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Rebel Chuck
07-10-2007, 11:37 PM
Dave Childers


Football experts tend to look for reasons to keep Ole Miss at or near the bottom of Southeastern Conference teams, but if they were to look for a reason for the Rebels to start winning in 2007, look no further than the offensive line.


Dave Childers

Micahel Oher is receiving All-American attention
In a short year and a half under veteran line coach Art Kehoe, the offensive line has gone from one big question mark to a unit that is among the top of all SEC teams.

A makeshift line emerged last season to pave the way for BenJarvus Green-Ellis to become only the third Rebel ever to gain 1,000 yards in a single season and the line figures to be much improved this season both in terms of experience and depth.

Head coach Ed Orgeron made Michael Oher a top recruiting priority when he took over late in 2004 and the prep standout hasn't disappointed. He made freshman All-American at right guard in 2005 after starting 10 games and was the coaches' selection for second team All-Conference last season as a true sophomore. He's receiving some consideration for All-American honors this season.

With the 6-foot-5, 325 pound Oher on board, Orgeron continued to build a line that was left brittle by the departed David Cutcliffe. He signed four-star right guard John Jerry, a phenomenal 6-foot-6, 340 pound athlete who won a starting position shortly after arriving in fall camp last summer and added Corey Actis, a junior college transfer who won the starting center position at the eleventh hour last season and ended up starting all 12 games.

The right tackle position last year was by committee after Daryl Harris won the job, then was injured. Several players were tried, including starting left guard Andrew Wicker, before Maurice Miller emerged at the position.

Wicker is the Rebels only loss from last season, and while the coaches loved his style of play, Reid Neely (6-foot-6, 310 pounds) emerged in spring practice to take over on Actis' left side.

Coaches were thrilled with Neely's improvement where he blossomed from borderline prospect to a student athlete with the skills that could move the sophomore into the NFL if he continues to improve. Neely appeared in 10 games last season.

Actis may be the least talented on the line in terms of raw ability, but has the intelligence and leadership to pull the line together.

While the front line starters are attention-getters in terms of size and experience, the biggest improvement could be in terms of depth.

Returning Starters: Michael Oher, John Jerry, Corey Actis, Maurice Miller

Other Key Returnees: Reid Neely, Darryl Harris, Thomas Eckers, Marcus Cohen

Signees: Mark Jean-Louis, Rishaw Johnson, Bradley Sowell, Alex Washington

Key Losses: Andrew Wicker
The Depth Chart

The Rebels lost only Wicker, but signed four prospects in the 2007 signing class.

Leading the way is junior college transfer Mark Jean-Louis, who enrolled in January and saw action during spring practice. Due to that experience, Jean-Lewis might be the first on the list of new faces to play, but four-star signee Rishaw Johnson likely isn't far behind. Johnson likely would have been thrown in the mix immediately had he arrived in either of Orgeron's first two seasons, but, barring several injuries, the Rebels should have the luxury to bring him along slowly. The same goes for Bradley Sowell, who's undergone a physical transformation from over 350 pounds when he verbally committed a year ago to around 310 pounds this summer and could surprise. Alex Washington has been on campus for the summer which should also give him a leg up when it comes to transitioning and physical conditioning.

That group will augment and compete for playing time against a solid group of reserves.

Harris can play either guard or tackle which offers some options in event of injuries and Thomas Eckers can play any position on the line including center, where he's slated to back up Actis. Actis and Eckers were neck and neck in the center competition last summer until Orgeron named Actis as the starter the day before the Memphis game despite Eckers appearing to lead the competition for most of the camp. That situation should make things more comfortable for Kehoe in the event Actis can't go.

Marcus Cohen has never lived up to his billing as a coveted recruit coming out of Clarksdale, but should add experience and depth if his name is called.

Orgeron has made it clear in interviews and at alumni gatherings that the offensive line is a strength, and he intends to use the massive offensive line to the advantage of the team this fall.

"I saw Chris Spencer and Marcus Johnson when I first got here," Orgeron said. "I knew we had to go out and get that type of lineman and we're doing that."

The unit should also be improved on pass blocking this fall. Offensive coordinator Dan Werner intends to use a short passing game and the short drops by the Rebel quarterback should be easy for the unit to protect.

Rebels fans would likely have to go back to the Johnny Vaught era to find a team with two All-Americans on the offensive line, but in Oher and Jerry, that could happen, if not this year, then certainly next year.

Some football experts may not be familiar with the Rebel line, but it's a given that the NFL scouts are.

MillDawg007
07-10-2007, 11:44 PM
1200 yards is a lofty expectation especially in the SEC. I would be very impressed.

Rebel Chuck
07-11-2007, 12:33 AM
1200 yards is a lofty expectation especially in the SEC. I would be very impressed.
Well my extreme homer status adds 100 extra yards

Cianne
07-11-2007, 12:37 AM
I'd rather see BJGE sit around 1000 yards with Eason getting 500-600 and Hall getting 300-400.

The Ramp
07-11-2007, 12:39 AM
how much of that yardage does the AD award him at the end of the year?

Rebel Chuck
07-11-2007, 12:56 AM
how much of that yardage does the AD award him at the end of the year?
I believe you have beaten that horse long enough Ramp. Why don't you cut me a little slack and let me celebrate in my deluisions

Rebel Chuck
07-11-2007, 12:59 AM
I'd rather see BJGE sit around 1000 yards with Eason getting 500-600 and Hall getting 300-400.
Yeah If we can say anything about this season it's that we are completly stacked at tailback. I wonder how often we'll run a split back formation

MSHawg
07-11-2007, 02:47 AM
Goodluck...but he would not have had 1000 yrds last year till y'all reviewed game films to give it to him. Let him do it on the field..then maybe people will respect it...just a thought:ohmy:

Rebel Chuck
07-11-2007, 02:54 AM
Goodluck...but he would not have had 1000 yrds last year till y'all reviewed game films to give it to him. Let him do it on the field..then maybe people will respect it...just a thought:ohmy:

How can you not respect 999 yards with virtually NO passing game?:wacko:

Rebel Chuck
07-11-2007, 02:56 AM
I'd rather see BJGE sit around 1000 yards with Eason getting 500-600 and Hall getting 300-400. You're talking 8 wins right there brother:thumpsup:

Cianne
07-11-2007, 02:56 AM
How can you not respect 999 yards with virtually NO passing game?:wacko:

Because he's a Razorback fan where they've never had a passing game (unless you count the AFL benchwarmer in Clint Stoerner) and they always seem to have a 1000 yard rusher.

goallthewayua
07-11-2007, 06:28 AM
Because he's a Razorback fan where they've never had a passing game (unless you count the AFL benchwarmer in Clint Stoerner) and they always seem to have a 1000 yard rusher.

Not to mention we all felt a little screwed when Green got first team all SEC over Jones last year.

Here's a look:

Att Yards Avg TD Long Yards/Game
Felix Jones 154 1168 7.6 6 85 83.4
BJ Green-Ellis 234 1000 (999) 4.3 7 31 83.3

What is this passing game thing everyone keeps referencing?

Rebel Chuck
07-11-2007, 06:50 AM
Not to mention we all felt a little screwed when Green got first team all SEC over Jones last year.

Here's a look:

Att Yards Avg TD Long Yards/Game
Felix Jones 154 1168 7.6 6 85 83.4
BJ Green-Ellis 234 1000 (999) 4.3 7 31 83.3

What is this passing game thing everyone keeps referencing?
Well you may have a point there about Jones, but I believe what most people liked about BJGE last year was that he got all those yards running between the tackles as well as his ability to never lose yardage even on completly busted plays. The workhorse factor

msgadawg
07-11-2007, 07:24 AM
I have to give him credit BJE is a good football player, But,,, He like Jarious Norwood had to do it on his own, He does not play around good players and he sure as heck is not coached well, Good Luck to BJE for another good year (Except for his last game in Starkvegas), maybe he will get some help but don't look for it, Look for him to go pro and have a breakout like J-Rock.

JerryBeeds
07-11-2007, 09:03 AM
I'll bet Reginald Vel Johnson could beat Joey Chestnutt's hot dog eating record.

The Ramp
07-11-2007, 09:59 AM
I believe you have beaten that horse long enough Ramp. Why don't you cut me a little slack and let me celebrate in my deluisions


i do need some new material:laugh:

OleMissPike
07-11-2007, 09:31 PM
i do need some new material:laugh:

I'd love to bust your chops on that one too, but I think everyone on SEC talk has contributed in wearing that one out. I personally don't understand why they went after that extra yard. 999 in the sec with a ragamuffin offensive line is respectable by any means. Expectations will be high this year because of the veteran mammoth offensive line so I hope he doesn't dissapoint, but I think he's hard nosed enough to break 1000 without any help from the film this year.

The Ramp
07-11-2007, 09:35 PM
I'd love to bust your chops on that one too, but I think everyone on SEC talk has contributed in wearing that one out. I personally don't understand why they went after that extra yard. 999 in the sec with a ragamuffin offensive line is respectable by any means. Expectations will be high this year because of the veteran mammoth offensive line so I hope he doesn't dissapoint, but I think he's hard nosed enough to break 1000 without any help from the film this year.

BJGE is a stud but teams will attack early and force Adams to throw taking BJGE outta the game.

GeauxTo
07-11-2007, 09:56 PM
I'm very impressed with Ben Jarvis Green Ellis. It is not a stretch to think that he might gain between 800 - 1,000+ yards in 2007. He's definitely the real deal.

OleMissPike
07-11-2007, 10:03 PM
BJGE is a stud but teams will attack early and force Adams to throw taking BJGE outta the game.

How is that different than what happened last year? I don't think anyone was scared of the worst passing offense in the SEC last year, why would this year be any different? Hell, you guys had the best D in the SEC last year, stacked the box all night, and he had 96 yards to the Schaffer/Adams combination of 95yds. He gained every bit of those 999.999987 yards with 7 or 8 in the box.

The Ramp
07-11-2007, 10:09 PM
How is that different than what happened last year? I don't think anyone was scared of the worst passing offense in the SEC last year, why would this year be any different? Hell, you guys had the best D in the SEC last year, stacked the box all night, and he had 96 yards to the Schaffer/Adams combination of 95yds. He gained every bit of those 999.999987 yards with 7 or 8 in the box.

exactly, we didnt attack early and played lackadasical (however thats spelled). that allowed the running game to keep going. plus O definately outcoached Les by playing to win with the fake punts and on-side kicks. Jimbo took it easy and almost paid the price for it.

Rebel Chuck
07-12-2007, 01:25 AM
BJGE is a stud but teams will attack early and force Adams to throw taking BJGE outta the game. From what I saw in the spring game that could be a good thing

The Ramp
07-12-2007, 09:46 AM
From what I saw in the spring game that could be a good thing

let's give him the Heisman...screw the season:laugh:

Rebel Chuck
07-12-2007, 11:05 PM
let's give him the Heisman...screw the season:laugh: I agree good post

Tider27
07-13-2007, 01:28 AM
Fact: Nobody cares if Ben Jarvis Green Ellis gets 1200 yards.

Rebel Chuck
07-13-2007, 02:41 AM
Fact: Nobody cares if Ben Jarvis Green Ellis gets 1200 yards.

Then don't click on the thread

Tider27
07-13-2007, 03:03 AM
Then don't click on the thread

Had to crush your "dream", sorry.

bbqit
07-13-2007, 06:03 AM
Fact: Nobody cares if Ben Jarvis Green Ellis gets 1200 yards.

You care. Maybe you are right.

bbqit
07-15-2007, 08:32 AM
let's give him the Heisman...screw the season:laugh:

BJGE peeed in a can. RED BULL

tecmsu06
07-15-2007, 04:30 PM
BJGE is awesome. The SEC West is stacked at RB this season...

Tider27
07-15-2007, 05:11 PM
You care. Maybe you are right.

My only motive was to let you Ole Sissy fans know. I know he's a good RB, no need to get your panties in a wad. :laugh: