SEC Champion

[True Grit]

To keep homerism out of this thread, you cannot pick your own team. If you think your team is most likely to win the SEC, then pick the next most likely team.

Florida.

[WarEagle73]

Now that is a tough one. The most likely canadates (since I can't make a homer pick) would be either LSU or Florida. Both are loaded and seem poised to win the SEC or maybe more. However, if there is one thing I've learned in watching the SEC is that anything can and will happen. So wile LSU or Florida both stand a more than even chance of making a fool out of me I'm going to say Tennessee.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

Geez, since this is a http://www.oldmansimpson.com/assets/screens/nohomers.gif thread, I'm going to go with Georgia.

[VolMike98]

If I can't vote for UT I will say LSU

[Rebel Chuck]

LSWHO is probably going to get there with one loss

[SavageOrangeJug]

Since I can't go homer....LSU

[Noah.Dreams]

The real question is which team will survive prosperity, LSU or Auburn.

Both of these tigers have a long history of self inflicted wounds. Never be afraid to hand a tiger a 45 'cause they have a propensity of shooting themselves in the foot.

If UGA is gonna make it pass the mighty Gators, then 2007 is it. While the Bulldogs defense matures enough to withstand the onslaught, expect a host of RBs to ground up the turf and Caleb King will be your SEC rookie of the year.

That leaves you the Volunteers of UTK. When these solders have a target on their chest, the first shot will be like nailing a deer in the headlights... while they try to recover, you can bet they'll never hear the second shot clean their clock.

USC and Vandy will be the surprise teams that knock the kings from their hill. While potential is good, it won't be enough to survive the gauntlet known as the SEC East.

[crawfish]

It would be a toss up between Florida and Auburn. I'll lean Florida.

[gatorunvrsty]

It's going to be a team from the Swamp. So, if it can't be Florida, it'll have to be LSU.

[Chief Broom]

LSU has the most talent so I'll pick them to win in ATL.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

LSULSULSULSU

[Neyland's Ghost]

I'm going with Arkansas. Dark horse.

[MillDawg007]

I want to say the Tigers in BAMA, however their road sched is terrible if not them then i would have to say. THE LSU TIGERS.

[The Ramp]

i'm going with WarEagle73's logic. Auburn always does well well when they're not suppossed to

[KillerNut]

SEC Championship game ( LSU vs. Florida)

SEC Champion....Florida

[PuddingTime]

I'll take Auburn.

[Tider27]

As Alabama fans, we don't expect Bama to be in ATL. Although we would accept/love it.

I will have to say LSU has the best shot.

[reese]

ill go with UT

[shk999]

I just dont buy all the pre-season hype surrounding LSU. Russell will hurt alot more than folks are letting on and the West should be alot better this year with BJGE coming up, DMAC's senior year at ARK, the arrival of Saban at Bama and a healthy B Cox complimented by a strong defense for the tigers. Just to keep Geaux-mer happy, lets say by chance they do manage to pull one more (last) good year out because of a favorable home schedule, they still lose in Atlanta to a very talented and very well coached UGA. UGA has a decient home schedule and luckily will get USC early in the year, which is a plus. I think USC will only continue to get better under the OBC and UF should have a good year, but a rebuilding year is always tough in the SEC. UK and Woodson......dark horse? Better watch out, just like Vandy, UK is more than capable of upsetting any (LSU @ UK) team in the SEC. Im sure UT will have another good year but I dont see them riding Ainge all the way to the SEC Championship Game.

2007 "The year of the Dawg"

[DonAU1124]

And picking South Carolina, as long as they dont have to play LSU in the SEC CG.

WDE!!!

[Dmldawg782]

LSU. Make or break for Les Miles.

[sheluvsbama]

I think it will very likely be the Florida Gators.

[True Grit]

I just dont buy all the pre-season hype surrounding LSU. Russell will hurt alot more than folks are letting on and the West should be alot better this year with BJGE coming up, DMAC's senior year at ARK, the arrival of Saban at Bama and a healthy B Cox complimented by a strong defense for the tigers. Just to keep Geaux-mer happy, lets say by chance they do manage to pull one more (last) good year out because of a favorable home schedule, they still lose in Atlanta to a very talented and very well coached UGA. UGA has a decient home schedule and luckily will get USC early in the year, which is a plus. I think USC will only continue to get better under the OBC and UF should have a good year, but a rebuilding year is always tough in the SEC. UK and Woodson......dark horse? Better watch out, just like Vandy, UK is more than capable of upsetting any (LSU @ UK) team in the SEC. Im sure UT will have another good year but I dont see them riding Ainge all the way to the SEC Championship Game.

2007 "The year of the Dawg"

Wait....You're saying this will be LSU's last good year?

:rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2:

[True Grit]

I just dont buy all the pre-season hype surrounding LSU. Russell will hurt alot more than folks are letting on and the West should be alot better this year with BJGE coming up, DMAC's senior year at ARK, the arrival of Saban at Bama and a healthy B Cox complimented by a strong defense for the tigers. Just to keep Geaux-mer happy, lets say by chance they do manage to pull one more (last) good year out because of a favorable home schedule, they still lose in Atlanta to a very talented and very well coached UGA. UGA has a decient home schedule and luckily will get USC early in the year, which is a plus. I think USC will only continue to get better under the OBC and UF should have a good year, but a rebuilding year is always tough in the SEC. UK and Woodson......dark horse? Better watch out, just like Vandy, UK is more than capable of upsetting any (LSU @ UK) team in the SEC. Im sure UT will have another good year but I dont see them riding Ainge all the way to the SEC Championship Game.

2007 "The year of the Dawg"

And you dont think UGA is rebuilding? They lost a ton of defense and 3 off the oline.

[The Ramp]

Wait....You're saying this will be LSU's last good year?

:rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2: :rolling2:

there's no wishful hoping in his post at all

:laugh: :laugh:

[Orange Blood]

I think it will be LSU

[Gator2753]

LSU. Im a Florida homer and I still think LSU will win the SEC next year

[SWINETIME]

I cant decide. I dont think LSU will win it because the loss of Russell be be to great and I am not sure their offense can get it done. UT, Florida, USC, and Georgia are all equal this year IMO. SEC east winner will have at least 2 losses this year. I would pick USC if their schedule was not so tough. As much as I hate to, I will pick UT. I still think ARK will win the SEC but if I cant be a homer, UT gets my vote.

[fernandomike]

Last season, LSU was better than UF everywhere except for the dudes with headsets on. This season, similar circumstances, same result.

[The Ramp]

Last season, LSU was better than UF everywhere except for the dudes with headsets on. This season, similar circumstances, same result.

LSU was the underdog playing in gainesville and gave up 5 turnovers to one of the best defenses in the nation. that's why we lost...not les. to dismiss florida's talent is simply lazy thinking. this les bashing gets stale. have ya'll any new material?

[fernandomike]

LSU was the underdog playing in gainesville and gave up 5 turnovers to one of the best defenses in the nation. that's why we lost...not les. to dismiss florida's talent is simply lazy thinking. this les bashing gets stale. have ya'll any new material?

Yeah, I saw the game. No, I did not dismiss UF's talent. It was second in the conference in my humble and altogether lazy opinion. Second is pretty stacked in this league though so there isn't much there in terms of disparagement. Oh, and I think that they're the second most talented team again this upcoming season. Sorry for the insult, gators.
Now, a question for you my knowledgable friend, isn't protecting the football exactly what well-coached teams do? I would look it up, but I'm feeling a touch lazy.

[The Ramp]

Yeah, I saw the game. No, I did not dismiss UF's talent. It was second in the conference in my humble and altogether lazy opinion. Second is pretty stacked in this league though so there isn't much there in terms of disparagement. Oh, and I think that they're the second most talented team again this upcoming season. Sorry for the insult, gators.
Now, a question for you my knowledgable friend, isn't protecting the football exactly what well-coached teams do? I would look it up, but I'm feeling a touch lazy.

i do believe the #1 pick in the draft threw the INTs and fumbled the ball. should les gone out on the field and took snaps?

[Gator2753]

i do believe the #1 pick in the draft threw the INTs and fumbled the ball. should les gone out on the field and took snaps?
I don't know but Mr. Nelson and Mr. Siler sure would have liked that.:laugh:
j/k

[The Ramp]

I don't know but Mr. Nelson and Mr. Siler sure would have liked that.:laugh:
j/k

he couldn't have done worse than JR

[jonthetiger337]

i pick georgia

[fernandomike]

i do believe the #1 pick in the draft threw the INTs and fumbled the ball. should les gone out on the field and took snaps?

Les should definitely not go out there and take the snaps. What Les should do is what good coaches do and that is put his players in the best position to succeed. You may delude yourself into thinking that Les is as good as Urban at doing that. And that would surely explain your desire to remove any responsibility from coaches for mistakes made on the field. If it were only that simple, coaches would hardly ever get fired. The responsibility is shared. Coaches have to do all they can to stress the importance of taking care of the ball as well as finding weaknesses in a defense so that players don't feel the pressure to force things. Players, on the other hand, have to play within themselves and remember the lessons that they were HOPEFULLY taught well throughout their many practices.
And by the way, slick. I answered your question, albeit a ridiculous one. Where is the answer to mine? Too lazy? or just confused?

[True Grit]

Les should definitely not go out there and take the snaps. What Les should do is what good coaches do and that is put his players in the best position to succeed. You may delude yourself into thinking that Les is as good as Urban at doing that. And that would surely explain your desire to remove any responsibility from coaches for mistakes made on the field. If it were only that simple, coaches would hardly ever get fired. The responsibility is shared. Coaches have to do all they can to stress the importance of taking care of the ball as well as finding weaknesses in a defense so that players don't feel the pressure to force things. Players, on the other hand, have to play within themselves and remember the lessons that they were HOPEFULLY taught well throughout their many practices.
And by the way, slick. I answered your question, albeit a ridiculous one. Where is the answer to mine? Too lazy? or just confused?

Not every game can be perfect. And Les doesnt put his players in position to win? Maybe there are some games where the players just dont deliver. Ever think of that?

And I think its funny that a Tennessee fan is preaching about good head coaches.

[The Ramp]

Les should definitely not go out there and take the snaps. What Les should do is what good coaches do and that is put his players in the best position to succeed. You may delude yourself into thinking that Les is as good as Urban at doing that. And that would surely explain your desire to remove any responsibility from coaches for mistakes made on the field. If it were only that simple, coaches would hardly ever get fired. The responsibility is shared. Coaches have to do all they can to stress the importance of taking care of the ball as well as finding weaknesses in a defense so that players don't feel the pressure to force things. Players, on the other hand, have to play within themselves and remember the lessons that they were HOPEFULLY taught well throughout their many practices.

that works both ways. blaming the coach for every little thing is tiresome. every team has bad days. JR led the SEC in passing effiencency but threw 4 INTs in the Florida game. he had a bad game period. he was able to throw 4 INTs vs a lesser team (i.e. Tenn) and still win. but, you can't throw 4 INTs vs. flor and win. that simply won't happen. coaches teach and players execute. simple as that. is les a good a coach as urban? no, but he's still not a bad coach most casual fans believe.

[fernandomike]

Not every game can be perfect. And Les doesnt put his players in position to win? Maybe there are some games where the players just dont deliver. Ever think of that?
And I think its funny that a Tennessee fan is preaching about good head coaches.


Did you read my post? I think I mentioned something about players sharing in the responsibility. It's hard to believe that you LSU boys find that statement objectionalbe. Sometimes the players don't deliver. Sometimes the coaches get outscouted. Sometimes they call a terrible game. Any of these things and other factors can lead to turnovers.
So you think that it's funny that I would comment that Les isn't as good as Urban considering our own head coach? Why? Guess what? I don't think Fulmer is particularly good either! That's just my honest non-homer opinion. I consider Fulmer and Miles fairly equal. So maybe the teams with good head coaches are laughing at both of us. :laugh:

[The Ramp]

Did you read my post? I think I mentioned something about players sharing in the responsibility. It's hard to believe that you LSU boys find that statement objectionalbe. Sometimes the players don't deliver. Sometimes the coaches get outscouted. Sometimes they call a terrible game. Any of these things and other factors can lead to turnovers.
So you think that it's funny that I would comment that Les isn't as good as Urban considering our own head coach? Why? Guess what? I don't think Fulmer is particularly good either! That's just my honest non-homer opinion. I consider Fulmer and Miles fairly equal. So maybe the teams with good head coaches are laughing at both of us. :laugh:

i think urban had a good game plan vs us. he loaded up the box and forced JR to throw. those two jacob hester TDs being called back hurt a lot. then our special teams decided to put butter on their hands before the game. there was a lot of things that went wrong for us. and most of that was the game was in gainesville and florida was the better team (hence the favorite to win). i don't think there was anything that les could have done any different. when it rains, it pours...and the bottom fell out the sky that night. it happens to the best of coaches.

[WallyGoat]

I'd like to say UF, but LSU looks good even without all of CNS's recruits. UT might be in the running if they can get some momentumn. If AU can beat LSU and UF this season, they may be looking at an SEC West crown.

[fernandomike]

i think urban had a good game plan vs us. he loaded up the box and forced JR to throw. those two jacob hester TDs being called back hurt a lot. then our special teams decided to put butter on their hands before the game. there was a lot of things that went wrong for us. and most of that was the game was in gainesville and florida was the better team (hence the favorite to win). i don't think there was anything that les could have done any different. when it rains, it pours...and the bottom fell out the sky that night. it happens to the best of coaches.

Well, a guess that's one way of looking at it. Faith in your coach is a good thing to have. I still think that the Tigers underachieve just a bit (if you accept that they are the most talented) and finish behind the gators. In a close matchup on talent, I'll begrudgingly take Urban in coaching.

[The Ramp]

Well, a guess that's one way of looking at it. Faith in your coach is a good thing to have. I still think that the Tigers underachieve just a bit (if you accept that they are the most talented) and finish behind the gators. In a close matchup on talent, I'll begrudgingly take Urban in coaching.

i'm not saying Les is w/o fault. I feel we had way too conservative a gameplan vs. Auburn. Of course, this wouldn't be an issue; if the refs would have called that game fairly.:brick: but flor was clearly the better team. practically their entire roster from last year is in the NFL whereas we had 5 players drafted (one in 7th and one in 4th). Four top ten teams on the road is a daunting task especially in the SEC. if Les underachieves this year, then I'll join your boat.

[Cjssax]

LSU over UT in atl!

[True Grit]

Well, a guess that's one way of looking at it. Faith in your coach is a good thing to have. I still think that the Tigers underachieve just a bit (if you accept that they are the most talented) and finish behind the gators. In a close matchup on talent, I'll begrudgingly take Urban in coaching.

They do underachieve, 2005 not included. But most of it is because Jimbo's playcalling became too predictable. Why he is considered the best OC is beyond me. I think Gary Crowton will do wonders with our offense. He likes to spread the field, so that will be awesome with our speed and talent.

[The Ramp]

They do underachieve, 2005 not included. But most of it is because Jimbo's playcalling became too predictable. Why he is considered the best OC is beyond me. I think Gary Crowton will do wonders with our offense. He likes to spread the field, so that will be awesome with our speed and talent.

Amen brother...the days of up the middle...up the middle...holding...punt are over!!!!:thumpsup: :thumpsup:

[True Grit]

Amen brother...the days of up the middle...up the middle...holding...punt are over!!!!:thumpsup: :thumpsup:

more like: up the middle, up the middle, screen, punt

[DEHIII]

LSU and they should do it by a wide margain. I think they face UF in the east which will be a horserace considering IMO there are 4 teams that very well could win that side of the bracket. In the west I think only AU and LSU are real contenders for the west crown.

[The Ramp]

more like: up the middle, up the middle, screen, punt

Jimbo Fisher must have had wet dreams about the Bubble Screen every night. he ran that damn play EVERY third down

[gatorhater]

LSU over us in ATL...but since I can't be a homer, I'll say LSU over UT

[Dickle Me Elmo]

Ahem. I don't think LSU will make it because the loss of JaMarcus Russell will be too great. I also don't think Alabama will make it because of the loss of Shaun Alexander. Tennesse won't make it, because they don't have Peyton Manning anymore. Florida doesn't have Danny Wuerfful, and Auburn doesn't have Bo Jackson, so count them both out, as well. Ole Miss won't be there because, well, frankly, they can't rely on Eli Manning or his father to carry them on their shoulders. And don't vote for Georgia to be SEC champions, either, because they don't have a running game anymore now that Herschel Walker decided to go pro.:wacko:

[gatorhater]

Ahem. I don't think LSU will make it because the loss of JaMarcus Russell will be too great. I also don't think Alabama will make it because of the loss of Shaun Alexander. Tennesse won't make it, because they don't have Peyton Manning anymore. Florida doesn't have Danny Wuerfful, and Auburn doesn't have Bo Jackson, so count them both out, as well. Ole Miss won't be there because, well, frankly, they can't rely on Eli Manning or his father to carry them on their shoulders. And don't vote for Georgia to be SEC champions, either, because they don't have a running game anymore now that Herschel Walker decided to go pro.:wacko:

Oh, Herschel still sits in the stands at games...that's enough.

[The Ramp]

Ahem. I don't think LSU will make it because the loss of JaMarcus Russell will be too great. I also don't think Alabama will make it because of the loss of Shaun Alexander. Tennesse won't make it, because they don't have Peyton Manning anymore. Florida doesn't have Danny Wuerfful, and Auburn doesn't have Bo Jackson, so count them both out, as well. Ole Miss won't be there because, well, frankly, they can't rely on Eli Manning or his father to carry them on their shoulders. And don't vote for Georgia to be SEC champions, either, because they don't have a running game anymore now that Herschel Walker decided to go pro.:wacko:

10/10....:thumpsup:

[VolWalk]

Ahem. I don't think LSU will make it because the loss of JaMarcus Russell will be too great. I also don't think Alabama will make it because of the loss of Shaun Alexander. Tennesse won't make it, because they don't have Peyton Manning anymore. Florida doesn't have Danny Wuerfful, and Auburn doesn't have Bo Jackson, so count them both out, as well. Ole Miss won't be there because, well, frankly, they can't rely on Eli Manning or his father to carry them on their shoulders. And don't vote for Georgia to be SEC champions, either, because they don't have a running game anymore now that Herschel Walker decided to go pro.:wacko:

I guess that leaves Kentucky (led by Babe Perelli) to win it all this year.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

I guess that leaves Kentucky (led by Babe Perelli) to win it all this year.

I don't know. They don't have Tim Couch. :laugh:

[GeauxTo]

Jimbo Fisher must have had wet dreams about the Bubble Screen every night. he ran that damn play EVERY third down

Unless it was 3rd and long, like 3rd and 17 or so, then Mr. Predictability would run up the middle, usually with Jacob Hester.

[True Grit]

How about this stat:

Oregon's offense played 140 more downs than us last year. That is how many plays we would run in roughly 2 and 1/2 games.

Jimbo ran the ball almost 100 more times than passing.

Gary ran 5 more times than he passed.

[Slap My Fro!]

Watch out for Kentucky this year. Tons of people are overlooking them. They're not going to win the SEC, but don't be surprised if they go BCS.

That being said the SEC Championship game will be LSU v. Florida.

I really don't see any other team stepping up in the West and since I can't pick my Vols in the East, Florida is the only other practical answer.

LSU wins it.

[msgadawg]

LSU looks like the team to take it.

[shanksta13]

LSU was the underdog playing in gainesville and gave up 5 turnovers to one of the best defenses in the nation. that's why we lost...not les. to dismiss florida's talent is simply lazy thinking. this les bashing gets stale. have ya'll any new material?

I argued with some LSU friends for almost 2 hours over a game of poker and we finally agreed that they were outcoached in that game. Specifically it came down to two plays, both of Tebow's TD passes. We agreed that the defense should have been prepared for the fake run and then pull up and pass. We argued this point for a long time, but we finally were able to agree that it was either the coaches not telling the players enough times to stay home, or just a lack of execution on the players' parts for not doing so. It wouldn't have been such a big point in the game if it hadn't happened twice. Other than that, I'd say the two teams were dead even and maybe LSU had a slightly better offense that had a horrendous day.

[The Ramp]

I argued with some LSU friends for almost 2 hours over a game of poker and we finally agreed that they were outcoached in that game. Specifically it came down to two plays, both of Tebow's TD passes. We agreed that the defense should have been prepared for the fake run and then pull up and pass. We argued this point for a long time, but we finally were able to agree that it was either the coaches not telling the players enough times to stay home, or just a lack of execution on the players' parts for not doing so. It wouldn't have been such a big point in the game if it hadn't happened twice. Other than that, I'd say the two teams were dead even and maybe LSU had a slightly better offense that had a horrendous day.

Bo Pelini had the best defense in the SEC. I'm comfortable with him calling the shots. You can't get every play right. we basically held flor's offense in check. it was the turnovers that caused our demise more than coaching IMO. and those two jacob hester's TDs called back really really hurt us not to mention JR fumbling the ball on the one inch line.

[shanksta13]

Watch out for Kentucky this year. Tons of people are overlooking them. They're not going to win the SEC, but don't be surprised if they go BCS.

That being said the SEC Championship game will be LSU v. Florida.

I really don't see any other team stepping up in the West and since I can't pick my Vols in the East, Florida is the only other practical answer.

LSU wins it.

Kentucky to a BCS? Kentucky will play spoiler this year, probably for more than one team, but there is no way they make a BCS Bowl this year. This is the SEC, not the ACC.

[shanksta13]

Bo Pelini had the best defense in the SEC. I'm comfortable with him calling the shots. You can't get every play right. we basically held flor's offense in check. it was the turnovers that caused our demise more than coaching IMO. and those two jacob hester's TDs called back really really hurt us not to mention JR fumbling the ball on the one inch line.

There were alot of factors in that game, bottom line is yall weren't on your A-game and we were. When two SEC powerhouses go at it that usually decides a game. I think we can all agree to that.

[shanksta13]

I'll take Auburn for 2007.

Reason: see 2004.

[The Ramp]

There were alot of factors in that game, bottom line is yall weren't on your A-game and we were. When two SEC powerhouses go at it that usually decides a game. I think we can all agree to that.

exactly...we didn't bring our C game. you can't win like that. it was just a bad..bad day. fingerpointing never helps anything

[WarEagle73]

I'll take Auburn for 2007.

Reason: see 2004.

Please keep that quiet. We only do well when nobody thinks we will. :laugh:

[Tider27]

I'll take Auburn for 2007.

Reason: see 2004.

Please keep that quiet. We only do well when nobody thinks we will. :laugh:

I'm confused on that reason. Everyone knew Auburn was going to have a solid team with Ronnie Brown AND Carnell Williams returning.

[SWINETIME]

Funny, coaches put more Arkansas players on the preseason all SEC-team than any other school "tie with lsu" but no one picks them. Classic.

[volimhtown]

Ahem. I don't think LSU will make it because the loss of JaMarcus Russell will be too great. I also don't think Alabama will make it because of the loss of Shaun Alexander. Tennesse won't make it, because they don't have Peyton Manning anymore. Florida doesn't have Danny Wuerfful, and Auburn doesn't have Bo Jackson, so count them both out, as well. Ole Miss won't be there because, well, frankly, they can't rely on Eli Manning or his father to carry them on their shoulders. And don't vote for Georgia to be SEC champions, either, because they don't have a running game anymore now that Herschel Walker decided to go pro.:wacko:

You know, I get what you are trying to say, but that was one of the biggest stretches I've seen in a while. Based on accomplishment alone, JaMarcus couldn't hold the jock of ANY of the aforementioned! 1/10 :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

[shanksta13]

I'm confused on that reason. Everyone knew Auburn was going to have a solid team with Ronnie Brown AND Carnell Williams returning.

They were expected to be second or third in the SEC that year... and predicted to win it the year before... and didn't... nevermind forget it.

[Tider27]

They were expected to be second or third in the SEC that year... and predicted to win it the year before... and didn't... nevermind forget it.

Guess I'm getting confused on years, but at least I knew in 04' that they were solid. :closedeye

[shanksta13]

Guess I'm getting confused on years, but at least I knew in 04' that they were solid. :closedeye

But they weren't expected to win the SEC West after a disappointing year the year before. I don't know it just seems to be a common theme with Auburn and Tennessee that they always flop under the spotlight and play their best football when the expectations are low.

[Tider27]

But they weren't expected to win the SEC West after a disappointing year the year before. I don't know it just seems to be a common theme with Auburn and Tennessee that they always flop under the spotlight and play their best football when the expectations are low.

This is true.