SEC's Best Position?

[The Ramp]

RB? WR? DE? LB? QB? CB?

I think the SEC is loaded at DE again with Tyson Jackson, Derrick Harvey, Quenton Groves, and Antwain Robinson going in the first round of the NFL Draft next year. Wallace Gilberry, Titus Brown, and Marcus Tillman aren't too shabby either. Thoughts?

[GatorNation]

Could be WR....maybe even QB if you count hype over results. Tebow and Stafford (etc.) haven't done anything yet, really, but Woodson, Ainge, Flynn, etc.

I'd agree with DE or WR for this year. In the next year or two, it'll definitely be QB.

[The Ramp]

WR position is good but not as good as our DEs IMO...Early Doucet, Percy Havin, Marcus Monk, DJ Hall, Keenan Burton, and Tony Burks. Andre Caldwell and Sean Bailey returning from injuries and Mohammed Mossaquoa (whatever) returning from a soph slump

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

RB/FB is pretty loaded.. you could take the RB's/FB's from Arky, LSU, and AU and have starters for an entire conference.

[The Ramp]

RB/FB is pretty loaded.. you could take the RB's/FB's from Arky, LSU, and AU and have starters for an entire conference.

Let's See:

DMac: Best RB in nation
KWilliams: Should be one of the best in conference
BLeester: See Williams
FJones: See Williams
Little: All-Purpose guy who slipped a little last year
BJGE: See Williams
ADixon: Tier II RB in SEC but still very good
KLumpkin: Could be one of the best in conference
CByrd: See Dixon

The rest of the conference is still shakey and new at the position. I agree the talent is there and definately better than the rest of the nation. But DMac is the only back that could prolly go first round next year.

[Who'sBoykinSOS]

DMac: Best RB in nation
KWilliams: Should be one of the best in conference
BLeester: See Williams
FJones: See Williams
Little: All-Purpose guy who slipped a little last year
BJGE: See Williams
ADixon: Tier II RB in SEC but still very good
KLumpkin: Could be one of the best in conference
CByrd: See Dixon

Are you serious...Have you ever watched this kid play? He runs with a chip on his shoulder and every defender knows his name by the 4th quarter. Tier II, this completely shows your knowledge or lack there of our backfield. Im not saying he is DMac but I wouldnt trade him for anyone else in the conference. Dont flame if you disagree you'll find out Sep. 22 who cory boyd is.

[The Ramp]

DMac: Best RB in nation
KWilliams: Should be one of the best in conference
BLeester: See Williams
FJones: See Williams
Little: All-Purpose guy who slipped a little last year
BJGE: See Williams
ADixon: Tier II RB in SEC but still very good
KLumpkin: Could be one of the best in conference
CByrd: See Dixon

Are you serious...Have you ever watched this kid play? He runs with a chip on his shoulder and every defender knows his name by the 4th quarter. Tier II, this completely shows your knowledge or lack there of our backfield. Im not saying he is DMac but I wouldnt trade him for anyone else in the conference. Dont flame if you disagree you'll find out Sep. 22 who cory boyd is.


68 yards a game who split time with Davis isn't that impressive statistically. he definately has the talent and has made the most of his opportunities. he could very well have a break out year. now take your panties out of you butt crack.:laugh:

[Who'sBoykinSOS]

Granted 68 isnt a great number of ypg yet he avgs. over 5 ypc. This year hopefully he will get the bulk of our carries. Also dont forget he has plenty of yards recieving out of the backfield. And when you total that out he gain about 107 a game. Again I understand were you are coming from with just rushing statistics but there is more to a complete back than just just rushing ypg. All these figures compared to K Williams who avgd 48 ypg rushing and 50 ypg all purpose. I agree K Williams is gonna be good but you cant honestly say should be one of the conferences best while C. boyd is a Tier II back.

[lacene]

68 yards a game who split time with Davis isn't that impressive statistically. he definately has the talent and has made the most of his opportunities. he could very well have a break out year. now take your panties out of you butt crack.:laugh:

first off, it's Boyd, not Byrd. 68 yards a game seems to be more impressive (to me) than Williams' 48 yards per game, or Lester's (damn, Ramp, wake up!) 42.5, or even Lumpkins' 61 ypg. And besides, Boyd might've rushed for more yards than the 4th best 2006 rush yards (of returning rushers), if he wasn't so busy racking up the receiving yards. Let's look at the total yards in rushing and receiving yards for the returning rushers on your list (player, GMS, TOT YDS, YPG):

1) McFadden, 14, 1,796, 128.3
2) Little, 9, 1,065, 118.3
3) Boyd, 12, 1,229, 102.4
4) Jones, 14, 1,275, 91.1
5) BenJarvis Green-Ellis, 12, 1,042, 86.8
6) Lumpkin, 13, 914, 70.3
7) Dixon, 12, 710, 59.2
8) Lester, 12, 597, 49.8

and your Williams: 9, 450, 50.0

based on actual numbers, and not blind homerism, Cory Boyd is the third best returning RB in terms of total yards (rushing + receiving) per game. That makes Boyd one of the BEST in the conference, no "should" about it. LSU's Williams may have potential (there goes that word again) to become one of the best, but the facts show - based on his actual production - that he IS a second-tier RB in the SEC.

That is, as long as the SEC's RB position only has two tiers......:ohmy: :whistle: :closedeye

[lacene]

Granted 68 isnt a great number of ypg yet he avgs. over 5 ypc. This year hopefully he will get the bulk of our carries. Also dont forget he has plenty of yards recieving out of the backfield. And when you total that out he gain about 107 a game. Again I understand were you are coming from with just rushing statistics but there is more to a complete back than just just rushing ypg. All these figures compared to K Williams who avgd 48 ypg rushing and 50 ypg all purpose. I agree K Williams is gonna be good but you cant honestly say should be one of the conferences best while C. boyd is a Tier II back.

good post, and you beat me to it! :thumpsup:

[The Ramp]

LMAO@these hyper-sensitive cocks. Keiland only started 4 games last year averaging 78 yards/game vs tenn, bama, ark, and ND as a TRUE FRESHMAN. those 48 yards/game are misleading since he didn't start til the Tenn game. look what he did when he touched the ball with 5.7 yards/carry while sharing time. this year the position is his alone. Boyd (whatever) got half of his yards vs KY, Vandy, and Clemson. If Boyd gets more than 200 carries; he could very well have a break out season. I never doubted his talent, but he's gonna have to get more than 1,000 yards to get the NFL's first draft day attention. Cock fans need to smoke a blunt or something. LOL

[GTTiger]

first off, it's Boyd, not Byrd. 68 yards a game seems to be more impressive (to me) than Williams' 48 yards per game, or Lester's (damn, Ramp, wake up!) 42.5, or even Lumpkins' 61 ypg. And besides, Boyd might've rushed for more yards than the 4th best 2006 rush yards (of returning rushers), if he wasn't so busy racking up the receiving yards. Let's look at the total yards in rushing and receiving yards for the returning rushers on your list (player, GMS, TOT YDS, YPG):

1) McFadden, 14, 1,796, 128.3
2) Little, 9, 1,065, 118.3
3) Boyd, 12, 1,229, 102.4
4) Jones, 14, 1,275, 91.1
5) BenJarvis Green-Ellis, 12, 1,042, 86.8
6) Lumpkin, 13, 914, 70.3
7) Dixon, 12, 710, 59.2
8) Lester, 12, 597, 49.8

and your Williams: 9, 450, 50.0

based on actual numbers, and not blind homerism, Cory Boyd is the third best returning RB in terms of total yards (rushing + receiving) per game. That makes Boyd one of the BEST in the conference, no "should" about it. LSU's Williams may have potential (there goes that word again) to become one of the best, but the facts show - based on his actual production - that he IS a second-tier RB in the SEC.

That is, as long as the SEC's RB position only has two tiers......:ohmy: :whistle: :closedeye

Williams didn't really get to play much in the first half of the season(which is when players are able to rack up numbers against cream puffs) because he didn't get cleared by the NCAA until right before the season. If you look at Williams's numbers from the 2nd half of the season, then he is much more impressive. He only has 9 carries in his first 6 games and 67 carries in the final 7 games.

[azamugg]

I hope that at the end of the season the other conferences will know that the answer to this question is the same as it was last year

Doggie Style

[Williams-Brice]

Cory Boyd will be a 1st day draft selection next year, but is in the 2nd tier of running backs in the conference.

Back to the theme of the thread, I think 1st team SEC QB is up for grabs, and nearly anyone has a chance to win it. I think we're going to see some good QB play in the conference this year.

[Neo]

LMAO@these hyper-sensitive cocks. Keiland only started 4 games last year averaging 78 yards/game vs tenn, bama, ark, and ND as a TRUE FRESHMAN. those 48 yards/game are misleading since he didn't start til the Tenn game. look what he did when he touched the ball with 5.7 yards/carry while sharing time. this year the position is his alone. Boyd (whatever) got half of his yards vs KY, Vandy, and Clemson. If Boyd gets more than 200 carries; he could very well have a break out season. I never doubted his talent, but he's gonna have to get more than 1,000 yards to get the NFL's first draft day attention. Cock fans need to smoke a blunt or something. LOL

Boyd shared time with Mike Davis, Taylor Rank and Bobby Wallace. So what's your point???:wacko:

Smoke this blunt.....


Here's Boyd's stats per game:

Vs. Mississippi State - 12 rushes/93 yards/4 catches/67 yards 1 td
Vs. UGA - 9 rushes/17 yards/5 catches/40 yards
Vs. Wofford - 11 rushes/74 yards 3 tds/1 catch/2 yards
Vs. Florida Atl. - DNP
Vs. Auburn - 5 rushes/28 yards/3 catches/28 yards
Vs. UK - 25 rushes/113 yards 1 td/4 catches/61 yards
Vs. Vandy - 22 rushes/113 yards/2 catches/3 yards
Vs. UT - 17 rushes/69 yards/4 catches/52 yards
Vs. Ark - 3 catches/25 yards
Vs. Florida - 11 rushes/40 yards/2 catches/5 yards
Vs. Middle Tenn State - 18 rushes/76 yards 1 td/2 catches/71 yards 1 td
Vs. Clemson - 16 rushes/106 yards 1 td/1 catch/9 yards
Vs. Houston - 18 rushes/94 yards 2 tds/4 catches/45 yards

The defense rests your honor. :thumpsup: :happy:

[The Ramp]

Cory Boyd will be a 1st day draft selection next year, but is in the 2nd tier of running backs in the conference.

Back to the theme of the thread, I think 1st team SEC QB is up for grabs, and nearly anyone has a chance to win it. I think we're going to see some good QB play in the conference this year.

If he splits time again with less than 1,000 yards/game, I see him as a 3rd round selection. I tell ya'll what cock fans, I'll bump boyd to Tier I and bump Leester to Tier II if ya'll stop with the whining.

The only QB I foresee going Day One in the NFL is Woodson and Ainge. That's not to say Nickson, Tebow, and Stafford can't do it in 2 years. I'm not sold on Mitchell or Cox as NFL caliber. That being said, I'd still put our QBs vs. any other conference.

[The Ramp]

Boyd shared time with Mike Davis, Taylor Rank and Bobby Wallace. So what's your point???:wacko:

Smoke this blunt.....


Here's Boyd's stats per game:

Vs. Mississippi State - 12 rushes/93 yards/4 catches/67 yards 1 td
Vs. UGA - 9 rushes/17 yards/5 catches/40 yards
Vs. Wofford - 11 rushes/74 yards 3 tds/1 catch/2 yards
Vs. Florida Atl. - DNP
Vs. Auburn - 5 rushes/28 yards/3 catches/28 yards
Vs. UK - 25 rushes/113 yards 1 td/4 catches/61 yards
Vs. Vandy - 22 rushes/113 yards/2 catches/3 yards
Vs. UT - 17 rushes/69 yards/4 catches/52 yards
Vs. Ark - 3 catches/25 yards
Vs. Florida - 11 rushes/40 yards/2 catches/5 yards
Vs. Middle Tenn State - 18 rushes/76 yards 1 td/2 catches/71 yards 1 td
Vs. Clemson - 16 rushes/106 yards 1 td/1 catch/9 yards
Vs. Houston - 18 rushes/94 yards 2 tds/4 catches/45 yards

The defense rests your honor. :thumpsup: :happy:

like i said....half his yards came off Clem, KY, State, and Vandy. My gawd, ya'll a whiney lot. LOL

:brick:

[goallthewayua]

Cory Boyd will be a 1st day draft selection next year

Agreed, Amsterdam can always use another utility back.

[lacene]

like i said....half his yards came off Clem, KY, State, and Vandy. My gawd, ya'll a whiney lot. LOL

:brick:

Not so much whining as simply calling the bullsh*t for what it is. The LSU fans on this site sure cried an awful lot over Flynn being put down as a SEC QB. He hasn't even played a whole season yet. :wacko:

I personally do not have an opinion about Williams, or any of the LSU RB's, and have no agenda against your team. Williams can lead the SEC in '07 for all I care: he can blow McFadden out of the water in the Heisman race, and average 200+ yds a game, and I won't lose a minutes sleep over it (as long as he doesn't on Sept. 22, that is).

But as of right now, he's done nothing but finish in the back end in the conference in terms of rushing, and nothing short of actually performing is going to guarantee that he does anything other than remain in the back of the pack. I'm sure he will turn out to be a great RB for LSU.

However you want to dissect Boyds' game-by-game performances (and please remember how highly USC's schedules are ranked each season, in terms of strength), it doesn't change the facts that he finished 6th in the SEC for '06 in total yards rushing (top half of conf.), is the 4th-leading rusher returning for '07 (top third), and led the SEC for RB's in total receiving yards (top everything). That does not make Boyd a second tier RB in the SEC.

[lacene]

Cory Boyd will be a 1st day draft selection next year, but is in the 2nd tier of running backs in the conference.


I disagree, see my above post.

[The Ramp]

Good Lord...Boyd is a Tier I RB and should be the #1 pick in the 2008 draft. I should tried and hanged for my mistake. anyone got a rope?

[lacene]

Good Lord...Boyd is a Tier I RB and should be the #1 pick in the 2008 draft. I should tried and hanged for my mistake. anyone got a rope?

apology accepted. ;)

[Dmldawg782]

RB is by far is the best position in the conference. Almost every team has a potentially dominant RB. Some have more than one that would star for other teams in other conferences.

[OleMissPike]

I agree with RB, there are the obvious McFaddens, but think about the break outs that will likely come next year. I think Coker at UT is going to really break out this year. Keiland Williams will break 1000. I think Lumpkin at UGA has been the best back they've had for a couple of years and they didn't give him the playing time he deserved until end of last year. I know UGA talks about Moreno's potential, but I wouldn't rush Lumpkin out the door just yet. BJGE is a stud; he made the Maxwell watch list for this season. Bama should have benched Darby all year last year and played Jimmy Johns every down, but he'll be back this year. RB in the SEC is stacked

[The Ramp]

I agree with RB, there are the obvious McFaddens, but think about the break outs that will likely come next year. I think Coker at UT is going to really break out this year. Keiland Williams will break 1000. I think Lumpkin at UGA has been the best back they've had for a couple of years and they didn't give him the playing time he deserved until end of last year. I know UGA talks about Moreno's potential, but I wouldn't rush Lumpkin out the door just yet. BJGE is a stud; he made the Maxwell watch list for this season. Bama should have benched Darby all year last year and played Jimmy Johns every down, but he'll be back this year. RB in the SEC is stacked

i think they moved johns to LB

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Boyd shared time with Mike Davis, Taylor Rank and Bobby Wallace. So what's your point???:wacko:

Smoke this blunt.....


Here's Boyd's stats per game:

Vs. Mississippi State - 12 rushes/93 yards/4 catches/67 yards 1 td
Vs. UGA - 9 rushes/17 yards/5 catches/40 yards
Vs. Wofford - 11 rushes/74 yards 3 tds/1 catch/2 yards
Vs. Florida Atl. - DNP
Vs. Auburn - 5 rushes/28 yards/3 catches/28 yards
Vs. UK - 25 rushes/113 yards 1 td/4 catches/61 yards
Vs. Vandy - 22 rushes/113 yards/2 catches/3 yards
Vs. UT - 17 rushes/69 yards/4 catches/52 yards
Vs. Ark - 3 catches/25 yards
Vs. Florida - 11 rushes/40 yards/2 catches/5 yards
Vs. Middle Tenn State - 18 rushes/76 yards 1 td/2 catches/71 yards 1 td
Vs. Clemson - 16 rushes/106 yards 1 td/1 catch/9 yards
Vs. Houston - 18 rushes/94 yards 2 tds/4 catches/45 yards

The defense rests your honor. :thumpsup: :happy:



Pretty bland stats. Nothing that says "top SEC RB" by any means.

[The Ramp]

Pretty bland stats. Nothing that says "top SEC RB" by any means.


you're about to be blasted by the cock fans

duck!!!

[lacene]

Pretty bland stats. Nothing that says "top SEC RB" by any means.

then the quoted post from Neo fits this thread, since nowhere in this thread has Boyd been referred to as the "top SEC RB". McFadden is the "top SEC RB".

Our arguments were that Boyd was not a second tier RB in the SEC. Unless the second tier RB's in the SEC is anybody NOT wearing an Arkansas jersey.....