Brandon Cox

[GeauxTo]

Are you Barners still sold on Brandon Cox? He's not hurt and he' still not good. He cannot, repeat, cannot, throw the long ball. Do you have a backup with some skills? Cox still seems fragile and I don't see him making it after a couple of tough SEC games. He's a smart kid and a respected leader, I think, but he just doesn't have the requisite skills to be a successful SEC QB.

[Kevhugh]

If he gets hit by LSU as much as he did by KSU he'll fold like a paper tent. I've said all along this kid is terrible. He certainly didn't do anything to convince me otherwise last night.

[The Ramp]

I'm not a Cox fan either but the kid never had time to throw. They couldn't run the ball either to help him out. He is one tough SOB though....

[bamafan0001]

pretty sure he already is a sucessful sec qb

[AUFootball24]

He's 21-5 as a starter, but he'll never be successful.

Cox is a good quarterback, but not a great athelete. ESPN put up a chart in the 3rd quarter of last night's game, Cox had been sacked 5 times and pressured 8 times. Again, this is mid way through the 3rd. Any drop back pro-style quarterback will struggle under those conditions, and Cox isn't known for his ability to ad lib and create something out of nothing.

Put him in the right situation and he's as good as any QB in the SEC. Give him no time to throw and constant pressure, and he's not the right type of quarterback to succeed in that situation.

[AUFootball24]

He cannot, repeat, cannot, throw the long ball.

Nor does he have to. Auburn runs a west coast offense. You should know better than to make a silly statement like that. :happy:

[The Ramp]

I'm pretty sure they throw the long ball in a "West Coast" offense. No one runs the exact same offense that Bill Walsh created back in the 80's.

[AUFootball24]

I'm pretty sure they throw the long ball in a "West Coast" offense. No one runs the exact same offense that Bill Walsh created back in the 80's.

Auburn very rarely throw the bomb, at most you'll see 15-20 yard routes.

[The Ramp]

Auburn very rarely throw the bomb, at most you'll see 15-20 yard routes.

Campbell threw some back in 2004

[GeauxTo]

Auburn very rarely throw the bomb, at most you'll see 15-20 yard routes.

That's because Cox doesn't have the arm for it.
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[C_hris]

Im not so worried about the vistor team advantge thats been going on for such a ong time in "College Football's oldest Rilvary" this year.

[AUFootball24]

That's because Cox doesn't have the arm for it.
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I forgot we were dropping bombs left and right when Campbell was QB, my bad...:unsure:

[sheluvsbama]

Should be a "barn burner"! :laugh:

[AUFootball24]

Im not so worried about the vistor team advantge thats been going on for such a ong time in "College Football's oldest Rilvary" this year.

One game in, we might as well not even play the rest, because we've seen all that we need to see and certainly nothing will change between now and January.

[gatorunvrsty]

Should be a "barn burner"! :laugh:

Who's the witty chick? :unsure:

[The Ramp]

I forgot we were dropping bombs left and right when Campbell was QB, my bad...:unsure:

you must have a different memory than me. i remember him throwing the bomb every now and then.

[AUFootball24]

you must have a different memory than me. i remember him throwing the bomb every now and then.

I don't remember. Many of the big plays in 04 came from passes to the TE's and backs, and rarely ever would you see a WR more than 20 yards downfield.

EDIT: Here is a complete highlight of the big plays of the 2004 season. There's only one deep ball on here, at about 2:40 in against Tennessee.

YouTube - Auburn 2004 Season Highlights (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lOwG3qVTnQE)

[WarEagle73]

Brandon Cox will not go down in the books as one of the best Auburn QB's. That much we are sure of. He will probably go down as one of the winningest though. That will probably be overlooked by most. He showed something along with the rest of the team Saturday night that I think most here are also overlooking in their attempt to write of the "Barn" in 07. They were rusty, had several players taking the field for the first time, they made mistakes that I doubt will be seen next week (just like anyone else that has played a real team thus far :dry: ) but in the end, when they were down and time was running out they did what we've seen Auburn do time and again. They dug down and found a way to win. They didn't buckle under the pressure. They stepped up and won the game when they had to or lose. Wile Brandon Cox will never be know as a Joe Montana, he did put together a brilliant drive against a very solid defense and won the game. The defense only gave up one touchdown all night and that was on a drive that featured trick plays to be sucessful. Does Auburn have issues that must be address? Of course. Every team in the SEC does. I think I've figured out one main reason so many here really hate Auburn. I think it is due to the fact that even when they are not playing good they usually find a way to fight and claw and come out with a win. And that drives certain people to distraction.

[sheluvsbama]

Who's the witty chick? :unsure:

:laugh: You have a short memory, baby!:wub:

[gatorunvrsty]

:laugh: You have a short memory, baby!:wub:

Oh yeah, you're that girl who was cheering for GATORS yesterday... now I remember.:ohmy:

[GeauxTo]

but in the end, when they were down and time was running out they did what we've seen Auburn do time and again. They dug down and found a way to win. They didn't buckle under the pressure. They stepped up and won the game when they had to or lose.

You're absolutely right about that. Over the years, Auburn has done that several times. When you thought it was a lost cause and time was running out, they dug down deep and found what they needed. Such Auburn heroics can be traced all the way back to the Pat Dye days. However, I do think Tubby has the best knack for it. As unlikable as he is to me as an LSU fan, he is one helluva coach... no doubt about that.

[sheluvsbama]

Oh yeah, you're that girl who was cheering for GATORS yesterday... now I remember.:ohmy: How dare you spill my secrets to the world? And now everyone knows you were with a Bama fan. You have scandalized us both!:ohmy:

[gatorunvrsty]

How dare you spill my secrets to the world? And now everyone knows you were with a Bama fan. You have scandalized us both!:ohmy:

Uuuummm, I think that "secret's" been out for awhile.

BTW, Cox is pretty bad. Auburn hasn't won a single game BECAUSE of him, for sure. I'll have to respectfully disagree with ol' ramp, too; because while repeatedly getting up from a sack certainly COULD indicate toughness, it doesn't seem so tough when you go down if a DL even farts in your direction.

[AUTiger94]

Uuuummm, I think that "secret's" been out for awhile.

BTW, Cox is pretty bad. Auburn hasn't won a single game BECAUSE of him, for sure. I'll have to respectfully disagree with ol' ramp, too; because while repeatedly getting up from a sack certainly COULD indicate toughness, it doesn't seem so tough when you go down if a DL even farts in your direction.
I would venture to say that we wouldn't have won the 05 UGA game w/o him. 4th and 12 and fires a strike to Aromashadu for a HUGE play w/ the game on the line. THe guy has to have a running game and weapons at WR to be effective. Our OL and Receivers have taken a step back since then.

[gatorunvrsty]

I would venture to say that we wouldn't have won the 05 UGA game w/o him. 4th and 12 and fires a strike to Aromashadu for a HUGE play w/ the game on the line. THe guy has to have a running game and weapons at WR to be effective. Our OL and Receivers have taken a step back since then.

OK, I exaggerated for effect, about not winning a single game with his arm... every dog has his day. But the kid just seems injury-prone to me. Yesterday, after a particularly light hit, he laid on the ground for what seemed like minutes before "remembering" he was supposed to act hurt and grabbed his right shoulder. I don't know if it's melodrama worthy of a Daytime Emmy Award, or if he's just soft; but, he either acts hurt to garner attention and the appearance of sacrificing himself for the team, or he's playing the wrong sport, and needs to take up golf.

[AUFootball24]

OK, I exaggerated for effect, about not winning a single game with his arm... every dog has his day. But the kid just seems injury-prone to me. Yesterday, after a particularly light hit, he laid on the ground for what seemed like minutes before "remembering" he was supposed to act hurt and grabbed his right shoulder. I don't know if it's melodrama worthy of a Daytime Emmy Award, or if he's just soft; but, he either acts hurt to garner attention and the appearance of sacrificing himself for the team, or he's playing the wrong sport, and needs to take up golf.

I do agree with you and noticed myself he seemed a little slow getting up from the hit you reference, but even you must admit that he took a beatdown time and time again all game long and always kept coming back.

[aufan]

I'm not a Cox fan either but the kid never had time to throw. They couldn't run the ball either to help him out. He is one tough SOB though....
This thread seems to have turned into how deplorable Cox is...I think the above quote says it....he may not be the best QB, but come on that offensive line was the worst....no QB is goona look good with that O-line...give him SOME time in the pocket and he is very accurate...O-line absolutely needs serious work

[zorak34]

The only thing I'm tired of his Cox is like a deer in the headlights when a DL comes at him. For some reason he forgets to throw the ball away. It doesn't help that he is a cemented pole stuck in the ground and can't get away from a 300 lb DL. He is smart when it comes to changing plays but he has average skill. All I can say is I can't wait till Kodi Burns starts. Jason Campbel was good because he had above average passing skills and he could move faster than a beached whale unlike Cox! It's not all Cox's fault though if we has USC O line I'm sure Cox can get stats like all the past USCal qb's. Instead he only gets half a second to look around to throw the ball. Our offense should do more three TE setts and make people pay for stacking the box and blitzing.

[zorak34]

I forgot to note that Cox is a greatly accurate passer... when he has more than half a second to throw.

[timNem]

I forgot to note that Cox is a greatly accurate passer... when he has more than half a second to throw.I think yall understand now how frustrating it is to have a woeful O Line. :thumpsup:

[AuburnPawnTiger]

I don't know why everyone thinks Cox had no time to throw... No one came on a free release, untouched. Cox has minimal concept of moving within the pocket to find a different throwng lane. In 2005, his most successful year, he could drop straight back and wait for someone to get open... we had recievers that could get open early and an amazing O-line. Last year and this year (so far) the line and recievers haven't haven't been able to provide him that luxury. I don't know what kind of coverage K-state was running but I do know our recievers weren't open early. I do know that on the go-ahead drive Cox went to 3 step drops and quick throws. That may be the only recipe for success we have this year through the air.

Personally, I was disappointed in our offense. I have been defending brandon for years, dating back to high school when our teams were in the same area. I am not sure what went wrong Saturday, but I think it was a combination of the things I listed above. Luckily it was the first game and I think we can get better. Like many have said, Auburn finds ways to win games in which they were outplayed. Thats great, but I want to outplay the other team and win the game. Maybe K-state goes on to win ten games this year and that proves to be a quality win. I hope so. I hope we get better, the schedule doesn't get any easier.

Win or Lose..... War Damn Eagle

[zorak34]

I don't know why everyone thinks Cox had no time to throw... No one came on a free release, untouched. Cox has minimal concept of moving within the pocket to find a different throwng lane. In 2005, his most successful year, he could drop straight back and wait for someone to get open... we had recievers that could get open early and an amazing O-line. Last year and this year (so far) the line and recievers haven't haven't been able to provide him that luxury. I don't know what kind of coverage K-state was running but I do know our recievers weren't open early. I do know that on the go-ahead drive Cox went to 3 step drops and quick throws. That may be the only recipe for success we have this year through the air.

Personally, I was disappointed in our offense. I have been defending brandon for years, dating back to high school when our teams were in the same area. I am not sure what went wrong Saturday, but I think it was a combination of the things I listed above. Luckily it was the first game and I think we can get better. Like many have said, Auburn finds ways to win games in which they were outplayed. Thats great, but I want to outplay the other team and win the game. Maybe K-state goes on to win ten games this year and that proves to be a quality win. I hope so. I hope we get better, the schedule doesn't get any easier.

Win or Lose..... War Damn Eagle


By biggest thing against Cox is he doesn't know when to throw it away when there is nothing open. It's like he rather get hit and lose 10 yards then throw it in the stands.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

If Brandon has a tough time again with USF, I will admit that this year could be long for him. He showed great potential his RS Soph. year, but that is being overshadowed by last year and now this year.

[zorak34]

By third quarter I was screaming put Blake Field in.

[Mitch4bama]

Cox looked like Brodie in the 06 IB. Everytime somebody got close, he just tucked the ball and took the hit. It looked to me like he panics and dosent know what to do when he is pressured.

[aufan]

By third quarter I was screaming put Blake Field in.

You know its bad when your saying that!!!!:unsure:

[TigerJunkie420]

Hard to believe that Brandon Cox is the oldest player on the Auburn roster...

[TigerJunkie420]

I do know that on the go-ahead drive Cox went to 3 step drops and quick throws.

Why doesn't Borges and Cox just focus on that with pass plays? :dry:

[GeauxTo]

pretty sure he already is a sucessful sec qb

Yep... we can see that.
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[TigerJunkie420]

Yep... we can see that.
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Unfortunately it doesn't mean shit without a running game.