If you hate Pete Carrol

[BamaFanNKy]

like I do.... it's hard to keep the hate with this. He is a pretty classy guy. Too bad he's at that thug school across town.

YouTube - USC/Idaho: One of the coolest things I had ever seen in FB (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zD2U9J4Nwj8)

[bigsexxxy]

That was really classy. Heard about that. Thanks for posting it. Kudos to Pete.

[Bburton86]

Wow, very cool. I almost stopped hating them for a moment.

[The Ramp]

<<still hates him

[sheluvsbama]

I just melted.

[BamaFanNKy]

I thought it was pretty cool....

[Yazzer]

DAMN--as much as I dislike the "pretend USC", you have to hand it to them--what a great move!!!

[True Grit]

It was a great thing to do, but really, most schools would have some type of tribute for a player on their team that passed away.

[Seppeh]

It was a great thing to do, but really, most schools would have some type of tribute for a player on their team that passed away.

So that is suppose to discredit it?

[TigersFanTaylor]

It was a great thing to do, but really, most schools would have some type of tribute for a player on their team that passed away.

Yes, schools would do some type of tribute, but I'm not sure a lot of coaches would do it during a game. I would have never thought to do something like that. This one was all Pete Carrol, and it was very respectful.

[volimhtown]

WOW...if that doesn't give you chills, you don't have a pulse!!
Kudos to Carrol!!

[timNem]

Pete Carrol is cool.

[gatorunvrsty]

Please, Carrol's about as classy as a beer-fart. First, any team or school would have a tribute for a fallen player... even if he'd gotten drunk and fallen off a cliff. Second, Carrol probably had very little to do with it. And, third, none of that diminishes all the recruiting violations and infractions he regularly commits. Give me a break.:dry: Great tribute, despite Carrol.

[OmahaBound]

Please, Carrol's about as classy as a beer-fart. First, any team or school would have a tribute for a fallen player... even if he'd gotten drunk and fallen off a cliff. Second, Carrol probably had very little to do with it. And, third, none of that diminishes all the recruiting violations and infractions he regularly commits. Give me a break.:dry: Great tribute, despite Carrol.

Kudos for showing us what real class is, GU. :thumpsup:

[palmettocock]

Please, Carrol's about as classy as a beer-fart. First, any team or school would have a tribute for a fallen player... even if he'd gotten drunk and fallen off a cliff. Second, Carrol probably had very little to do with it. And, third, none of that diminishes all the recruiting violations and infractions he regularly commits. Give me a break.:dry: Great tribute, despite Carrol.


You're an excellent human being

[AUFootball24]

What reason is there to hate Pete Carrol, besides jealousy? He's never been an unclassy individual and I've never had any problems with him as a coach. I'm not to fond of his team, but that's mostly because they won't stop winning.

[The Ramp]

What reason is there to hate Pete Carrol, besides jealousy? He's never been an unclassy individual and I've never had any problems with him as a coach. I'm not to fond of his team, but that's mostly because they won't stop winning.

i remember him getting caught on tape screaming across the sidelines at Joe Bellotti to "Go F*&k yourself "after Oregon converted a fourth down. He then proceeded to run the score up to prove his point. I also loved how he was throwing the ball on fourth down on Ark when he was up a gazillion points. I also love how he avoids NCAA infractions with one of the most corrupt programs in the NCAA.

:soapbox:

[The Ramp]

here is the classy Pete...

YouTube - Pete Carroll says 'Fuck you' to Mike Bellotti (http://youtube.com/watch?v=VqmmxOsJW1Y)

[AUFootball24]

here is the classy Pete...

YouTube - Pete Carroll says 'Fuck you' to Mike Bellotti (http://youtube.com/watch?v=VqmmxOsJW1Y)

Never heard that before. I've said that a time or two in my lifetime, and I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say I bet you have as well.

Doesn't define a person, really.

[The Ramp]

Never heard that before. I've said that a time or two in my lifetime, and I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say I bet you have as well.

Doesn't define a person, really.

of course you haven't heard of it...espn loves ole petey. anyone else this would have been headline news. sure you and i have done it, but have you ever seen a coach do that to another DURING a game? and i certainly don't do it at my place of business.

[AUFootball24]

of course you haven't heard of it...espn loves ole petey. anyone else this would have been headline news. sure you and i have done it, but have you ever seen a coach do that to another DURING a game? and i certainly don't do it at my place of business.

I'm a Buccaneers fan. Jon Gruden has done much worse than that during a game, and during practices, and during team meetings, and probably at family dinners. I guess I'm used to it, LOL.

[JerseyVol]

I like Carrol...I actually have nothing against USCw. In fact I love their uni's.

But I can't stand the USC lovefest...especially from ESPN. Three BCS Nat'l titles in five years? Try one in five ESPN!

[gatorunvrsty]

You're an excellent human being

Thanks. This is how I see the tribute unfolding: It sounds like something another kicker would come up with; so the kicker or holder presents the idea to the coach. The coach, being the POS he is, considers all the possible ramifications, at length, of allowing his team to take the 5-yard penalty and possibly missing the extra point. Then, after deciding that it wasn't very risky to do it (considering the opponent is Idaho, and it's likely just one of what will be several extra point tries that day), he gives the OK. Like I said, it was a fitting and poignant tribute... let's just not get all blubbery over Carroll. He's shown his true colors on more than one occasion. I only have to remember the loss last year to UCLA, and the Reggie Bush fiasco to know what kind of human being he is. And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

[OmahaBound]

Since apparently this is common knowledge on message boards but hidden by ESPN, I have to ask for someone to enlighten me. What are these NCAA infractions that Carrol and SoCal have committed?

I've of course heard of the Reggie Bush deal, but that was between an agent and Bush's family. From everything I've heard that sounds like it had zero to do with him coming to SoCal and everything to do with this guy wanting to be his agent once he left for the NFL.

What else is out there?

[The Ramp]

Since apparently this is common knowledge on message boards but hidden by ESPN, I have to ask for someone to enlighten me. What are these NCAA infractions that Carrol and SoCal have committed?

I've of course heard of the Reggie Bush deal, but that was between an agent and Bush's family. From everything I've heard that sounds like it had zero to do with him coming to SoCal and everything to do with this guy wanting to be his agent once he left for the NFL.

What else is out there?

good lord....just google it...from Joe McNight talking to Reggie Bush to John Papadakis to DeWayne Jarrett's apartment to Brandon Ting's steriods to Reggie Bush's parents house. Tell me he didn't know about any of this?

[volimhtown]

of course you haven't heard of it...espn loves ole petey. anyone else this would have been headline news. sure you and i have done it, but have you ever seen a coach do that to another DURING a game? and i certainly don't do it at my place of business.

What??? The same guy who defended Miles' retarded ramblings in the off season is gonna crucify a coach for getting emotional when he's caught up in the heat of battle?? You're gonna have a hard time finding ANY coach at ANY level who hasn't been guilty of the same and you are a hypocrite if your gonna judge him for that!!
If you don't like the guy, you don't like the guy, but don't come with lame crap like this!! He doesn't control what ESPN does, so you can't use that logic!! And let he who supports the squeaky clean program cast the first stone westward..... that's what I thought!!
To everybody: Puuhhlease don't insult elementary logic by coming in here and trying to make that claim!! If you believe ANY SEC or big time program is free from sin, you are an IDIOT!! Just because you don't always get caught with your hand in the cookie jar doesn't mean it wasn't there!!
Caroll has always struck me as a pretty decent guy!! More importantly, his value can be seen rather than heared!! Very rare in this day and time!! He gets points for that!!

[The Ramp]

What??? The same guy who defended Miles' retarded ramblings in the off season is gonna crucify a coach for getting emotional when he's caught up in the heat of battle?? You're gonna have a hard time finding ANY coach at ANY level who hasn't been guilty of the same and you are a hypocrite if your gonna judge him for that!!
If you don't like the guy, you don't like the guy, but don't come with lame crap like this!! He doesn't control what ESPN does, so you can't use that logic!! And let he who supports the squeaky clean program cast the first stone westward..... that's what I thought!!
To everybody: Puuhhlease don't insult elementary logic by coming in here and trying to make that claim!! If you believe ANY SEC or big time program is free from sin, you are an IDIOT!! Just because you don't always get caught with your hand in the cookie jar doesn't mean it wasn't there!!
Caroll has always struck me as a pretty decent guy!! More importantly, his value can be seen rather than heared!! Very rare in this day and time!! He gets points for that!!


i've only said this 100 times...Les turned away from the microphone and said that to the guy next to him. the media overheard it and blew it out of proportion. besides i never claimed that Les was Mr. Squeaky Clean classy. every program cheats...USC does it better than everyone else at a grander scale. to volimhtown: Puuhlease don't insult elementary logic by coming in here and trying to defend this guy. If you think Carroll is classy because he's better at cheating, you are an IDIOT!!

[gatorunvrsty]

What??? The same guy who defended Miles' retarded ramblings in the off season is gonna crucify a coach for getting emotional when he's caught up in the heat of battle?? You're gonna have a hard time finding ANY coach at ANY level who hasn't been guilty of the same and you are a hypocrite if your gonna judge him for that!!
If you don't like the guy, you don't like the guy, but don't come with lame crap like this!! He doesn't control what ESPN does, so you can't use that logic!! And let he who supports the squeaky clean program cast the first stone westward..... that's what I thought!!
To everybody: Puuhhlease don't insult elementary logic by coming in here and trying to make that claim!! If you believe ANY SEC or big time program is free from sin, you are an IDIOT!! Just because you don't always get caught with your hand in the cookie jar doesn't mean it wasn't there!!
Caroll has always struck me as a pretty decent guy!! More importantly, his value can be seen rather than heared!! Very rare in this day and time!! He gets points for that!!


All that is your opinion, too. And, regardless of whether or not "all" programs do it, that doesn't necessarily mean all coaches do, or are aware of it. Additionally, if it came out that Meyer was doing that, I'd be ashamed of my team, and would fire off some letters and e-mails "expressing" my displeasure and lack of confidence in the staff. And, the fact that other programs do it also doesn't relieve Carroll of the scrutiny he deserves for those actions. He doesn't get a bye because others are guilty of it. I'm an equal-opportunity hater, and am as abusive towards other programs I perceive as crooked... I hate Auburn, ThugU, and F$U, too.:thumbs:

And the ramp's right... it doesn't take a whole lot of research to find the plethora of shady dealings.

[sheluvsbama]

What??? The same guy who defended Miles' retarded ramblings in the off season is gonna crucify a coach for getting emotional when he's caught up in the heat of battle?? You're gonna have a hard time finding ANY coach at ANY level who hasn't been guilty of the same and you are a hypocrite if your gonna judge him for that!!
If you don't like the guy, you don't like the guy, but don't come with lame crap like this!! He doesn't control what ESPN does, so you can't use that logic!! And let he who supports the squeaky clean program cast the first stone westward..... that's what I thought!!
To everybody: Puuhhlease don't insult elementary logic by coming in here and trying to make that claim!! If you believe ANY SEC or big time program is free from sin, you are an IDIOT!! Just because you don't always get caught with your hand in the cookie jar doesn't mean it wasn't there!!
Caroll has always struck me as a pretty decent guy!! More importantly, his value can be seen rather than heared!! Very rare in this day and time!! He gets points for that!!
Another SoCal fan, and I can't blame you. They are awesome and their coach is fine and a very major reason why they are. We all know there is corruption in all the conferences. ESPN loves a winner. It is plain and simple. We will all live with that fact until someone upstages USC and ESPN turns their fickle love elsewhere.

[gatorunvrsty]

Another SoCal fan, and I can't blame you. They are awesome and their coach is fine and a very major reason why they are. We all know there is corruption in all the conferences. ESPN loves a winner. It is plain and simple. We will all live with that fact until someone upstages USC and ESPN turns their fickle love elsewhere.

The fact that it goes on elsewhere doesn't absolve Carroll or USC.

[The Ramp]

do i think carroll's an evil ogre?...no
do i think he's classy?...no
do i think he runs the dirtiest program in sports?...yes
do i think he's a good coach?...of course

[KillerNut]

Pete Carroll is a POS IMHO. The guy doesn't even "coach" his team because all of his assistants do it for him. He doesn't even put fourth 5% of the effort that all of the other D1 coaches do. Southern Cal has to be the most shadiest program in the country by far just look at the points brought up by Ramp and GU. People want to ridicule Troy Smith for taking $500 dollars from a booster and then paying it back while Reggie Bush took a couple hundred thousand and its no big thing. WTF? If you noticed, when the allegiations came up about RB, his family, and him possible losing his Heisman, ESPN said nothing to very little about this and it wasn't more than a week later that the sportswriters were hush-hush on this. So Cal has been corrupt since the 1960's when they secretly got donations from celebrities for recruting. Woody Hayes even called out the USC program about being corrupt after OSU beat USC in the rose bowl in 1974. No wonder USC getting all these recruits because they probably get a nice paycheck to sign a L.O.I.

[sheluvsbama]

The way of the world...oops, I mean the way of the world with money...!

[gatorunvrsty]

The way of the world...oops, I mean the way of the world with money...!

...and no morality or principles, not to mention no accountability.

[OmahaBound]

good lord....just google it...from Joe McNight talking to Reggie Bush to John Papadakis to DeWayne Jarrett's apartment to Brandon Ting's steriods to Reggie Bush's parents house. Tell me he didn't know about any of this?

McKnight now denies that he spoke with Bush and that he misspoke. Probably BS, but doesn't sound like you're going to prove anything there. And even if you could, why shouldn't a kid be able to get the full story on possible violations. The source I read said it was a conference call where Bush explained the investigation into his dealings and explaining why it shouldn't be a problem for SoCal. Maybe that's against the rules, but it shouldn't be.

The Jarrett apt deal is total BS. Why should rich parents (Leinart) not be allowed to help with their kid's and good friend/roommate's rent? If this happened to any regular student would anyone think it was awkward? Again, maybe against the rules but one that all your schools can be breaking and I wouldn't care. It's not like the Leinart's were offering recruits free room and board or something.

The Ting brothers were taking steroids. They got caught, and they left the team. Again, how is this a negative for Pete Carrol? They didn't cover it up or let them play after the fact.

Bush's parents getting a house and what not is obviously an EGREGIOUS violation. He should be stripped of his Heisman and records during that last year should be taken off the books....but AGAIN, how is this a Pete Carrol issue? How often do you think Meyer, Spurrier, Miles, et al go to the family homes of their players after they've already been on the team? Yeah, not that often I'd imagine. So is really that hard to believe that Carrol didn't know? MAYBE he did, but no one has any proof.

The ONE example out of those you listed that I'll agree with is the Papadakis restaurant situation. Carrol had to have known about that one and was probably even there. Is it severe enough to label Carrol classless and SoCal the dirtiest program in the NCAA? Not at all in my opinion.

Out of the examples I've seen, if SoCal is the dirtiest program in the NCAA then D1 must be pretty clean these days. So I guess I hope they really are the dirtiest...it's just not as bad as some are making it sound.

[BamaFanNKy]

You get a couple of NC and you become a c**k. No offence USCe.

[KillerNut]

I were from Louisiana, I would dis-own Joe McKnight and John David Booty

[The Ramp]

USC's name keeps popping up for these sorts of things despite ESPN's best efforts...tip of the iceberg....tip of the iceberg...i doubt ole petey was clueless for any of these issues. u keep speeding and eventually you'll get caught.

[LSU PRIDE]

<<still hates him

haha me too