then we are either very lucky or possibly somebody is doing something right. Never count out Steve Spurrier. But I don't think the fact that we are playing there helps you any. We are a very good road team and have actually won there before.

good lord...i just said i like our punter

you guys are too sensitive

ThatGuy
09-11-2007, 11:35 AM
How long do you get to hold onto being poster of the month?

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 11:37 AM
How long do you get to hold onto being poster of the month?

i wouldn't worry about you ever being Poster of the Month:laugh:

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 11:38 AM
Actually, it's one day short of 1 year 10 months ago.....but, who's counting. :laugh:

And yes, I had to look it up.

Oh, and I'll save you the trouble. :thumbsdow

sorry...i did get a little pissy

lacene
09-11-2007, 11:41 AM
How long do you get to hold onto being poster of the month?

for that particular month you won, I guess forever. But there should be monthly winners, I guess. The award is predicated on members starting up polls to vote for a winner....I guess no one is interested in starting another poll....

ThatGuy
09-11-2007, 11:51 AM
for that particular month you won, I guess forever. But there should be monthly winners, I guess. The award is predicated on members starting up polls to vote for a winner....I guess no one is interested in starting another poll....

Hell, I'd vote for you then

ThatGuy
09-11-2007, 11:52 AM
sorry...i did get a little pissy

that time of month?

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 11:54 AM
that time of month?

yep....i'm getting my flare-ups

lacene
09-11-2007, 11:55 AM
Hell, I'd vote for you then


you'd be the only one....

GAMECOCK_FAN
09-11-2007, 11:57 AM
sorry...i did get a little pissy
And I apologize as well. It was purely intended to be a joke, and you're right. I used "old" material that has been used too many times already.

Now, back to predictions and discussion on the LSU/SC game. Usually, I refrain from predicting outcomes on games almost two weeks away, but since it's kind of hard to get excited about my Gamecocks playing SC State and LSU playing Middle Tennessee, I'll go ahead and make my prediction. I picked LSU to win the SEC prior to the season starting, so even with my Gamecocks good showing against UGA, I'd be hard-pressed to pick SC over LSU. I'm going to say LSU by 2 TDs....LSU 27 SC 13

As with the SC/UGA game, here's hoping I'm wrong on the outcome of this one.

GeauxTo
09-11-2007, 12:03 PM
This will bolster you Cocks...

LSU is something like 14-2 against South Carolina
LSU is something like 1-11 against Spurrier

GTmorris1970
09-11-2007, 12:47 PM
For you faint of heart Gamecock fans who think it's over before it's played, here are some thoughts. You obviously have not paid much attention to your head coach as of yet. But you will come around eventually.

1. Let's start with summer shall we? Carolina has one of the best strength conditioning coaches around in Mark Smith. We had not one player miss practice from heat exhaustion during pre-season, with over half the month of August over 100 degrees. Why? This team is in shape. In better shape according to Spurrier than ANY Carolina team that has ever taken the field.

2. Week one against ULL-Spurrier, without mentioning UGA one time, knew what was ahead. He played a lot of players, and ran a total of 15 different plays during the game. He simply ran the same plays out of different formations. The defense did not blitz ONE time. He ran basic defenses and did just enough to win the game. Why? Spurrier has changed. He realizes the SEC is no longer the same, and that good defense and a solid running game are key to going to Atlanta now. Instead of sticking to his old ways like Holtz, he has adjusted his coaching to the game and his talent at this time. He has two of the best running backs around, and he doesn't mind using them. They are using the same style defense as last year, but with better talent. Bend but don't break. Hold em to field goals. Spurrier can use the media better than any coach I have ever witnessed. Let's talk about that and go to week 2.

3. USC-Georgia- Spurrier complained all week about the team being a "bunch of stiffs". This team can't block, tackle, run, catch, throw, nothing. The UGA fans, football team and Atlanta media were eating it up. What they didn't realize was SPURRIER WAS TOO!! He had baited the hook, thrown it in the water, and waiting for the bite. By Tuesday of game week, the Atlanta Journal Constitution was attending almost every practice, and the articles of what they would do to Spurrier were abound. They had bitten. The fans had as well. Now had the football team. Spurrier walked into Sanford Stadium on Saturday with a smile, basking in the late afternoon sunshine. It was the moment he had been waiting for. Shut some people up. He loves nothing more. As the whistle blew, his ambush began. He has learned the score does not matter, but enough W's will send you to the promise land. As the clock his zero's Saturday, he is in perfect position, and with UGA's youth, has all but ended their season. They taunted him at he half as he ran to the tunnel, and he smiled and waved at them. What he was doing to them, although the score was close, they knew on this day they would not stop, and it was torturing them. How could Carolina be leading them at the half? Because Spurrier had baited and ambushed them, and as he said before week 1, the game is on. Almost every sports writer around Atlanta was shocked at Carolina's size, speed, and quickness. They were expecting the same ole set of Cocks.

GTmorris1970
09-11-2007, 01:01 PM
4. Ok. Now we enter week 3 before the showdown. SC State. Spurrier is starting up again. "This is a good team we cannot take lighty". Is there some truth to that? Of course. You never take anyone lightly. Especially this year. What should you expect? Another ULL with a little more of a point spread. Mitchell became a leader in the second half of last week. Spurrier will likely get him some time, and get him tuned up for next week. Spurrier is also thinking of moving big Kenrick to the OL. Is that so he can beat SC State? If you believe that, it's ok. :thumpsup: It will be a vanilla gameplan with probably a lot more of the freshmen getting playing time. He may try to put up some additional points this week however. We will see. Maddox will probably get some touches at RB. This team is extremely healthy right now. Why? Goes back to number 1. Mark Smith. Here we go to next LSU week.

5. Will be interesting to hear what he comes up with for this one. I have learned to not make predictions, at least on score. I think it will be a close, hard fought dog fight. For me, one thing I have learned in the last 2 years is Steve Spurrier is a force to be reckoned with every time he walks on a sideline. He sweats confidence, and it rubs off on the team. The last two years he has pulled off some, and almost pulled off some major upsets with MUCH less talent than opponents. That tells me what a game day coach he really is. Now the talent gap has narrowed, and that is what has many around the SEC very concerned. There is no shame if this one does not go our way. Just at least keep it close, and make it respectable. I will say this. The UGA win would be nothing compared to this one, and Spurrier knows that. This one would shut everyone up, and almost make the earth shake. He loves when the earth shakes.

GeauxTo
09-11-2007, 02:24 PM
Steve Spurrier is a force to be reckoned with every time he walks on a sideline.

That is absolutely true.

Ralliartist
09-11-2007, 09:07 PM
Great posts GTMORRIS!!!!!

Poppycock
09-11-2007, 11:33 PM
"what's so funny?

my boy is #28...where's your boy?"

Sept. 10, 2007


University of South Carolina kicker Ryan Succop has been selected as the SEC Special Teams Player of the Week for his performance in the Gamecocks' 16-12 win at 11th-ranked Georgia on Saturday.

Succop, a 6-2, 214-pound junior from Hickory, N.C., was perfect on all three of his field goal attempts, matching his career high, and averaged 40.7 yards on seven punts. His field goals came from 41, 35 and 34 yards out, as he accounted for 10 of Carolina's 16 points in the contest. On his seven punts, two were inside the 20-yard line, with a long of 52 yards. He also had one touchback on five kickoffs, while the Bulldogs average starting position from the kickoffs was its own 30-yard line.

It is the second time that Succop has earned the award during his career at South Carolina. He garnered similar acclaim after the 2006 season opener when he connected on all three of his field goal attempts and punted six times for a 48.7-yard average in a 15-0 win at Mississippi State.

Succop Named SEC Special Teams Player of the Week :: South Carolina Kicker Honored for Second Time in His Career (http://gamecocksonline.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091007aab.html)

TigerJunkie420
09-12-2007, 12:53 AM
South Carolina makes it closer than most think. But LSU still wins by three touchdowns late.

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 08:31 AM
"what's so funny?

my boy is #28...where's your boy?"

Sept. 10, 2007


University of South Carolina kicker Ryan Succop has been selected as the SEC Special Teams Player of the Week for his performance in the Gamecocks' 16-12 win at 11th-ranked Georgia on Saturday.

Succop, a 6-2, 214-pound junior from Hickory, N.C., was perfect on all three of his field goal attempts, matching his career high, and averaged 40.7 yards on seven punts. His field goals came from 41, 35 and 34 yards out, as he accounted for 10 of Carolina's 16 points in the contest. On his seven punts, two were inside the 20-yard line, with a long of 52 yards. He also had one touchback on five kickoffs, while the Bulldogs average starting position from the kickoffs was its own 30-yard line.

It is the second time that Succop has earned the award during his career at South Carolina. He garnered similar acclaim after the 2006 season opener when he connected on all three of his field goal attempts and punted six times for a 48.7-yard average in a 15-0 win at Mississippi State.

Succop Named SEC Special Teams Player of the Week :: South Carolina Kicker Honored for Second Time in His Career (http://gamecocksonline.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/091007aab.html)

why is it so hard for SCarl fans to admit LSU has a better PUNTER? I never mentioned FG kicking. Patrick Fisher averages more a punt....is that so frigging hard to admit? geez...you guys are getting as bad as Arky fans

uscrules
09-12-2007, 08:48 AM
Punting average is overated. Succop kicked the ball out of bounds two times and this is not something that helps your average, but is very important as a punter. Usually if your punter is kicking for a big average, the offense is not moving the ball and he has a long field to work with. The most important thing to look at is how far and high can he kick it when the team needs it.

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 08:52 AM
Punting average is overated. Succop kicked the ball out of bounds two times and this is not something that helps your average, but is very important as a punter. Usually if your punter is kicking for a big average, the offense is not moving the ball and he has a long field to work with. The most important thing to look at is how far and high can he kick it when the team needs it.

fine you win....SCarl is best at everything. it never meant that much to me. who gives a crap about punting...it was a joke

boy...u guys took an off-handed comment and ran with it like i slapped your mama

lacene
09-12-2007, 10:53 AM
why is it so hard for SCarl fans to admit LSU has a better PUNTER? I never mentioned FG kicking. Patrick Fisher averages more a punt....is that so frigging hard to admit? geez...you guys are getting as bad as Arky fans

LSU's punter has the better average after 2 games, but that may not mean much when the season ends. Succop was 3rd in the SEC last season (as MANY here have posted), so he will most likely improve on his average. Or, maybe not. But after 2 games, LSU's Punter does have a better average than USC's Punter, for what it's worth....

GTTiger
09-12-2007, 10:59 AM
Here is an interesting stat....

South Carolina has given up 192 yards RUSHING/game

LSU has rushed for 247.5 yards/game

South Carolina did have to face UGA's run offense, but LSU had to face VT's run defense. South Carolina will definitly have to improve that statistic to have a prayer.

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 11:05 AM
Here is an interesting stat....

South Carolina has given up 192 yards RUSHING/game

LSU has rushed for 247.5 yards/game

South Carolina did have to face UGA's run offense, but LSU had to face VT's run defense. South Carolina will definitly have to improve that statistic to have a prayer.

you're about to hear how great UGA's run offense is and how over-rated VT's run offense is....watch out!

GTTiger
09-12-2007, 11:08 AM
you're about to hear how great UGA's run offense is and how over-rated VT's run offense is....watch out!

you meant VT's run defense =P

Whether VT is overrated or not, there run defense is thier strength. And I'm guessing by the stats, that La Lafeyette had alot of rushing yards against USC also.

UGA had about 70 yards rushing against VT in the bowl game last year and UGA had a much better O-Line then.

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 11:14 AM
you meant VT's run defense =P



that's what i meant ...dammit:laugh:

scfan5338
09-12-2007, 11:25 AM
Why the heck are USC fans saying LSU hasn't played anyone???? We you guys stupid?? I mean come on. They played a very talented VT. Because they struggled against East Carolina and lost to LSU all of a sudden they are a horrible team??? VT had I think the #1 ranked defense last year and didnt lose any players. They return a very talented running back in Ore. They are starting off slowing this year but they are a great team. They were ranked high than UGA whom we beat. So if you are going to say they haven't beaten anyone, you can't say we have beaten anyone either. They smoked MSU while we struggled with ULL, and many say Spurrier held back because he didnt wanna give any plays away? He didnt do anything special against UGAy either.

uscrules
09-12-2007, 11:29 AM
With the QB's we played against LA-La that was about all the offense that we could give them. I would not say that LSU has not played anyone but I don't think there is anyone assoicated with LSU that would rather go to Georgia and play vs playing VT at home. Both are good teams and both will be in the top 25 at years end.

GTTiger
09-12-2007, 11:34 AM
The disturbing part of South Carolina's defense is the 252 yards rushing given up to ULL. I understand that ULL has a different type of offensive game plan, but I really would expect better from South Carolina's defense.

GTmorris1970
09-12-2007, 12:05 PM
The disturbing part of South Carolina's defense is the 252 yards rushing given up to ULL. I understand that ULL has a different type of offensive game plan, but I really would expect better from South Carolina's defense.

For whatever reason, that type run offense always gets the best of Carolina. Wofford's did the same thing. Carolina plays much better defense against 'conventional' type offenses.

uscrules
09-12-2007, 12:31 PM
Granted we should have played better against their run, however, We played a lot of young guys. Also, I think you have to give La-La a little credit, they were the 11th best rushing team in the nation last year and they returned a lot of that team. I am not saying they are great but some of the credit has to be given to them.

True Grit
09-12-2007, 12:40 PM
lol!!!

RUNNING.....funny how everybody over-looks Boyd and Davis, and funny how they cant be stopped, i think they are as good as any duo, they might not have as mush speed but they will run over you.

PASSING OF....like another member said when Blake is on...LOOK OUT...because since he got the start back last year he's been awesome, and you better expect to see a better performance because the Ga game he had some rust and it was gone after the 1st half, and trust me that we will use the sc state game as a practice game for our offense's big plays,etc

COACHING....spurrier!!!!!!!!!enough said!!!


KICKING..........we have one of the best, if not the best kicker in the country.

Defense..........you might have us, but not by much!!!!!

O-line........yours is better.

not saying were gonna win, but im gonna expect us to, and i know lsu is a aweosme football team, and all im saying is go ahead and sleep on the gamecocks and see what happens!

No, our running game is better. Better RBs and better oline blocking for them.

We not have only one QB that is better than Blake, but two.

Spurrier might be a better HC but our coaching staff is better by far.

Defense- We have you by a lot.

ST- You may have a very good kicker but ours is no slouch. Neither is our punter. And look at who is returning kicks and punts for us.

True Grit
09-12-2007, 12:44 PM
1. Let's start with summer shall we? Carolina has one of the best strength conditioning coaches around in Mark Smith. We had not one player miss practice from heat exhaustion during pre-season, with over half the month of August over 100 degrees. Why? This team is in shape. In better shape according to Spurrier than ANY Carolina team that has ever taken the field.

And LSU's strength coach won Strength Coach of the Year lst season. Every where he has gone NCs have followed- Miami, Tennessee, and LSU. He is considered THE BEST s&c coach in the country.

GTmorris1970
09-12-2007, 01:28 PM
No, our running game is better. Better RBs and better oline blocking for them.

We not have only one QB that is better than Blake, but two.

Spurrier might be a better HC but our coaching staff is better by far.

Defense- We have you by a lot.

ST- You may have a very good kicker but ours is no slouch. Neither is our punter. And look at who is returning kicks and punts for us.

RB-We have two of the best around, and even the 'experts' are finally starting to see it.

QB- Perhaps you should go back and look at some stats towards the end of last year.

Coaches- Steve Spurrier Jr. has coached some of the best receivers around, has more NC rings than his dad, and many of his receivers have had much success in the NFL. Please name without looking some of our other coaches since you know so much about them.

Defense- Yours is better, but not by much. Experience is your main benefit. We do have the best MLB in the SEC.

ST-Succop is as good as anyone, and I personally don't care about punt yardage. He puts em where they need to go.

GeauxTo
09-12-2007, 01:30 PM
Hey Gamecocks...

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/GeauxTo/stfu.gif

GTmorris1970
09-12-2007, 01:30 PM
And Mark Smith has been with Spurrier for a long time. Spurrier's teams have always been strong in the fourth quarter, much of that a credit to Smith. I will keep him thank you. For all these superstars LSU has, as I have ask before. Where are the SEC rings. It's either coaching or lack of talent. Which is it? Before you ask, much of ours over the years has been lack of talent, and at times coaching.

GTmorris1970
09-12-2007, 01:31 PM
People on the bayou aren't flinching a bit, are they? :wave:

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 02:01 PM
i'll worry bout the gamecocks next week...lol

where are the blue raider fans?

GTTiger
09-12-2007, 02:54 PM
Stats:

Team: LSU USC
Scoring 46.5 22.0
YPG 483.0 383.5
Rushing 247.5 167.5
Passing 225 206

Defense LSU USC
Point/GM 3.5 13.0
Yards/GM 147.5 328.0
Rush ypg 40.5 190.0
Pass ypg 107.0 138.0
Interc 7 1

GatorChomp
09-12-2007, 03:37 PM
Stats:

Team: LSU USC
Scoring 46.5 22.0
YPG 483.0 383.5
Rushing 247.5 167.5
Passing 225 206

Defense LSU USC
Point/GM 3.5 13.0
Yards/GM 147.5 328.0
Rush ypg 40.5 190.0
Pass ypg 107.0 138.0
Interc 7 1
That is close! What are you talking about? LSU hasn't played anyone, but SC has beaten the Georgia Bulldogs.

[/sarcasm]

GeauxTo
09-12-2007, 03:55 PM
People on the bayou aren't flinching a bit, are they? :wave:

Oh, I get it. You're trying to scare us.
:rolleyes: :headshake

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 03:57 PM
That is close! What are you talking about? LSU hasn't played anyone, but SC has beaten the Georgia Bulldogs.

[/sarcasm]

*streaks through thread*

GTTiger
09-12-2007, 03:58 PM
*streaks through thread*

you changed your post! lamo

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 03:58 PM
he was bein sarcastic

i know:thumpsup:

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 03:59 PM
you changed your post! lamo

:laugh: :laugh:

Zee
09-12-2007, 04:47 PM
y'all think you could switch with Auburn this year? I mean the whole 2 year rotation thing is more of a guideline anyway right? I'm not saying I don't want to play you, just not this year...

True Grit
09-12-2007, 04:54 PM
RB-We have two of the best around, and even the 'experts' are finally starting to see it.

QB- Perhaps you should go back and look at some stats towards the end of last year.

Coaches- Steve Spurrier Jr. has coached some of the best receivers around, has more NC rings than his dad, and many of his receivers have had much success in the NFL. Please name without looking some of our other coaches since you know so much about them.

Defense- Yours is better, but not by much. Experience is your main benefit. We do have the best MLB in the SEC.

ST-Succop is as good as anyone, and I personally don't care about punt yardage. He puts em where they need to go.

YOur backs are good, but its not like they are amazing. Our RBS are just as good and we have a better oline.

QB- I'll take Flynn and Perrilloux anyday.

Coaches- Both of our coordinators are considered the best in the country. All of our position coaches are considered some of the best in the country also.

Defese- No, ours is much, much better.

Special Teams- There is more to ST than a kicker.

True Grit
09-12-2007, 05:03 PM
And Mark Smith has been with Spurrier for a long time. Spurrier's teams have always been strong in the fourth quarter, much of that a credit to Smith. I will keep him thank you. For all these superstars LSU has, as I have ask before. Where are the SEC rings. It's either coaching or lack of talent. Which is it? Before you ask, much of ours over the years has been lack of talent, and at times coaching.

So what. Tommy Moffitt is considered by most the best S&C coach in CFB. I suggest you read up on him.

2theadvocate.com - Hatching a champion 12/26/03 (http://www.gaylehatch.com/HatchingAChampion.htm)

GTmorris1970
09-13-2007, 03:05 PM
So what. Tommy Moffitt is considered by most the best S&C coach in CFB. I suggest you read up on him.

2theadvocate.com - Hatching a champion 12/26/03 (http://www.gaylehatch.com/HatchingAChampion.htm)

So what? We have a healthy, well conditioned team that can play four quarters. Haven't had that in a long time around here. I personally don't caree who LSU has, so please don't 'suggest' I do anything. I am a Carolina fan. I cover Carolina. I have no idea who LSU has. I just know every year they are supposed to win it all, and never even show up in Atlanta.

GTmorris1970
09-13-2007, 03:06 PM
y'all think you could switch with Auburn this year? I mean the whole 2 year rotation thing is more of a guideline anyway right? I'm not saying I don't want to play you, just not this year...

R u really a Carolina fan? Really?

The Ramp
09-13-2007, 03:06 PM
So what? We have a healthy, well conditioned team that can play four quarters. Haven't had that in a long time around here. I personally don't caree who LSU has, so please don't 'suggest' I do anything. I am a Carolina fan. I cover Carolina. I have no idea who LSU has. I just know every year they are supposed to win it all, and never even show up in Atlanta.

we were in atlanta two years ago:wacko:

Zee
09-13-2007, 03:20 PM
R u really a Carolina fan? Really?

lighten up

GeauxTo
09-13-2007, 03:27 PM
and never even show up in Atlanta.

Picky, picky, picky.:laugh:

scfan5338
09-13-2007, 04:04 PM
i'll worry bout the gamecocks next week...lol

where are the blue raider fans?

right here...blue raider nation lol. I dont really like them at all, but I do like the coach. He was a former usc recruting coordinator and he's a pretty good coach.

The Ramp
09-13-2007, 04:19 PM
right here...blue raider nation lol. I dont really like them at all, but I do like the coach. He was a former usc recruting coordinator and h