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gatorunvrsty
07-13-2007, 06:02 PM
By Chris Chmielenski
Managing Editor
Posted Jul 10, 2007
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In just two weeks, SEC Media Days kick off followed by the release of the all-conference teams. As usual, there will be several expected selections and some surprises. In anticipation of the new season getting underway, here’s the first part of a series ranking each school at each position in the league.

First up are the field generals – the quarterbacks. The Southeastern Conference produced the top pick in the NFL Draft, JaMarcus Russell, and also produced the BCS National Championship’s MVP, Chris Leak. In a league that’s usually known for its defense, it’s produced some pretty good QBs over the years.
But both of those two quarterbacks are gone, so which signal callers will be the best in the league this fall?

#1 – Andre’ Woodson/Kentucky – The most athletic quarterback in the SEC, Woodson has the ability to beat you with his arm as well as his legs. He returns with the highest quarterback rating of all starting quarterbacks in the SEC from last season, and has Kentucky fans excited about the fall. As a sophomore, Woodson completed 63 percent of his passes, throwing for 3,515 yards. Not only is he an efficient passer, but he also protects the football. In 2006, he threw 31 touchdowns against only seven interceptions. Only downside, he was sacked 36 times.

#2 – Erik Ainge/Tennessee – Being taught by the same coach that taught Peyton Manning, Ainge is poised to have a strong senior season. In 2006, he completed 67 percent of his passes for nearly 3,000 yards. He also threw 19 touchdowns against only nine interceptions. Maturity and consistency have been issues in the past with Ainge, but reports out of Knoxville say David Cutcliffe has him under control.

#3 – Tim Tebow/Florida – No one knows what Tebow will do running the Florida offense, but you can make a educated guess. He’s surrounded by possibly the best receiving corps in the SEC and his feet and stiff-arm have proven to be valuable weapons. The questions for Tebow will be can he withstand the pounding of a full SEC season and is he as good of a passer as he showcased in the Orange and Blue Game?

#4 – Matt Flynn/LSU – Flynn’s legendary status in Baton Rouge dates back to the 2005 Peach Bowl win over Miami. The Tigers crushed the Hurricanes 40-3 behind 13-of-22 passing for 196 yards and two touchdowns from Flynn. Plus, he rushed for 39 yards. He earned the start after Russell went down with an injury in the SEC Championship Game, but other than the bowl game, Flynn doesn’t have much experience other than mop-up duty. He’s a senior, though, on a very talented team.

#5 – Chris Nickson/Vanderbilt – This might be my stretch of the group, but with the success of Jay Cutler and the emergence of Nickson, Vanderbilt is beginning to look like Quarterback U. in the SEC. Nickson had a decent sophomore season as a dual-threat quarterback, throwing for 2,085 yards and rushing for nearly 700 more. The only knock on Nickson is that he throws just as many interceptions as he does touchdowns.

#6 – Matt Stafford/Georgia – Stafford spent most of last season playing the quarterback shuffle with Joe Cox, but he nailed down the starting job in the spring. The second rated quarterback from the class of 2006 - just behind Mitch Mustain and just ahead of Tebow – has Bulldog fans excited about his potential. After nailing down the fulltime role last October, Stafford threw for 1,749 yards. But he also threw 13 picks.

#7 – John Parker Wilson/Alabama – Wilson had a rough sophomore season, sacked 27 times with 10 interceptions. But with improvements upfront, a new coaching staff and a year of experience under his belt, Wilson could improve on a season where he threw for 2,707 yards.

#8 – Brandon Cox/Auburn – After a stellar sophomore season, Cox struggled as a junior. He threw nine interceptions and was sacked 34 times. Cox is dark horse candidate who could easily move up the list in ’07.

#9 – Blake Mitchell/South Carolina – Mitchell had a rollercoaster season last year, dealing with on-the-field and off-the-field issues, but he’s in his third year learning under the best in the business. Mitchell could be one of the best in the SEC, but with his top receiver – Sidney Rice – gone and inconsistency through the years, he’ll have to prove it.

#10 – Brent Schaeffer/Ole Miss – Last year, Schaeffer didn’t have the benefit of spring or summer workouts since he was completing his transfer to Oxford. Now with a full season under his belt, he could live up to the promise he showed as a freshman with the Vols.

#11 – Casey Dick/Arkansas – Dick has one job – get the ball to Darren McFadden. The end.

#12 – Michael Henig/Mississippi State - Henig put up less than impressive numbers in just seven games played last season. Completing only 44 percent of his passes for 1,201 yards, Henig threw more interceptions than touchdowns. He’ll need his teammates upfront to do a better job of protecting him in the fall.

bbqit
07-13-2007, 06:05 PM
It is very possible brent won't see the field. Not much research done on Ole Miss to put him ten. Then again, after last year, why bother.

gatorunvrsty
07-13-2007, 06:12 PM
Every list I've seen pretty much looks the same. A few guys are changed around here and there, but most seem to agree Woodson is the top QB of the conference. Back a few months ago, we had a similar poll, and many of us said that. It's a shame he'll be stuck trying to score a ton of points every game to get his team some victories. That D is still shaky. The rest look pretty accurate. One thing is certain... we have more than our share of choice QB's. Even most of these guys' backups could start anywhere else in the country.

tecmsu06
07-13-2007, 11:51 PM
I love how these guys failed to mention that Michael Henig broke his Collarbone twice last season... great "reporting"...

GeauxTo
07-14-2007, 12:01 AM
I love how these guys failed to mention that Michael Henig broke his Collarbone twice last season... great "reporting"...

Good point. I suspect Henig is going to be much better than it appears here. He's smart, he's got a good arm, and he's put on some weight and some muscle since last season. He might be the surprise QB of the SEC.

I would put Brent Schaeffer last. He's a big disappointment.
And I would put Blake Mitchell right ahead of Chris Nickson of Vandy. Mitchell is being coached by the absolute master of the QB position.

TDArkansasOhmy
07-14-2007, 12:38 AM
By Chris Chmielenski
Managing Editor
Posted Jul 10, 2007
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In just two weeks, SEC Media Days kick off followed by the release of the all-conference teams. As usual, there will be several expected selections and some surprises. In anticipation of the new season getting underway, here’s the first part of a series ranking each school at each position in the league.

First up are the field generals – the quarterbacks. The Southeastern Conference produced the top pick in the NFL Draft, JaMarcus Russell, and also produced the BCS National Championship’s MVP, Chris Leak. In a league that’s usually known for its defense, it’s produced some pretty good QBs over the years.
But both of those two quarterbacks are gone, so which signal callers will be the best in the league this fall?

#1 – Andre’ Woodson/Kentucky – The most athletic quarterback in the SEC, Woodson has the ability to beat you with his arm as well as his legs. He returns with the highest quarterback rating of all starting quarterbacks in the SEC from last season, and has Kentucky fans excited about the fall. As a sophomore, Woodson completed 63 percent of his passes, throwing for 3,515 yards. Not only is he an efficient passer, but he also protects the football. In 2006, he threw 31 touchdowns against only seven interceptions. Only downside, he was sacked 36 times.

#2 – Erik Ainge/Tennessee – Being taught by the same coach that taught Peyton Manning, Ainge is poised to have a strong senior season. In 2006, he completed 67 percent of his passes for nearly 3,000 yards. He also threw 19 touchdowns against only nine interceptions. Maturity and consistency have been issues in the past with Ainge, but reports out of Knoxville say David Cutcliffe has him under control.

#3 – Tim Tebow/Florida – No one knows what Tebow will do running the Florida offense, but you can make a educated guess. He’s surrounded by possibly the best receiving corps in the SEC and his feet and stiff-arm have proven to be valuable weapons. The questions for Tebow will be can he withstand the pounding of a full SEC season and is he as good of a passer as he showcased in the Orange and Blue Game?

#4 – Matt Flynn/LSU – Flynn’s legendary status in Baton Rouge dates back to the 2005 Peach Bowl win over Miami. The Tigers crushed the Hurricanes 40-3 behind 13-of-22 passing for 196 yards and two touchdowns from Flynn. Plus, he rushed for 39 yards. He earned the start after Russell went down with an injury in the SEC Championship Game, but other than the bowl game, Flynn doesn’t have much experience other than mop-up duty. He’s a senior, though, on a very talented team.

#5 – Chris Nickson/Vanderbilt – This might be my stretch of the group, but with the success of Jay Cutler and the emergence of Nickson, Vanderbilt is beginning to look like Quarterback U. in the SEC. Nickson had a decent sophomore season as a dual-threat quarterback, throwing for 2,085 yards and rushing for nearly 700 more. The only knock on Nickson is that he throws just as many interceptions as he does touchdowns.

#6 – Matt Stafford/Georgia – Stafford spent most of last season playing the quarterback shuffle with Joe Cox, but he nailed down the starting job in the spring. The second rated quarterback from the class of 2006 - just behind Mitch Mustain and just ahead of Tebow – has Bulldog fans excited about his potential. After nailing down the fulltime role last October, Stafford threw for 1,749 yards. But he also threw 13 picks.

#7 – John Parker Wilson/Alabama – Wilson had a rough sophomore season, sacked 27 times with 10 interceptions. But with improvements upfront, a new coaching staff and a year of experience under his belt, Wilson could improve on a season where he threw for 2,707 yards.

#8 – Brandon Cox/Auburn – After a stellar sophomore season, Cox struggled as a junior. He threw nine interceptions and was sacked 34 times. Cox is dark horse candidate who could easily move up the list in ’07.

#9 – Blake Mitchell/South Carolina – Mitchell had a rollercoaster season last year, dealing with on-the-field and off-the-field issues, but he’s in his third year learning under the best in the business. Mitchell could be one of the best in the SEC, but with his top receiver – Sidney Rice – gone and inconsistency through the years, he’ll have to prove it.

#10 – Brent Schaeffer/Ole Miss – Last year, Schaeffer didn’t have the benefit of spring or summer workouts since he was completing his transfer to Oxford. Now with a full season under his belt, he could live up to the promise he showed as a freshman with the Vols.

#11 – Casey Dick/Arkansas – Dick has one job – get the ball to Darren McFadden. The end.

#12 – Michael Henig/Mississippi State - Henig put up less than impressive numbers in just seven games played last season. Completing only 44 percent of his passes for 1,201 yards, Henig threw more interceptions than touchdowns. He’ll need his teammates upfront to do a better job of protecting him in the fall.

I don't think so. LSU's Flynn at #4. What a joke. Get this right. IM only going to tell you once.

#1. Erik Ainge/Tennessee

#2. Andre’ Woodson/Kentucky

#3. Matt Stafford/Georgia

#4. John Parker Wilson/Alabama

#5. Brandon Cox/Auburn ( If he stays healthy)

#6. Chris Nickson/Vanderbilt

#7. Tim Tebow/ Florida

#8. Casey Dick/ Arkansas (New OC David Lee adds new package for the hogs)

#9. Blake Mitchell/South Carolina

#10. Matt Flynn/LSU (and IM being nice to rank him here)

#11. Michael Henig/Mississippi State

#12. Brent Schaeffer/Ole Miss (If he's the starter that is)

gatorunvrsty
07-14-2007, 08:07 AM
Good point. I suspect Henig is going to be much better than it appears here. He's smart, he's got a good arm, and he's put on some weight and some muscle since last season. He might be the surprise QB of the SEC.

I would put Brent Schaeffer last. He's a big disappointment.
And I would put Blake Mitchell right ahead of Chris Nickson of Vandy. Mitchell is being coached by the absolute master of the QB position.

That may be, but, while I agree that Spurrier is the QB master, he just can't seem to get through to Mitchell. He's one hard-headed kid. Like the article says, he's in his 3rd year of tutelage, and the kid seems resistant to just do what the OBC tells him. Strange when one considers what the man did with UF QB's. But, Mitchell is responsible for more dead visors than any one player in my memory. Nickson's only liability is his supporting cast. I think he'd be around the top with UGA, UT, or UF.

AU Blaaaaaaaake
07-14-2007, 08:56 AM
Although I agree with where Cox is getting ranked in these polls, I really hope he surprises some people this year. If he returns to the field at the physical condition he was in during his sophomore year, with the experience of a 5th year senior, he could put up some big numbers.

One thing is for sure, when Auburn players aren't getting respect, they go out and play that much better.

Neo
07-14-2007, 10:29 AM
I love how the writer from Florida's Scout.com page put Tebow at #3 even though Tebow hasn't started a single game yet. :laugh: Here's a more OBJECTIVE look.


Here's USC's Scout.com rankings:

Ranking The SEC: Quarterbacks

By Jonathan Jolley
GamecockAnthem.com
Posted Jul 12, 2007

Football is in the air. Can you feel it? SEC Media Days start up on July 25, the start of fall practice is just over three weeks away, and kickoff to the 2007 season is inching closer with each passing day. In anticipation of the new season, GamecockAnthem.com presents a series of position-by-position previews, ranking the twelve SEC teams #'s 1-12. Today we begin by ranking the SEC quarterbacks.


Despite losing no. 1 overall pick JaMarcus Russell to the NFL and BCS Championship winning quarterback Chris Leak to graduation, it is still a strong year for quarterbacks in the SEC. With a mixture of returning veterans and rising young stars, it’s an interesting year to rank signal-callers in the best conference in college football. However, while many sportswriters rank players based on potential and/or past limited success, this analyst looks at previous consistency and productivity as two key factors when creating the rankings.

Read below for GamecockAnthem's 2007 pre-season SEC quarterback rankings:

1. Andre Woodson/Kentucky - Woodson could be the best pure passer in the SEC. He completed 63% of his passes for over 3,500 yards and had an unbelievable 31-7 TD to INT ratio last year. He was the second most efficient passer in the league last season, behind only JaMarcus Russell. Now heading into his third year as a starter and having the luxury of nine of his top ten receivers returning, Woodson’s primed for a huge senior season.

2. Erik Ainge/Tennessee - After a forgettable sophomore campaign in 2005, Ainge bounced back last season with a strong junior season under the tutelage of offensive coordinator David Cutcliffe. Last fall, Ainge completed 67% of his passes for nearly 3,000 yards with a 19-9 TD to INT ratio. However, those numbers came when throwing to one of the strongest wide receiver corps in the SEC. Now entering his senior season and viewed as the clear leader of the Volunteer’s offense, we'll see how he fares without the trio of Robert Meachem, Jayson Swain and Bret Smith on the receiving end of his passes.

3. John Parker Wilson/Alabama - Lost in all the turmoil of the Alabama program was the fact that John Parker Wilson was the best first year starting quarterback in the SEC last year. He actually threw for more yards (2,707) and touchdowns (17) than the revered Brodie Croyle did the year before, and he is the 3rd leading returning passer in the league behind Woodson and Ainge this season. With his top four receivers returning and one of the league’s better offensive lines to work behind, Wilson could put up gaudy numbers this fall.

4. Brandon Cox/Auburn - Cox did not have the kind of junior season he hoped for in 2006, completing 60% of his passes for only 2,198 yards, but he still helped lead the Tigers to an 11-2 campaign. His 14-9 TD to INT ratio was higher than expected last year, but Cox manages the game well and generally puts his team in position to win. He has the 3rd best returning pass efficiency rating in the league behind Woodson and Ainge, and if he can get better protection than last year, he should have a strong senior season with four of his top five wide receiver targets returning this fall.

5. Blake Mitchell/South Carolina - Mitchell unfairly caught most of the flack for USC's early season offensive struggles a year ago, but when given an offensive line to work behind, he's shown he can be one of the best quarterbacks in the conference. Mitchell’s strong play at the end of the 2006 season propelled the Gamecocks to a road victory over arch-rival Clemson and a shootout win over Houston in the Liberty Bowl, in which he was named the Most Valuable Player. He completed 67% of his passes for 1,789 yards and a 10-6 TD to INT ratio in only 6 starts last season, ranking 4th in the SEC in pass efficiency. Now in his third year in Steve Spurrier's system, Mitchell will be asked to bring along a young but talented wide receiver corp as the steady, efficient leader of the Gamecock offense this fall.

6. Matt Stafford/Georgia - The prized QB took his lumps as a freshman last year, but he showed progress throughout the season and played his best ball late in the year. Stafford completed 52% of his passes for 1,749 yards and a less than stellar 7-13 TD to INT ratio last year. However, the experience he gained as a freshman will likely pay dividends this season. Under the direction of new OC Mike Bobo and with the return of four of his top five receivers, Stafford is expected to take his game to the next level this fall.

7. Chris Nickson/Vanderbilt - The dual threat signal caller had a surprisingly solid first year as a starter, helping ease the loss of Jay Cutler to the NFL. Nickson completed 55% of his passes for 2,085 yards and had a 15-13 TD to INT ratio. He also led the Commodores in rushing with 694 yards and 9 TD’s. The next step for Nickson will be showing more touch and efficiency in the passing game.

8. Tim Tebow/Florida - Florida fans will say, "How is he so low?" It's simple - Tebow has to prove that he can consistently beat teams with his arm before being given consideration as one of the league’s elite quarterbacks. At this point, Tebow has shown that he is little more than a glorified fullback. Granted, he has as much hype as any QB in the league, but he'll need to show that he can consistently read a defense and make the throws, something he was not asked to do a year ago with only 22 completed passes. How will he perform as "the guy" this year without Chris Leak there to serve as a safety net? Only time will tell.

9. Matt Flynn/LSU - Flynn is best known for his breakout showing in LSU’s 40-3 blowout victory over Miami in the 2005 Peach Bowl. However, what not everyone realizes is that Flynn only completed 13 passes for 196 yards in that contest. That's not exactly groundbreaking. Fast forward to 2007, and the rising senior is coming into one of the most difficult circumstances any quarterback could ask for. He's expected to pick right up where no. 1 overall draft selection JaMarcus Russell left off and even take the Tigers to a place Russell couldn't - the BCS Championship. That's a lot to ask from a quarterback that completed all of 12 passes last season, and it doesn’t help matters that LSU lost its top two receivers from a year ago. While Flynn could very well come in and light up the SEC, he still has a lot to prove.

10. Casey Dick/Arkansas - Dick has shown flashes of potential the past two years, and with Mitch Mustain out of the picture, this season will be his chance to put it all together. The junior signal-caller completed only 49% of his passes last year for 991 yards and a 9-6 TD to INT ratio, but he'll have the luxury of working alongside the best backfield in America, and he has one of the top receivers in the conference in Marcus Monk.

11. Michael Henig/ Miss. State - Injuries and porous offensive line play have slowed Henig's progress the last two years. Last season he completed only 44% of his passes for 1,201 yards and a 7-9 TD to INT ratio. The good news for Henig is that MSU’s offensive line is expected to be slightly better this season, and the Bulldogs return their top five receivers.

12. Brent Schaeffer/Ole Miss - Schaeffer struggled so much a year ago, he may not even win the starting quarterback job this season for the Rebels. After having a full year in the system, he should show progress in 2007, but that wouldn’t being say much. Ole Miss fans are still holding out hope that he will display the Michael Vick-like ability that he showed in the prep


Scout.com: Ranking The SEC: Quarterbacks (http://southcarolina.scout.com/2/658195.html)

Neo
07-14-2007, 10:40 AM
For those of you that doubt Mitchell, check these stats out.....


If you look at Mitchell's numbers the last two seasons, regardless of the offensive line struggles, he stacks up favorably against the best quarterbacks in the league.

In 2005, Mitchell ranked 6th in pass efficiency, 4th in passing yards per game and 4th in total offense among SEC quarterbacks. That was in his first year as a starter.

In 2006, Mitchell started 6 games and played enough snaps in two others that it would equate to about 7 games of action (Closer to 6.5 really). In those games, he completed 67% of his passes for 1,789 yards with 10 TD and 6 INT.

If you then calculate his yards per game average, that would come to 256 ypg. through the air. That'd be good enough for 2nd in the SEC last year behind only Andre Woodson.

Mitchell's pass efficiency rating of 151.62 ranked 4th in the league last season behind only JaMarcus Russell, Woodson, and Erik Ainge.

He is the SEC's top returning quarterback in career completion percentage at 61.2 %.

Mitchell owns an 11-6 record as a starter the last two years, including wins over Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, Clemson and a bowl victory over Houston, in which he was named the MVP.

He ranks seventh in the South Carolina record books with 4,245 career passing yards.

Truthfully, the argument could be made that Mitchell should rank higher on the list than number five, but it'll be interesting to see how he performs this year as a fifth year senior heading into his third year in Spurrier's system.

thethird
07-14-2007, 11:08 AM
I like Neo's list a lot better. I think you gotta go with the guys that have experience in a conference like this. That's why JPW, Cox and Mitchell are up there. Tebow showed signs of greatness last year but he has a lot still to prove in my opinion. I think it's possible Tebow could be very over rated.

gatorunvrsty
07-14-2007, 11:09 AM
[QUOTE=Neo;245630]I love how the writer from Florida's Scout.com page put Tebow at #3 even though Tebow hasn't started a single game yet. :laugh: Here's a more OBJECTIVE look.


Hate to burst your bubble, but I didn't get that from Florida's page. I got it from Bama's. Along with these:Scout.com: Ranking the SEC: QB (http://mississippistate.scout.com/a.z?s=136&p=2&c=657705) Scout.com: Ranking the SEC: QB (http://louisianastate.scout.com/a.z?s=107&p=2&c=657705) Scout.com: Ranking the SEC: QB (http://vanderbilt.scout.com/a.z?s=189&p=2&c=657705)

The author isn't a Gator guy, he's a Scout guy. Only South Carolina's is different. Apparently, it would appear that the author of the South Carolina article is the only biased one. But, thanks for the "objectivity".:laugh:

Neo
07-14-2007, 11:20 AM
Hate to burst your bubble, but I didn't get that from Florida's page. I got it from Bama's. Along with these:Scout.com: Ranking the SEC: QB (http://mississippistate.scout.com/a.z?s=136&p=2&c=657705) Scout.com: Ranking the SEC: QB (http://louisianastate.scout.com/a.z?s=107&p=2&c=657705) Scout.com: Ranking the SEC: QB (http://vanderbilt.scout.com/a.z?s=189&p=2&c=657705)

The author isn't a Gator guy, he's a Scout guy. Only South Carolina's is different. Apparently, it would appear that the author of the South Carolina article is the only biased one. But, thanks for the "objectivity".:laugh:



Yeah...It's objective alright when this was posted above the article....:laugh:

"This story originally published on FightinGators.com"

Scout.com: Ranking the SEC: QB (http://vanderbilt.scout.com/a.z?s=189&p=2&c=657705)


Now you say he's not a Florida writer, let's look at some of his articles while doing a search on him within the Scout.com network.

"Ex-Gator Found Dead"
"Slow Start for Gators"
"Gators Make History"
"Relationship drew Shipman to Florida"
"McCray Spends Time with Coach Strong"

Scout.com: Top Stories (http://search.scout.com/a.z?s=189&p=4&c=1&search=1&sskey=%22Chris+Chmielenski%22&sssiteid=-1)


Consider yourself OWNED. :ohmy:

lacene
07-14-2007, 01:49 PM
Consider yourself OWNED. :ohmy:


seriously, gator-u. You're supposed to be the "research guru" here. You should have caught that. That "disclaimer" is only posted on every team page you linked....... :happy:

shanksta13
07-14-2007, 02:23 PM
Neo, I agree that Tebow shouldn't be ranked that high, as I stated at the beginning of the thread. I also believe that Mitchell will be in the Top 4 numbers wise this season assuming he doesn't hang around 5 Points too much. He looked great against us last year and if Spurrier can get him to continue the production he had going at the end of the year South Carolina should be in for a great year.

SavageOrangeJug
07-14-2007, 02:41 PM
Good point. I suspect Henig is going to be much better than it appears here. He's smart, he's got a good arm, and he's put on some weight and some muscle since last season. He might be the surprise QB of the SEC.

I would put Brent Schaeffer last. He's a big disappointment.
And I would put Blake Mitchell right ahead of Chris Nickson of Vandy. Mitchell is being coached by the absolute master of the QB position.
Cutcliffe went to SC????

I must have missed that.

gatorunvrsty
07-14-2007, 04:31 PM
seriously, gator-u. You're supposed to be the "research guru" here. You should have caught that. That "disclaimer" is only posted on every team page you linked....... :happy:

I definitely didn't catch that. I just read the story on Bama's page, but when I searched back for it, it showed up on every team's page. But, it's certainly no more one-sided than the different article on SC's site. I won't say Tebow belongs at #3... yet; but only a real homer, or homo (as the case may be) would put him at #8.

AuburnPawnTiger
07-14-2007, 04:46 PM
Michael Henig will be the surprise QB of the SEC

lacene
07-14-2007, 04:58 PM
Neo, I agree that Tebow shouldn't be ranked that high, as I stated at the beginning of the thread. I also believe that Mitchell will be in the Top 4 numbers wise this season assuming he doesn't hang around 5 Points too much. He looked great against us last year and if Spurrier can get him to continue the production he had going at the end of the year South Carolina should be in for a great year.

Haven't you heard, Shanks? Mitchell's given up 5 Points. He's hitting the wedding circuit, now.....:laugh:

GeauxTo
07-14-2007, 05:11 PM
Cutcliffe went to SC????

I must have missed that.

Yep... here he is doing his thing.:laugh:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/GeauxTo/Spurrier.jpg

Oh, and here's your mascot doing his thing.:laugh:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/GeauxTo/huntingdog.jpg

SavageOrangeJug
07-14-2007, 06:53 PM
LSU mascot doing his thing.

http://www.crazylanka.co.uk/tigermat.jpg

GeauxTo
07-14-2007, 09:53 PM
LSU mascot doing his thing.

http://www.crazylanka.co.uk/tigermat.jpg

Yeah, but we're getting a new one.
But you'll still have that old whore of a dog.:laugh:

Neo
07-14-2007, 10:37 PM
I won't say Tebow belongs at #3... yet; but only a real homer, or homo (as the case may be) would put him at #8.


Well, it looks like someone got their feelings hurt. As for Tebow not being at #8, what exactly has he done to earn a higher ranking????:wacko:

He attempted a total of 22 passes last year and hasn't even started a game yet and you're ready to crown him as an SEC Elite QB? :laugh:


Boy, the Kool-Aid is FLOWING ON THIS THREAD.

GatorHunter
07-14-2007, 11:58 PM
YouTube - Tim Tebow highlight reel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lNeKnfPIuI)

bbqit
07-15-2007, 08:25 AM
Michael Henig will be the surprise QB of the SEC

I don't think he will be a surprise. If ya watched him you could make the case that if he didn't get hurt last year Ms State would have made the indy bowl

shanksta13
07-15-2007, 12:20 PM
Well, it looks like someone got their feelings hurt. As for Tebow not being at #8, what exactly has he done to earn a higher ranking????:wacko:

He attempted a total of 22 passes last year and hasn't even started a game yet and you're ready to crown him as an SEC Elite QB? :laugh:


Boy, the Kool-Aid is FLOWING ON THIS THREAD.

I wouldn't say ranking him at 5 or 6 is "crowning him as an SEC Elite QB". Not to mention the fact that being the second leading rusher and scoring 13 TDs as a true freshman in a backup role isn't exactly doing nothing.

blues_cap
07-15-2007, 03:56 PM
Well, it looks like someone got their feelings hurt. As for Tebow not being at #8, what exactly has he done to earn a higher ranking????:wacko:

He attempted a total of 22 passes last year and hasn't even started a game yet and you're ready to crown him as an SEC Elite QB? :laugh:


Boy, the Kool-Aid is FLOWING ON THIS THREAD.

he attempted 28 passes last year.

consider yourself owned:headshake

shanksta13
07-15-2007, 04:16 PM
he attempted 28 passes last year.

consider yourself owned:headshake

Actually, yall are both wrong. He attempted 33 passes and completed 22 of them. :laugh:

tecmsu06
07-15-2007, 04:22 PM
I don't think he will be a surprise. If ya watched him you could make the case that if he didn't get hurt last year Ms State would have made the indy bowl

he played well coming off those injuries at the end of the season (387 yds vs UK) ... we played very close games against Kentucky, Georgia, and Ole Miss(Conner started). beat Alabama, and had a good game against Arkansas... in those four losses, we only lost by an average of 5.75 points...

blues_cap
07-15-2007, 04:32 PM
Actually, yall are both wrong. He attempted 33 passes and completed 22 of them. :laugh:

i thought he was in the thirties myself, but according to gatorbait, he was 20 of 28: http://florida.rivals.com/playerstats.asp?Year=2006&Team=FLORIDA

shanksta13
07-15-2007, 04:56 PM
i thought he was in the thirties myself, but according to gatorbait, he was 20 of 28: Florida Football Statistics (http://florida.rivals.com/playerstats.asp?Year=2006&Team=FLORIDA)

Hmmm well that's weird. I noticed ESPN has some different yardage totals than SECsports.com. Whatever, I'm pretty sure he actually attempted 33, that seems to be the most consistent number on websites with stats. Also, that's what SECsports has.

blues_cap
07-15-2007, 05:16 PM
Hmmm well that's weird. I noticed ESPN has some different yardage totals than SECsports.com. Whatever, I'm pretty sure he actually attempted 33, that seems to be the most consistent number on websites with stats. Also, that's what SECsports has.

may not of included the bowl game b/c i thought he had 5 tds and it is ony showing him with 4. that would make sense b/c he threw one in the nc game.

shanksta13
07-15-2007, 05:34 PM
may not of included the bowl game b/c i thought he had 5 tds and it is ony showing him with 4. that would make sense b/c he threw one in the nc game.

That's probably what it is.

SavageOrangeJug
07-15-2007, 06:46 PM
Yeah, but we're getting a new one.
But you'll still have that old whore of a dog.:laugh:
When is the last time that broken down old tiger bit someone? Our awesome Bluetick bit an Alabama player last year. The bite ripped his footbal pants, and drew blood.

Luckily the Bammer had all his shots, and our beloved Smokey didn't get sick. It had all worried for a bit.

GeauxTo
07-15-2007, 11:28 PM
Luckily the Bammer had all his shots,


Now that's funny!:laugh:

PuddingTime
07-16-2007, 06:36 PM
They're all good lists to me :D Our D was comprised of fresh/soph. and still lead the league in whatever that ratio is...turnover to something or other....you guys know what I"m talking about. We intercepted opponents passes regularly and effectively. Don't forget that. Also note that w/the removal of our horrible performance in Baton Rouge, as well as the trend as the season progressed towards a better defense, there's a lot to look forward to from them as well.

W/that said, they'll have to prove it on the field. Our offense doesn't concern me in the slightest. It will be amongst the best.

cocky4ever
07-17-2007, 08:35 AM
For those of you that doubt Mitchell, check these stats out.....


If you look at Mitchell's numbers the last two seasons, regardless of the offensive line struggles, he stacks up favorably against the best quarterbacks in the league.

In 2005, Mitchell ranked 6th in pass efficiency, 4th in passing yards per game and 4th in total offense among SEC quarterbacks. That was in his first year as a starter.

In 2006, Mitchell started 6 games and played enough snaps in two others that it would equate to about 7 games of action (Closer to 6.5 really). In those games, he completed 67% of his passes for 1,789 yards with 10 TD and 6 INT.

If you then calculate his yards per game average, that would come to 256 ypg. through the air. That'd be good enough for 2nd in the SEC last year behind only Andre Woodson.

Mitchell's pass efficiency rating of 151.62 ranked 4th in the league last season behind only JaMarcus Russell, Woodson, and Erik Ainge.

He is the SEC's top returning quarterback in career completion percentage at 61.2 %.

Mitchell owns an 11-6 record as a starter the last two years, including wins over Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, Clemson and a bowl victory over Houston, in which he was named the MVP.

He ranks seventh in the South Carolina record books with 4,245 career passing yards.

Truthfully, the argument could be made that Mitchell should rank higher on the list than number five, but it'll be interesting to see how he performs this year as a fifth year senior heading into his third year in Spurrier's system.

Exactly. That list is ok, but the Tebow and Mitchell rankings and logic make no sense. Mitchell is ninth because he has to prove himself, but Tebow is the 3rd best QB in the SEC and he hasnt even started a game:headscrat

timNem
07-17-2007, 08:48 AM
Exactly. That list is ok, but the Tebow and Mitchell rankings and logic make no sense. Mitchell is ninth because he has to prove himself, but Tebow is the 3rd best QB in the SEC and he hasnt even started a game:headscratI agree that makes no sense at all. I do think Tebow will be great but thats not written in stone either. Just like Saban hasn't coached a game at Bama yet, neither has Tebow started one.