Best case/Worst case scenario: ARKANSAS

[Gator2753]

List your best possible W-L record for the hawgs and worst possible W-L record.
In other words give your "homer" picks then your "doom & gloom" picks.
Here are mine:
Best case scenario:

09/01 Troy - W
09/15 at Alabama - W
09/22 Kentucky - W
09/29 N Texas - W
10/06 UT-Chatt - W
10/13 Auburn - L
10/20 at Ole Miss - W
10/27 Fla Int'l - W
11/03 S Carolina - W
11/10 at Tennessee - L
11/17 Miss St 2:00 - W
11/24 at LSU - L
9-3 with an added bowl victory. D-Mac breaks numerous rushing records.

Worst case scenario:

09/01 Troy - W
09/15 at Alabama - L
09/22 Kentucky - W
09/29 N Texas - W
10/06 UT-Chatt - W
10/13 Auburn - L
10/20 at Ole Miss - W
10/27 Fla Int'l - W
11/03 S Carolina - L
11/10 at Tennessee - L
11/17 Miss St 2:00 - W
11/24 at LSU - L
7-5 with a bowl loss added. The hawgs can't get consistent QB play.

[The Ramp]

you're about to get blasted

[woo_pig_sooie]

Best case is 11-1. Best case would be Casey Dick playing a lot better which would probably mean an almost unstoppable offense. I don't see Auburn or Tennessee beating us if that happens.

[Hawginitall]

Best case 14-0, national champs. D-Mac wins the heisman, Casey Dick consensus All-SEC QB.(Best I could think of, anyway.)

Worst case 0-12. D-Mac finishes the year with less career yards than when the season started, Casey Dick becomes the first QB in CFB history to throw 300 passes in a season without a completion.

The truth is probably somewhere in between.

Realistically, for Arkansas fans anything less than a 10 win season will be a disappointment.

[the Prodigy]

List your best possible W-L record for the hawgs and worst possible W-L record.
In other words give your "homer" picks then your "doom & gloom" picks.
Here are mine:
Best case scenario:

09/01 Troy - W
09/15 at Alabama - W
09/22 Kentucky - W
09/29 N Texas - W
10/06 UT-Chatt - W
10/13 Auburn - L
10/20 at Ole Miss - W
10/27 Fla Int'l - W
11/03 S Carolina - W
11/10 at Tennessee - L
11/17 Miss St 2:00 - W
11/24 at LSU - L
9-3 with an added bowl victory. D-Mac breaks numerous rushing records.

Worst case scenario:

09/01 Troy - W
09/15 at Alabama - L
09/22 Kentucky - W
09/29 N Texas - W
10/06 UT-Chatt - W
10/13 Auburn - L
10/20 at Ole Miss - W
10/27 Fla Int'l - W
11/03 S Carolina - L
11/10 at Tennessee - L
11/17 Miss St 2:00 - W
11/24 at LSU - L
7-5 with a bowl loss added. The hawgs can't get consistent QB play.

What makes you think we can't beat two teams that we absolutely demolished last year.... absolutely crushed. Auburn looked like a treadmil and Tennessee had Razorback sized holes all over the defense, secondary, front seven you name it. They were both dominated, what makes you think that they will have an answer for the guys who crushed them last year, by the way, all those guys are returning.

[The Ramp]

you're about to get blasted

i knew it:laugh:

[the Prodigy]

i knew it:laugh:

Thats what he gets for making stupid comments in threads like this.

I would say, Arkansas is capable of beating every team on their schedule. A lot of schools can't say that. Arkansas St. for one, can't say that they are capable of beating every team on their schedule, same for Tulane and some of those others.

LSU is the only one that they are going to have to have serious favor from the football gods to pull off.

[The Ramp]

where u like this 2 and 3 years ago?

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

where u like this 2 and 3 years ago?
Didn't you hear......Arkansas is ALWAYS underrated. Even before they play their season this year, we KNOW they are already underrated. :whistle:

[the Prodigy]

where u like this 2 and 3 years ago?

No, I expected Arkansas to do only slightly better than what they did. But Arkansas has lost very little on the offensive side of the ball, in fact, I would argue that they are a better Offensive team this year than they were last year. Defensively, they are almost always a no-name at the beginning of the season and one of the best performing defenses at the end. I expect them to follow that same trend this season.

[the Prodigy]

Didn't you hear......Arkansas is ALWAYS underrated. Even before they play their season this year, we KNOW they are already underrated. :whistle:

For what it is worth I think South Carolina is underrated this year as well.... but that is just between you me and Ramp.... (he knows all)

[Gator2753]

Thats what he gets for making stupid comments in threads like this.

I would say, Arkansas is capable of beating every team on their schedule. A lot of schools can't say that. Arkansas St. for one, can't say that they are capable of beating every team on their schedule, same for Tulane and some of those others.

LSU is the only one that they are going to have to have serious favor from the football gods to pull off.

Stupid comments? Umm...Ok . LSU was the best team in the west last year and you know it. Arkansas just benefited from LSU's slow start. Hence the reason why LSU beat Arkansas. Hence the reason Arkansas sputtered at the end of the season losing their last 3 in a row including the SECCG to UF and to Wisconsux.
In the same manner that UGA fans think their team will pick up off last years momentum, I think the same applies for Arkansas.
And with all the drama surrounding the Arkansas program last off season "aka as the hog turns" you think my comment was stupid?
9-3 is a charity my friend. Hope you stick around all year.:thumpsup:

[The Ramp]

Didn't you hear......Arkansas is ALWAYS underrated. Even before they play their season this year, we KNOW they are already underrated. :whistle:

i get the feeling the world's out to get them

[the Prodigy]

Stupid comments? Umm...Ok . LSU was the best team in the west last year and you know it. Arkansas just benefited from LSU's slow start. Hence the reason why LSU beat Arkansas. Hence the reason Arkansas sputtered at the end of the season losing their last 3 in a row including the SECCG to UF and to Wisconsux.
In the same manner that UGA fans think their team will pick up off last years momentum, I think the same applies for Arkansas.
And with all the drama surrounding the Arkansas program last off season "aka as the hog turns" you think my comment was stupid?
9-3 is a charity my friend. Hope you stick around all year.:thumpsup:

Dodging the criticism man, I have no problem with you picking LSU over Arkansas. But you said a best case scenario, and losing to two teams that had their butts handed to them last year by the same two guys who are returning in the backfield this year is not a "best case scenario".

Like I said, this was a stupid prediction. You have no basis for picking Auburn and Tennessee over Arkansas, at least none that you have given. And I have TONS of reasons to say that Arkansas has both of those teams on the ropes right now. Anything can happen. But you have to go with what you know. And everyone knows, there isn't a team on Arkansas schedule that could stop Darren McFadden last year. Who is going to stop him this year when he is a year older, wiser and more mature?

[the Prodigy]

i get the feeling the world's out to get them

It is just because Arkansas fans (old school) are used to being in the upper end of the conference, and since they have joined the SEC they have struggled to gain respect, that is all.

[The Ramp]

It is just because Arkansas fans (old school) are used to being in the upper end of the conference, and since they have joined the SEC they have struggled to gain respect, that is all.

and you have trouble with reality:laugh:

[the Prodigy]

and you have trouble with reality:laugh:

They have trouble with reality.... I think Arkansas can break through the barrier, but I don't think they have yet. That doesn't mean I think they will tank this year. But it is premature to call them upper eschelon in the SEC. Because upper eschelon in the SEC means national power. That is how it goes.

[Gator2753]

They have trouble with reality.... I think Arkansas can break through the barrier, but I don't think they have yet. That doesn't mean I think they will tank this year. But it is premature to call them upper eschelon in the SEC. Because upper eschelon in the SEC means national power. That is how it goes.

FYI I have never gained the reputation of being a flamer at this site. Not everyone will have the same opinion as you. If thats what you want then go back to hogville.net
This is SEC talk

[the Prodigy]

FYI I have never gained the reputation of being a flamer at this site. Not everyone will have the same opinion as you. If thats what you want then go back to hogville.net
This is SEC talk

Thank you for reading my sig line. Oh Wait, you didn't. By the way, I did make it known that I had expected more, and if it wasn't a flame attempt then it was just as I had stated previously, a stupid pick. Arkansas is capable of beating both of those teams, therefore, a best case scenario would be W by both of those teams on the schedule.

[Sabanocchio]

Thank you for reading my sig line. Oh Wait, you didn't. By the way, I did make it known that I had expected more, and if it wasn't a flame attempt then it was just as I had stated previously, a stupid pick. Arkansas is capable of beating both of those teams, therefore, a best case scenario would be W by both of those teams on the schedule.

Isn't it understood that his best case scenario is really, what he thinks is most likely to happen? IMO, you would be lucky to only lose 3 games in the regular season with all that you've lost on the O-line and at QB. And if you neg-rep me, you will regret it. I'll neg rep you til the moo-moos come back to the Barn. (no offense meant to Auburn.)

[Gator2753]

Isn't it understood that his best case scenario is really, what he thinks is most likely to happen? IMO, you would be lucky to only lose 3 games in the regular season with all that you've lost on the O-line and at QB. And if you neg-rep me, you will regret it. I'll neg rep you til the moo-moos come back to the Barn. (no offense meant to Auburn.)

Uh oh you better watch it. Anything less than an Arkansas national championship is a flame in this thread. :wacko:

[Sabanocchio]

Uh oh you better watch it. Anything less than an Arkansas national championship is a flame in this thread. :wacko:

I dare him to neg-rep me. I could use a new hobby.

[crimsonnation713]

I DOUBLE DOG DARE YA !!!!!! That'll hurt.

[The Ramp]

this is a funny thread...i'd + rep all of you if i cared that much...LOL

[the Prodigy]

Isn't it understood that his best case scenario is really, what he thinks is most likely to happen? IMO, you would be lucky to only lose 3 games in the regular season with all that you've lost on the O-line and at QB. And if you neg-rep me, you will regret it. I'll neg rep you til the moo-moos come back to the Barn. (no offense meant to Auburn.)

I'm guessing you thought you had the Arkansas game locked down last season right? I don't really get the big deal with this rep thing....


I'm not accusing anyone else of flaming, his posts after his original weren't really flaming. He said best case scenario.... to me that means beating all the teams you are capable of beating. I'm realistic, and realistically, I can certainly see Arkansas losing 3. But a best case scenario is 11-1 or 12-0 for Arkansas. Sorry Tennessee, sorry Auburn. People in Arkansas, and that means pretty much everyone, believes that Arkansas has one-up on both of those teams. Not so much Tennessee as Auburn. Honestly, I'm more worries about Alabama than I am about Tennessee or Auburn.

Sorry to Gatorboy.... I call 'em like I see 'em, and that was a stupid post. By picking a loss in a best case scenario you are essentially saying, "there is no way you are beating this team." If that is not what you meant, you should have said that in your original post.

[the Prodigy]

Uh oh you better watch it. Anything less than an Arkansas national championship is a flame in this thread. :wacko:


Your grasp of cynicism astounds me...:glare:

[timNem]

What Gator posted is his opinion, its not meant to be like yours or mine. If we all shared the same opinion here it would be a boring site dontcha think? You say you are realistic but nothing is written in stone and any outcome is possible, so I would say you calling him stupid...is stupid.

I'm guessing you thought you had the Arkansas game locked down last season right? I don't really get the big deal with this rep thing....


I'm not accusing anyone else of flaming, his posts after his original weren't really flaming. He said best case scenario.... to me that means beating all the teams you are capable of beating. I'm realistic, and realistically, I can certainly see Arkansas losing 3. But a best case scenario is 11-1 or 12-0 for Arkansas. Sorry Tennessee, sorry Auburn. People in Arkansas, and that means pretty much everyone, believes that Arkansas has one-up on both of those teams. Not so much Tennessee as Auburn. Honestly, I'm more worries about Alabama than I am about Tennessee or Auburn.

Sorry to Gatorboy.... I call 'em like I see 'em, and that was a stupid post. By picking a loss in a best case scenario you are essentially saying, "there is no way you are beating this team." If that is not what you meant, you should have said that in your original post.

[Sabanocchio]

I'm guessing you thought you had the Arkansas game locked down last season right? I don't really get the big deal with this rep thing....

Yeah, I thought our freshman QB starting his first game in the SEC against one of the better teams at the time was going to clean your clock and our paper-thin D-line was going to have the ability to stop the nations best running attack.:wacko:

I'm not accusing anyone else of flaming, his posts after his original weren't really flaming. He said best case scenario.... to me that means beating all the teams you are capable of beating. I'm realistic, and realistically, I can certainly see Arkansas losing 3. But a best case scenario is 11-1 or 12-0 for Arkansas. Sorry Tennessee, sorry Auburn. People in Arkansas, and that means pretty much everyone, believes that Arkansas has one-up on both of those teams. Not so much Tennessee as Auburn. Honestly, I'm more worries about Alabama than I am about Tennessee or Auburn. Good. I doubt you'll feel the same when it comes time for Arky to play UT this year, but I don't mind being underestimated.


Sorry to Gatorboy.... I call 'em like I see 'em, and that was a stupid post. By picking a loss in a best case scenario you are essentially saying, "there is no way you are beating this team." If that is not what you meant, you should have said that in your original post.
That's not what he said at all. I didn't see any other people throwing fits because he didn't pick their team to go undefeated. See the Florida Best/worse cast thread.

[The Ramp]

Uh oh you better watch it. Anything less than an Arkansas national championship is a flame in this thread. :wacko:

i think that's a dead-on assessment

[Hawginitall]

I've gotten some pretty good chuckles out of this thread.

BTW, if you think the fans are upset about the lack of respect, wait 'til you see the chip on the team's shoulder. :ohmy:

[The Ramp]

I've gotten some pretty good chuckles out of this thread.

BTW, if you think the fans are upset about the lack of respect, wait 'til you see the chip on the team's shoulder. :ohmy:

i hate the whole "my team doesn't get respect" angle coaches try to motivate players. it's been played out.

[the Prodigy]

Yeah, I thought our freshman QB starting his first game in the SEC against one of the better teams at the time was going to clean your clock and our paper-thin D-line was going to have the ability to stop the nations best running attack.:wacko:
Good. I doubt you'll feel the same when it comes time for Arky to play UT this year, but I don't mind being underestimated.


That's not what he said at all. I didn't see any other people throwing fits because he didn't pick their team to go undefeated. See the Florida Best/worse cast thread.

I don't want to underestimate Tennessee at all, I think they will be favored to win that game. Depending on how their Defensive front does throughout the season will change my opinion one way or the other, but right now, Tennessee has done nothing to improve upon the reasons why they lost to Arkansas last time, Ainge will probably be healthy and that will help. He is better than Crompton, but he isn't 16 points better than Crompton.

[Gator2753]

^^Stupid post^^
Neg rep him sabanocchio:laugh: J/K

[the Prodigy]

What Gator posted is his opinion, its not meant to be like yours or mine. If we all shared the same opinion here it would be a boring site dontcha think? You say you are realistic but nothing is written in stone and any outcome is possible, so I would say you calling him stupid...is stupid.


I didn't call him stupid, I said his post was stupid. There is a difference. Up until now, he has given me no reason to think he isn't an educated fan of the game. I think he is going too much on his perception of how good he thinks Arkansas is, as opposed to how good they actually are. Same goes with a lot of people and Kentucky....

[the Prodigy]

That's not what he said at all. I didn't see any other people throwing fits because he didn't pick their team to go undefeated. See the Florida Best/worse cast thread.

Already looked at that thread, and I don't agree with it either. I'm starting to think that he doesn't know what the phrase "best case scenario" means. Like I said before, "best case scenario" is beating every team on your schedule you have the capability to beat. Vanderbilt, doesn't have the capability to go undefeated... Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee all do. That is what makes this ridiculous.

I had no problem with him picking LSU over Arkansas, that is valid and has basis. The other two, are horrible, nasty, flammatory picks. Because they both got absolutely embarrassed last time they played Arkansas, and have made few if any moves that would put the next game in their favor from a prediction standpoint. Anything can happen....

[Sabanocchio]

Already looked at that thread, and I don't agree with it either. I'm starting to think that he doesn't know what the phrase "best case scenario" means. Like I said before, "best case scenario" is beating every team on your schedule you have the capability to beat. Vanderbilt, doesn't have the capability to go undefeated... Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee all do. That is what makes this ridiculous.

I had no problem with him picking LSU over Arkansas, that is valid and has basis. The other two, are horrible, nasty, flammatory picks. Because they both got absolutely embarrassed last time they played Arkansas, and have made few if any moves that would put the next game in their favor from a prediction standpoint. Anything can happen.... Just because you beat them both last year, does not make it an inflammatory pick. That's ludicrous. Georgia lost fairly handily to KY and Vandy last year, so by your logic we should all pick them to lose again? Bring something better to the table, Powerade, you're embarrassing your peers.

[timNem]

I didn't call him stupid, I said his post was stupid. There is a difference. Up until now, he has given me no reason to think he isn't an educated fan of the game. I think he is going too much on his perception of how good he thinks Arkansas is, as opposed to how good they actually are. Same goes with a lot of people and Kentucky....Exactly..thats what this is all about..opinions, nobody includong you knows exactly how good any team is..we'll see at the end of the season.

[the Prodigy]

Just because you beat them both last year, does not make it an inflammatory pick. That's ludicrous. Georgia lost fairly handily to KY and Vandy last year, so by your logic we should all pick them to lose again? Bring something better to the table, Powerade, you're embarrassing your peers.

I'd say Georgia has made quite a few moves to improve upon last years overall performance. Why aren't you picking up on this important points? Tennessee and Auburn, while they have got people to step into those positions, much the same way Arkansas needs people to step into the OL positions, they lost a great deal of their talent in the skill positions. Arkansas hasn't lost anything in the skill positions. (don't start with the MM BS.)

I've already said that Arkansas would be picked to lose in both of those games by Vegas, but if they won, it would not be considered an upset, because everyone knows what Arkansas is going to do, and they can't stop it. You can't ask for a more confident pick in my opinion. Arkansas has shown, with the skill players they've got, they can beat both of those teams into a bloody pulp, do I need to show you a picture of the freaking scoreboard? Do I need to show you a picture of the best player in the nation? Have you forgotten what he looks like or just blocked it out? I wouldn't blame you, I've blocked out USC entirely.... I had to to keep my sanity.

[the Prodigy]

Exactly..thats what this is all about..opinions, nobody includong you knows exactly how good any team is..we'll see at the end of the season.


I agree with you if he were just making picks. I have no problem with that. But thats not what he was doing. He was saying that that was the best anyone could hope for. And I think that is totally out of line. Arkansas can beat Tennessee and Auburn. He said that there is no way they are winning either. Bad move on his part to say there is 0% chance. If that is not what he was saying then he needs to clarify, but I think that is exactly what he was saying and I disagree vehemently.

[Sabanocchio]

I'd say Georgia has made quite a few moves to improve upon last years overall performance. Why aren't you picking up on this important points? Tennessee and Auburn, while they have got people to step into those positions, much the same way Arkansas needs people to step into the OL positions, they lost a great deal of their talent in the skill positions. Arkansas hasn't lost anything in the skill positions. (don't start with the MM BS.) This is ridiculous. Man, I'm sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever. You have absolutely NO IDEA what a team is going to look like until they take the field, everything else is COMPLETELY subjective. Whether or not Georgia puts a better product on the field this year has no relevance whatsoever to what we are discussing.
What skill positions has UT and Auburn lost players at? Even if you can justiify this statement, it has no bearing on the subject at hand which is one poster's opinion of what a "best case scenario" is for your team.

I've already said that Arkansas would be picked to lose in both of those games by Vegas, but if they won, it would not be considered an upset, because everyone knows what Arkansas is going to do, and they can't stop it. Every team in the SEC has had footage of how to stop the wildcat package. You were stopped last year and by mid-season they will have a lot more of it. If you think you are going to beat teams with just your running game a lone, you're in for a real surprise. Plus, you've lost so much on the offensive line, that you have no idea whether or not teams are going to blow plays up in the backfield all game. Then not only do you not have a running game, you have a subpar quarterback that can't get the ball to your All-SEC Wide Receiver, and no defense to speak of. I think 2753's post was more optimistic than reality shows right now.
You can't ask for a more confident pick in my opinion. Arkansas has shown, with the skill players they've got, they can beat both of those teams into a bloody pulp, do I need to show you a picture of the freaking scoreboard? Do I need to show you a picture of the best player in the nation? Have you forgotten what he looks like or just blocked it out? I wouldn't blame you, I've blocked out USC entirely.... I had to to keep my sanity.They have shown what they could do last year, this year is a completely different year, maybe you haven't been watching football long enough to realize that. And no, I know what D-mac looks like, so does every other defensive coordinator in the SEC now.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I agree with you if he were just making picks. I have no problem with that. But thats not what he was doing. He was saying that that was the best anyone could hope for. And I think that is totally out of line. Arkansas can beat Tennessee and Auburn. He said that there is no way they are winning either. Bad move on his part to say there is 0% chance. If that is not what he was saying then he needs to clarify, but I think that is exactly what he was saying and I disagree vehemently.
He was not saying that was the best ANYONE could hope for, but the best HE expects Arkansas to do. According to you, it was a bad move on his part to say there is no chance of Arkansas beating Auburn and Tennessee (i.e., 0% chance). That is not what he was saying, since there is always a probability associated with a team beating another team, albeit small in some cases. If you used that as a guideline, he would have had to state that, for every team, the best that team could do is 12-0 and the worst they could do is 0-12. After all, there is always a small probability associated with the possibility of Vanderbilt beating Florida, Georgia, etc.

You have to make a judgment call on how well YOU believe a team can do under the best circumstances, and what YOU believe a team can do under the worst circumstances. He provided his opinion. You need to get thicker skin as far as your team is concerned, for not everyone will see eye-to-eye with you on how good (or bad) your team may be this year.

In his original post, he posted his W-L records, and asked for members to post their best case and worst case W-L records. If you disagreed with him, rather than getting your panties in a wad, you should have posted your prediction on the best case and worst case W-L record for Arkansas (as he asked in the initial post that started this thread).

[The Ramp]

How dare anyone predict a loss for Ark? get a rope....

[scfan5338]

For what it is worth I think South Carolina is underrated this year as well.... but that is just between you me and Ramp.... (he knows all)

im surprised to hear tht from a arky fan, but as a usc fan I dont think we are underrated. We should be where we are because we have a really tough schedule. If we had last year's schedule, then I could see us maybe being talked about as a sec east title contendor.

[Gator2753]

Auburn Best case12-0 worst case11-1
Alabama Best case 12-0 worst case 11-1
Arkansas Best case 12-0 worst case 12-0
LSU Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Ole Miss Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
MSU Best case 12-0 Worst case 111

Georgia Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Tennessee Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Florida Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Carolina Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Kentucky Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Vanderbilt Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1

Arkansas wins the SECCG as every team from the east was too afraid to show up to face Arkansas. Arkansas goes on to defeat USC in the BCS NCG just like they did last season in Fayetteville.
There are you happy now Mr. Propel fitness water?

[Gator2753]

Already looked at that thread, and I don't agree with it either. I'm starting to think that he doesn't know what the phrase "best case scenario" means. Like I said before, "best case scenario" is beating every team on your schedule you have the capability to beat. Vanderbilt, doesn't have the capability to go undefeated... Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee all do. That is what makes this ridiculous.

I had no problem with him picking LSU over Arkansas, that is valid and has basis. The other two, are horrible, nasty, flammatory picks. Because they both got absolutely embarrassed last time they played Arkansas, and have made few if any moves that would put the next game in their favor from a prediction standpoint. Anything can happen....

So your logic is "We beat them last year so we will beat them again this year"?:laugh:
Well If thats the case then look out LSU, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, & FSU...Florida beat yall last year & we are going to do it again this year! It sucks that we have to lose to Auburn again though:sad:

[Gator2753]

I love that Vanderbilt is the only team with a beast case.

Thanks... ;)

[Sabanocchio]

So your logic is "We beat them last year so we will beat them again this year"?:laugh:
Well If thats the case then look out LSU, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, & FSU...Florida beat yall last year & we are going to do it again this year! It sucks that we have to lose to Auburn again though:sad:

It shouldn't matter! At least you know you're going to beat OSU in the NCG.

[The Ramp]

i guess i won't even bother going to the auburn and florida games. anyone want my tickets?

i should go ahead and get my sugar bowl tickets now.

[Gator2753]

i guess i won't even bother going to the auburn and florida games. anyone want my tickets?

i should go ahead and get my sugar bowl tickets now.

Well If you can keep this little secret between me, you, nocchio, and powerade then you could make a killing off of them on ebay:laugh:

[The Ramp]

Well If you can keep this little secret between me, you, nocchio, and powerade then you could make a killing off of them on ebay:laugh:

if we don't, can i sue powerade?

[TigersFanTaylor]

My ACTUAL Predictions:

09/01 Troy - W
09/15 at Alabama - L
09/22 Kentucky - W
09/29 N Texas - W
10/06 UT-Chatt - W
10/13 Auburn - L
10/20 at Ole Miss - W
10/27 Fla Int'l - W
11/03 S Carolina - L
11/10 at Tennessee - L
11/17 Miss St 2:00 - W
11/24 at LSU - L

Finish 7-5. They lost some defense from last season, but I think their strong running game will get them to a bowl game, but not too much further.

[Gator2753]

My ACTUAL Predictions:

09/01 Troy - W
09/15 at Alabama - L
09/22 Kentucky - W
09/29 N Texas - W
10/06 UT-Chatt - W
10/13 Auburn - L
10/20 at Ole Miss - W
10/27 Fla Int'l - W
11/03 S Carolina - L
11/10 at Tennessee - L
11/17 Miss St 2:00 - W
11/24 at LSU - L

Finish 7-5. They lost some defense from last season, but I think their strong running game will get them to a bowl game, but not too much further.

In the words of the ramp...Uhh ohhh now you've done it! :laugh:
I'm going to go ahead and give you +rep for this because RedGatorade is about to neg rep you. How dare you pick the hogs to lose 5 games thats just flaming!
Don't worry his neg rep will only take one point away from you. Mine will give you at least 7 or 8:thumpsup:

[HOG02]

My ACTUAL Predictions:

09/01 Troy - W
09/15 at Alabama - L
09/22 Kentucky - W
09/29 N Texas - W
10/06 UT-Chatt - W
10/13 Auburn - L
10/20 at Ole Miss - W
10/27 Fla Int'l - W
11/03 S Carolina - L
11/10 at Tennessee - L
11/17 Miss St 2:00 - W
11/24 at LSU - L

Finish 7-5. They lost some defense from last season, but I think their strong running game will get them to a bowl game, but not too much further.


I agree with a lot of this. We lost a lot of our defense. I hope we can find some new playmakers. I agree with you schedule, but I think we go 8-4 with a win against either Auburn or Alabama. I just don't see us losing both.

[The Ramp]

I agree with a lot of this. We lost a lot of our defense. I hope we can find some new playmakers. I agree with you schedule, but I think we go 8-4 with a win against either Auburn or Alabama. I just don't see us losing both.

a reasonable Hog fan?!?!??!!?:ohmy:

kudos to you:thumpsup:

[the Prodigy]

You guys are just picking and choosing stuff.... I have said many times that Arkansas could very well be 7-5 or 8-4. I've said many times before, "that is why we play the games." I've said that Arkansas has the abilitiy and the players to go 11-1 or 12-0. That is all true.

There is a difference between opinion and stating that a team has absolutely no shot at winning a game. I took Gator(fill in the blank)'s post as the latter. My Bad. I guess everything anyone ever states is subjective and not subject to scrutiny by others. Sorry if I stepped on your throat, I didn't know you were laying there.

While I don't think that last years games should be used as a determining factor for predicting the outcome of the upcoming game this year. To say that such said outcome has NO affect whatsoever, or that returning players' past performances have no affect on th future outcome is absurd, and ignorant....

Because I already know ramp is going to make a snide one-liner comment that makes no sense or has any basis in the grown-up world.... I will save him the trouble and do it myself...

Ramp: Huh...yeah, I guess you should go to your homer frat red- kool aid. They are missing you at the ice-cream social.

[TigersFanTaylor]

You guys are just picking and choosing stuff.... I have said many times that Arkansas could very well be 7-5 or 8-4. I've said many times before, "that is why we play the games." I've said that Arkansas has the abilitiy and the players to go 11-1 or 12-0. That is all true.


The Hogs are way too unbalaned to go win 11+ games. They lost a lot of defense in Jamaal Anderson and Chris Houston. They also lost their best QB recruit in a long time to USCw in Mustain. The only weapons they have are McFadden and Jones, and it's not hard for the opposing team to guess who will be getting the ball, especially with Monk, their only other offensive weapon hurt. And even with McFadden and Jones running the ball, they still need to worry about how good their line will be with 3 new starters. I understand your a fan and like Arkansas, but please, think before you type.

[Sabanocchio]

While I don't think that last years games should be used as a determining factor for predicting the outcome of the upcoming game this year. You don't? That was the entire point you were trying to make earlier.People in Arkansas, and that means pretty much everyone, believes that Arkansas has one-up on both of those teams. Arkansas has shown, with the skill players they've got, they can beat both of those teams into a bloody pulpThe other two, are horrible, nasty, flammatory picks. Because they both got absolutely embarrassed last time they played Arkansas, and have made few if any moves that would put the next game in their favor from a prediction standpoint.Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what you said.


To say that such said outcome has NO affect whatsoever, or that returning players' past performances have no affect on th future outcome is absurd, and ignorant....
No one ever said that anywhere in this thread.

[The Ramp]

You guys are just picking and choosing stuff.... I have said many times that Arkansas could very well be 7-5 or 8-4. I've said many times before, "that is why we play the games." I've said that Arkansas has the abilitiy and the players to go 11-1 or 12-0. That is all true.

There is a difference between opinion and stating that a team has absolutely no shot at winning a game. I took Gator(fill in the blank)'s post as the latter. My Bad. I guess everything anyone ever states is subjective and not subject to scrutiny by others. Sorry if I stepped on your throat, I didn't know you were laying there.

While I don't think that last years games should be used as a determining factor for predicting the outcome of the upcoming game this year. To say that such said outcome has NO affect whatsoever, or that returning players' past performances have no affect on th future outcome is absurd, and ignorant....

Because I already know ramp is going to make a snide one-liner comment that makes no sense or has any basis in the grown-up world.... I will save him the trouble and do it myself...

Ramp: Huh...yeah, I guess you should go to your homer frat red- kool aid. They are missing you at the ice-cream social.


it seems i'm not the only one who notices a trend

[the Prodigy]

You don't? That was the entire point you were trying to make earlier. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what you said.

No one ever said that anywhere in this thread.


Take out the period and substitute a comma, I was typing too fast, the statement will make much more sense after that.


The whole premise of the post that started this thread was BEST/WORST case scenarios.... think about that phrase long and hard. Think about what is implied in those statements and then get back to me.

[Sabanocchio]

I'm back. And I still don't know what you're talking about.

[the Prodigy]

The Hogs are way too unbalaned to go win 11+ games. They lost a lot of defense in Jamaal Anderson and Chris Houston. They also lost their best QB recruit in a long time to USCw in Mustain. The only weapons they have are McFadden and Jones, and it's not hard for the opposing team to guess who will be getting the ball, especially with Monk, their only other offensive weapon hurt. And even with McFadden and Jones running the ball, they still need to worry about how good their line will be with 3 new starters. I understand your a fan and like Arkansas, but please, think before you type.

I think that just like last year, Arkansas will be able to run the ball early and win games, without passing too much. You are correct, based on last years performance Arkansas is too unbalanced to win 11+ games. Based on what I've seen at the practices open to the public and numerous scrimmages, the passing game is not going to be anemic for very long. Dick is a big Question Mark. And believe it or not, Arkansas has to people to replace Anderson and Houston. Most of the secondary that would have started were out with injuries the majority of the year, they are back and healthy this season.

The offensive line was good at the beginning of "camp" but now, they are just absolutely fantastic. Their footwork is nice, they don't allow too many sacks, and they seem to be working as a cohesive unit, much like the OL that only allowed 2 sacks all of last season.

In games where Arkansas scored more than 24 points they were 8-1. The one loss coming to LSU. The typical number in the SEC coaches are shooting for is 28 in order to come away with a W. That means that the defense was pretty good, better than most thought last year. With the veteran leadership on Offense and the returning (from injury) talent on defense, I expect the defense to keep the opponent from scoring pretty much the same way they did last season, and the offense to get closer to the 28 margin this season. But we will have to wait and see. Just some general comments....

[the Prodigy]

"While I don't think that last years games should be used as a determining factor for predicting the outcome of the upcoming game this year, to say that such said outcome has NO affect whatsoever, or that returning players' past performances have no affect on th future outcome is absurd, and ignorant...."

That is what I was trying to say. I never said that the biggest factor in deciding which team should win was last year's game, but to say that it has no affect on the game is absurd, and I gave the reasons why. I don't see why anyone would disagree.

[redback65]

best case We're so dam good they put us in the superbowland we win by 50 over Colts. Worst case ,we lose to Croom's 3rd string scrubs by 45-0 at home.. before the L.S.U. Game... ouch!

[redback65]

Auburn Best case12-0 worst case11-1
Alabama Best case 12-0 worst case 11-1
Arkansas Best case 12-0 worst case 12-0
LSU Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Ole Miss Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
MSU Best case 12-0 Worst case 111

Georgia Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Tennessee Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Florida Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Carolina Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Kentucky Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1
Vanderbilt Best case 12-0 Worst case 11-1

Arkansas wins the SECCG as every team from the east was too afraid to show up to face Arkansas. Arkansas goes on to defeat USC in the BCS NCG just like they did last season in Fayetteville.
There are you happy now Mr. Propel fitness water? No,:dance: but you sure as heck made me happy though!:laugh:

[AFWarrior83]

Tennesse still cannot stop a solid running game (ex. Cal) and Auburn cannot score enough to keep up with the Hogs. I'm saying best case we go undefeated and win the NC, worse case we lose 4 or more games. I've been saying 9 to 10 wins all pre-season, and after watching some of the other SEC teams games I think we might actually win more than that...

[TigersFanTaylor]

Tennesse still cannot stop a solid running game (ex. Cal) and Auburn cannot score enough to keep up with the Hogs. I'm saying best case we go undefeated and win the NC, worse case we lose 4 or more games. I've been saying 9 to 10 wins all pre-season, and after watching some of the other SEC teams games I think we might actually win more than that...

Don't call Tennessee and Auburn automatic wins yet. You beat Troy, good job. Will the Backs be able to stop Erik Ainge? Also, the Backs don't have as balanced of an offense as the Bears did. The Bears mixed it up a lot, as they were capable of doing so, and it kept the Vols guesssing. The Backs won't be able to do that, and the Vols will focus more on stopping the run.

[AFWarrior83]

Don't call Tennessee and Auburn automatic wins yet. You beat Troy, good job. Will the Backs be able to stop Erik Ainge? Also, the Backs don't have as balanced of an offense as the Bears did. The Bears mixed it up a lot, as they were capable of doing so, and it kept the Vols guesssing. The Backs won't be able to do that, and the Vols will focus more on stopping the run.


This is true, but last year we beat you guys 28-14(?) running the ball. I just don't think you'll be able to stop the run. We won't be able to shut down Ainge, but we can limit him. I think the Vols are a good team, but they are a little overrated imo. Top 25 maybe, not top 15.

Auburn just doesn't seem to have any weapons on offense.

[TigersFanTaylor]

This is true, but last year we beat you guys 28-14(?) running the ball. I just don't think you'll be able to stop the run. We won't be able to shut down Ainge, but we can limit him. I think the Vols are a good team, but they are a little overrated imo. Top 25 maybe, not top 15.

Auburn just doesn't seem to have any weapons on offense.

Yeah, you beat us 28-14 with no Erik Ainge. That game is too far ahead of us, so I'm not going to talk much on it. We are definatly a top 15 team in my book, and we will prove further into the season. We lost to a great Cal team, man, we suck :wacko: . I can't wait until SEC games start, so we can prove to the rest of the conference how good we really are.

[AFWarrior83]

Yeah, you beat us 28-14 with no Erik Ainge. That game is too far ahead of us, so I'm not going to talk much on it. We are definatly a top 15 team in my book, and we will prove further into the season. We lost to a great Cal team, man, we suck :wacko: . I can't wait until SEC games start, so we can prove to the rest of the conference how good we really are.


Agreed, good luck to the Vols. (except when the Hogs arrive to Neyland of course :glare: )

[crimsonnation713]

They have trouble with reality.... I think Arkansas can break through the barrier, but I don't think they have yet. That doesn't mean I think they will tank this year. But it is premature to call them upper eschelon in the SEC. Because upper eschelon in the SEC means national power. That is how it goes.

I wonder if BP has a long lost brother?

[sheluvsbama]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[The Ramp]

this should be brought up for some humble pie buffet

*waits for matt flynn threads*