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Grady
07-18-2007, 01:13 AM
Nick Saban is right :

A decade is certainly a proper period to compare two now so-called BCS Conferences :

Three (3) of the Top 10 football programs over the last entire decade are SEC programs and only two (2) are Big Ten (11) as anyone might have guessed without studying the facts.

Directly behind those programs over the last decade are yet two (2) more SEC programs in the Top 25 to again only one (1) more Big Ten (11) program :

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1997&end=2006&rpct=1&min=1&ss=on&se=on&c1a=on&pt=on&by=Wins (http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1997&end=2006&rpct=1&min=1&ss=on&se=on&c1a=on&pt=on&by=Wins)

Number 1 for the Big Ten is # 3 overall Ohio State at 97-28.
Number 1 for The SEC is # 4 overall Georgia at 96-30.

How it breaks down :

Tied for 2nd and 3rd Ohio State with 97 wins.
Tied for 4th through 6th are Georgia and Michigan with 96 wins.
Tied for 8th through 11th are both Tennessee and Florida with 94 wins.

That’s the Top 10 programs over the last decade.
3 SEC led by Georgia BuLLdawgs 96 wins.
2 Big Ten (11) led by Ohio State 97 wins.

Clearly, The SEC leads the way with three (3) Top 10 programs over the last entire decade compared to only two (2) Big Ten (11) programs.

In the Top 25 over the last entire decade :
SEC 5 : UGA (#4) vols (#8) Florida (#8) LSU ((#17-86 wins) Auburn (#18-84 wins)

So, of the Top 18 football winningest football programs over the last entire decade, five (5) are SEC football programs, as everyone including Nick Saban already knew without study.

Only Wisconsin (#13-89 wins) is in the Top 25 besides Ohio State (#3-97 wins) and Michigan (#4-96 wins) for the Big 10 by direct comparison thereto the 5 SEC programs in the Top 18.

Big Ten (11) has therefore 3 programs in the Top 25 programs in America over the last entire decade while The SEC has five (5) in the Top 18 over the last entire decade of winningest football programs.

Last time I looked 3 Big Ten compared to 5 SEC, is the Big Ten (11) has 60% of The SEC’s 5 with the Big 10’s three of The SEC’s five Top 25 football programs.

You can continue on, however, as Nick Saban’s statements as a former Head Coach of Michigan State before seeing The Light and joining the rest of us down here in the Sun Belt (Bible Belt), are deeper than just that five of The SEC are in the Top 18 football programs in America over the last entire decade compared directly thereto only forty percent less of three of the Big 10 in the Top 25.

5 of the Top 19 SEC over the last decade of winningest football programs.
3 of the Top 25 Big 10 over the last decade of winningest football programs.

(We don’t need to discuss that The Top Football Program in the Top Football Conference, Georgia, has not lost to the Big 10 in Fifty (50) Years.)

(Undefeated BuLLdawgs 7-0 over Big 10 since October 5, 1957 in Ann Arbor.)

(Nor do we have to discuss that only UGA has been ranked in every one of the Final AP Polls over this entire full complete decade to-date and counting, of all football programs period.)

All we have to say in The SEC to defend the statements of Les Miles and Nick Saban, is that there are one-third fewer Big 10 winningest football programs in the Top 10 over the last entire decade than there are SEC programs. And, there are forty percent fewer Big 10 winningest football programs in the Top 25 over the last entire decade than there are SEC programs.

That is a significant difference of the Top Football Winningest Programs over the Last Entire Decade that The SEC enjoys over the Big 10 today. Never mind the dominance of The SEC over The Big 10 head-to-head.

So, if Les Miles (Michigan Big 10 graduate and served a decade on Michigan’s football coaching staff) and Nick Saban (former head coach at Michigan State Big 10) both want to state that they now coach in The SEC because The SEC has more of the best football programs in America today, well by God, they are both correct.

The SEC leads the nation in BCS National Championships period.

In addition :

The SEC leads the nation in Ranked Teams every year in the Final AP Poll.

The SEC leads the nation in NFL football players and always has.

The SEC leads the nation in attendance every year for the last 26 consecutive years.

The SEC leads the nation in football recruiting rankings every single year too.

There is no comparison between the Big 10 and The SEC in football, unless of course both former Big 10 coaches, now in The SEC are both wrong that all these facts are self-evident.

Now, one area the North does have an advantage on one would think is that in the Megalopolis there are far more people (fewer in number who go to Big 10 games than SEC attendance) who should have therefore far more football recruits and therefore more in the NFL – only it ain’t so. And, as a direct result thereof, there are always more SEC football programs ranked in the Final AP Poll than the Big Ten (11). And, over the last entire decade, more SEC BCS National Championships than every other single Conference.

Unless of course, 40 percent fewer Top 10 winningest Big 10 football programs over the last entire decade than The SEC or 33 percent fewer Top 25 winningest Big 10 football programs can be argued somehow unknown by me to be somehow therefore better ?

I’ll await that answer ?

So, where does this leave the Industrial North better than The Rural South ?

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Bburton86
07-18-2007, 01:17 AM
Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

Grady
07-18-2007, 01:19 AM
The War of Northern Aggression, obviously, where the North raped our women, pillaged our countryside, burned our entire cities and every home and all the artifacts, and left us with nothing - is the Industrial North's only claim to fame - not football and Coach Les Miles and Coach Nick Saban are not wrong Dawg Sports.



Congratulations. Fine tradition to lean back on – is all I can say.



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Commander in Chief of the Union armies, Ulysses S. Grant’s terms of surrender to General Robert E. Lee, in this War of Northern Aggression, are on auction today here in HotLanta for half a million dollars.



So, as you sit there smug that yous guys are better – you ain’t. Not a thing.




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Dawg sports is once again, as they always are, wrong.

Grady
07-18-2007, 01:51 AM
8 of the Top 50 winningest football programs over the last decade, are SEC Football Programs.

6 of the Top 50 winningest football programs over the last decade, are Big Ten (11) football programs.

So, how does Dawg Sports make this quote, pray tell today ?



"not even the most devoted Southern partisan could claim that eight or nine S.E.C. teams fit that description"

"A more sensible view is taken by the Southeastern Conference football fans at And the Valley Shook, where an honest assessment of the numbers reveals that two of the only three big-name teams to have posted a winning percentage of better than .770 over the course of the last decade are Big Ten squads"

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Who is correct ?

Dawg Sports or me ?

Again.

There are twenty-five percent (25%) fewer Top 50 Winningest Football Programs in the Big Ten (11) than there are in The SEC.

Grady
07-18-2007, 02:22 AM
I-A Wins 1997-2006 (http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1997&end=2006&rpct=1&min=1&ss=on&se=on&c1a=on&pt=on&by=Wins)

Any way you slice it, Dawg Sports is once again wrong and me once again right that Dawg Sports is wrong again saying that Nick Saban and Les Miles, former Big 10 football coaches, now head coaches in The SEC, are wrong Dawg Sports states looking at the last decade as they state. And, as Dawg Sports invites us to have an "honest assessment of the numbers" over the "course of the last decade."

Been there.

Done that.

3 Top 10 SEC.
2 Top 10 Big Ten (11).

5 Top 25 SEC.
3 Top 25 Big Ten (11).

8 Top 50 Winningest Programs over course of decade now today SEC.
6 Top 50 Winningest programs over course of decade now today Big Ten (11).

Only 4 outside the Top 50 Winningest Programs over course of decade today SEC.
More, 5, outside Top 50 Winningest Programs over course of decade today Big Ten (11).

10 SEC through Number 78.
8 Big Ten (11) through Number 78.

8 through Number 78 winningest football programs over the "last entire decade" Dawgs Sports states are Big Ten (11) programs.

10 through Number 78 winningest football programs over the "last entire decade" Dawgs Sports states are SEC programs.

11 SEC through Number 87.
9 Big Ten (11) through Number 87.

Of the 25 worst football programs (25 most losingest) over the "last entire decade" Dawgs Sports states there are once again two (2) Big Ten (11) programs (Indiana and Illinois) to only one (1) SEC program intramural vandie.

2 of the worst 25 losingest football programs over decade now Big Ten (11).
1 of the worst 25 losingest football programs over decade now SEC.
Twice as many Big 10 worst 25 football programs over decade than SEC.

Where in the Hell has the Big 10 got an advantage over the decade you discuss that Nick Saban and Les Miles are wrong, Dawg Sports ?

I know there is an advantage here for the Big 10 that Dawg Sports can explain to me and the rest of the known world that SEC Head Coaches Nick Saban and Les Miles are incorrect in their statements on this topic ?

So, tell me where it is over the "course of the last decade" in your "honest assessment of the numbers" Dawg Sports ?

Go ahead ?

I'll wait...

gatorunvrsty
07-18-2007, 02:38 AM
I can't really follow any of that (and can't vote in the poll because I can't understand what it's saying), but we had this thread awhile back: http://www.sectalk.com/boards/sec-football-talk/15997-all-time-conference-rankings.html

We've also had this discussion numerous times, and if you go to that site in the thread, you can see how all the conferences have stacked up, and it gets broken down into decades and quarter-centuries, too.:thumpsup:

Grady
07-18-2007, 03:23 AM
I can't really follow any of that (and can't vote in the poll because I can't understand what it's saying), but we had this thread awhile back: http://www.sectalk.com/boards/sec-football-talk/15997-all-time-conference-rankings.html

We've also had this discussion numerous times, and if you go to that site in the thread, you can see how all the conferences have stacked up, and it gets broken down into decades and quarter-centuries, too.:thumpsup:


I have NO PROBLEM understanding your post is OFF-TOPIC, having read Nick Saban's and Les Miles' statements reported by Dawg Sports over "course of decade" as being incorrect in both of their assessments that The SEC has more of the better teams and in fact eight (8) of the Top 50 most winningest programs over the "course of a decade" and that instead you want to talk about some other thread NOT IN THE LEAST ABOUT THE LAST DAMN DECADE.

I broke it down exactly for the last decade, and if you want to show a thread that does through today, and that my numbers are incorrect - feel free dimwit.

By the way, over the course of the last decade, UGA is Number 4 in the nation and Number 1 of The SEC programs with 96 wins while Florida is back there in 8th through 11th place with the vols.

Grady
07-18-2007, 03:37 AM
By the way, your URL Link takes you to no link that covers "the course of the last decade" as described by Dawg Sports, whose URL Link to their story of Nick Saban's and Les Miles' quotes was provided to you above as the title of this thread.

Therefore, your URL Link is off-topic as you do not discuss there - nor, does your URL Link you provide there discuss "over the course of the last entire decade of football" as Dawg Sports describes in their blog TODAY.

Conference Decade Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/decade_conf_rankings.php?period=2000-2006)

That does NOT cover the last decade of football at all young man.

Keep up, as this thread is about Dawgs Sports statement of over the course of the last entire decade.

The analysis of which, only I provide – as Dawg Sports only states TODAY in their blog that an honest assessment of the numbers over the course of the last entire decade, indicates that Les Miles and Nick Saban, are incorrect that The SEC has more (far more) of the winningest football programs.

Uh, no sir, they are [NOT] incorrect in these quotes today.

Grady
07-18-2007, 04:11 AM
Crocodile gtrunvrsty : Your thread you are so proud of (us all having already discussed this), has exactly one (1) response in it. How is that a discussion of Coach Les Miles' and Coach Nick Saban's quotes discussed today at Dawg Sports blog as being incorrect, if you have an honest assessment of the numbers over the course of the last entire decade when they both and I provide the numbers for the last decade, which once again your thread (with one (1) response) does not ?

gatorunvrsty
07-18-2007, 04:14 AM
:blink: What? The only part of that I got was young man; and while I'm flattered, I don't think they use that terminology for someone rapidly approaching 40. And yes, the link does take the last entire decade of football into account if you research it thoroughly enough. As I pointed out, I'm sorry if I'm a little off-topic, but I can't tell what the topic is from the post. I actually thought I was agreeing with your assessment, but the poor grammar, run-on sentences, and the random meandering of the argument make it virtually impossible to translate.

gatorunvrsty
07-18-2007, 04:20 AM
Crocodile gtrunvrsty : Your thread you are so proud of (us all having already discussed this), has exactly one (1) response in it. How is that a discussion of Coach Les Miles' and Coach Nick Saban's quotes discussed today at Dawg Sports blog as being incorrect, if you have an honest assessment of the numbers over the course of the last entire decade when they both and I provide the numbers for the last decade, which once again your thread (with one (1) response) does not ?

I'm not claiming any pride in the link. I don't post here to boost my ego. I merely posted it becasue there's a link that further proves SEC superiority over the "big" 10. I really don't care what Miles and Saban have to say on the issue; because if they say that the 10 has been stronger than the SEC over the last decade , the link proves them wrong, all by itself.

hmsdawgs
07-18-2007, 07:38 AM
Grady is weird.

Bulldog Bry
07-18-2007, 08:25 AM
Graaaaaaaadyyyy!!!!!!!

Can You Come Out To Play??????

WayzUp
07-18-2007, 09:54 AM
Wow..........

True Grit
07-18-2007, 11:46 AM
Hmmm... SEC message board....I wonder which conference will get the most votes.

Williams-Brice
07-18-2007, 02:17 PM
What in the world just happened here? I felt like there was a carnivorous ear whig ravaging my brain when I was ready Grady's posts.

lacene
07-18-2007, 02:42 PM
I think if you read his posts backwards, it makes sense....

The Ramp
07-18-2007, 02:51 PM
I think if you read his posts backwards, it makes sense....

an eye of newt, blood of a virgin, and garlic cloves help in the translation

PuddingTime
07-18-2007, 02:58 PM
wtf.....dood lay off the cocaine and coffee.

And where did the Civil War come into any of this? lol Guess whoever wrote that blog Shermanized Grady's part of Atlanta today :D

KillerNut
07-19-2007, 09:27 AM
Saban and Miles both coached Big 10 teams. Saban at Michigan State during the late 90's and Miles as an assistant at Michigan I think.