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TDArkansasOhmy
09-08-2007, 12:30 PM
That was a bush league call to nullify that touchdown. A conference to discuss a face mask? That is a game changing call. Too bad.

jthomas666
09-08-2007, 12:36 PM
The conference was to determine if the facemask occurred before or after the punt--that determines from where the penalty is enforced.

Bburton86
09-08-2007, 12:58 PM
Nickson won't set his feet on throws.

DonAU1124
09-08-2007, 01:08 PM
Nickson won't set his feet on throws.

He makes 1 good throw, then a couple of bad ones. If he would settle down and make the throws count he could be picking them apart.

Bburton86
09-08-2007, 01:09 PM
And on the bad throws it's not like he is getting any real pressure. He has all day to do what he wants. Doesn't make sense.

DonAU1124
09-08-2007, 01:13 PM
And on the bad throws it's not like he is getting any real pressure. He has all day to do what he wants. Doesn't make sense.

Yep, hopefully the coach will settle him down and get him to relax for the 2nd half

gatorunvrsty
09-08-2007, 01:13 PM
Bama hasn't looked too bad, except for JPW. He was really starting to stink up that 2nd quarter. The rest of the squad looks pretty good.

DonAU1124
09-08-2007, 01:14 PM
Bama hasn't looked too bad, except for JPW. He was really starting to stink up that 2nd quarter. The rest of the squad looks pretty good.

The 'O' line looks good and the running game looks really good, but if they cant throw it they could still lose this game.

jthomas666
09-08-2007, 01:17 PM
Nickson won't set his feet on throws.The commentators said something about him having a pulled calf muscle or something along those lines. That would make it difficult to plant and follow through. T

bamafan0001
09-08-2007, 01:18 PM
Thanks gator, this is more like the I hope Alabama loses thread...not gonna happen chumps! Roll Tide!!!

DonAU1124
09-08-2007, 01:21 PM
Thanks gator, this is more like the I hope Alabama loses thread...not gonna happen chumps! Roll Tide!!!

Of course I hope Vandy wins, but I gave them props, they have a really good running game.

razorhead
09-08-2007, 01:22 PM
No Hog fan should want Bama to lose. I want them to get a win and feel complacent next week. Besides, if Bama lost it would hurt our RPI.

GeauxTo
09-08-2007, 01:37 PM
Saban's defense has Nickson confused and bewildered.
Applewhite's offense has found their running back, and he is a good one.
Happy times in Bamaland!
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/GeauxTo/elephant-1.jpg

razorhead
09-08-2007, 01:44 PM
Happy times except they still have Tiffin.

jthomas666
09-08-2007, 01:45 PM
Saban's defense has Nickson confused and bewildered.
Applewhite's offense has found their running back, and he is a good one.
Happy times in Bamaland!
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/GeauxTo/elephant-1.jpg

I wouldn't go that far.

M2J
09-08-2007, 02:10 PM
That was a legit facemask on Nick Walker to nullify that TD

BamaFreak
09-08-2007, 02:15 PM
JP Wilson has had a bad day. The surprising thing to me is our defense. I never would have thought that we would hold Vandy to 3 points (the game is still going on, of course, but still....) Running game has been mostly good, too. Hey, I'll take this one because we have got a REAL test next week. I figure BAMA will open up this week as underdogs.

M2J
09-08-2007, 02:25 PM
Our defense has been a huge surprise, its been a major surprise. Our linebackers are flying around, the Dline has been huge, and our secondary has shown that we have little to worry about.

As for JP... he's thrown some good balls. Even on that play to DJ over the middle where he threw behind him, he made the right play as there were guys underneath that play that would've picked it off if he led him. He's thrown a few good deep balls that DJ should've brought in, and the INT... well it was a perfect pass for a set play, the Safety simply made a great play athletic play and catch on the ball

thethird
09-08-2007, 02:40 PM
Vandy will never have the depth to seriously compete for the SEC. Hats off too their defense though, they held as long as they could. Nixon was very disappointing.

M2J
09-08-2007, 02:47 PM
Vandy will never have the depth to seriously compete for the SEC. Hats off too their defense though, they held as long as they could. Nixon was very disappointing.


True... and yeah their defense got a lot of pressure on JP and rattled him a bit.

UAdan
09-08-2007, 02:53 PM
I see a lot of people bad-mouthing Vandy and Nickson, but I think Bama's D does deserve at least a little bit of credit. The pass rush was pretty good for most of the game. Nickson got beat up after releasing his passes. You could tell that he was rattled and rushing his throws because of the pressure. Give some love to the Bama front seven, folks! They went up against a very experienced O-line today and held their own.

I'm a little concerned about John Parker. He was sailing his passes against WCU last week and did so again today. I knew when he missed a wide open DJ Hall in the endzone that he was going to have a rough game. The thing I have noticed about him is that he isn't checking off enough. He tried to force the issue several times by squeezing a pass to DJ into double coverage instead of looking for a second option. Hopefully he can cut down on these mental mistakes. The good news is that he finally has a running game to back him up. Alabama wouldn't have won this game last year.

Kevhugh
09-08-2007, 02:54 PM
It's official...Vandy sucks again.

timNem
09-08-2007, 02:55 PM
Good game Vandy fans. Your D looked very good today.

UAdan
09-08-2007, 02:58 PM
Good game Vandy fans. Your D looked very good today.

I thought their secondary, in particular, played very well. They held their own against Bama's WR's and forced JPW into some of those mistakes he made. I like their aggressive play.

timNem
09-08-2007, 03:01 PM
I thought their secondary, in particular, played very well. They held their own against Bama's WR's and forced JPW into some of those mistakes he made. I like their aggressive play.They had a good scheme but we didn't spread it out as much as I thought we would. I think maybe we see more 3-4 WR and Shotgun sets next week.

nooneLT
09-08-2007, 03:01 PM
It's official...Vandy sucks again.

LOL the first of many as God forbid Bamaperry predicted.

timNem
09-08-2007, 03:03 PM
LOL the first of many as God forbid Bamaperry predicted.
Yeah,, they must suck since Bama beat them :laugh:

UAdan
09-08-2007, 03:05 PM
They had a good scheme but we didn't spread it out as much as I thought we would. I think maybe we see more 3-4 WR and Shotgun sets next week.

I hope we spread it out. JPW struggled throwing out of the 2-WR sets. I don't think we have seen all of the playbook yet, though. We saw a little more than last week, but probably not all of it.

JPW's gotta start checking off, though. DJ Hall isn't going to be open every single play, and so he needs to stop eyeing him all the time and forcing bad throws. I hope he gets it together for the Hogs.

M2J
09-08-2007, 03:06 PM
Yeah, but the Hogs secondary may not even be that good :laugh:

nooneLT
09-08-2007, 03:08 PM
he sure does look uncomfortable when there's a blitz coming. on one play he shoulda read blitz and he had dj in the slot just aching for a 1st down. but he got sacked instead. give credit to the vandy defense that kept JPW offbalanced most of the game.

Bamafan316
09-08-2007, 03:10 PM
Bama always has a good D. It's just the offense that struggles it's always been like that. I think with the all the new coaches coming in it's going to take JPW a little more time do get used to the new offense.

timNem
09-08-2007, 03:11 PM
I hope we spread it out. JPW struggled throwing out of the 2-WR sets. I don't think we have seen all of the playbook yet, though. We saw a little more than last week, but probably not all of it.

JPW's gotta start checking off, though. DJ Hall isn't going to be open every single play, and so he needs to stop eyeing him all the time and forcing bad throws. I hope he gets it together for the Hogs.Saban has that Unknown advantage on our opponents with them not having really a film to study our offense. I'm expecting as long as we are winning, it will stay semi-vanilla.

UAdan
09-08-2007, 03:15 PM
Saban has that Unknown advantage on our opponents with them not having really a film to study our offense. I'm expecting as long as we are winning, it will stay semi-vanilla.

Semi-vanilla tastes delicious with a victory on top. :thumpsup:

Crimson Kicker8
09-08-2007, 03:15 PM
Agood win for Bama, Vandy put up a good fight as always. I'm getting really excited watching Grant run the ball. If JPW can settle down and our defense strengthens up front I think we'll be a competitive force for the West. RTR.

TDArkansasOhmy
09-08-2007, 03:16 PM
Yeah, but the Hogs secondary may not even be that good :laugh:

And a true fan can admit that. Unlike the Satan,errrrr I mean Saban clones that can't see their own weakness cause of the swelling of their heads. But I can promise you this. Better do better next Saturday. Or your prince of darkness will have his arse handed to him. #18 Arkansas @ #1 Alabama, should be a good one.

timNem
09-08-2007, 03:18 PM
Prince of Darkness :laugh: Hey TD, I like that.

Bamafan316
09-08-2007, 03:25 PM
And a true fan can admit that. Unlike the Satan,errrrr I mean Saban clones that can't see their own weakness cause of the swelling of their heads. But I can promise you this. Better do better next Saturday. Or your prince of darkness will have his arse handed to him. #18 Arkansas @ #1 Alabama, should be a good one.

You know I don't think that most Bama fans are getting their heads swelled. We just like to see are team win what the hell we suppose to do. I think next week Arkansas should have the win with the talent they got, but they barely won that game last year with the same talent. Lets not forget either how Arkansas fell apart at the end of the season last year too.

M2J
09-08-2007, 03:39 PM
No choice but to admit it TD, their secondary is questionable (maybe the whole D). I am realistic enough to admit our weaknesses, but obviously the weakness we thought we'd have (defense) has stepped up and been extremely solid on all fronts (and Prince still didn't play a hell of a lot today). And its been a really good surprise, especially since the young D can only improve.

What has been maybe more of a suprise is that our preseason strength, has been our weakness. The Passing game, yet with a QB like JP (who hasn't been awful by any stretch, just hasn't been putting up the great stats), the deep receiving core, the great offensive line, and the running game for balance, demanding head coach too...well we can only expect that to improve aswell.

Though our D will have its hands full with your running game, your also questionable passing game should allow them to more easily focus on that. But it should tell us pretty much just how good our defense is.

gatorunvrsty
09-08-2007, 03:52 PM
That Terry Grant kid is a good RB, for sure. 173 yards on 24 carries works out to a 7.2 yard per carry average. I can't wait to see how he looks against some of the big boys. Plus, he's only a freshman.:thumpsup:

sheluvsbama
09-08-2007, 04:01 PM
That Terry Grant kid is a good RB, for sure. 173 yards on 24 carries works out to a 7.2 yard per carry average. I can't wait to see how he looks against some of the big boys. Plus, he's only a freshman.:thumpsup:
We are really proud of his performance,too. It is early in the year and he has lots of time to mature. It will be fun to watch him.

Kevhugh
09-08-2007, 04:04 PM
Yeah,, they must suck since Bama beat them :laugh:

Nah, I didn't mean to take anything away from Bama. I like them a lot so far. In fact, I think I'll take them over the Hogs next week. I was merely pointing out that this "guaranteed" upset that we had to listen to all summer never even came close to materializing. Vandy will not make a bowl game, period.

M2J
09-08-2007, 04:05 PM
Yeah, I thought for sure Upchurch would be our starter this year, he's been a huge surprise... He even proved that he can run up the middle and break some tackles this game (which I questioned). He's a star

HitYourStride!
09-08-2007, 04:35 PM
Bama still hasn't played an away game. LOL

VU#1
09-08-2007, 04:45 PM
dammit. how could vandy lose to bama by 14?
I thought vandy was better this year. Bama's one of the worst sec teams vandy's gonna play, and they lose by 2 td's.

timNem
09-08-2007, 04:47 PM
dammit. how could vandy lose to bama by 14?
I thought vandy was better this year. Bama's one of the worst sec teams vandy's gonna play, and they lose by 2 td's.I said it was going to be Bama by 3 tds . I felt like a genius until Vandy scored that late TD. Good game though.

sheluvsbama
09-08-2007, 05:06 PM
More experience for them. That translates to a good thing! :laugh:

bamaboy
09-08-2007, 06:49 PM
Bama always has a good D. It's just the offense that struggles it's always been like that. I think with the all the new coaches coming in it's going to take JPW a little more time do get used to the new offense.

ok. getting use to the new offense. like having d.j. open and missing him.
unfortunately, you can't shoot the gun if you don't have the bullets and jpw may need to sit the bench in the near future and let someone else have a chance.

sheluvsbama
09-08-2007, 07:21 PM
ok. getting use to the new offense. like having d.j. open and missing him.
unfortunately, you can't shoot the gun if you don't have the bullets and jpw may need to sit the bench in the near future and let someone else have a chance.
I am all for this idea! Let's get someone else working on taking over the offense.

M2J
09-08-2007, 08:03 PM
ok. getting use to the new offense. like having d.j. open and missing him.
unfortunately, you can't shoot the gun if you don't have the bullets and jpw may need to sit the bench in the near future and let someone else have a chance.



That's jumping the gun bigtime. On that pass, he was getting pressured and running to his right, that is a extremely hard throw when you're about to get hit. And like the announcers said during the game, on that INT it was just a good defensive play. I think the set play was to go towards that man all along and JP made the perfect throw, it was just a great defensive play, it was a high arching pass and the tall safety tipped it to himself and made a tough catch.

He's playing nowhere near bad enough to bench him or even discuss it, he's just not having the year we thought he would so far, he's not making that many mistakes.

The bigger problem in our passing attack this game was pass protection, they blitzed and guys got right through, if anything he did a great job avoiding some sacks. And I think getting him more options can only help in those situations, and use that receiving depth they have.

Commodore84
09-08-2007, 09:46 PM
Good game today, but having two huge plays called back seemed to suck most of the energy right out of us. Even despite that, a lot of times I felt that we were just on the edge of doing what we needed to do to turn the game around.

Terry Grant was pretty darn impressive.

BamaDude06
09-08-2007, 09:48 PM
ok. getting use to the new offense. like having d.j. open and missing him.
unfortunately, you can't shoot the gun if you don't have the bullets and jpw may need to sit the bench in the near future and let someone else have a chance.

Or you know, DJ can actually catch a ball too. There were a couple of passes he just flat out dropped/let the ball slip through his hands.

M2J
09-08-2007, 09:50 PM
I think the offense shapes up next week. Its a huge game, we're confident, and it's at home. I can see a lot of big plays.

sheluvsbama
09-08-2007, 09:56 PM
Inconsistency is JPW's problem. This is a very hard problem to overcome.

Mitch4bama
09-08-2007, 10:03 PM
I like our chances next week with Ark. Its the first big home game of the year and its a night game. Bryant-Denny is gonna get loud. If we can slow down Ark's running game and make them throw the ball, we have a really good chance of winning.

sheluvsbama
09-08-2007, 10:30 PM
I believe we will unleash a great running game, and it is time to see our DJ Hall make some really Superman catches! We know he can!

HitYourStride!
09-09-2007, 12:10 AM
I have a good fealing we haven't even seen half of our playbook.

M2J
09-09-2007, 12:19 AM
So do I... Hopefully they're holding it off for the tougher comp that is Arkansas and Georgia, and hopefully we know how to execute it

HitYourStride!
09-09-2007, 12:21 AM
I think we will see some end arounds and grant as a wide out, Johns will step back and play QB and actually throw it.

pvilleguru
09-09-2007, 01:46 AM
I think we will see some end arounds and grant as a wide out, Johns will step back and play QB and actually throw it.

i'm praying johns never gets to pass the ball. the last pass i saw him throw was AWFUL. talk about a wounded duck.

Tider27
09-09-2007, 03:04 AM
Overall a great game for Bama today. The running game looked excellent and another great performance by Terry Grant. I like the stretch blocking style we're using this season. It really does give Grant the cutback ability he needs and allows the line to use their athletic abilities. Arkansas will be a better challenge when it comes to a run defense, but it won't be by much.

My concerns going into next week is if our defense can stop the Arkansas running game. I am pretty confident that Coach Saban will have the defense ready for them. I'm not all that concerned about the passing game actually. We have all the tools there, so its not like we are struggling after one game. JP is a much better passer and when we open up the playbook this weekend with more WR's to throw to, it may resolve itself.

SECorBust
09-09-2007, 08:49 AM
No Hog fan should want Bama to lose. I want them to get a win and feel complacent next week. Besides, if Bama lost it would hurt our RPI.

hmm, complacent and Saban, kind of like oil and water don't you think? That's why he earns the big bucks. Everybody should have them a Saban!!

BAMAPERRY
09-09-2007, 08:52 AM
JPW had a bad game and we still won an SEC game, on the road, by two TDs. I'll take it. Remember how many people were predicting Bama to get beat last week?