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UAdan
09-09-2007, 07:26 PM
September 15th, 2007
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Bryant-Denny Stadium
Kickoff: 5:45 PM on ESPN

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I cannot think of another annual SEC matchup on either Alabama or Arkansas's schedule that always seems to greatly influence how the rest of the season plays out than the battle of the UA's itself. Because this game traditionally takes place early in the season, it almost always is a defining moment for both the Tide and the Hogs. The winner has used this game as a stepping stone, launching them to a successful SEC slate. The loser seems to feel the effects of this game for the remainder of the season. Take a look at some of the recent games:

2002: - Shaud Williams exploded through the Arkansas secondary on the first play from scrimmage for an 80-yard TD run, silencing the Hog faithful. Brodie Croyle, making his first career start, played well, and the Tide rolled 30-14.

End Result: While Arkansas didn't have that bad of a year, Alabama ended up better off at 10-2, and finished with the best record in the SEC West (although the Tide couldn't go to Atlanta due to NCAA sanctions)

2003: - After a pile-driving rainstorm delayed the game, Alabama jumped out to a commanding 31-10 lead in the 3rd quarter and appeared to have the game in cruise control. The Razorbacks miraculously fought back, scoring 21 unanswered points in the final quarter and a half and tied the game up at 31-31 with under a minute left in regulation. The Hogs won in double-overtime on a game-winning field goal, 34-31.

End Result: The Hogs finished at 9-4, capping their season off with a win over Missouri in the Independence Bowl. Alabama stumbled their way to a brutal 4-9 season.

2005: - A defensive battle for most of the game, Juwan Simpson's crucial interception led to DJ Hall's touchdown catch that sealed the deal for Bama's close win at home over the Razorbacks, 24-13.

End Result: Alabama had a wonderful season, ending out at 10-2 and Cotton Bowl champs. Arkansas finished a poor 4-7.

2006: - Alabama looked to be in a good position to win the game in Fayetteville, but Leigh Tiffin failed to make two field goals that would have been the go-ahead and potential game-winners for the Tide. In the second overtime, Alabama scored on a TD to Nick Walker, but Tiffin, in a nightmarish reoccurance, missed the extra-point. Arkansas then scored on a touchdown pass to Ben Cleveland. Jeremy Davis's extra-point was true, giving the Hogs the win as the crowd erupted with cheers. Arkansas 24, Bama 23.

End Result: Arkansas shocked the country by steamrolling through the SEC schedule, beating the likes of Auburn, South Carolina, and Tennessee, making it to Atlanta for the SEC Title game. The Hogs finished at 10-4. Alabama's heartbreaking loss to Arkansas led to the demise of the Mike Shula era as the Tide never recovered, limping their way to an embarrassing 6-7 season.

What happens this year? Time will tell, but one thing is for certain: This is an extremely crucial game for both teams.

It always is.

razorhead
09-09-2007, 07:51 PM
No doubt. This game is the UF/TN of the west. An early matchup of good teams that pretty much kills one teams SEC hopes. Should be a good game. Bama looks 100% better under Saban. I was hoping it would take him a couple of years.

Blake~BamaFan
09-09-2007, 08:11 PM
Yea it will be a good game for both teams, but if bama wants to win, they are going to have to practice on D to stop Arky's running gm.

Sabanocchio
09-09-2007, 08:13 PM
If Bama wants to win, they should play Vandy again.

shk999
09-09-2007, 08:16 PM
If Bama wants to win, they should play Vandy again.


Settle down there "Southern Miss". :laugh: Who does UT play this weekend? :unsure:

Sabanocchio
09-09-2007, 08:18 PM
Yeah, I know, we won't be the only SEC team to lose next week.

Big-Al
09-09-2007, 09:04 PM
This game is going to be awesome I cant wait to watch:thumpsup:

M2J
09-09-2007, 09:25 PM
Yeah its a huge game, both teams have question marks and pretty much they should be answered on Saturday. As both teams surely will be opening their playbooks up.

The game should answer how good Bama's offense really is, and will JPW get back into form. If the Hogs defense has enough components to compete in the West. How versatile the Hogs offense is or are they one-dimensional, and if Bama can stop the run, though that will be a bit skewed considering who they have running against them, but they have to step up.

And it should be a good game, I just hope it doesn't come down to a kick, just a all out route by Bama.

UA0509
09-09-2007, 09:32 PM
for the good news, terry grant looked good.

he had 173 yards against vandy last week. the bad part was, i was at the game, and didn't even realize he had that many until i checked the stats later. coffee had close to 60. so, we actually have a running game this year

Chivas
09-09-2007, 09:34 PM
There's not a game on our schedule that worries me more than this one, and it's because of what UAdan just said. Either we win and have a great year, or we lose and have a bad one. Why does it have to be in Tuscaloosa? :(

Nick Hull
09-09-2007, 09:57 PM
I'm definitely looking forward to this game. I saw earlier today that it was this week and knew it would be major for the division.

TDArkansasOhmy
09-09-2007, 10:25 PM
Nice post Dan, very good observations. Well done.

UAdan
09-10-2007, 12:17 AM
Thanks for all the replies, everyone :thumpsup: :thumpsup: :thumpsup:

Yeah its a huge game, both teams have question marks and pretty much they should be answered on Saturday. As both teams surely will be opening their playbooks up.

The game should answer how good Bama's offense really is, and will JPW get back into form. If the Hogs defense has enough components to compete in the West. How versatile the Hogs offense is or are they one-dimensional, and if Bama can stop the run, though that will be a bit skewed considering who they have running against them, but they have to step up.

And it should be a good game, I just hope it doesn't come down to a kick, just a all out route by Bama.

You make a lot of great points there. Both Alabama and Arkansas will really try to find an identity this Saturday. So far, we haven't seen enough from either team to answer a lot of the questions out there. Both teams have a lot to prove, and they only have 60 minutes on the field to prove it.

I think while both teams would like to get better production from their QB's, the Hogs and the Tide are also going to try to control the line of scrimmage and establish a strong running game. The offensive and defensive lines will play a major role, I think. I expect an old-fashioned, physical SEC slugfest. :thumpsup:

M2J
09-10-2007, 01:13 AM
Thanks for all the replies, everyone :thumpsup: :thumpsup: :thumpsup:



You make a lot of great points there. Both Alabama and Arkansas will really try to find an identity this Saturday. So far, we haven't seen enough from either team to answer a lot of the questions out there. Both teams have a lot to prove, and they only have 60 minutes on the field to prove it.

I think while both teams would like to get better production from their QB's, the Hogs and the Tide are also going to try to control the line of scrimmage and establish a strong running game. The offensive and defensive lines will play a major role, I think. I expect an old-fashioned, physical SEC slugfest. :thumpsup:


Agreed, Arkansas will definately be trying to run it down our throats, and hopefully we can neautralize their running attack without devoting too much attention to it and giving up a huge play in the air.

Best thing we can do is try to balance our attack, but we should try and expose their secondary, as I think you can throw the ball on them and we have the weapons to do it. And if we can jump on them early, we could force them to throw the ball, and try to force turnovers and control the clock with our rejuvenated running game. But I'd be really disappointed if JP doesn't have a big game, especially if its a close game

redback65
09-10-2007, 03:34 AM
Good Post Dan, Very Well Said

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 03:52 AM
If Bama wants to win, they should play Vandy again.

Vandy is a good team, and time will show that to be the case. Bama having to play a tough road game last week and the Hogs having off benefited us, IMO. I don't think Arky can beat us with a one dimensional Offense, Sabans Defense will put the onus on Casey Dicks arm. I don't think the hogs DBs can handle our WRs and I don't see JPW having two bad games in a row. I like Bama by two TDs in this game.

nooneLT
09-10-2007, 08:04 AM
arkansas fans...what's the status of monk?

Chris
09-10-2007, 09:23 AM
Very Good Thread. This is why I created this site. This is the stuff I like.

Well thought out/prepared postings that isn't the... "Alabama Rulz / ARK SUX" crap.

Thanks.

As for this match up. This will be a true test for the Tide. If Alabama can pull this one out, I will get excited. Not that I am not exciting that it's football season already :)

Rome
09-10-2007, 11:25 AM
Vandy is a good team, and time will show that to be the case. Bama having to play a tough road game last week and the Hogs having off benefited us, IMO. I don't think Arky can beat us with a one dimensional Offense, Sabans Defense will put the onus on Casey Dicks arm. I don't think the hogs DBs can handle our WRs and I don't see JPW having two bad games in a row. I like Bama by two TDs in this game.


Casey Dick can pass against secondaries that aren't great. Check out his numbers in the Tenn and SC games(he only started 5 games) from last year. Not great but pretty good considering the number of attempts. The question is whether or not he'll have Monk who was huge in those two games. He did struggle against LSU,UF and Wisconsin but those teams finished 1,2, and 3 in pass efficiency defense. I think Bama's secondary is on par with Tenn and SC's 06 secondary rather than LSU, UF or WIS's 06 secondary.

Arkansas isn't one dimensional if you don't make them one dimensional. LSU, UF, and Wis all did this last year. Can Bama do that? I think they can if we don't have Monk.

SWINETIME
09-10-2007, 11:50 AM
I think this year will be the exception. Win or lose, I think both teams will go on to win at least 8.

the Prodigy
09-10-2007, 11:58 AM
Monk is still questionable for the Alabama game. Arkansas needs to shoot for around 200 passing yards if the running game gets fewer than 150 in the first half. I think there will be a lot of scoring late as opposed to early. The way this game goes, both teams usually try to gage their talent against the other because it is usually the first real game for either team. They'll play conservative in the first half unless the running backs break it open on big plays early, which is certainly a possibility.

There has been a lot of talk about staking the line.... I don't think Bama will do that, if at all possible they will try to stop the run out of the standard 4-3 with few outright blitzes. They'll try to man up on the WR's and put a spy on Hillis to counter the dump to the flat.... all that while trying to keep Jones and McFadden at bay.... every running back on Arkansas' team that has played this season is averaging over 6 yards a carry. Look for all three, Smith Jones and McFadden to play key roles in Arkansas' offense.

Marcus Harrison will return to the line up to try and beef up the pass rush, which was less than stellar against Troy, With an extra DL that will add to Arkansas' depth on defense and will be the biggest X factor in the game. If they keep heat on JPW and he makes more than one mistake, things could get really dicey for Bama. Arkansas' secondary is going to have problems with 17th year senior DJ Hall (that guy has been there forever) if JPW has time in the pocket. I think he may even have been there when Bama desegregated.

The key matchup is how Arkansas' secondary will do against Bama's passing attack. Let's face it, Bama's defense is on damage control detail in this game trying to stop Darren McFadden and Felix Jones.

Arkansas wins in a close one 38-35.

Tiffen misses a FG to tie it, and we never hear from him again.

Hawginitall
09-10-2007, 12:00 PM
First let me say I think Arkansas will win. But if they don't, it won't be the end of the year. The schedule sets up for them to regroup if they lose, and I expect Arkansas to win 10 games this year, win or lose against 'Bama.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 12:01 PM
Tiffen misses a FG to tie it, and we never hear from him again.

LMAO

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 01:09 PM
I don't think Bama has to stack the box to slow them down. They'll get some yardage, but not much scoring. The question isn't Bama stopping Arky, it's can Arky stop Bama. Bama wins, 37-21 and The Ramp says, "Yeah, but Arkansas sucks!" :laugh:

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 01:15 PM
How long does BamaPerry have to keep that sig? week? season? just curious.

iacolb12
09-10-2007, 01:18 PM
When I get old, that's how I'm gonna die. Watching a Bama / Hogs game screaming "Tackle. Taackllle.. Taaa... grggllee...."

SWINETIME
09-10-2007, 01:25 PM
I don't think Bama has to stack the box to slow them down. They'll get some yardage, but not much scoring. The question isn't Bama stopping Arky, it's can Arky stop Bama. Bama wins, 37-21 and The Ramp says, "Yeah, but Arkansas sucks!" :laugh:

Not sure who will win, I think Arkansas. But one thing I am pretty sure of, BAMA wil not score 37 points.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 01:29 PM
How long does BamaPerry have to keep that sig? week? season? just curious.

one week unless he's foolish to bet the MTSU game:laugh:

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 01:30 PM
I don't think Bama has to stack the box to slow them down. They'll get some yardage, but not much scoring. The question isn't Bama stopping Arky, it's can Arky stop Bama. Bama wins, 37-21 and The Ramp says, "Yeah, but Arkansas sucks!" :laugh:

if ya'll beat Ark, I will give bama credit.

Hawginitall
09-10-2007, 01:33 PM
I don't think Bama has to stack the box to slow them down. They'll get some yardage, but not much scoring. :laugh:

The only team last year that played Arkansas with their base defense was LSU. They came in with the #3 run defense in the country, and Arkansas ran for 298 yards. Please line up in your base defense, please, please.

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 01:49 PM
I'll bet the line on the LSU/USC game.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 01:51 PM
I'll bet the line on the LSU/USC game.

let me see what the line is first. u sure are a glutton for punishment

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 01:53 PM
no, just overestimated the heck out of Beamer and VT. I think Miss. St. was better than them.

timNem
09-10-2007, 01:55 PM
no, just overestimated the heck out of Beamer and VT. I think Miss. St. was better than them.
A Skip Holtz coached ECU team should have beaten VT :laugh:

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 02:05 PM
A Skip Holtz coached ECU team should have beaten VT :laugh:

That ECU team gave up 31 points to UNC Saturday, only one TD to VT.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 02:05 PM
no, just overestimated the heck out of Beamer and VT. I think Miss. St. was better than them.

OR.......you fail to give us any credit:brick:

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 02:08 PM
That ECU team gave up 31 points to UNC Saturday, only one TD to VT.

VT will finish the year in the top 20. They will probably lose to GT, but should be favorites in the rest of thier ACC games.

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 02:10 PM
here's an interesting bet....i bet VT finishes higher than bama at the end of the year

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 04:01 PM
Did arky face a 3-4 defense last year?

goallthewayua
09-10-2007, 05:32 PM
Did arky face a 3-4 defense last year?


Why do you consider a 3-4 a good defense to run against us? Not trying to flame, just curious. You might as well give us 7 yards a rush.

sheluvsbama
09-10-2007, 06:23 PM
If JPW has a bad day, I hope the running game can make up for it, and I hope the defense is ready. It will be exciting, but I hope not a nail-biter!

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 06:33 PM
here's an interesting bet....i bet VT finishes higher than bama at the end of the year

:laugh: :laugh:

The Ramp
09-10-2007, 06:42 PM
:laugh: :laugh:

laughs the man with the funny sig

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 06:45 PM
VT is a 5 or 6 loss team. Maybe more.

Sept. 1, 2007 East Carolina (ESPN) W 17-7 1-0
Sept. 8, 2007 at LSU (ESPN) L 48-7 1-1
Sept. 15, 2007 Ohio (ESPN360) 1:30 pm ET - tossup
Sept. 22, 2007 William & Mary TBA - W
Sept. 29, 2007 North Carolina TBA - T
Oct. 6, 2007 at Clemson TBA - L
Oct. 13, 2007 at Duke TBA - T
Oct. 25, 2007 Boston College (ESPN) 7:30 pm ET - L
Nov. 1, 2007 at Georgia Tech (ESPN) 7:30 pm ET - L
Nov. 10, 2007 Florida State TBA - L
Nov. 17, 2007 Miami-FL TBA - L
Nov. 24, 2007 at Virginia TBA - T

WooPigSooie!
09-10-2007, 06:47 PM
arkansas fans...what's the status of monk?


This isn't absolute but I have a class with Monk and overheard him talking to a buddy saying he didn't think he would be playing this weekend due to his knee injury. Of course there is no telling what can happen in a weeks time.

AS FOR THE GAME:

Ark will win this one with their run game. I just don't see Bama stopping the run, especially if they are going to run a 3-4, but I don't think Saban is that stupid. It will be a close game though because I think Our DB's will have a lot of trouble keeping with Bama's receivers.

31-27

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 06:52 PM
Why do you consider a 3-4 a good defense to run against us? Not trying to flame, just curious. You might as well give us 7 yards a rush.

I didnt say that it is. Being that in a 3-4 d u can have blitzs from all over the field that will confuse arky's young o line. A 3-4 d is a real good run stopping play b/c u can get maore skill players in there to clog gaps, and force the play up the middle.Dont be suprised if Arky cant get the run gm going in the 1st half. Or u can expect Arky to try and pass the ball arounnd on that when we are blitzing and get burned b/c i can see them running a hb pass or some trick play on us that might score. Or everything I saod could be a total disaster and Arky will run all over our D, which is most likely not to happen.

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 06:56 PM
This isn't absolute but I have a class with Monk and overheard him talking to a buddy saying he didn't think he would be playing this weekend due to his knee injury. Of course there is no telling what can happen in a weeks time.

AS FOR THE GAME:

Ark will win this one with their run game. I just don't see Bama stopping the run, especially if they are going to run a 3-4, but I don't think Saban is that stupid. It will be a close game though because I think Our DB's will have a lot of trouble keeping with Bama's receivers.

31-27

How can u have some much trust in ur run gm in an hostile enviroment and only Arky's 2nd gm of the year, they are going to have early season problems being that they let troy score like 26, if yall can give up that many points to troy in ur on backyard, bama could do that easily. BTW, Isnt Casey Dick injured or something, does anyone know if he will play against bama?

Hawginitall
09-10-2007, 06:59 PM
How can u have some much trust in ur run gm in an hostile enviroment and only Arky's 2nd gm of the year,

That's easy, it's unbridled optimism. We foolishly think we can run the ball on anyone. Never have had much luck, but there's always a first time.

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 07:37 PM
That's easy, it's unbridled optimism. We foolishly think we can run the ball on anyone. Never have had much luck, but there's always a first time.

haha nice try with the sarcasim but it didnt work, any way, the question isnt will bama stop arky's run gm, the question is will arky stop bama offense.

WooPigSooie!
09-10-2007, 09:00 PM
How can u have some much trust in ur run gm in an hostile enviroment and only Arky's 2nd gm of the year, they are going to have early season problems being that they let troy score like 26, if yall can give up that many points to troy in ur on backyard, bama could do that easily. BTW, Isnt Casey Dick injured or something, does anyone know if he will play against bama?

To answer you first question: cfbstats.com - 2006 Arkansas Razorbacks Rushing Offense Game Log (http://www.cfbstats.com/2006/team/31/rushing/offense/gamelog.html)
Our two starting rushers have only gotten better since last year.

Second, I haven't heard anything about Dick being injured, just Monk.

Anyway, no sense in arguing, we will just have to wait to see what happens.

Sabanocchio
09-10-2007, 09:03 PM
haha nice try with the sarcasim but it didnt work, any way, the question isnt will bama stop arky's run gm, the question is will arky stop bama offense.

What is sarcasim? Some kind of Bammer delusional disorder?

Pigs are gonna fly in this game. And McFadden has a huge day 3 TDs 2 rushing, 1 throwing.

Bama is brought back to reality.

Blake you better watch it or pretty soon you'll be sporting a sig like Perry's. :lol:

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 09:05 PM
To answer you first question: cfbstats.com - 2006 Arkansas Razorbacks Rushing Offense Game Log (http://www.cfbstats.com/2006/team/31/rushing/offense/gamelog.html)
Our two starting rushers have only gotten better since last year.

Second, I haven't heard anything about Dick being injured, just Monk.

Anyway, no sense in arguing, we will just have to wait to see what happens.

wow u guys only had a 128 yds rushing against miss st lol. we will just have to wait and see. But for every pig fan that talks trash, be prepared to get blasted is yall lose, and its the same way for bama fans.

shk999
09-10-2007, 09:13 PM
What is sarcasim? Some kind of Bammer delusional disorder?
Its the sound in an opposing coach's voice when they tell Phil "you look good, have you lost weight?".

Pigs are gonna fly in this game. And McFadden has a huge day 3 TDs 2 rushing, 1 throwing.
Aint gonna happen

Bama is brought back to reality.
UT fans are already there, they are gonna welcome us back with a big party

Blake you better watch it or pretty soon you'll be sporting a sig like Perry's. :lol:
Quite possible


:thumpsup:

razorhead
09-10-2007, 09:18 PM
There has been talk about exploiting the Hogs secondary. It may happen but I don't think so. First of all, JPW would have to be alot more accurate than he was against Vandy. Secondly, the UA secondary didn't play as bad as it seemed against Troy. They obviously weren't well prepared for a spread offense. After halftime Troy completed 2 passes. In fact, the Troy receivers made some sick catches against really good coverage in the first half.

The key to this game will be Alabama running the ball. If they can do it against us like they did against Vandy it could be a tough day for the Hogs. As for Bama, stack the line...it won't matter. LSU couldn't stop the run last year, but they had the offense to outscore us.

I wouldn't even attempt to pick a winner. Should be a great game, and Bama should be in the top25 this week as well. Saban is doing the job quick.

M2J
09-10-2007, 09:33 PM
wow u guys only had a 128 yds rushing against miss st lol. we will just have to wait and see. But for every pig fan that talks trash, be prepared to get blasted is yall lose, and its the same way for bama fans.


Yeah, they didn't exactly dominate our defense either with the run. And they had like what? double OT?

I think Alabama should be the clear favorite ( I think they are favored by 3.5 or something), but while the Hogs may get 170-220 rushing yards, the key for Bama is to making sure they don't get too many pts from.

The bigger question is how much Bama scores, and you've got to think they will get points, maybe in the 20s if not more...then barring like a turnover return or kick return, Bama should be fine.

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 09:33 PM
There has been talk about exploiting the Hogs secondary. It may happen but I don't think so. First of all, JPW would have to be alot more accurate than he was against Vandy. Secondly, the UA secondary didn't play as bad as it seemed against Troy. They obviously weren't well prepared for a spread offense. After halftime Troy completed 2 passes. In fact, the Troy receivers made some sick catches against really good coverage in the first half.

The key to this game will be Alabama running the ball. If they can do it against us like they did against Vandy it could be a tough day for the Hogs. As for Bama, stack the line...it won't matter. LSU couldn't stop the run last year, but they had the offense to outscore us.

I wouldn't even attempt to pick a winner. Should be a great game, and Bama should be in the top25 this week as well. Saban is doing the job quick.
Nice post +rep for u. In the vandy gm, JPW made some good throws, but the recievers dropped the ball, and he wasnt never the same that game after he threw a block on a defender lol.

M2J
09-10-2007, 09:47 PM
I think JP just got bothered from the pressure, the high majority of the throws he really missed came off of times he was about to get hit or did get hit. They brought a fair bit of blitzes. But mostly I think they need to really implement Keith Brown in the game. A 2nd big playmaking veteran WR getting most of the reps can only help. Especially with his speed and ability to get open. This is the game both Hall and Brown need to get implemented and out of the dog house.

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 09:52 PM
I think JP just got bothered from the pressure, the high majority of the throws he really missed came off of times he was about to get hit or did get hit. They brought a fair bit of blitzes. But mostly I think they need to really implement Keith Brown in the game. A 2nd big playmaking veteran WR getting most of the reps can only help. Especially with his speed and ability to get open. This is the game both Hall and Brown need to get implemented and out of the dog house.

Agreed, if Bama wants to win, then they are going to have to get those guys on the field.

razorhead
09-10-2007, 09:52 PM
Understood, and I could be wrong, but I think Arkansas defensive line is better than Vandy's.

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 09:56 PM
Understood, and I could be wrong, but I think Arkansas defensive line is better than Vandy's.

Theres nothing wrong there, Arky's D line is way better than Vandy. Its going to be a handful for our O line to block them. We just dont need any kind of injuries on our O line in that game.

razorhead
09-10-2007, 10:04 PM
Hopefully that won't happen. We certainly can't afford any either.

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 10:06 PM
Is any Arkansas fans on this site going to the game?

razorhead
09-10-2007, 10:11 PM
Wish I were. My youngest daughter plays soccer at noon, then it's off to Cleveland MS to watch my son in law play a college game. I'm gonna have to listen on the radio unfortunately.

Blake~BamaFan
09-10-2007, 10:46 PM
Wish I were. My youngest daughter plays soccer at noon, then it's off to Cleveland MS to watch my son in law play a college game. I'm gonna have to listen on the radio unfortunately.

Man, that has to suck. Its going to be a real good game, ESPN has a re-reun of the game of the week, and more than likely it will be bama/arky. IT comes on ESPN Classic i think.

BAMAPERRY
09-10-2007, 11:10 PM
Hog fans are the most delusional I've seen. They've basically got 3 RBs and a WR, and the WR is hurt. Bama is better in all other phases of the game. And our RBs aren't bad.

Roscoe
09-10-2007, 11:13 PM
BamaPerry - Can you point me to the prediction that caused you to have to put that image in your signature? I arrived late, and missed that... pretty funny :goodjob:

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 11:18 PM
Hog fans are the most delusional I've seen. They've basically got 3 RBs and a WR, and the WR is hurt. Bama is better in all other phases of the game. And our RBs aren't bad.

I honestly have no clue who to take in this game.

Location: Adv. Alabama
Running Game: Huge adv Arkansas
Passing Game: Adv Alabama
Run Defense: Adv Arkansas
Pass Defense: Adv Alabama

It's my understanding that niether defense is too great, and I see this game being a very high scoring game. My gut says that Arkansas wins, but I never underestimate Saban.

M2J
09-10-2007, 11:19 PM
BamaPerry - Can you point me to the prediction that caused you to have to put that image in your signature? I arrived late, and missed that... pretty funny :goodjob:


I think he predicted VT to beat LSU

GTTiger
09-10-2007, 11:20 PM
I think he predicted VT to beat LSU

He also predicted MSU to beat LSU, but that's completely non-related.

SECorBust
09-11-2007, 12:01 AM
here's an interesting bet....i bet VT finishes higher than bama at the end of the year

They already have a loss I'll take that to the bank and cash it, but let's just give them until the LSU game or so.

razorhead
09-11-2007, 12:37 AM
Hog fans are the most delusional I've seen. They've basically got 3 RBs and a WR, and the WR is hurt. Bama is better in all other phases of the game. And our RBs aren't bad.


You have wins over some directional Carolina school and Vandy. Basically, Vandy was robbed of a TD, probably 2 if you want to count a face mask called on the return team on a punt. Took the wind out of their sails. Plus, you still have a kicker that has choked so many times he probably has anoxic brain injury. You are calling Hog fans delusional? I'm not predicting an Arkansas win, and I'm not saying Bama won't win 10 games. I am saying that you are probably the biggest idiot homer on this board. And that is an honor that is hard to achieve here.

AFWarrior83
09-11-2007, 03:30 AM
A couple funny threads from other fan sites. It provides a good laugh!

Hog site:
Official Alabama Look-Alike Thread (http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=153925.0)

Tide site:
Ok, Arkansas look-a-likes! - Topic Powered by eve community (http://forums.tidesports.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3631098265/m/3821066056/p/1)


BTW Hogs "Roll" the tide 30-24.

TigerJunkie420
09-11-2007, 03:37 AM
Should be a really good game. Casey Dick better not play around.

Blake~BamaFan
09-11-2007, 07:18 AM
I honestly have no clue who to take in this game.

Location: Adv. Alabama
Running Game: Huge adv Arkansas
Passing Game: Adv Alabama
Run Defense: Adv Arkansas
Pass Defense: Adv Alabama

It's my understanding that niether defense is too great, and I see this game being a very high scoring game. My gut says that Arkansas wins, but I never underestimate Saban.

JessN gave the advantage to bama in the linebacker, which i gues is the same for run defense.

usafbamafan
09-11-2007, 07:37 AM
JessN gave the advantage to bama in the linebacker, which i gues is the same for run defense.

Linebacker is basically a toss-up. Arkansas is much stronger on the DL. Therefore, Arkansas has a better Run D.

nooneLT
09-11-2007, 07:55 AM
Why do you consider a 3-4 a good defense to run against us? Not trying to flame, just curious. You might as well give us 7 yards a rush.

while it is a 3-4 defense, saban runs a 3-4 under, which means 1 OLB will be on the line.

I honestly have no clue who to take in this game.

Location: Adv. Alabama
Running Game: Huge adv Arkansas
Passing Game: Adv Alabama
Run Defense: Adv Arkansas
Pass Defense: Adv Alabama

It's my understanding that niether defense is too great, and I see this game being a very high scoring game. My gut says that Arkansas wins, but I never underestimate Saban.

you know, i felt that our game against vandy was gonna be a high scoring affair since i didn't think either defense would do much to stop the other offenses. after the game, i was shocked at how much i was wrong. then i realized this is the SEC where defense dominates. as much as i think it will be a high scoring game, i don't think either team reaches 30 points.

BAMAPERRY
09-11-2007, 07:58 AM
Have you actually looked at Arkys DL? What's so impressive? Their LBs? They're starting a RS Frosh there from Athens, Al. that couldn't field another D-1 scholarship. B/U at DE is Ambrose, a true Frosh from Mobile who was another Bama reject. Starting WR London Crawford from Alabama, another Bama reject. Looking at most of their players and who else they received scholarship offers from, not real impressive. Nutt does a good job geting the most out of them. But, they lost too much last year. And to hear an Arky fan ask who we've played when the only team they've played is a weak Troy team that they led 23-17 at the Half and UF led 49-7 at the half, is quite franklt laughable. Do they remember playing Vandy last year in Nashville? They were very lucky to win that game.

razorhead
09-11-2007, 08:31 AM
Whatever man. It's obvious from that picture below your post that you know what you are talking about.

reese
09-11-2007, 08:38 AM
i dont kno if this is where i should make my prediction for the game but im goin with bama and i dont think it will be close...i say by at least 10

BAMAPERRY
09-11-2007, 08:44 AM
Nutt is 1-3 in T-town, the only win in 2003 over a 4-9 Bama team after Shula brain farted and lost a 31-10 4th qtr. lead. And our coach is a LOT better than the ones who coached in those games. Good luck.

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 08:53 AM
Whatever man. It's obvious from that picture below your post that you know what you are talking about.

LOL....8/10

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 08:56 AM
Nutt is 1-3 in T-town, the only win in 2003 over a 4-9 Bama team after Shula brain farted and lost a 31-10 4th qtr. lead. And our coach is a LOT better than the ones who coached in those games. Good luck.

Yes... the same self proclaimed greatest defensive back coach who let Matt "i can't pass to save my life" Jones throw a 70 yard bomb on a final Hail Mary? We had the 2002 SECCG locked up before that. Good luck

BAMAPERRY
09-11-2007, 09:10 AM
Yes... the same self proclaimed greatest defensive back coach who let Matt "i can't pass to save my life" Jones throw a 70 yard bomb on a final Hail Mary? We had the 2002 SECCG locked up before that. Good luck

No, the same one that brought some hardware home to LSU for the 1st time in 50 years. :brick: :stickpoke

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 09:25 AM
No, the same one that brought some hardware home to LSU for the 1st time in 50 years. :brick: :stickpoke

i think Loyd Carr and Phil Fulmer's got rings too. Let's suck them off too

volimhtown
09-11-2007, 11:42 AM
Damn....as soon as Chris propped everyone for good posts, this thread quickly turned.
For starters, let's ease up on the "TN-FL game of the West" talk!! There is NO comparison!! For starters, I think that LSU and Auburn already easily win that distinction!! Not to mention that the loser of this game usually winds up with a losing record and that's only happened once in the past two decades between UF and TN, so let's keep it real!!
To the game....the Battle for Second Best in the West!! This game (IMO) is always a classic, southern-style grudge match and should be fun to watch. Arkansas brings a heavy duty, grind 'em out running attack that features a game-breaking, all-everything running back. Bama brings a more balanced attack featuring an underrated and very capable QB. Both defenses are good, but definitely have opportunities. To me, this game simply comes down to field position and limiting mistakes. Which ever team wins the field position battle and limits turnovers will win. That being the case, I think you have to give the slight advantage to the home team. I think the Tide do just enough to hold on and win this one 27-23.
GO VOLS!!

UAdan
09-11-2007, 12:43 PM
Interesting reads in this thread.

A lot of talk about both Alabama and Arkansas's defense. Honestly, the best defense for both sides might be a strong offense. I think the Tide and the Hogs are both going to try and control the clock. Arkansas wants D-Mac, F. Jones, and that big ole O-line on the field as often as possible, and Alabama wants those boys on the sidelines as often as possible. Time of possession could be a very important factor in this one. Can't wait till Saturday.

lLandonhog
09-11-2007, 01:05 PM
Linebacker is basically a toss-up. Arkansas is much stronger on the DL. Therefore, Arkansas has a better Run D.

Definitely...

Bamafan316
09-11-2007, 05:10 PM
Well, I just simulated it on NCAA 2008 and it ended up a draw. So maybe that means they both might have good seasons or bad.

the Prodigy
09-11-2007, 05:17 PM
Interesting reads in this thread.

A lot of talk about both Alabama and Arkansas's defense. Honestly, the best defense for both sides might be a strong offense. I think the Tide and the Hogs are both going to try and control the clock. Arkansas wants D-Mac, F. Jones, and that big ole O-line on the field as often as possible, and Alabama wants those boys on the sidelines as often as possible. Time of possession could be a very important factor in this one. Can't wait till Saturday.

These are my sentiments as well. Bama will be trying to control the damage Arkansas running game will do, and no one knows if Arkansas, secondary and pass rush will show up or not. JPW could be in for a big day, but so could McFadden and/or Jones. I really don't see bama shutting EVERY weapon Arkansas has down, there are just too many. Isn't DJ Hall like 40? How long has he been at Alabama, he must have 9 degrees by now.

BamaFan425
09-11-2007, 06:18 PM
How many times have we really seen BAMA in a true 3-4 this season? He usually has a LB get down in a three point stance and pass rush as an DE.

Now for the game, I think Terry Grant scores first play, but Arkansas doesn't let this slow them down. It's a tight game going into 4th quarter, BAMA gets a pick and runs it down into Arkansas territory where BAMA stalls and kicks a field goal and cruises on to win by 10 points.

In other words, BAMA wins. That prediction was a little detailed, but thats just my feeling. I highly doubt much of it will be right. But I am so excited for this game I just can't control myself. I'll be there and read to roll. w00t.

ROLL TIDE ROLL! LETS ROAST SOME PIG!

Bamafan316
09-11-2007, 06:31 PM
Dj Hall is only 21. So, I'm not sure where that came from powerade. What are these so many weapons Arkansas have? I know they have a good run game there defense isn't bad but seem to fold under pressure.

BAMAPERRY
09-11-2007, 06:45 PM
This is McFadden and Jones 3rd year, Arky is 16-10 during that stretch. You guys are sure reading a lot into that 46-26 win over Troy.

goallthewayua
09-11-2007, 08:21 PM
This is McFadden and Jones 3rd year, Arky is 16-10 during that stretch. You guys are sure reading a lot into that 46-26 win over Troy.

I know man, we should be reading a lot more into Bama's impressive wins over two teams that were a combined 6-17 last season. Including the Tide's thumping of 1 AA powerhouse Wester Carolina who lost close games last year to other stud programs such as Furmon, Elon, and Liberty. Oh and by a combined score of 100 to 26.

Oh and before you bring up our Vandy game last season remember we beat them in Nashville. You beat them in Tuscalosa by 3 points. That Vandy team you played last weekend was not the same one that beat Georgia and played everyone else tight.

Troy won their division last season and their bowl game by 24 points. I promise you man, it wasn't their skill on offense or are lack of skill on defense that allowed them to score 26, but the style of offense they run. Troy also scored a garbage TD with no time left to make it 26. We also had over 500 yards of total offense including 350 rushing and we pulled our starters in the 4th. They also put up 31 against Florida last week. It isn't because their d sucks that bad either, rather they haven't faced that same spread 5 receiver crap that Troy plays and its extremely hard to defend.

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 08:23 PM
don't you guys think it's funny that ya'll diss the other team all week and then whoever wins makes the other team out to be world beaters?

M2J
09-11-2007, 08:40 PM
don't you guys think it's funny that ya'll diss the other team all week and then whoever wins makes the other team out to be world beaters?


So true, which is why Im glad Bama's gonna win:thumpsup: , and maybe aside from FSU, that's the only big game we've got this year that I'll say that about. If I'm wrong, then I'll just look like a big homer, same as everybody else on the board:laugh:

razorhead
09-11-2007, 09:00 PM
Damn....as soon as Chris propped everyone for good posts, this thread quickly turned.
For starters, let's ease up on the "TN-FL game of the West" talk!! There is NO comparison!! For starters, I think that LSU and Auburn already easily win that distinction!! Not to mention that the loser of this game usually winds up with a losing record and that's only happened once in the past two decades between UF and TN, so let's keep it real!!
To the game....the Battle for Second Best in the West!! This game (IMO) is always a classic, southern-style grudge match and should be fun to watch. Arkansas brings a heavy duty, grind 'em out running attack that features a game-breaking, all-everything running back. Bama brings a more balanced attack featuring an underrated and very capable QB. Both defenses are good, but definitely have opportunities. To me, this game simply comes down to field position and limiting mistakes. Which ever team wins the field position battle and limits turnovers will win. That being the case, I think you have to give the slight advantage to the home team. I think the Tide do just enough to hold on and win this one 27-23.
GO VOLS!!


I meant because it was an early season matchup. And YF / TN doesn't have the luster its had in the past either.

razorhead
09-11-2007, 09:03 PM
I know man, we should be reading a lot more into Bama's impressive wins over two teams that were a combined 6-17 last season. Including the Tide's thumping of 1 AA powerhouse Wester Carolina who lost close games last year to other stud programs such as Furmon, Elon, and Liberty. Oh and by a combined score of 100 to 26.

Oh and before you bring up our Vandy game last season remember we beat them in Nashville. You beat them in Tuscalosa by 3 points. That Vandy team you played last weekend was not the same one that beat Georgia and played everyone else tight.

Troy won their division last season and their bowl game by 24 points. I promise you man, it wasn't their skill on offense or are lack of skill on defense that allowed them to score 26, but the style of offense they run. Troy also scored a garbage TD with no time left to make it 26. We also had over 500 yards of total offense including 350 rushing and we pulled our starters in the 4th. They also put up 31 against Florida last week. It isn't because their d sucks that bad either, rather they haven't faced that same spread 5 receiver crap that Troy plays and its extremely hard to defend.


To all Hog fans: We should stop wasting our time debating Forrest Gump's intellectual twin.

razorhead
09-11-2007, 09:06 PM
Dj I know they have a good run game there defense isn't bad but seem to fold under pressure.

Sorry for all the posts in a row, but I have to respond to another stupid comment. Are you talking about the same defense that caused JPW to fumble and score a go ahead TD last year?

bigbama
09-11-2007, 09:12 PM
look its gonna be a tough game for both but i think bama is gonna shock alot of people this weekend and i cant wait another thing i dont think noone gives us the respect that were due there is not another team in the country expect a few that can say they have acclompished half of what bama has and their is noone in the sec that can be compared to us every sports show out there has no respect for bama and they are gonna be fooled roll tide

bigbama
09-11-2007, 09:16 PM
LSU sucks man get that crap outta here

the Prodigy
09-11-2007, 09:25 PM
Dj Hall is only 21. So, I'm not sure where that came from powerade. What are these so many weapons Arkansas have? I know they have a good run game there defense isn't bad but seem to fold under pressure.

Well that is problem no.1

Peyton Hillis (no.1 ranked fullback in the nation according to Mel Kiper Jr.)
Ben Cleveland (caught the game tying TD against Bama last year as well as numerous other passes, nearly all at critical points in each game)
Marcus Harrison (when he's not popping X he is shutting down the inside running game, intercepted a shovel pass in last year's SECCG and ran it back for a TD)
Weston Dacus (senior leader on defense, has had numerous INT's and Tackles in the SEC in his tenor at Arkansas)
Robert Johnson (since moving to WR, has the fewest dropped passes of any receiver other than Marcus Monk)
Micheal Smith (3RD STRING running back, before he was injured his freshman year, he was the starter ahead of McFadden and Jones, so far this season he is averaging over 8 yards a carry.)
The entire OL.... Johnathan Luigs is the 1st team Center on the All-SEC team. Vadez LT, is going to be better than Tony Ugoh, hard to imagine, but this OL could be better than last year's by the time the season is over.
Even though he probably won't play....

Marcus Monk (Holds the record for Most Career TD's for a receiver at Arkansas, Key TD's last season were against Auburn, Tennessee and South Carolina.)

Roscoe
09-11-2007, 09:26 PM
LSU sucks man get that crap outta here

Welcome to the board BigBama. Nice introduction. :twak:

timNem
09-11-2007, 09:28 PM
LSU sucks man get that crap outta hereWhich LSU are you talking about?

the Prodigy
09-11-2007, 09:31 PM
How many times have we really seen BAMA in a true 3-4 this season? He usually has a LB get down in a three point stance and pass rush as an DE.

Now for the game, I think Terry Grant scores first play, but Arkansas doesn't let this slow them down. It's a tight game going into 4th quarter, BAMA gets a pick and runs it down into Arkansas territory where BAMA stalls and kicks a field goal and cruises on to win by 10 points.

In other words, BAMA wins. That prediction was a little detailed, but thats just my feeling. I highly doubt much of it will be right. But I am so excited for this game I just can't control myself. I'll be there and read to roll. w00t.

ROLL TIDE ROLL! LETS ROAST SOME PIG!

My guess is they run a 4-3 even though the personnel may look more like a 3-4 because they want their best players on the field. Either way, they will probably but the strong side on the Left and try to intimidate the younger Offensive Linemen and blindside the QB with a blitz. I doubt Bama gets to return a kickoff for a TD. A more likely scenario would have Arkansas returning one seeing as how they have already done it, and they have the best returners in the SEC - Darren McFadden and Felix Jones.

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 09:38 PM
LSU sucks man get that crap outta here

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i90/MT33/LSUFlag.gif

crimsonnation713
09-11-2007, 09:46 PM
Whats gonna happen will happen. The majority here thought Vandy would beat us. They didn't.
On having a bad game , some here are touting JPW has being inept. He had A bad game. Not several.
Radio here says Monk isn't playing. If that be the case the Hogs will be hurting no matter what you think. They will turn to their horse and try to run it down our throats. Thats where the game will be telling.
We have maybe the best or one of the best WR corps in the SEC and Arky is going to have to play a little " D " to beat us whether they want to or not. Their offense isn't going to do it by itself.

razorhead
09-11-2007, 09:49 PM
I can't believe the majority here thought Vandy would beat Bama. Many probably thought they had a decent chance, and they did. No doubt this will be a good game. It usually is. And both teams will have to be at their best to beat the other.

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 09:54 PM
i think most of us had Vandy covering not winning

crimsonnation713
09-11-2007, 09:58 PM
i think most of us had Vandy covering not winning

ok...whatever you guys say. Lets say a lot then. Does that suffice? Good grief.

The Ramp
09-11-2007, 10:00 PM
ok...whatever you guys say.

was there a poll?

<<<too lazy to look

sheluvsbama
09-11-2007, 10:00 PM
I think it was more like the majority here WANTED Vandy to beat Bama, and also they didn't want anyone to think they were the least concerned over how we would play this year. We expect to have a so-so year, but this is not wished for us by others. They still want us to lose every game. Sad, but true.

crimsonnation713
09-11-2007, 10:11 PM
was there a poll?

<<<too lazy to look



didnt have to be....and plus grady didnt have the time

Bamafan316
09-11-2007, 10:12 PM
Sorry for all the posts in a row, but I have to respond to another stupid comment. Are you talking about the same defense that caused JPW to fumble and score a go ahead TD last year?


Yes, the same damn defense that lost there last three big games last year. Alabama did lost that game last year not do to any fumble though. They lost that game do to the kicker. It shuoldn't of ever gone in to OT. My point is this Arkansas has the talent but seem to fold under pressure. They had the west last year and blew it. When Bama clearly fell out of the running I was praying the hogs could do it. I never even said who I thought was going to win this game. Powerade was just talking about all this loaded talent. The run game is great but they better come with more then just that. They have to go to the air make some big plays.

the Prodigy
09-11-2007, 10:15 PM
Whats gonna happen will happen. The majority here thought Vandy would beat us. They didn't.
On having a bad game , some here are touting JPW has being inept. He had A bad game. Not several.
Radio here says Monk isn't playing. If that be the case the Hogs will be hurting no matter what you think. They will turn to their horse and try to run it down our throats. Thats where the game will be telling.
We have maybe the best or one of the best WR corps in the SEC and Arky is going to have to play a little " D " to beat us whether they want to or not. Their offense isn't going to do it by itself.

Having the best WR corps in the SEC isn't a big enough crutch to fall on for Alabama, having the Best running attack in the nation IS a big enough crutch for Arkansas to win games like this one, they've proven it.

If Arkansas' defense shows up to the stadium, with the addition of Harrison back into the lineup, I doubt Bama has a good enough day offensively to win. BAMA has NOTHING to go on as far as film is concerned. Arkansas ran 3 formations and like 8 different plays. I think it was strategy for the Bama game, more than it was a lack of creativity. When Bama gives up 300 on the ground, bama will be on here saying McFadden and Jones are the real deal and JPW needs to get out of the funk he's in or it is going to be a long season. It is the same, nearly every game like this, Fans talk tough, about stopping McFadden and Jones, and then when they can't, "Oh yeah, they are the real deal, I think Chuck Norris might be afraid of Darren McFadden."

Oh, and the passing game, just a hunch, but if McFadden and Jones have success early, this will turn into Auburn from last year.... remember that game? The touted Auburn defense looked like a Treadmill, and the corners got absolutely dominated just about every time the ball went into the air. Yeah, I know you aren't Auburn, but lets be honest. Arkansas has better players on offense, and they have more of them. If Arkansas' defense struggles, the game will be tight, but Arkansas is going to score points, regardless of how tough or fast or "lock down" you think your defense is. McFadden and Jones score on everybody, so don't feel bad when it happens to you.

crimsonnation713
09-11-2007, 10:19 PM
Having the best WR corps in the SEC isn't a big enough crutch to fall on for Alabama, having the Best running attack in the nation IS a big enough crutch for Arkansas to win games like this one, they've proven it.

If Arkansas' defense shows up to the stadium, with the addition of Harrison back into the lineup, I doubt Bama has a good enough day offensively to win. BAMA has NOTHING to go on as far as film is concerned. Arkansas ran 3 formations and like 8 different plays. I think it was strategy for the Bama game, more than it was a lack of creativity. When Bama gives up 300 on the ground, bama will be on here saying McFadden and Jones are the real deal and JPW needs to get out of the funk he's in or it is going to be a long season. It is the same, nearly every game like this, Fans talk tough, about stopping McFadden and Jones, and then when they can't, "Oh yeah, they are the real deal, I think Chuck Norris might be afraid of Darren McFadden."

Oh, and the passing game, just a hunch, but if McFadden and Jones have success early, this will turn into Auburn from last year.... remember that game? The touted Auburn defense looked like a Treadmill, and the corners got absolutely dominated just about every time the ball went into the air. Yeah, I know you aren't Auburn, but lets be honest. Arkansas has better players on offense, and they have more of them. If Arkansas' defense struggles, the game will be tight, but Arkansas is going to score points, regardless of how tough or fast or "lock down" you think your defense is. McFadden and Jones score on everybody, so don't feel bad when it happens to you.





Only thing I did was speak the obvious and you wanna start getting homeristic and talk trash. I thought this was just a way to say what you felt your team had to do. Far as I'm concerned talk to your damn self .

the Prodigy
09-11-2007, 10:27 PM
That is something I've never quite understood. I think my team is going to win. Yeah, I have good reason to think they are going to win, I've already made my prediction on this game 38-35 Arkansas. I think it is going to be close and Tiffen craps out in the clutch. All I'm doing is listing the things Arkansas needs to do well, in my opinion, to win the game. A couple of those things, based on the recent history, are pretty much a sure thing. Just man up to the fact that Arkansas has the best player in the nation, and he's just straight up better than your guy, pick one, it doesn't matter who it is, he's better, and he's going to score on you. You can put 8 guys on him like Troy did and Felix Jones will beat the other three, if in fact all three of them can get into a position quick enough to make it interesting, and on top of that, the guy you were trying to stop while letting that OTHER GUY score on you is going to put up ronchy numbers on the ground anyway, probably passing on you with success a few times too. It's just the way it is.

timNem
09-11-2007, 10:36 PM
That is something I've never quite understood. I think my team is going to win. Yeah, I have good reason to think they are going to win, I've already made my prediction on this game 38-35 Arkansas. I think it is going to be close and Tiffen craps out in the clutch. All I'm doing is listing the things Arkansas needs to do well, in my opinion, to win the game. A couple of those things, based on the recent history, are pretty much a sure thing. Just man up to the fact that Arkansas has the best player in the nation, and he's just straight up better than your guy, pick one, it doesn't matter who it is, he's better, and he's going to score on you. You can put 8 guys on him like Troy did and Felix Jones will beat the other three, if in fact all three of them can get into a position quick enough to make it interesting, and on top of that, the guy you were trying to stop while letting that OTHER GUY score on you is going to put up ronchy numbers on the ground anyway, probably passing on you with success a few times too. It's just the way it is.
I'm not making any prediction and I will bow before DMAC because he is that good. But IF McFadden loses against Bama on saturday how will you explain your post? He is great but he can only play one position at a time.

the Prodigy
09-11-2007, 10:46 PM
I'm not making any prediction and I will bow before DMAC because he is that good. But IF McFadden loses against Bama on saturday how will you explain your post? He is great but he can only play one position at a time.

I can definitely see Arkansas losing this game. Bama has a good team. But in these types of situations, I will go with the proven thing. And Arkansas' running game is as proven a thing as you can have in college football.

Bama has a great WR corps with Veteran Leadership, a Qb who has shown he can make the throws necessary to create big plays, but he has NOT shown that he is a clutch player, for a QB that is something that you must have if you are going to rely on him the way Bama relies on JPW.

the Prodigy
09-11-2007, 10:54 PM
Darren Mustin as well as the rest of Alabama is putting a lot of emphasis on "tackling". What does that tell you about how they are approaching this game? Something so fundamental should be an easy concept for SEC defenders right? It tells me, Bama knows they are going to playing at a disadvantage and they know it. The same goes for Saban's comments on Marcus Monk, and the uncertainty Bama has he will play. That knowledge is what will make this game too close for comfort for some.

As a bama fan, what do you guys think the film room will be covering?

redback65
09-11-2007, 10:58 PM
That is something I've never quite understood. I think my team is going to win. Yeah, I have good reason to think they are going to win, I've already made my prediction on this game 38-35 Arkansas. I think it is going to be close and Tiffen craps out in the clutch. All I'm doing is listing the things Arkansas needs to do well, in my opinion, to win the game. A couple of those things, based on the recent history, are pretty much a sure thing. Just man up to the fact that Arkansas has the best player in the nation, and he's just straight up better than your guy, pick one, it doesn't matter who it is, he's better, and he's going to score on you. You can put 8 guys on him like Troy did and Felix Jones will beat the other three, if in fact all three of them can get into a position quick enough to make it interesting, and on top of that, the guy you were trying to stop while letting that OTHER GUY score on you is going to put up ronchy numbers on the ground anyway, probably passing on you with success a few times too. It's just the way it is. Well,I just don't think Saban will probaly get Tiffin in a game winning situation knowing his past history unless he has no choice, though.........BUT If it happens like that,I do like the odds in our favor. JMO. I do think 12th man will factor big for Bama of course. Will be hostile enviroment for the newbies. Lots of first time SEC jitters to be settled down. But, we are more than 1-dimensional like many Bama fans will discover Saturday. I think we might mix it up with Deep pass, option screens, hogwild package, and Iso's to cause some early confusion on D. But who knows? just Can't wait to see the damb game

timNem
09-11-2007, 11:06 PM
Darren Mustin as well as the rest of Alabama is putting a lot of emphasis on "tackling". What does that tell you about how they are approaching this game? Something so fundamental should be an easy concept for SEC defenders right? It tells me, Bama knows they are going to playing at a disadvantage and they know it. The same goes for Saban's comments on Marcus Monk, and the uncertainty Bama has he will play. That knowledge is what will make this game too close for comfort for some.

As a bama fan, what do you guys think the film room will be covering?They are probably wondering if they should just go ahead and forfeit the game since we won't be able to stop any of your RBs.

M2J
09-11-2007, 11:07 PM
Only thing I did was speak the obvious and you wanna start getting homeristic and talk trash. I thought this was just a way to say what you felt your team had to do. Far as I'm concerned talk to your damn self .


He got like super homeristic.

First off Powerade, how do you know Alabama's WR corp isn't good enough? How do you know your running game is good enough to pull you through? It was defense and your running game that helped you all last year, I think that defense will be deminished. And while you say IF your defense show up, our offense won't do well...well I don't think your defense shows up and I'll be surprised IF it does.

the Prodigy
09-11-2007, 11:15 PM
They are probably wondering if they should just go ahead and forfeit the game since we won't be able to stop any of your RBs.

That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to seem like an asshole.:glare:

the Prodigy
09-11-2007, 11:21 PM
He got like super homeristic.

First off Powerade, how do you know Alabama's WR corp isn't good enough? How do you know your running game is good enough to pull you through? It was defense and your running game that helped you all last year, I think that defense will be deminished. And while you say IF your defense show up, our offense won't do well...well I don't think your defense shows up and I'll be surprised IF it does.

Like Totally!!!!!


Please, I have more of a reason to think that Arkansas can run the ball than you do to think that Bama can pass. Like I've said a thousand times, I think the game will be close, I'm just listing the things Arkansas needs to accomplish, in my opinion, to win the Football game. Anything is possible, but the fact I think Arkansas is going to succeed in running the football, shouldn't surprise anyone, they run on everyone. Who puts up 350+ yards on the ground against anybody? Arkansas does. I'm going on what I know, I know Arkansas has the best player and subsequently the best running attack in the nation, and I know that Bama has almost nothing to scout because Arkansas didn't run more than 8 plays against Troy. Can you refute any of that? You can, but you'll look like an idiot.

I'll say it one more time, this game will be close, but Arkansas will win. Alabama doesn't have a clutch player to rely on, and they don't have a good enough run defense to stop Darren McFadden and co.

M2J
09-11-2007, 11:35 PM
Nothing to scout. Find the running back, tackle him.

timNem
09-11-2007, 11:36 PM
That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to seem like an asshole.:glare:
I don't doubt that at all :laugh: If Bama lucks up and somehow the planets align perfectly and the football gods are gracious enough to allow Bama to win this game then its going to be fun on here late saturday evening.

M2J
09-11-2007, 11:39 PM
I don't doubt that at all :laugh: If Bama lucks up and somehow the planets align perfectly and the football gods are gracious enough to allow Bama to win this game then its going to be fun on here late saturday evening.


Oh so fun. Can't wait for my boy Perry to declare Bama the SEC West champs:thumpsup:

Rebel Chuck
09-11-2007, 11:44 PM
How many yards does McFadden have so far this year?

WooPigSooie!
09-11-2007, 11:58 PM
How many yards does McFadden have so far this year?

Darren McFadden

-151 yards rushing at an average of 6.3 per carry with 24 carries
-30 yards receiving

Felix Jones

-129 yards rushing at an average of 10.8 per carry with 12 carries

Those numbers will go way up after Saturdays game, haha. It will be a great game, It will be close and Arkansas will depend heavily on Dmac and Felix like they always do.

timNem
09-12-2007, 12:11 AM
Terry Grant doesn't qualify to carry DMACs shoes but he ain't too shabby for a freshmen.

307 Rushing Yds
39 Receiving Yds
5 TDs
7.31 YPC
153.5 YPG

CrimsonTide12xs
09-12-2007, 12:26 AM
Red Powerade needs to mix less Johnny Walker Red with his Red Powerade. He is on the verge of being in Barner mode.

SECorBust
09-12-2007, 12:47 AM
Red Powerade needs to mix less Johnny Walker Red with his Red Powerade. He is on the verge of being in Barner mode.

Where would this thread be without Red Power AID???? The guy is a storm trooper and he'll stick to his guns despite the worst stovepipe misfires. If Arkansas is half as determined to win as Red P. then Arkansas will run right into next week.

The thing is I halfway expect Arky's Defence to come in the game tripping on the "little blue pill" and fall in an extatic moment when Mike McCoy takes one to the House.

Watching Saban's plan to stop Felix Jones and D-Mac unfold will be verry interesting no matter the result of his plan. I liked the way Saban limited Vandy's top two players primarily with True Freshmen (McClain & Jackson). This guy can coach. We may not win them all, but by Gawd we will win the ones that we are supposed to.

RTR

azamugg
09-12-2007, 01:25 AM
wow, the arky homerism is at an all time high....fun to read, gotta love SEC enthusiasm........heres one for the ten o'clock news, I think Bama will take it, what a surprise!

Bama is a little more well rounded than Arky is, fortunately

On D, the secondary is money, Jackson has come out of nowhere, Castille is Castille, Rashaud is killing mofo's and the Carter is passing

the LB's have showed up and I can see Saban playing Prince Hall and Rolando simultaneous on first and/or second downs.......

the Dline has definitely been a pleasant surprise and Saban has been getting all of them downs so wait for more Luther Davis than we have seen, a little McCullough, some Chapman, some Fanney, Deadrick, Washington......Saban is gonna make sure we've got some fresh legs in there at all times

our offense is much more balanced w/JPW and McCoy, Alexander, Brown, Hall, Stover....WOW what rcvrs and we havent even seen Maze yet (I'll bet they redshirt him) and definitely have a running game with Grant being the star and Coffee, Johns, Upchurch all being interchangeable

Arky is tough as nails, just like Bama, old school and its why we always have knockdown dragouts w/these mofo's...........but our balance and home field advantage carries us to a

27-19 win

BAMAPERRY
09-12-2007, 04:52 AM
Arky is 16-10 since the unstoppable D'Mac and Jones have been there.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l143/BAMAPERRY/donnanutt.jpg?t=1189590494

goallthewayua
09-12-2007, 05:52 AM
Arky is 16-10 since the unstoppable D'Mac and Jones have been there.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l143/BAMAPERRY/donnanutt.jpg?t=1189590494

Actually we are 14-11 you freaking idiot. If your gonna talk trash, why don't you try to get it right. :laugh:

BAMAPERRY
09-12-2007, 05:57 AM
5-6 + 10-4 + 1-0 = 14-11? :)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l143/BAMAPERRY/donnanutt.jpg?t=1189590494

goallthewayua
09-12-2007, 06:43 AM
Ah, your counting the Troy game, nice jedi mind trick, but your still wrong. We were 4-7 in 05, 10-4 in 06, and 1-0 in 07.

So 15-11 buddy. Get it right.

BAMAPERRY
09-12-2007, 07:59 AM
Interesting stat:

Nick Saban teams are 11-3-1 when facing teams coming off an open date, and they are 8-0 at home when taking on opponents who did not play the previous week.

nooneLT
09-12-2007, 08:02 AM
look at last year's stats...
Darren McFadden 25 124 12 112 1 29 4.5
Felix Jones 4 65 0 65 0 26 16.2

if we can contain not stop these 2 like we did this game we have a great shot of winning. i know we lost last year, but look at who we had as coach.

the Prodigy
09-12-2007, 08:38 AM
Like I said, I don't know why thinking my team is going to win and then reeling off the reasons why I think that makes me a homer. I'll say it for you guys, I'm a homer when it comes to Arkansas. I want them to and think they can win every week they play. Is that the reality? Not always.

But if you think the reasons I'm giving for Arkansas winning are just ridiculous and silly, wait until it happens to one degree or the other this saturday. I'm just talking nonsense into the air. I've done my research.

Arkansas' defense will have a tough time with Alabama's offense. A successful day for the Arkansas defense would be giving up less than 300 yards total offense to alabama. I doubt any bama fan would be happy with that.

crimsonnation713
09-12-2007, 09:26 AM
That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to seem like an asshole.:glare:



Oh no need to worry there, you have that part well covered.:thumpsup:

nooneLT
09-12-2007, 09:27 AM
Like I said, I don't know why thinking my team is going to win and then reeling off the reasons why I think that makes me a homer. I'll say it for you guys, I'm a homer when it comes to Arkansas. I want them to and think they can win every week they play. Is that the reality? Not always.

But if you think the reasons I'm giving for Arkansas winning are just ridiculous and silly, wait until it happens to one degree or the other this saturday. I'm just talking nonsense into the air. I've done my research.

Arkansas' defense will have a tough time with Alabama's offense. A successful day for the Arkansas defense would be giving up less than 300 yards total offense to alabama. I doubt any bama fan would be happy with that.

nobody's saying your reasons for ark winning ridiculous and silly. ark has the best RB in the nation. their second string RB could start at most schools. those are all facts. but what's also facts are ark has a questionable QB and both Bama and Ark have questions on D. either team could win this game, i think it's very evenly matched. you can't call us Bama fans ridiculous and silly when we say we will win either. look at last year, we held mcfadden and jones for under 200 yards and the only reason we lost was tiffin.

you might say you have the advantage in the kicking game, but look at this way. last year tiffin was a freshman kicking in a hostile environment. your kicker, is a freshman this year and will be kicking in a hostile environment. so what, he went 4/4 against troy...at home...it will be a much different environment in BDS.

SWINETIME
09-12-2007, 11:05 AM
Hog fans are the most delusional I've seen. They've basically got 3 RBs and a WR, and the WR is hurt. Bama is better in all other phases of the game. And our RBs aren't bad. Funny, I see Arkansas equal or better at every position except QB.

SWINETIME
09-12-2007, 11:12 AM
Yes, the same damn defense that lost there last three big games last year. Alabama did lost that game last year not do to any fumble though. They lost that game do to the kicker. It shuoldn't of ever gone in to OT. My point is this Arkansas has the talent but seem to fold under pressure. They had the west last year and blew it. When Bama clearly fell out of the running I was praying the hogs could do it. I never even said who I thought was going to win this game. Powerade was just talking about all this loaded talent. The run game is great but they better come with more then just that. They have to go to the air make some big plays.
Yea, just like they folded against Auburn at Auburn. And then against Tennessee whe Gameday crew was there. Yea, the fold.

azamugg
09-12-2007, 11:16 AM
Funny, I see Arkansas equal or better at every position except QB.

no, whats funny is your a funny pig......... who apparently is blind or just not up to being objective about your sports

GTTiger
09-12-2007, 11:20 AM
Funny, I see Arkansas equal or better at every position except QB.

I believe that Bama has better WRs, OL, and QB. The surprising thing is that I'd still rather have Arkansas's offense. McFadden is just the biggest bad ass on the planet.

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 11:23 AM
I believe that Bama has better WRs, OL, and QB. The surprising thing is that I'd still rather have Arkansas's offense. McFadden is just the biggest bad ass on the planet.

i agree. Bama has a better QB,OL, and WRs but Ark still gets their yards.

sheluvsbama
09-12-2007, 11:28 AM
Funny, I see Arkansas equal or better at every position except QB.
Funny, but this exactly what I would expect an Arkansas fan to say...! :laugh:

bigsexxxy
09-12-2007, 11:29 AM
I believe that Bama has better WRs, OL, and QB. The surprising thing is that I'd still rather have Arkansas's offense. McFadden is just the biggest bad ass on the planet.

I love how the Arkansas fans(and everybody else that isn't a Bama fan) just conveniently forgets that they replace 3 offensive lineman. These 3 new offensive lineman are going to be playing their first SEC road game as starters this weekend. Even against our sorry DL, thats huge.

It might not be that much of a difference, but I tend to think it will be. If you don't believe me, just look at Auburn.

SWINETIME
09-12-2007, 11:34 AM
i agree. Bama has a better QB,OL, and WRs but Ark still gets their yards.
Yea, I agree about the WR's that was stupid to leave them out. But I beleive Arkansas's O-line is better. We will see.

razorhead
09-12-2007, 12:08 PM
I love how the Arkansas fans(and everybody else that isn't a Bama fan) just conveniently forgets that they replace 3 offensive lineman. These 3 new offensive lineman are going to be playing their first SEC road game as starters this weekend. Even against our sorry DL, thats huge.

It might not be that much of a difference, but I tend to think it will be. If you don't believe me, just look at Auburn.


Those 3 OL have played alot of snaps in SEC games already. If there is one thing Arkansas seems to reload on and have success with year in and year out it's the OL.

I will concede that Bama has better receivers, and a better QB (although that's not saying much).

bigsexxxy
09-12-2007, 01:01 PM
Those 3 OL have played alot of snaps in SEC games already. If there is one thing Arkansas seems to reload on and have success with year in and year out it's the OL.


We heard that exact same refrain from the Auburn fans before the season. How they were just going to "reload" their offense line and be fine. And then their QB got sacked 5 times in the opener.

For the most part, Arkansas DOES reload their offensive line. During Nutt's tenure, that's always been a strong point, I will concede you that. But what is that familiar saying? "Offensive lines need time to gel."

the Prodigy
09-12-2007, 05:41 PM
nobody's saying your reasons for ark winning ridiculous and silly. ark has the best RB in the nation. their second string RB could start at most schools. those are all facts. but what's also facts are ark has a questionable QB and both Bama and Ark have questions on D. either team could win this game, i think it's very evenly matched. you can't call us Bama fans ridiculous and silly when we say we will win either. look at last year, we held mcfadden and jones for under 200 yards and the only reason we lost was tiffin.

you might say you have the advantage in the kicking game, but look at this way. last year tiffin was a freshman kicking in a hostile environment. your kicker, is a freshman this year and will be kicking in a hostile environment. so what, he went 4/4 against troy...at home...it will be a much different environment in BDS.

I don't think Bama fans are silly and ridiculous. I just take exception to those that think my reasons for Picking Arkansas in a close one, are unfounded. They aren't.

I said in another thread it will come down to the kicking game, Arkansas' freshmen kicker Alex Tejada made two 62 yard field goals in a row less than 30 minutes ago. That being said, Kicking in Tuscaloosa will be a little different than kicking in Fayetteville for this Kid. I still would take him over any of Bama's kickers even though he is a freshman. That is a rarity, because this is the first time Arkansas has had a scholarship kicker in a long long time.

the Prodigy
09-12-2007, 05:44 PM
Funny, I see Arkansas equal or better at every position except QB.

I'd say player for player Bama has better WR's, QB's, and LB's. Arkansas has better OL's, DL's, S's, RB's, and TE's. CB's are a tossup and OL is really really close to a tossup.

Blake~BamaFan
09-12-2007, 06:50 PM
I'd say player for player Bama has better WR's, QB's, and LB's. Arkansas has better OL's, DL's, S's, RB's, and TE's. CB's are a tossup and OL is really really close to a tossup.

Lets get this right. Arky has a better defensive lineman get that, a better (meaning 1). Bama has 2 long time starter, wallace gilberry and bobby greenswood. Bama has better cbs, wrs, qb, lbs, and what could be a better sftey. Rashad Johnson has really impressed me with his hitting. He could be another roman harper or charlie peprah. Im not sure on TEs, b/c this is the 1st year that bama has really gone to there TEs. Nick Walker has slimmed down and looks like a got a little faster. Your right on the o line. But bamas whole line is either a jrs or sophs except one guy (justin britt). With bama having those young guys, we could expect a little confusion from them, but we dont. Thats how good they are, now i know its just the 3rd gm coming up but the o line is where u r going to 1st see confusion in ur offense. But either way this gm is going to be very close. The only way that this gm could get out of hand is if one team just totally takes them mometum out of the other team.

SECorBust
09-12-2007, 08:17 PM
I'll take Bama, not because of any one player in particular but because the team is balanced, disciplined and in tip top shape across the board. Every one of them runs tirelessly and hits like a train. RTR

shk999
09-12-2007, 09:18 PM
Red poweraid, I am really glad that you guys have THE BEST FOOTBALL PLAYER IN THE WORLD, and I am glad you guys have such great talent in other positions, and I am REALLY glad you are pointing all of this out to us because its now obvious that if Bama wins, you guys have no excuse, whatsoever. Now, its pretty ridiculous that in one post you talk down Vandy like they are nobody, then talk up Troy like they are somebody. Paint it anyway you like, they are Troy. I have nothing but respect for SuperMac, and I hope he does win a heisman, but after all the shit you have talked, you better hope he runs for 300 yrds and 5 touchdowns because its gonna be pretty hard to live down if our lousy, no talent bums shut him down and win that game, right? I saw where somebody said Grant runs for more yrds than SuperMac and got laughed at, well laugh away because it could very well happen. That said, I dont make predictions anymore, I turned my crystal ball into a water bong so I will just say I think it will be a great SEC matchup and I cant wait till kickoff. Later

The Ramp
09-12-2007, 09:20 PM
i'm saving this thread for whomever loses...LOL

razorhead
09-12-2007, 09:24 PM
Red poweraid, I am really glad that you guys have THE BEST FOOTBALL PLAYER IN THE WORLD, and I am glad you guys have such great talent in other positions, and I am REALLY glad you are pointing all of this out to us because its now obvious that if Bama wins, you guys have no excuse, whatsoever. Now, its pretty ridiculous that in one post you talk down Vandy like they are nobody, then talk up Troy like they are somebody. Paint it anyway you like, they are Troy. I have nothing but respect for SuperMac, and I hope he does win a heisman, but after all the shit you have talked, you better hope he runs for 300 yrds and 5 touchdowns because its gonna be pretty hard to live down if our lousy, no talent bums shut him down and win that game, right? I saw where somebody said Grant runs for more yrds than SuperMac and got laughed at, well laugh away because it could very well happen. That said, I dont make predictions anymore, I turned my crystal ball into a water bong so I will just say I think it will be a great SEC matchup and I cant wait till kickoff. Later

Come on man, he never talked down any of your players. He is just stating a case for the Hogs. This thread was predicated on bufoons like bamaperry talking stuff about Arkansas and how our players just don't match up. Don't get your feelings hurt because someone from the opposite side of the fence has a different opinion. RedPowerade has stated his opinions with class and defended them with solid reasoning. You don't have to agree, but you also don't have to take offense.

shk999
09-12-2007, 09:46 PM
Come on man, he never talked down any of your players. He is just stating a case for the Hogs. This thread was predicated on bufoons like bamaperry talking stuff about Arkansas and how our players just don't match up. Don't get your feelings hurt because someone from the opposite side of the fence has a different opinion. RedPowerade has stated his opinions with class and defended them with solid reasoning. You don't have to agree, but you also don't have to take offense.

Dude, you ever heard of Auburn? It will take alot more than what powerade said to offend me, come on. Were you offended by something in my post? I have the right to state my opinions too, right? I didnt talk down any of your players, matter of a fact I think I said I hope D-mac wins a heisman. If your buddy wants to approach this game with such arrogance, thats cool, but like I said if Bama wins he may have to eat a few words, like these words for example....

Just man up to the fact that Arkansas has the best player in the nation, and he's just straight up better than your guy, pick one, it doesn't matter who it is, he's better, and he's going to score on you. You can put 8 guys on him like Troy did and Felix Jones will beat the other three, if in fact all three of them can get into a position quick enough to make it interesting, and on top of that, the guy you were trying to stop while letting that OTHER GUY score on you is going to put up ronchy numbers on the ground anyway, probably passing on you with success a few times too. It's just the way it is.

razorhead
09-12-2007, 09:51 PM
I don't read every post. It gets too redundant and often times ridiculous on both sides. I will say that most of the trash talk Bama gets is brought on by the guy with the LSU sig line. Some people get on message boards looking for a fight. With all the crap going on with the Arkansas message boards I guess I'm a little oversensitized to trash talk. I've said my piece and I'm out. May the best team win.

shk999
09-12-2007, 10:00 PM
I don't read every post. It gets too redundant and often times ridiculous on both sides. I will say that most of the trash talk Bama gets is brought on by the guy with the LSU sig line. Some people get on message boards looking for a fight. With all the crap going on with the Arkansas message boards I guess I'm a little oversensitized to trash talk. I've said my piece and I'm out. May the best team win.

Actually, TD has been talking smack and starting bs threads since before we even played Vandy, even in the Bama forum, so I wont be so quick to put this on Perry.

redback65
09-13-2007, 12:11 AM
Actually, TD has been talking smack and starting bs threads since before we even played Vandy, even in the Bama forum, so I wont be so quick to put this on Perry.
Man I'm glad July & August is over. I've been waiting for these kind of discussions,debates,rivalary talks, and downhome smack talkin' since summer.
I'ts only gonna get better Saturday night on here. I've tried to keep low key on this game only stating my insights to what I feel could take place. But here's really is what is going to happen. Bama loses by a missed F.G. and finishes season undefeated. We win out,crush L.S.U. AT Deathvalley, win west & go on to beat Gaytors in sec champ.game. Go on to the national B.C.S. game and beat the living hell out of U.S.C./w and D# breaks Mustain's head after 2nd stringer is hurt. Darren wins Heisman and hands it to Offensive line. He gets 1# N.F.L. pick. Gets $30mil. contract and buys a rodeo clown school. Nutt goes to coach Ok.State. I've seen it it in the bottom of my coffee cup this morning so it must be true....... What did I have in my coffee? Well it was full of beans :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :wacko: II hope T.D. might appreciate this one.:thumpsup:

UAdan
09-13-2007, 12:40 AM
i'm saving this thread for whomever loses...LOL

It's certainly been an interesting one. :thumpsup:

shk999
09-13-2007, 02:13 AM
Man I'm glad July & August is over. I've been waiting for these kind of discussions,debates,rivalary talks, and downhome smack talkin' since summer.
I'ts only gonna get better Saturday night on here. I've tried to keep low key on this game only stating my insights to what I feel could take place. But here's really is what is going to happen. Bama loses by a missed F.G. and finishes season undefeated. We win out,crush L.S.U. AT Deathvalley, win west & go on to beat Gaytors in sec champ.game. Go on to the national B.C.S. game and beat the living hell out of U.S.C./w and D# breaks Mustain's head after 2nd stringer is hurt. Darren wins Heisman and hands it to Offensive line. He gets 1# N.F.L. pick. Gets $30mil. contract and buys a rodeo clown school. Nutt goes to coach Ok.State. I've seen it it in the bottom of my coffee cup this morning so it must be true....... What did I have in my coffee? Well it was full of beans :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :wacko: II hope T.D. might appreciate this one.:thumpsup:

:laugh: A+ on the sarcasm, I will say this, if Bama does manage to beat ARK, I'll feel like we have done something.

TDArkansasOhmy
11-25-2007, 02:37 PM
September 15th, 2007
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Bryant-Denny Stadium
Kickoff: 5:45 PM on ESPN

http://www.gnu-bee.com/football/logos/arkansas.gif
VS.
http://www.gnu-bee.com/football/logos/alabama.gif


I cannot think of another annual SEC matchup on either Alabama or Arkansas's schedule that always seems to greatly influence how the rest of the season plays out than the battle of the UA's itself. Because this game traditionally takes place early in the season, it almost always is a defining moment for both the Tide and the Hogs. The winner has used this game as a stepping stone, launching them to a successful SEC slate. The loser seems to feel the effects of this game for the remainder of the season. Take a look at some of the recent games:

2002: - Shaud Williams exploded through the Arkansas secondary on the first play from scrimmage for an 80-yard TD run, silencing the Hog faithful. Brodie Croyle, making his first career start, played well, and the Tide rolled 30-14.

End Result: While Arkansas didn't have that bad of a year, Alabama ended up better off at 10-2, and finished with the best record in the SEC West (although the Tide couldn't go to Atlanta due to NCAA sanctions)

2003: - After a pile-driving rainstorm delayed the game, Alabama jumped out to a commanding 31-10 lead in the 3rd quarter and appeared to have the game in cruise control. The Razorbacks miraculously fought back, scoring 21 unanswered points in the final quarter and a half and tied the game up at 31-31 with under a minute left in regulation. The Hogs won in double-overtime on a game-winning field goal, 34-31.

End Result: The Hogs finished at 9-4, capping their season off with a win over Missouri in the Independence Bowl. Alabama stumbled their way to a brutal 4-9 season.

2005: - A defensive battle for most of the game, Juwan Simpson's crucial interception led to DJ Hall's touchdown catch that sealed the deal for Bama's close win at home over the Razorbacks, 24-13.

End Result: Alabama had a wonderful season, ending out at 10-2 and Cotton Bowl champs. Arkansas finished a poor 4-7.

2006: - Alabama looked to be in a good position to win the game in Fayetteville, but Leigh Tiffin failed to make two field goals that would have been the go-ahead and potential game-winners for the Tide. In the second overtime, Alabama scored on a TD to Nick Walker, but Tiffin, in a nightmarish reoccurance, missed the extra-point. Arkansas then scored on a touchdown pass to Ben Cleveland. Jeremy Davis's extra-point was true, giving the Hogs the win as the crowd erupted with cheers. Arkansas 24, Bama 23.

End Result: Arkansas shocked the country by steamrolling through the SEC schedule, beating the likes of Auburn, South Carolina, and Tennessee, making it to Atlanta for the SEC Title game. The Hogs finished at 10-4. Alabama's heartbreaking loss to Arkansas led to the demise of the Mike Shula era as the Tide never recovered, limping their way to an embarrassing 6-7 season.

What happens this year? Time will tell, but one thing is for certain: This is an extremely crucial game for both teams.

It always is.

And add...

2007 - In front of a loud home sellout crowd, the Crimson tide jumped of to a quick start to take a fasr lead of the Razorbacks. After a turn over and score the Tide found themselves up 21 in the 1st quarter. But a rocky 2nd quarter the scoreless tide watch the Hogs put 10 points on the board to go in at halftime 21-10. Leigh Tiffin kicked a 24-yard field goal to start the 3rd quarter scoring and John Parker Wilson pass to Nick Walker made the score 31-10 before Arkansas went of a four straight touchdown run to take a 38-31 led mid way in the 4th quarter, and made the sell of depends undergarments a tio seller in T-Town. With a late FG. and a hail mary throw and catch in the final seconds the Tide pull off the upset win.
But this year as we know, the victor in this game was the one to go on to bite the dust. Losing their last four games, including to non conference power house Louisiana-Monroe, a school know for auto-repair, Alabama fell just a bit short of fans RICH expectations at 6-6.
As Arkansas went on the next week to lose to Kentucky, Oct 13th lost a close one to Auburn and November 10th to Tennessee in Knoxville. Hogs finish strong though with a 8-4 record.
So this wasn't a year in which it was a swing game for Alabama. Instead if was a Change game, which money change hands from the Alabama account to the Nick $aban account. If his the great coach you thought he was back in December of 06, then ask him for a refund. After all he did hoist any trophies over his head this season.

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Bama or go home
11-25-2007, 04:55 PM
Well we still beat arkansas and that's that. GET OVER IT!

UAdan
11-25-2007, 06:53 PM
And add...

2007 - In front of a loud home sellout crowd, the Crimson tide jumped of to a quick start to take a fasr lead of the Razorbacks. After a turn over and score the Tide found themselves up 21 in the 1st quarter. But a rocky 2nd quarter the scoreless tide watch the Hogs put 10 points on the board to go in at halftime 21-10. Leigh Tiffin kicked a 24-yard field goal to start the 3rd quarter scoring and John Parker Wilson pass to Nick Walker made the score 31-10 before Arkansas went of a four straight touchdown run to take a 38-31 led mid way in the 4th quarter, and made the sell of depends undergarments a tio seller in T-Town. With a late FG. and a hail mary throw and catch in the final seconds the Tide pull off the upset win.
But this year as we know, the victor in this game was the one to go on to bite the dust. Losing their last four games, including to non conference power house Louisiana-Monroe, a school know for auto-repair, Alabama fell just a bit short of fans RICH expectations at 6-6.
As Arkansas went on the next week to lose to Kentucky, Oct 13th lost a close one to Auburn and November 10th to Tennessee in Knoxville. Hogs finish strong though with a 8-4 record.
So this wasn't a year in which it was a swing game for Alabama. Instead if was a Change game, which money change hands from the Alabama account to the Nick $aban account. If his the great coach you thought he was back in December of 06, then ask him for a refund. After all he did hoist any trophies over his head this season.

http://www.sectalk.com/photoplog/file.php?n=318&w=l

I'm not sure what your motive is with this post, but congrats on your 8-4 season and good luck in your bowl game.