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GatorChomp
09-09-2007, 01:37 AM
Mark your calandars for October 6th. From the way things are going it looks like the top 3 teams will be USC, LSU and Oklahoma. All of these teams will have a great chance to go undefeated throughout the season. On October 6th 2 of these teams play what is likely to be their most difficult challenge of the season (excluding conference championship games).

Oklahoma plays Utah State, Tulsa and Colorado leading up to the 6th when they travel TO Texas. The three teams leading up to them do not offer much of a challenge. This will likely mean they will be 3rd or better in the nation. They travel to Texas for their toughest game of the year. In addition to their rivalry, which always gives the chance for an upset, Texas has a pretty good team this year and is playing at home. This game will likely make or break Oklahoma's championship hopes. If they win then they just have to get through Missouri, Iowa State, Texas A&M + Tech, baylor and Oklahoma State. Then after that the Big 12 Championship Game (Likely Nebraska or Missouri) Decent teams, but probably won't be able to match up with Oklahoma like Texas can.

In the SEC LSU has a much tougher road, but still one which they should dominate. LSU has already passed one of their larer hurdles for the year in beating Virginia Tech. Leading up to October 6th they play Middle Tennessee State, South Carolina and Tulane. After they play Kentucky, Auburn, Alabama, louisiana, Tech, Ole Miss, Arkansas and probably the SEC Championship game. A much tougher road than Oklahoma, but one where there are only a few teams which can truly challenge LSU. On October 6th LSU plays currently ranked 4th Florida at home. Florida has an explosive offense and a rivalry which can always offer the potential upset. That being said, LSU should thrash Florida's defense if it continues to play like it has and it should hold Florida to far fewer yards and points. There are 3 gams which seriously threat LSU. Florida, Arkansas (or possibly Alabama) and the SEC Championship .

Overall, this date has two matchups between (potential) Top 10 teams. Two of those likely in the top 3. This days games could determine one of the teams that is likely to play in the Championship game.

Ralliartist
09-09-2007, 02:08 AM
Great post! but you are forgetting one more game that might upset LSU. That's when the Gamecocks come to play in the bayou. Don't underestimate Spurrier, and with a defense like we got, it could be just as much a battle as it was today against Georgia.

scfan5338
09-09-2007, 09:42 AM
Great post! but you are forgetting one more game that might upset LSU. That's when the Gamecocks come to play in the bayou. Don't underestimate Spurrier, and with a defense like we got, it could be just as much a battle as it was today against Georgia.

Like you have been with the posts before..damn I HOPE you are right!!!!! If we can hang within 10-13 points within LSU, I'll be so freaking happy.

GatorChomp
09-09-2007, 02:21 PM
Heh, I think SC is a really good team this year, but I dont think they will have too much of a chance against LSU. Honestly, at this point I don't think Florida has much of a chance against LSU if they both play like they have been playing. I just think Florida has the BEST chance.

HitYourStride!
09-09-2007, 02:24 PM
is the Gamecocks/LSU game at night? If so, sorry Cocks its gonna be a long night.

Ralliartist
09-09-2007, 02:28 PM
well, I'm not predicting a win or a loss at this point, there is still 2 weeks till the game. I'm just saying that we can play with them. We need to fix a few things on offense and our defense is only going to get better. I don't think florida has much of a chance at all. Their defense will not stop the bengals and their offense will learn what it is like to not be able to move the ball well. I think it will be another great SEC defensive blood bath. I can't wait! But first we have to take care of some IN STATE bulldogs. lol.

GatorChomp
09-09-2007, 02:32 PM
You are crazy if you think the Gamecocks have a better chance at beating LSU than Florida.

SC doesn't have the offense to match up with LSU and Florida has a really good offense. If you don't think Florida will be able to move on them how can you possibly believe SC will? Florida's defense might be better by then, but who knows. One of our problems is just that our defense is young and inexperienced. Some good SEC games like UT and AU should help prepare them a little.

Ralliartist
09-09-2007, 02:38 PM
well, troy put way to many points on the board to my liking. I think whoever can play with LSU is going to have to have a phenominal defense. And right now that is USC. Florida better fix that problem. We still don't know really HOW GOOD your offense is because you've played 2 cupcakes. Go play a real defense first. Hopefully Tenn. gives you a fight, but I don't think their Defense is that great this year either. I think it will be a shootout just like the Cal game. Now when you go and play auburn, you should get some kind of test there. Then you have LSU. At this point I'm gonna stick with USC having the best shot until I see Florida in a REAL game.

D^3
09-09-2007, 04:17 PM
Mark your calandars for October 6th. From the way things are going it looks like the top 3 teams will be USC, LSU and Oklahoma. All of these teams will have a great chance to go undefeated throughout the season. On October 6th 2 of these teams play what is likely to be their most difficult challenge of the season (excluding conference championship games).

Oklahoma plays Utah State, Tulsa and Colorado leading up to the 6th when they travel TO Texas. The three teams leading up to them do not offer much of a challenge. This will likely mean they will be 3rd or better in the nation. They travel to Texas for their toughest game of the year. In addition to their rivalry, which always gives the chance for an upset, Texas has a pretty good team this year and is playing at home. This game will likely make or break Oklahoma's championship hopes. If they win then they just have to get through Missouri, Iowa State, Texas A&M + Tech, baylor and Oklahoma State. Then after that the Big 12 Championship Game (Likely Nebraska or Missouri) Decent teams, but probably won't be able to match up with Oklahoma like Texas can.

In the SEC LSU has a much tougher road, but still one which they should dominate. LSU has already passed one of their larer hurdles for the year in beating Virginia Tech. Leading up to October 6th they play Middle Tennessee State, South Carolina and Tulane. After they play Kentucky, Auburn, Alabama, louisiana, Tech, Ole Miss, Arkansas and probably the SEC Championship game. A much tougher road than Oklahoma, but one where there are only a few teams which can truly challenge LSU. On October 6th LSU plays currently ranked 4th Florida at home. Florida has an explosive offense and a rivalry which can always offer the potential upset. That being said, LSU should thrash Florida's defense if it continues to play like it has and it should hold Florida to far fewer yards and points. There are 3 gams which seriously threat LSU. Florida, Arkansas (or possibly Alabama) and the SEC Championship .

Overall, this date has two matchups between (potential) Top 10 teams. Two of those likely in the top 3. This days games could determine one of the teams that is likely to play in the Championship game.


I think LSU's toughest game will be @ Bama, they're only big road game. Florida isn't the same Florida as last year, i think they will get dominated in Baton Rouge.

As far as Oklahoma goes, don't underestimate Texas A&M or Oklahoma State. Either of them could upset OU.

USC.... well, there's no way they go undefeated. They're upcoming tough games.... AT Nebraska, AT Washington, AT Oregon, AT Cal, AT Arizona State before finishing up with UCLA at home. USC to me is the team that stands the best chance of losing 2 games this season. All their tough games are on the road, and this year, they are going to be tough. Nebraska, Washington, Oregon, Cal and UCLA are all tough teams this year. AND they play Notre Dame in South Bend this year, and while I certainly wouldn't bet on ND beating USC this year, who knows... maybe Weis can get the program turned around by then.

D^3
09-09-2007, 04:17 PM
By the way guys, I'm not sure ANY team in the SEC stands a chance beating LSU at home this year.

TDArkansasOhmy
09-09-2007, 05:49 PM
Great post! but you are forgetting one more game that might upset LSU. That's when the Gamecocks come to play in the bayou. Don't underestimate Spurrier, and with a defense like we got, it could be just as much a battle as it was today against Georgia.

Oh Gezz, here comes the fruit cakes. I knew it. We tried to be nice about it, gave you your time to celebrate with you friends down at Sam Druckers store, and now you are not only going to beat Georgia, but your plans also include beat #2 rank LSU in the crawfish pot.

Why is it you Hooterville misfits can accept a nice victory against a future very good SEC team in Georgia? You people sound like a bunch of Tornado Bait Bama fans at a Nick $aban News conference. I mean come on. Act like you been there before. There isn't a person in Hooterville today that will admit truthfully that the Gamecocks caught Georgia on a bad day.


So tell Sam to re-order more pickles for the pickle barrel. And put your best over-alls and cleanest feedbag shirt on, grease up your hair cause thanks to some questionable AP voting placing the Cocks at #18 in the nation after being NR the week before, your gonna be on the picture tube for the world to see once again. For god's sake this time don't embarrass us this time.

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SECorBust
09-09-2007, 06:13 PM
Oh Gezz, here comes the fruit cakes. I knew it. We tried to be nice about it, gave you your time to celebrate with you friends down at Sam Druckers store, and now you are not only going to beat Georgia, but your plans also include beat #2 rank LSU in the crawfish pot.

Why is it you Hooterville misfits can accept a nice victory against a future very good SEC team in Georgia? You people sound like a bunch of Tornado Bait Bama fans at a Nick $aban News conference. I mean come on. Act like you been there before. There isn't a person in Hooterville today that will admit truthfully that the Gamecocks caught Georgia on a bad day.


So tell Sam to re-order more pickles for the pickle barrel. And put your best over-alls and cleanest feedbag shirt on, grease up your hair cause thanks to some questionable AP voting placing the Cocks at #18 in the nation after being NR the week before, your gonna be on the picture tube for the world to see once again. For god's sake this time don't embarrass us this time.



Is this guy for real?

TD are you just trying to rile people up or do you honestly believe this G-bage?

Upsets at this stage of the season mean nothing unless you put a lot of stock in preseason rankings. Teams are still trying to uncover their true identity and more "ranked" teams will fall before the term "ranking" means anything at all.

Right now a battle between USC and LSU would be a battle between the top two teams in the SEC(East/West). There is no certain way to know that USC will lose, so you shouldn't act like no team can beat LSU. These out of conference games can give you a false sense of how a team is going to play, so look for some SEC evidence before claiming an SEC championship winner. South Carolina looks legit, so until proved otherwise anything is possible.

GatorChomp
09-09-2007, 06:31 PM
SC is the top team in the East? We will see..

Can't believe how many people are hopping on the SC bandwagon now that they beat Georgia.

The whole AP voters putting them at 17th and now everyone else. Good job, they beat a good team in Georgia. They still have 2 other good SEC East teams to pass before they can be considered the best in the East.

Ralliartist
09-09-2007, 08:16 PM
Is this guy for real?

TD are you just trying to rile people up or do you honestly believe this G-bage?

Upsets at this stage of the season mean nothing unless you put a lot of stock in preseason rankings. Teams are still trying to uncover their true identity and more "ranked" teams will fall before the term "ranking" means anything at all.

Right now a battle between USC and LSU would be a battle between the top two teams in the SEC(East/West). There is no certain way to know that USC will lose, so you shouldn't act like no team can beat LSU. These out of conference games can give you a false sense of how a team is going to play, so look for some SEC evidence before claiming an SEC championship winner. South Carolina looks legit, so until proved otherwise anything is possible.

THANK GOD FOR BAMA FANS!!! I got a buddy out here that is a bama fan in omaha with me and he has gotten me to like bama a lot more than I used too. But now after seeing that he's not the only smart one I've come across, I think bama just moved up to my 2nd fav team. You hit the nail on the head! I couldn't have made a better post myself. Thanks for being truthful!

Ralliartist
09-09-2007, 08:21 PM
SC is the top team in the East? We will see..

Can't believe how many people are hopping on the SC bandwagon now that they beat Georgia.

The whole AP voters putting them at 17th and now everyone else. Good job, they beat a good team in Georgia. They still have 2 other good SEC East teams to pass before they can be considered the best in the East.


Noone is saying that SC is the best team in the EAST. We are just trying to say that after the blood bath was done and over, it appears that SC has the best chance at beating LSU. SO FAR. Once everyone sees how Florida stacks up against some other SEC schools, then we'll be able to predict that game as well. As for now, we know nothing from the cupcakes they've played thus far.

GatorChomp
09-09-2007, 08:25 PM
Noone is saying that SC is the best team in the EAST. We are just trying to say that after the blood bath was done and over, it appears that SC has the best chance at beating LSU. SO FAR. Once everyone sees how Florida stacks up against some other SEC schools, then we'll be able to predict that game as well. As for now, we know nothing from the cupcakes they've played thus far.

I was talking about SECorBust

he said:
Right now a battle between USC and LSU would be a battle between the top two teams in the SEC(East/West).

shanksta13
09-09-2007, 08:27 PM
Noone is saying that SC is the best team in the EAST. We are just trying to say that after the blood bath was done and over, it appears that SC has the best chance at beating LSU. SO FAR. Once everyone sees how Florida stacks up against some other SEC schools, then we'll be able to predict that game as well. As for now, we know nothing from the cupcakes they've played thus far.

I know everyone will argue that we know nothing about the Gators yet, but I certainly know one thing for sure after watching our first two games. Tebow is one of the best quarterbacks I have ever seen. I can only think of two passes in the last 2 games where Tebow was the cause of the incompletion. One was high over a receiver during the Western Kentucky game and another was last night against Troy. He has made touch throws that I thought he wouldn't make for another 2 years and he is slinging the ball accurately downfield. In fact, he had one pass to Caldwell that was a sure TD that Caldwell just dropped. Even with that miscue, Tebow has thrown for over 500 yards, 6 TDs, almost a 75% completion percentage, no interceptions and has the second highest passing efficiency rating in the country. As impressive as all of that sounds, he's even more impressive to watch on the field. The stats in this case, don't even do justice to the player that he is. He is so poised you would think he has been around for years. Do the Gators have questions? Certainly, but Tim Tebow certainly isn't one of them anymore.

Ralliartist
09-09-2007, 08:34 PM
how can you say that? you haven't played a defense that has put any pressure on him at all. I'm not trying to diss superman, but come on. Everyone KNEW stafford would prevail and that he was possibly the best qb in the sec. Look what happens when he is under pressure and those short dump offs don't work. He was forced into making passes. I know he only threw for 1 int at the end of the game, but he's really lucky it wasn't more. I'm not taking anything away from stafford at all, but he was just overwhelmed last night and he is still unexperienced. The same will go for tebow until I see otherwise. Let him play against a ferocious Defense and see how he reacts before you claim he has no kryptonite. He is still young just like Stafford is.

shanksta13
09-09-2007, 08:38 PM
how can you say that? you haven't played a defense that has put any pressure on him at all. I'm not trying to diss superman, but come on. Everyone KNEW stafford would prevail and that he was possibly the best qb in the sec. Look what happens when he is under pressure and those short dump offs don't work. He was forced into making passes. I know he only threw for 1 int at the end of the game, but he's really lucky it wasn't more. I'm not taking anything away from stafford at all, but he was just overwhelmed last night and he is still unexperienced. The same will go for tebow until I see otherwise. Let him play against a ferocious Defense and see how he reacts before you claim he has no kryptonite. He is still young just like Stafford is.

Simply from the pinpoint accuracy he has and his decision making. He goes through his check downs as quickly as any QB I've seen in a while and he often hits his fourth or fifth checkdown receiver in about 3 seconds, which is pretty ridiculous. When he does get pressure he has a great feel for whether or not to take off and run for the marker or to scramble because he feels a receiver will break free and then launch it to him. His touch passing has been absolutely phenomenal, he's fitting it into the seam between the safety's, over the cornerback's shoulder where only his receiver can catch it, down low and away on the out route's, despite double coverage putting it where only his guy can make a play on it, and even dropping them in just over the linebackers and under the safeties. Trust me, I know enough football to know when I see a good quarterback. This kid is legit and anyone who doesn't think he can play with the best defenses in the SEC is in for a rude awakening. After all, look what he did last year as a true freshman.

shanksta13
09-09-2007, 08:39 PM
Oh and it doesn't hurt that he's playing behind one of the best offensive lines in the nation.

Ralliartist
09-09-2007, 08:42 PM
well, all I can say is we'll wait and see over the next few weeks. I couldn't come up with those assumptions myself over 2 cupcakes. but since you apparantely think he is that good, I'll have to pay more attention to next weeks game since mine won't be on t.v. anyway. I'll look for that heoric composure you speak of.

DELTOR
09-09-2007, 08:50 PM
SC is the top team in the East?

Yes, we are the top team in the East, statistically at 1-0 :D

SECorBust
09-09-2007, 08:52 PM
how can you say that? you haven't played a defense that has put any pressure on him at all. I'm not trying to diss superman, but come on. Everyone KNEW stafford would prevail and that he was possibly the best qb in the sec. Look what happens when he is under pressure and those short dump offs don't work. He was forced into making passes. I know he only threw for 1 int at the end of the game, but he's really lucky it wasn't more. I'm not taking anything away from stafford at all, but he was just overwhelmed last night and he is still unexperienced. The same will go for tebow until I see otherwise. Let him play against a ferocious Defense and see how he reacts before you claim he has no kryptonite. He is still young just like Stafford is.

Just between us SC, Florida, and Bama fans:

Timmy T is the real deal, sure he looks like superman mostly because of the opponent. But he is one of the best QB's in college ball already and in my book especially after the Marshall WVU game is the best Dual threat QB. The guy is good, but against SEC defenders he needs to choose how he ends his runs a little better. He likes to bulldoze, but he is the target for many LBs & DEs to hit.

Stafford, come on did youguys really buy the hype, I mean after the Talledega Photo shoot? He's a great passser but lacks the physical toughness for this league.

South Carolina is 2-0 until they are x-1 they are undefeated and can dream as big as the sky. SEC wins mean more than blowouts of lakeland middle school. Give them a break. That whole comment was directed toward TD's Flame anyway.

shanksta13
09-09-2007, 10:33 PM
Just between us SC, Florida, and Bama fans:

Timmy T is the real deal, sure he looks like superman mostly because of the opponent. But he is one of the best QB's in college ball already and in my book especially after the Marshall WVU game is the best Dual threat QB. The guy is good, but against SEC defenders he needs to choose how he ends his runs a little better. He likes to bulldoze, but he is the target for many LBs & DEs to hit.


For what it's worth, Tebow has been running out of bounds at the end of almost every run this year.