For the Pac 10 haters

[BamaFanNKy]

i was royally flamed by most here when I defended the pac ten a week ago. I got to thinking about everyone saying it was at best a number five conference.

Well sine the bcs has started.... the PAC 10 is 23-22 against the Big 12. That would put them winning more head to head against the big 12. Now the ACC. The PAC 10 is leading in head to head 8-7 against the atlantic coast. As for the 'annointed second best conf.' Big 11 the PAC 10 leads 28-18'

Now I am in no way calling the SEC worse than the PAC 10. The Pac 10 leads the SEC in head to head wins 8-6 though. The only thing that the SEC beats the Pac 10 in is point diff. The SEC has killed the pac 10 so bad the margin is 44 points.

The point is.... if winning is all that matters... Les Miles and my fellow SEC fans need to start respecting our #2 conference... the Pac 10!

[MillDawg007]

I 100% agree. Living on the east coast we never see all the PAC 10 games. Its a different style of football but they are winning.

[The Ramp]

anyone can beat anyone on any given saturday. vandy could beat cal and stanford could beat auburn. but how many pac ten teams are ranked consistenty in the pacten? two at most. USC could win in any conference, but the rest of that conference is garbage IMO.

[Cjssax]

I just cant seem to get my self to give a crap on what goes on beyond the west side of Texas in college football. Yea USC, and Cal are fun to watch, but besides that there isnt anyone in that Conference that really is worth spending my Saturday watching, every now and then one of the Oregon schools might go on a run, but college football is more than just football to me. I love the bands playing, and the deep hated rivalries, and just the all out passion you have down here in the south. People on the west cost are so lackadazical, and are so laid back I just cant get into it out there like i can down here in the sunny south

[MillDawg007]

There are people just as crazy as us in the WEST. Just becuase we havent been there we judge them being noncommitted to their schools. I know plenty of kids from schools all around the SEC. My buddy last year got drunk and didnt even go to the UGA/TENN game last year after he had bought tickets earlier in the day. Traditions and loyal fans are found for every team. We just expereince more of that loyality from other SEC fans because that is our conference.

[The Ramp]

I lived in California (Monterey) and Arizonia (Huachuca City) and they like football like we like Women's Soccer. Fans are few and far between. I went to a couple of games (Stanford, Arizona, ASU) and was VERY disappointed.

btw-the girls at ASU blow all the combined girls in the SEC AWAY!!

[Bulldog Bry]

btw-the girls at ASU blow all the combined girls in the SEC AWAY!!

Now THAT I'd like to see!

[The Ramp]

Now THAT I'd like to see!


all the hot sluts from Cali go to ASU:thumpsup:

[tigervet4]

I lived in California (Monterey) and Arizonia (Huachuca City)

So what language did you learn?

[BamaFanNKy]

Wow! This went to blowing up their fans and saying you didn't care about anyone west of Texas. I don't know about Monteray but I grew up as a kid IN THE LA AREA and seeing Pac 10 schools at each others throat.

USC vs. UCLAis huge. Cal stanford is huge. granted there is more to do out west than most small towns in the south.

Now really outside the teams. Who cares about Clemson vs. USCar. or Ole Miss v. miss st. I find the ACC and Big 10 to be about as fun as watching old people F***. I like the Big 12.

All this being said THE PAC 10 IS STILL THE ONE WITH A WINNING RECORD.

As far as it being two teams or three.. that is crap. You have Cal, UCLA, USC, OREGON AND OSU. That is half the conference that will most likely be top 25. The SEC is the only other conference who percentage wise (6 teams in the top 25). Who are the top 4 in the big 11? 12? or even ACC. side note UK, USC, UK and Ole Miss are the 4 teams with no Pac 10 games since BCS. They are going head to head with our best.

[Neyland's Ghost]

There are people just as crazy as us in the WEST. Just becuase we havent been there we judge them being noncommitted to their schools. I know plenty of kids from schools all around the SEC. My buddy last year got drunk and didnt even go to the UGA/TENN game last year after he had bought tickets earlier in the day. Traditions and loyal fans are found for every team. We just expereince more of that loyality from other SEC fans because that is our conference.

It's a good thing he didn't make it to that pasting.

[Bulldog Bry]

USC vs. UCLAis huge. Cal stanford is huge. granted there is more to do out west than most small towns in the south.


It's not like there's a guy in Opp, Alabama who's sorry that he can't go to the San Diego Zoo, so he watches the Iron Bowl instead. There's something "to do" in every town, large or small. Football is what most people in the south WANT to do. Weddings are planned around the season, so are pee wee leagues (ever wonder why you play everything at 8am on Saturday morning?). I'm not saying that football is not big out there, but fans saying there's other stuff to do only means to me that they don't care enough about CF to watch it.

[The Ramp]

So what language did you learn?

Russian:thumpsup: :thumpsup:

[The Ramp]

Wow! This went to blowing up their fans and saying you didn't care about anyone west of Texas. I don't know about Monteray but I grew up as a kid IN THE LA AREA and seeing Pac 10 schools at each others throat.

USC vs. UCLA is huge. Cal stanford is huge. granted there is more to do out west than most small towns in the south.

Now really outside the teams. Who cares about Clemson vs. USCar. or Ole Miss v. miss st. I find the ACC and Big 10 to be about as fun as watching old people F***. I like the Big 12.

All this being said THE PAC 10 IS STILL THE ONE WITH A WINNING RECORD.

As far as it being two teams or three.. that is crap. You have Cal, UCLA, USC, OREGON AND OSU. That is half the conference that will most likely be top 25. The SEC is the only other conference who percentage wise (6 teams in the top 25). Who are the top 4 in the big 11? 12? or even ACC. side note UK, USC, UK and Ole Miss are the 4 teams with no Pac 10 games since BCS. They are going head to head with our best.

Three Pac Ten teams finished the 2006 season in the AP and USA Today top 25 poll and no more than 4 will be in the preseason poll. I lived in Pac Ten country for 3 years and found no one who gave a rat's ass about college football like we do and I've travelled all over Cali and Ari. Maybe, I didn't go to the right spots but Stanford Stadium was half empty for the Berkley game in 1995. Football is a hobby out there...it's a religion over here. I love to talk football and found very few people who share my enthusiasm out there. I wore a LSU hat to the bar once and the bartender asked me if I was a fan of Tiger Woods.

PacTen finished 3-3 in bowl games last season with losses to BYU, Haw, and FSU.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

It's not like there's a guy in Opp, Alabama who's sorry that he can't go to the San Diego Zoo, so he watches the Iron Bowl instead. There's something "to do" in every town, large or small. Football is what most people in the south WANT to do. Weddings are planned around the season, so are pee wee leagues (ever wonder why you play everything at 8am on Saturday morning?). I'm not saying that football is not big out there, but fans saying there's other stuff to do only means to me that they don't care enough about CF to watch it.
That statement in red is very true. I got married in September of 1983. My dad and uncle have been going to all the South Carolina home football games for as long as I can remember (since I was a child). Back when I told my dad that I was getting married and what date the wedding was going to be, he said: "Let me check South Carolina's schedule......we've got a home game that night. Plan accordingly." He was very serious about making sure that the wedding and game did not conflict.

[KillerNut]

anyone can beat anyone on any given saturday. vandy could beat cal and stanford could beat auburn. but how many pac ten teams are ranked consistenty in the pacten? two at most. USC could win in any conference, but the rest of that conference is garbage IMO.

Great, Great point :thumpsup: :thumpsup: :thumpsup:

[Bulldog Bry]

That statement in red is very true. I got married in September of 1983. My dad and uncle have been going to all the South Carolina home football games for as long as I can remember (since I was a child). Back when I told my dad that I was getting married and what date the wedding was going to be, he said: "Let me check South Carolina's schedule......we've got a home game that night. Plan accordingly." He was very serious about making sure that the wedding and game did not conflict.

index (http://www.fallweddingssuck.com/)

:laugh:

[BamaFanNKy]

Have you been to Vandy. I'm a season ticket holder and it is empty. They are the stanford of the SEC. Also not another SEC team is in a top 100 market. To compare Opp Alabama to L.A. on things to do... ludicrous.

The point I made is they have scoreboard on us with apathetic fans. This year they have 40 to 50 percent of their teams in the preseason top 25. Cal, USC, UCLA, And the orgs..... The SEC will need 5 to 6 teams in to equal that feat and they will. What other conference than the SEC will do that. You keep comparing it to the SEC. Compare it to the ACC and big 10. ACC may have 3 with 12 teams and Big 11 and 12 will be low as well.

[The Ramp]

Have you been to Vandy. I'm a season ticket holder and it is empty. They are the stanford of the SEC. Also not another SEC team is in a top 100 market. To compare Opp Alabama to L.A. on things to do... ludicrous.

The point I made is they have scoreboard on us with apathetic fans. This year they have 40 to 50 percent of their teams in the preseason top 25. Cal, USC, UCLA, And the orgs..... The SEC will need 5 to 6 teams in to equal that feat and they will. What other conference than the SEC will do that. You keep comparing it to the SEC. Compare it to the ACC and big 10. ACC may have 3 with 12 teams and Big 11 and 12 will be low as well.

SEC has led the nation in attendance for the past 20-odd years. SEC is different than other conferencs that even the cellar dwellers (excluding vandy) pack their stadium. i'll agree that there isn't much to do in the rural south and that's why we pack our stadiums and have such obsession with our teams. for whatever reason, the west coast fails to share our love of college football. they're more interested in the Lakers, 49ers, and the Diamondbacks. which is fine, but they don't tell me they represent like us.

i have yet to find ONE preseason poll that has 5 pacten teams in it. a couple will have four, but most have 3. like i said earlier, three pacten teams finished the season ranked of which one was in the top ten. Big 12 was down big time last year, but they're normally decent and the Big 10 has always been the Big 2 (now more like big 3 with wisky). ACC was the most competitive conference last year but no NC contenders. Pac Ten will always be Pac ONE in my eyes.

[BamaFanNKy]

Well PAC 1 has a winning record against the Big 4 conferences. Their fans might not be the best.... but their conference is a tough conference and the second best on the field playing. They only have 2 teams who top the top 25 in attendence.

Lindy's Top 25
1. USC
2. LSU
3. Michigan
4. West Virginia
5. Texas
6. Wisconsin
7. Tennessee
8. Virginia Tech
9. Louisville
10. Oklahoma
11. Florida
12. California
13. Ohio State
14. Arkansas
15. TCU
16. Rutgers
17. Georgia
18. Texas A&M
19. Hawaii
20. Wake Forest
21. Florida State
22. UCLA
23. Auburn
24. Boston College
25. Nebraska

3 Pac 10 teams

Athlons has:
#1. USC
#11. CAL
#15. UCLA
#22. OSU

Both are pretty big mags......

[WayzUp]

No conference is a deep in terms of teams that have a chance to win the conference championship as the SEC. Most of the other conferences have 2, 3, MAYBE 4 teams they can argue with but the rest suck on a regular and expected basis.

Which conference has the most players in the NFL? Which conference routinely leads the nation in attendance? Which conference almost always has the most teams in the Top 25?

There's no argument here...this is a long dead horse that comes up when we need to pass the time before football season starts and the argument is killed once again on the field, in the polls, in recruiting and in the NFL draft.

[The Ramp]

Well PAC 1 has a winning record against the Big 4 conferences.


like i said earlier, Oregon beats State and USC beats Ark. that doesn't mean too much to me. and i still don't see where 5 Pac Ten teams are ranked preseason. Maybe a couple of four and most have three.

[BamaFanNKy]

And the SEC (LSU) played a bad Arizona State.

Wins are wins. I am in no way saying the Pac 10 is the best. Just #2.

[DEHIII]

No conference is a deep in terms of teams that have a chance to win the conference championship as the SEC. Most of the other conferences have 2, 3, MAYBE 4 teams they can argue with but the rest suck on a regular and expected basis.

Which conference has the most players in the NFL? Which conference routinely leads the nation in attendance? Which conference almost always has the most teams in the Top 25?

There's no argument here...this is a long dead horse that comes up when we need to pass the time before football season starts and the argument is killed once again on the field, in the polls, in recruiting and in the NFL draft.


I don't think there is any disagreement with those statements. The poster however is arguing which is the 2nd best conference.

[The Ramp]

And the SEC (LSU) played a bad Arizona State.

Wins are wins. I am in no way saying the Pac 10 is the best. Just #2.


the same ASU that won their bowl game in 2005?

[WayzUp]

I don't think there is any disagreement with those statements. The poster however is arguing which is the 2nd best conference.

I'd have to say the Big Ten from top to bottom. That is, until Miami and FSU can help the ACC prove otherwise....so far the big exodus that was supposed to make the ACC a football superpower has kinda fizzled.

But you take away Cal and Southern California and what do you have in the PAC 10? A bunch of teams who are competitive every 5 years or so; they'd be balanced but they still suck. I put the PAC 10 as the 4th best behind the SEC, Big Ten(11?) and ACC.

The Big 12 is in the same boat as the PAC 10 to me...take away Texas and Okiehoma and your best team turns into (drum roll...) Nebraska? or A&M? C'mon....

[The Ramp]

don't laugh but ACC was the most balanced conference. you had VT, WF, FSU, Mia, Clem, Mary, and BC going to bowl games with almost the same record. if you bet (like i do), they have the lowest point spreads last year. you never knew who was gonna win that conference. i enjoyed watching their games because the teams were almost equal.

[Bulldog Bry]

Have you been to Vandy. I'm a season ticket holder and it is empty. They are the stanford of the SEC. Also not another SEC team is in a top 100 market. To compare Opp Alabama to L.A. on things to do... ludicrous.

The point I made is they have scoreboard on us with apathetic fans. This year they have 40 to 50 percent of their teams in the preseason top 25. Cal, USC, UCLA, And the orgs..... The SEC will need 5 to 6 teams in to equal that feat and they will. What other conference than the SEC will do that. You keep comparing it to the SEC. Compare it to the ACC and big 10. ACC may have 3 with 12 teams and Big 11 and 12 will be low as well.

Did I compare Opp to LA? No, go back and read it. I said there's things to do in Opp (it's all in what you want). When I hear the argument that folks on the west coast have other options than to go to college football games and so then DON'T go to the games, that tells me they are not as passionate about the sport as we are in the south.

[BamaFanNKy]

How anyone can think the big 11 is tops is beyond me. You have OSU (which has only beaten 1 SEC team in 50 years) Michigan and Wisconsin. After that... It's maybe Purdue or PEnn St. Remember the 28-18 record against the Pac 10.

The ACC is ok. The problem with them is it really is inconsistent.

As far as the Big 12... they have the toughest division and worst in the same conference. The big 12 south is Very good. The North blows.

For me it's SEC then waay behind Pac 10. Then ACC and 12 battle for third and Big 10.

[vandyfan84]

the thing is, we don't hate the PAC 10, we just hate the fans who think the PAC 10 is on the same level as the SEC

[vandyfan84]

Have you been to Vandy. I'm a season ticket holder and it is empty. They are the stanford of the SEC. Also not another SEC team is in a top 100 market. To compare Opp Alabama to L.A. on things to do... ludicrous.

The point I made is they have scoreboard on us with apathetic fans. This year they have 40 to 50 percent of their teams in the preseason top 25. Cal, USC, UCLA, And the orgs..... The SEC will need 5 to 6 teams in to equal that feat and they will. What other conference than the SEC will do that. You keep comparing it to the SEC. Compare it to the ACC and big 10. ACC may have 3 with 12 teams and Big 11 and 12 will be low as well.

what Vandy games have you been going to? The stadium is usually full, but there are more fans of the opposing team there.

[BamaFanNKy]

Well I'm not one who thinks that. but, If your conference won more head to head you would have a right to make the claim. But, on the same note SEC fans make the Pac 10 out to be below the Big East.

[BamaFanNKy]

what Vandy games have you been going to? The stadium is usually full, but there are more fans of the opposing team there.
Sorry Dude. As a proud owner of 20 season tix.... I know better. That stadium is not that packed. I go to 3 or 4 games there a year.

[vandyfan84]

Sorry Dude. As a proud owner of 20 season tix.... I know better. That stadium is not that packed. I go to 3 or 4 games there a year.

I never said it was packed like Neyland or anything like that, but you make it out to be like its Cumberland University's attendance, they still have to average their 15,000 to remain D1 and they do that and then some

[BamaFanNKy]

Every Pac 10 school does as well as Vandy. I Love going to VAndy. It pisses me off MORE Nashville and So. Ky. people don't go. If I had a kid that played football I would love for them to be in black and gold.

It is getting better since the Athletic Department was dissolved.

[The Ramp]

How anyone can think the big 11 is tops is beyond me. You have OSU (which has only beaten 1 SEC team in 50 years) Michigan and Wisconsin. After that... It's maybe Purdue or PEnn St. Remember the 28-18 record against the Pac 10.

The ACC is ok. The problem with them is it really is inconsistent.

As far as the Big 12... they have the toughest division and worst in the same conference. The big 12 south is Very good. The North blows.

For me it's SEC then waay behind Pac 10. Then ACC and 12 battle for third and Big 10.

the big 12 is currently down and the big 10 has always been the big 2 (but watch out for PSU and Wis). historically, the big 12 has been good but the North Div is horrible. i still like the ACC (looks good on paper at least) but i see your line of thinking. going into THIS season, i would rank pacten #2.

btw-i've only been to one game in vandy and it was packed. of course half the stands were LSU fans.

[BamaFanNKy]

I can't help but admit I am secretly rooting for Vandy and UK. That is when the conference can move to that next level... (follow me)

Uk and Vandy are actually the two biggest TV markets in conference (where the schools actual address are). That is when we as the SEC will have stronger media love.

[zorak34]

We are Pac 10 haters basically because 80 percent of the teams in that conference tend to suck more than anything along with most of the national media praising the ground that USC walks on because they come out of there conference winning all there conference games with the score something like 50-10. No sir I don't think there isn't anything great about the PAC 10 conference. USC would probably be a UT calibur team in our conference.

[bbqit]

If USC were in SEC they would be good enough to make a run that gets them to atlanta. They wouldn't get there undefeated and even though I'm sure they would put up a good game it would not be a sure win for them.

[BamaFanNKy]

Meanwhile the s*** conference hs a winning record. Zorac and Ole Miss fan... thanks for not reading facts and buying into east coast hype.

I think this USC team would kill all but 2 teams this year. LSU and UGA. This USC team does play defense. I also think UCLA, Cal and the two Oregon schools would run with most of the teams out here.

We are a conf. that schedules 21 sun belt and 1aa teams. Talk about weak schedule. At the same time the SEC in my opinion is the #1 conf. and PAc 10 #2.

[zorak34]

Meanwhile the s*** conference hs a winning record. Zorac and Ole Miss fan... thanks for not reading facts and buying into east coast hype.

I think this USC team would kill all but 2 teams this year. LSU and UGA. This USC team does play defense. I also think UCLA, Cal and the two Oregon schools would run with most of the teams out here.

We are a conf. that schedules 21 sun belt and 1aa teams. Talk about weak schedule. At the same time the SEC in my opinion is the #1 conf. and PAc 10 #2.

No sir I don't buy the USC hype. I figure five teams could put up good fight and have a good chance of beating them. LSU, AU, UG, UF, and UT. I relatively believe any of these D's could stuff that so called high powered O of theres (USC). Good old Booty over there hasn't seen a really good D line up close and personal. I believe he would be eating the turf a whole lot if they were in our conference. Now they may have a good D but any of these teams that I have listed has the capability to score 21 points on them though. For the rest of the teams you listed all five of those teams that I listed could beat them with a minor sweat. Come on UT wiped Cal up and down the floor last year I believe 35-18. UCLA went 7-6 last year yes what a great team. Oregon D blows like nothing else. O State has a good D but not so great O. If I were an SEC team I would trade spots with USC anytime because that ease the possibility of reaching the NC. I would rank the Big ten over the PAC 10 anyday. I would agree our teams would be better off scheduling high rank opponents. Oh and yes I do take a look a facts.

[bbqit]

No sir I don't buy the USC hype. I figure five teams could put up good fight and have a good chance of beating them. LSU, AU, UG, UF, and UT. I relatively believe any of these D's could stuff that so called high powered O of theres (USC). Good old Booty over there hasn't seen a really good D line up close and personal. I believe he would be eating the turf a whole lot if they were in our conference. Now they may have a good D but any of these teams that I have listed has the capability to score 21 points on them though. For the rest of the teams you listed all five of those teams that I listed could beat them with a minor sweat. Come on UT wiped Cal up and down the floor last year I believe 35-18. UCLA went 7-6 last year yes what a great team. Oregon D blows like nothing else. O State has a good D but not so great O. If I were an SEC team I would trade spots with USC anytime because that ease the possibility of reaching the NC. I would rank the Big ten over the PAC 10 anyday. I would agree our teams would be better off scheduling high rank opponents. Oh and yes I do take a look a facts.

Thanks Zorak. Put well. Playing these sec teams each week wears a team down as well.

[BamaFanNKy]

Wow you two must have great facts.... like the SEC has a losing record against that crap conference... usually playing them early in the season when they are healthy.

If you think Booty is worse than any SEC QB you are smoking crack. USC is the new Qb U!

[bbqit]

Wow you two must have great facts.... like the SEC has a losing record against that crap conference... usually playing them early in the season when they are healthy.

If you think Booty is worse than any SEC QB you are smoking crack. USC is the new Qb U!

Easy bamafankyvialeftcoast. I said if usc were in sec they could make it to atlanta and didn't rule out winning there. Yet, I am saying there are two in the west and four in the east that would give them a heck of a game and when you have to play at that level so many weekends it becomes even more difficult.

[BamaFanNKy]

SOrry the dude from Melmac got lumped with you. Psst. there are 4 teams in the pac that can play with SC.

[bbqit]

SOrry the dude from Melmac got lumped with you. Psst. there are 4 teams in the pac that can play with SC.

I'm sure there are four teams that can play. Yet not four that could go to atlanta

[zorak34]

I guess I'm not the only one that has seen the TV show LOL!

[zorak34]

Oh and lets take a look this past years bowl record for the SEC.

UF (beat Ohio State 41-14)
UG (Beat Virginia Tech 31-24)
UT (Lost to Penn State 20-10)
USCar (Beat Houston 44-36)
UK (Beat Clemson 28-20)
LSU( Beat Notre Dame 41-14)
ARKY (Lost to Wisconsin 17-14)
AU ( Beat Nebraska 17-14)
UA (Lost to Oklahoma State Big Suprise 34-31)

Well looky there 6 wins out of 9 doesn't look like we suck against non conference teams

[BamaFanNKy]

Dude you need to read... this is about the Pac 10 being the #2 conf.

[BamaFanNKy]

Dude you need to read... this is about the Pac 10 being the #2 conf.

[zorak34]

Thats probably true after having a couple O wild turkey I guess things tend to skew in different directions lol

[lacene]

what is the matchup record between the PAC-10 and SEC in BCS years? Which teams played which, and what were the scores?

[blues_cap]

what is the matchup record between the PAC-10 and SEC in BCS years? Which teams played which, and what were the scores?

regarding the 8-6 pac record, i do know that 4 of those wins are by uscw and 2 more were oregon vs miss state....and correct me if im wrong, but i think oregon was the pac 10 champs one of those years. hardly validating the stength of the conference, just the strength of 1 team.

also, it seems that the sec evened up this match-up last year... but im not sure.

[The Ramp]

Dude you need to read... this is about the Pac 10 being the #2 conf.

CURRENTLY...i agree

definately NOT last year

[Sabanocchio]

I do not agree last year or this year. The Pac10 is nothing without USC and Cal.

[The Ramp]

I do not agree last year or this year. The Pac10 is nothing without USC and Cal.

this year they got two more decent teams in Oregon State and UCLA (preseason wise). it remains to be seen, if they finish in top 25. only three teams finished last year ranked for them.

[Sabanocchio]

Don't forget ASU....I still think any one of those teams= Ole Miss in the SEC.

[The Ramp]

Don't forget ASU....I still think any one of those teams= Ole Miss in the SEC.

ASU has a new coach so they're a big question mark even though Rudy Carpenter appears to be pretty damn good.

I agree though. Outside of USC, I can't see any of those teams having a winning record in the SEC.

[Sabanocchio]

My point exactly. Why this thread is BS IMO.

[BamaFanNKy]

And your opinion is BS. Anyone who thinks the PAc 10 are a bunch of West Hollywood ankle grabbers are as ignorant as those who think the South is a bunch of Rednecks.

The Pac 10 is playing real football. The same guys who said the Spread Urban runs wouldn't work in the SEC are the same ones doubting the Pac 10.

As for the SEC wins over Pac 10 schools.... not one was at the Pac 10's stadium. All SEC wins were at home. We all know it's tougher on the road. The Bruins will shock most this year.

[zorak34]

I truly don't believe the reason why the vols beat cal last year was because they played at home. I'm sure they would have pretty much beat them the same way at there place. 35-18

[BamaFanNKy]

You are right... But that piece of crap stadium does give them an advantage.

Plus 100k plus fans singing songs about moonshine can rattle you. I give UT all the credit last year spaking them. I think this years game will be interesting.

[Sabanocchio]

And your opinion is BS. Anyone who thinks the PAc 10 are a bunch of West Hollywood ankle grabbers are as ignorant as those who think the South is a bunch of Rednecks.

The Pac 10 is playing real football. The same guys who said the Spread Urban runs wouldn't work in the SEC are the same ones doubting the Pac 10.

As for the SEC wins over Pac 10 schools.... not one was at the Pac 10's stadium. All SEC wins were at home. We all know it's tougher on the road. The Bruins will shock most this year.

Why are you defending the freaking Pac-10, you pansy? Go find a Pac-10 board to spout your nonsense on. I'm sure no one here would miss you.

[lacene]

Why are you defending the freaking Pac-10, you pansy? Go find a Pac-10 board to spout your nonsense on. I'm sure no one here would miss you.

I agree with this - or at least take it to the PAC-10 forum (http://www.sectalk.com/boards/pac-10/), in the "Other Conferences" section. This is the SEC Football Talk forum....

[BamaFanNKy]

Well no one has cared yet they responded. I was bringing it up because of goofball Miles popping off. Plus the many saying the SEC gets screwed by a conf. that is weaker than all. So myself and Ramp with a few others discussed it. It's a much better topic than our fans are drunker than yours.
Sabanocciho would like to blast me for pansy west coast.... hmm UT's QB is from? The one before that? And before that? Lot of West Coast Boys. I'm sure Munoz was a puss as well with those West Coast roots.

[Sabanocchio]

I didn't say you were a pansy because you were from the West Coast, you tard. I called you a pansy because you are one.

[BamaFanNKy]

I am nt one of your Printer's Alley John's. You must of confused me. I am the guy who likes a rational conversation.

Proper arguments have stuff to back up their point. Yours are.... Your stupid, your a pansy, that's crap. All things that your teachers must have told you instead of teaching you to come up with a substantial claim or fact to defend your position. You didn't even come up with a conf. that you thought to be second ranked behind the SEC... You just get mad and type lame responses. Go buy a book or search out the other conferences... than tell me where you would rank the Pac and who you think is second.... that is how you respond here.

[Sabanocchio]

I think that the Sun Belt is a close second to the SEC.

[PuddingTime]

^Yep. My cousin planned on getting married last year the same day as the Kentucky-Georgia game. Needless to say, he convinced the missus to have it moved to the night before, because no one of the male gender was "able to make it." lol

[lefty6]

Hello all SEC fans from Pac 10 country!! Cant we all just get along! I really respect the passion you guys have for college football. SEC has gotten the best of us lately , no denying that. You remind us of it Daily!!LSU fans can talk all they want in my opinion. Even though you barely got by Oregon State and Arizona St, they are wins none the less. But a South Carolina fan talkin smack??? what have they ever won?? I dont remember a big non-conference win from them EVER. ALAbama?? I remember them gettin Spanked by UCLA thats about it. Georgia beat Boise St. WOWW!!! their non-conference schedule is the weakest in the nation. Arkansas-- Hhahahaha what a joke that team is 70-14 and 50-14... vs. Southern Cal. I was at the 70-14 game and the SEC was embarassed. SC coulda put up 100 if they wanted to. Vandy, Ole Miss, Miss. St., Arkansas, South Carolina, Kentucky.. All soft teams that think just because they play in the same league as LSU and Fla and Auburn that they are "dominant " SEC teams. thats like Stanford sayin theyre great cuz they play in the same league as USC.. I will be back after Cal gets sweet revenge on the VOLS!!

[lefty6]

the West Coast invented the internet, so we will get on your sorry message board if we want to hillbilly

[Sabanocchio]

Hello all SEC fans from Pac 10 country!! Cant we all just get along! I really respect the passion you guys have for college football. SEC has gotten the best of us lately , no denying that. You remind us of it Daily!!LSU fans can talk all they want in my opinion. Even though you barely got by Oregon State and Arizona St, they are wins none the less. But a South Carolina fan talkin smack??? what have they ever won?? I dont remember a big non-conference win from them EVER. ALAbama?? I remember them gettin Spanked by UCLA thats about it. Georgia beat Boise St. WOWW!!! their non-conference schedule is the weakest in the nation. Arkansas-- Hhahahaha what a joke that team is 70-14 and 50-14... vs. Southern Cal. I was at the 70-14 game and the SEC was embarassed. SC coulda put up 100 if they wanted to. Vandy, Ole Miss, Miss. St., Arkansas, South Carolina, Kentucky.. All soft teams that think just because they play in the same league as LSU and Fla and Auburn that they are "dominant " SEC teams. thats like Stanford sayin theyre great cuz they play in the same league as USC.. I will be back after Cal gets sweet revenge on the VOLS!! Then let me say, It was nice knowing you.
the West Coast invented the internet, so we will get on your sorry message board if we want to hillbilly

Actually Al Gore invented the internet and he's from Tennessee.:biggrin:

[Neo]

But a South Carolina fan talkin smack??? what have they ever won?? I dont remember a big non-conference win from them EVER!


Remind me again as to South Carolina's record against So. Cal? :ohmy: The last time the Trojans visited Columbia, they got their lunch money stolen in a 38-14 rout. :laugh:

FYI: The SEC is 65-40-7 (All-Time) against the PAC-10. So that pretty much trumps your card doesn't it?