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Wizard of Orange
06-05-2007, 07:30 AM
I see the Gator faithful tauting Cam Newton's prowess as TT's back-up. I'm thinkin " What's he done?". Anyway, it prompted this thread. Who do you think is the SEC's best back-up? I really like Crompton coming off the bench in relief of Ainge and GA has experience in Cox, etc.
I can't help but think Tebow's gonna need recovery time from time to time with that offense and even Ainge who ran like 3 times all year got hurt on one of those runs....SOOO, this could be a big factor for 2007.

dcbama
06-05-2007, 07:51 AM
Joe Cox from UGA. The way he and Stafford were snuggling in those pics from Talladega, you can tell that he and Stafford have been spending alot of quality time together, on and off the field, and should something happen to Stafford, Cox should be right there to step in. If not, at least these two appear to be the happiest Dawg couple since Green and Pollack.:dry:

BAMAPERRY
06-05-2007, 07:51 AM
Greg McElroy

Sabanocchio
06-05-2007, 07:54 AM
I see the Gator faithful tauting Cam Newton's prowess as TT's back-up. I'm thinkin " What's he done?". Anyway, it prompted this thread. Who do you think is the SEC's best back-up? I really like Crompton coming off the bench in relief of Ainge and GA has experience in Matthews, etc.
I can't help but think Tebow's gonna need recovery time from time to time with that offense and even Ainge who ran like 3 times all year got hurt on one of those runs....SOOO, this could be a big factor for 2007.I don't think there's any doubt. Crompton would start for a lot of SEC teams this year and is one of, if not the, best back-up in the league. He'll be much improved this year over last year, and be ready to step in and excell when Ainge graduates. No question we are set at quarterback for the next several years.

Gator2753
06-05-2007, 08:38 AM
Its UGA's Cox IMO. Experience is always how I base these things. Give it a year or so and I think Newton could be the best backup...
Insert: Crompton would probably be a close second in my book.

azamugg
06-05-2007, 08:51 AM
surprised we havent heard from some tigger fans about Perriloux

as far as the tide, I wonder if Barnes will take 2nd when he gets healthy, back from McElroy.........I couldnt put em up there as best 2nd in conference

I would think Georgia w/Cox

Sabanocchio
06-05-2007, 08:59 AM
Its UGA's Cox IMO. Experience is always how I base these things. Give it a year or so and I think Newton could be the best backup...
Insert: Crompton would probably be a close second in my book.There's definately an argument for Cox, but I'd for sure stack Crompton up against him. IMO, if both were starting for their respective teams, Crompton would have the better numbers.
surprised we havent heard from some tigger fans about Perriloux
Perriloux may or may not play this year. Can't be a back-up if he doesn't see the field.

GatorHunter
06-05-2007, 09:33 AM
I see the Gator faithful tauting Cam Newton's prowess as TT's back-up. I'm thinkin " What's he done?". Anyway, it prompted this thread. Who do you think is the SEC's best back-up? I really like Crompton coming off the bench in relief of Ainge and GA has experience in Cox, etc.
I can't help but think Tebow's gonna need recovery time from time to time with that offense and even Ainge who ran like 3 times all year got hurt on one of those runs....SOOO, this could be a big factor for 2007.

Has anyone been "tauting" Cam Newton? I'll have to go back and read some of the threads...all I've said is he's a great fit for our offense. Currently, there's not another QB in the SEC...besides Tebow, that has the "qualities" to run our offense. You're right, Newton has yet to do anything...he's a true freshman...but he was an early enrollee and did a great job in the Spring. Got tons of potential.

Seppeh
06-05-2007, 10:11 AM
Perriloux no doubt.

C_hris
06-05-2007, 10:34 AM
I am really surprised Cox decided to stay with us. He will not be able to be a starter at all his whole career....unless he redshirts but i dont see him doing that because next in line is blake barnes and well if he steps in........DOOM. But I would not have blamed him in the least if he would have decided to move on to another school.

GTTiger
06-05-2007, 11:19 AM
I'd say Perrilloux if he could cut out the legal issues and be a good lil kiddie. There are alot of SEC QB with promising futures though.

Neyland's Ghost
06-05-2007, 11:32 AM
I don't think there is any question that is Jonathan Crompton. The other guys, with the exception of Joe Cox, have never seen the field. Crompton almost beat LSU last year, who in my opinion was better than the Florida national champion team at that point in the season. Joe Cox played well against a Colorado Buffalo team in Athens which won how many games? Unless someone really asserts themselves in that role this year, there is no argument.

Seppeh
06-05-2007, 11:35 AM
I don't think there is any question that is Jonathan Crompton.

Uhm, ya there is question. His name is Joe Cox.

Sabanocchio
06-05-2007, 11:38 AM
Uhm, ya there is question. His name is Joe Cox.

Jonathan Crompton was much more highly regarded coming out of high school, one of the top ranked quarterbacks in the nation, and is being tutored under David Cutcliffe. He has been at UT for 2 full years learning behind Ainge, arguable the best QB at this point in the SEC. Cox is good, but wait 'til you see what Crompton can do.

Seppeh
06-05-2007, 11:41 AM
I will wait to see what he can do.

Against Tebow and Stafford, he will most likely get lost in the cracks in the national eye.

Neyland's Ghost
06-05-2007, 11:59 AM
I will wait to see what he can do.

Against Tebow and Stafford, he will most likely get lost in the cracks in the national eye.

The dude is a hard nosed player. I think the same can be said for National Champion, Tee Martin. I think Tebow will be a bust, and Stafford will put up some numbers but they don't have the intangibles of a Crompton.

Bulldog Bry
06-05-2007, 12:20 PM
The dude is a hard nosed player. I think the same can be said for National Champion, Tee Martin. I think Tebow will be a bust, and Stafford will put up some numbers but they don't have the intangibles of a Crompton.

Tebow a bust? How is Tebow not "hard nosed"? Everyone knew he was running each play and they STILL couldn't stop him.

C_hris
06-05-2007, 12:21 PM
Tebow a bust? How is Tebow not "hard nosed"? Everyone knew he was running each play and they STILL couldn't stop him.

Tenn. fans are on that Crompton kool-aid like Georgia fans were on that Stafford kool-aid last year.

C_hris
06-05-2007, 12:23 PM
By the way who is Flordia's second string QB now???

just wondering

GeauxTo
06-05-2007, 12:24 PM
I'd say Perrilloux if he could cut out the legal issues and be a good lil kiddie. There are alot of SEC QB with promising futures though.

Perrilloux could be as good as they get IF he can keep his head on straight and stay out of trouble. He needs to come to an understanding that becoming an NFL millionaire is far better than being a "gangsta."

Neyland's Ghost
06-05-2007, 01:13 PM
Tebow a bust? How is Tebow not "hard nosed"? Everyone knew he was running each play and they STILL couldn't stop him.

Touche'. What I am referring to is the fact that Tim Tebow is a coddled mama's boy who has been groomed for stardom since he was 5. Crompton is blue collar mountain boy who is tough as iron and earned his way to where he is today on his own merit. He is not blessed with the physical tools that a tebow has but he will go out a trade licks with anybody. Crompton is in the same vein as Brett Favre, whereas tebow has got the silver spoon in his mouth, he just happens to be a 235 lb. hoss of a quarterback.

C_hris
06-05-2007, 01:24 PM
Touche'. What I am referring to is the fact that Tim Tebow is a coddled mama's boy who has been groomed for stardom since he was 5. Crompton is blue collar mountain boy who is tough as iron and earned his way to where he is today on his own merit. He is not blessed with the physical tools that a tebow has but he will go out a trade licks with anybody. Crompton is in the same vein as Brett Favre, whereas tebow has got the silver spoon in his mouth, he just happens to be a 235 lb. hoss of a quarterback.

Hows that Crompton Kool-Aid taste ghost :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: im just messin with ya

timNem
06-05-2007, 01:56 PM
Touche'. What I am referring to is the fact that Tim Tebow is a coddled mama's boy who has been groomed for stardom since he was 5. Crompton is blue collar mountain boy who is tough as iron and earned his way to where he is today on his own merit. He is not blessed with the physical tools that a tebow has but he will go out a trade licks with anybody. Crompton is in the same vein as Brett Favre, whereas tebow has got the silver spoon in his mouth, he just happens to be a 235 lb. hoss of a quarterback.I have to disagree with you Neyland. All the tools that Tebow has such as strength and speed were not given to him. He had to develop that through sacrificing his time. When he could have been out hanging with his homies, he was in the weight room or running sprints. Its quite impressive when a QB benches 400 + lbs. You could almost compare his desire and work ethic to Pistol Pete. Just my .02.

Neyland's Ghost
06-05-2007, 02:45 PM
I have to disagree with you Neyland. All the tools that Tebow has such as strength and speed were not given to him. He had to develop that through sacrificing his time. When he could have been out hanging with his homies, he was in the weight room or running sprints. Its quite impressive when a QB benches 400 + lbs. You could almost compare his desire and work ethic to Pistol Pete. Just my .02.


I agree with your opinion there, but what i am saying is that crompton is more blue collar, more like a john daly type guy. He's like "one of us." Tebow has always been coddled. that is the point i am making.

gatormaniac
06-05-2007, 03:17 PM
I agree with your opinion there, but what i am saying is that crompton is more blue collar, more like a john daly type guy. He's like "one of us." Tebow has always been coddled. that is the point i am making.

Tebow coddled? Exactly what are you basing your opinion on? He's obviously a family orientated person and has done work for the church with his parents. Does this make him a coddled mommas boy? Do you know him personally?

gatormaniac
06-05-2007, 03:20 PM
By the way who is Flordia's second string QB now???

just wondering

Cam Newton looks to be the back up at this point. He's about as green as they come, but this kid is going to be special down the road. If Tebow goes down, it's going to be a rough ride.

C_hris
06-05-2007, 03:23 PM
Cam Newton looks to be the back up at this point. He's about as green as they come, but this kid is going to be special down the road. If Tebow goes down, it's going to be a rough ride.

Its not a fun ride either.......:brick: :brick: :brick:

GatorHunter
06-05-2007, 03:41 PM
Touche'. What I am referring to is the fact that Tim Tebow is a coddled mama's boy who has been groomed for stardom since he was 5. Crompton is blue collar mountain boy who is tough as iron and earned his way to where he is today on his own merit. He is not blessed with the physical tools that a tebow has but he will go out a trade licks with anybody. Crompton is in the same vein as Brett Favre, whereas tebow has got the silver spoon in his mouth, he just happens to be a 235 lb. hoss of a quarterback.

What the heck are you talkin' about?:blink:

Tebow comes from a middleclass missionary family...he and his family spend several weeks every year in the Phillipines ministering and helping families. He's far from having a silver spoon is his mouth and he and his dad ran and worked a farm most of his life...the kid is more like "us" than you realize.

As far as work ethic, no one works harder than Tebow...Meyer has actually made him "tone-down" his workouts....he was approaching 250#s so Meyer made him stop working out with the defensive lineman...the other players say Tebow is the first on the practice field and last to leave...he's even asking the WR to go to the field on Saturdays and "throw a little"...

I'm not arguing anything about Crompton...I know nothing about him. But I can tell you, your "impression" of Tebow is waaayyy off.

GatorHunter
06-05-2007, 03:43 PM
Its not a fun ride either.......:brick: :brick: :brick:

Cam Newton will be inserted into the games this season a lot like Tebow was last season...he'll be ready to play by mid-season, so I'm not too worried. Besides, Tebow will be running a lot less this time around...heck, he played 3 quarters of a HS game with a broken leg...had a 20 yard TD run to win the game.

C_hris
06-05-2007, 03:46 PM
What the heck are you talkin' about?:blink:

Tebow comes from a middleclass missionary family...he and his family spend several weeks every year in the Phillipines ministering and helping families. He's far from having a silver spoon is his mouth and he and his dad ran and worked a farm most of his life...the kid is more like "us" than you realize.

As far as work ethic, no one works harder than Tebow...Meyer has actually made him "tone-down" his workouts....he was approaching 250#s so Meyer made him stop working out with the defensive lineman...the other players say Tebow is the first on the practice field and last to leave...he's even asking the WR to go to the field on Saturdays and "throw a little"...

I'm not arguing anything about Crompton...I know nothing about him. But I can tell you, your "impression" of Tebow is waaayyy off.

Check please:twak:

C_hris
06-05-2007, 03:47 PM
Cam Newton will be inserted into the games this season a lot like Tebow was last season...he'll be ready to play by mid-season, so I'm not too worried. Besides, Tebow will be running a lot less this time around...heck, he played 3 quarters of a HS game with a broken leg...had a 20 yard TD run to win the game.

I was referring to Georgia QB situation last year but yes Tebow is tough.

UAdan
06-05-2007, 04:00 PM
I would say Crompton.

uscrebel
06-05-2007, 05:22 PM
MTBNL.....


Manning to be named later.

MillDawg007
06-05-2007, 05:27 PM
This post is entirely a biased feeling. Except for Bama because i have no idea who their backup is. Everyone is mostly picking their backup. Crompton is good no doubt but a mountain boy. I dont know about all that it seems like you feel you know the guy. Ill add to the homer boat though and say Cox. Simply because he rallied a team from defeat. No matter who they were playing the kid stepped in a played a hell of a game bringing UGA back from defeat. Crompton played decent vs LSU but that was ONE BIG PLAY towards half time. He looked like he knew nothing of the offense when he played the Hogs as well. Granted those were SEC teams but Cox seems to have a better grasp on his offense to me.

pvilleguru
06-05-2007, 05:42 PM
for whoever mentioned barnes maybe taking #2 for bama, it won't happen. barnes runs about a 3 minute 40. i think mcelroy has a great future ahead of him. i feel that barnes should go ahead and transfer. i'm not saying i don't like him, i just don't see him getting any playing time. i think mcelroy has #2 wrapped up. when fanuzzi gets on campus, the only reason he would be #4 is because they will redshirt him. otherwise, he would be #3.

Sabanocchio
06-05-2007, 05:42 PM
This post is entirely a biased feeling. Except for Bama because i have no idea who their backup is. Everyone is mostly picking their backup. Crompton is good no doubt but a mountain boy. I dont know about all that it seems like you feel you know the guy. Ill add to the homer boat though and say Cox. Simply because he rallied a team from defeat. No matter who they were playing the kid stepped in a played a hell of a game bringing UGA back from defeat. Crompton played decent vs LSU but that was ONE BIG PLAY towards half time. He looked like he knew nothing of the offense when he played the Hogs as well. Granted those were SEC teams but Cox seems to have a better grasp on his offense to me. I wouldn't argue that Cox had a better handle on his offense last year. Crompton was a RS Freshman. Played pretty damn good for a Freshman IMO. I didn't hang those two losses soley on Crompton. Granted had Ainge been in, we would've had a much better shot and IMO, beat LSU. Arkansas probably still would've won that game though. I screamed for Ainge all year in '05 and do not consider myself a huge Crompton fan. He belongs behind Ainge. But should he be forced into action this year, the dropoff will not be nearly as large as it was last season.

JerseyVol
06-05-2007, 06:00 PM
I like Cox strictly for the experience. However in terms of sheer talent and potential I think Newton and Crompton are on top of the list. But I'll stick with Cox (plus Crompton got absolutely RAILED in the Arky game).

MSHawg
06-05-2007, 06:31 PM
Darren McFadden:)

GatorHunter
06-05-2007, 08:05 PM
I was referring to Georgia QB situation last year but yes Tebow is tough.

My bad...see what happens when I try to post at work...:ph34r:

C_hris
06-05-2007, 08:09 PM
My bad...see what happens when I try to post at work...:ph34r:

Ha yeah I know how that is. Rush to read everything you can Ive done that many times.:brick:

MillDawg007
06-05-2007, 09:33 PM
Crompton is very good but from my view point watching him last season he looked very much like Tebow..Except not as effective..Looks to be a decent Qb in the future though if he can get a better handle on Davids offensive genius.

The Ramp
06-05-2007, 09:37 PM
seth adams....j/k crompton is your winner

A-TownDawgPound
06-05-2007, 10:48 PM
Cox...I think Perrilloux "could be" good minus the legal problems (I didn't even know you needed a fake ID in Louisiana), and the fact that everytime he gets in the game during blowouts, Les only lets him hand the ball off. He's got one completion in four attempts at LSU.

GoVols1998
06-05-2007, 10:53 PM
Crompton almost beat LSU last year, who in my opinion was better than the Florida national champion team at that point in the season.

Not too sure about that Florida'd D was awesome and it was what won the NC and im pretty sure they beat LSU and Crompton really did beat LSU if it wasn't for a ref's stupid call. O yeah and by the way we have Crompton and a great 3rd string QB in Nick Stephens.

Sabanocchio
06-05-2007, 10:55 PM
Not too sure about that Florida'd D was awesome and it was what won the NC and im pretty sure they beat LSU and Crompton really did beat LSU if it wasn't for a ref's stupid call. O yeah and by the way we have Crompton and a great 3rd string QB in Nick Stephens. And don't forget BJ Coleman coming on board. Our QB situation is the strongest in the SEC IMO. +Rep, '98 Did you get my PM?

GoVols1998
06-05-2007, 11:11 PM
And don't forget BJ Coleman coming on board. Our QB situation is the strongest in the SEC IMO. +Rep, '98 Did you get my PM?

Yeah i did bro, and i forgot all about BJ Coleman. I watched Video on him today he looks like he has a killer arm. With out a doubt we are set for QBs for a long time. with the most talent at that the positon in the SEC

The Ramp
06-05-2007, 11:27 PM
Not too sure about that Florida'd D was awesome and it was what won the NC and im pretty sure they beat LSU and Crompton really did beat LSU if it wasn't for a ref's stupid call. O yeah and by the way we have Crompton and a great 3rd string QB in Nick Stephens.

lmao....the call where the ball bounced off the vol PR and we returned for a td that the refs called back? please.... we almost had 500 yards of offense

GoVols1998
06-05-2007, 11:39 PM
Yeah 500 yards of offense and it still had to take a game changing call and a 4th and 7 prayer to win it for ya'll and if Ainge would of been in there u all would of got it HANDED to u like Georgia did.

A-TownDawgPound
06-05-2007, 11:44 PM
Yeah 500 yards of offense and it still had to take a game changing call and a 4th and 7 prayer to win it for ya'll and if Ainge would of been in there u all would of got it HANDED to u like Georgia did.

::laughs::
"...would of been"..."would of got..."
::laughs more::

GoVols1998
06-05-2007, 11:55 PM
::laughs::
"...would of been"..."would of got..."
::laughs more::

hey Geogia puppy congrats on beating us in 06...o:ohmy: 51 33 sorry i forgot Ainge is still undefeated in Athens right? Yeah thought so.:laugh:

Seppeh
06-05-2007, 11:56 PM
Ainge is still winless in Knoxville.

GoVols1998
06-05-2007, 11:59 PM
Ainge is still winless in Knoxville.

That will change very soon enough:thumpsup: see you at Neyland:laugh:

Seppeh
06-05-2007, 11:59 PM
Ha.. ya right..

You will see, bud.

GoVols1998
06-06-2007, 12:00 AM
Ainge is the kinda player that makes u look stupid in ur house (51 33)

Seppeh
06-06-2007, 12:01 AM
Or makes you look stupid in yours (2005 score here)

GoVols1998
06-06-2007, 12:04 AM
Or makes you look stupid in yours (2005 score here)

See you at Neyland lol:thumpsup:

Seppeh
06-06-2007, 12:11 AM
Iowa to Tennessee is quite the journey, so you probably wont see me per say. But you can see Stafford light ya'll up.

GoVols1998
06-06-2007, 12:15 AM
Lol ok or i can see the all american safety johnathon heftney pick staford off all game i think we have more of a chance of seeing that than stafford "lighting it up"

A-TownDawgPound
06-06-2007, 12:17 AM
See you at Neyland lol:thumpsup:

Sounds like a deal, I'll be the one in red and black marching down Phil Fulmer Drive after Ainge loses yet another game to the Silver Britches in his OWN house. Afterwards, I might talk about how much it reminded me of 2005 when I did the same exact thing.

GoVols1998
06-06-2007, 12:21 AM
Sounds like a deal, I'll be the one in red and black marching down Phil Fulmer Drive after Ainge loses yet another game to the Silver Britches in his OWN house. Afterwards, I might talk about how much it reminded me of 2005 when I did the same exact thing.

ok last time see you at Neyland:laugh:

Rebel Chuck
06-06-2007, 02:09 AM
Talk about things not going like you planned. We've got a blue-chip 5 star QB backing up our former walk on starting QB

Rebel Chuck
06-06-2007, 02:21 AM
seth adams....j/k crompton is your winner
Seth Adams is currently our starter

The Ramp
06-06-2007, 06:30 AM
Yeah 500 yards of offense and it still had to take a game changing call and a 4th and 7 prayer to win it for ya'll and if Ainge would of been in there u all would of got it HANDED to u like Georgia did.

LMAO...is this the vol answer to BP? sorry, the board homer position is full. "woulda...coulda...wait til next year". LOL

u never addressed that call where we had a TD called back. that JR fumble wasn't a fumble. only vol fans see it that way. the ONLY reason you guys were even in the game was because of JR's INTs (one of which gave you a TD). we dominitated EVERY phase of the game. not too mention tenn had one penalty all game whereas LSU had 10. wanna talk about bad officiating, go back to 05 where the vols got away with an obvious hold in OT. so don't even go there...:brick:

bbqit
06-06-2007, 06:34 AM
Refs! :angry: Not very nice are they

The Ramp
06-06-2007, 06:36 AM
Refs! :angry: Not very nice are they

not if you're auburn:laugh:

bbqit
06-06-2007, 06:39 AM
I saw that play just as I walked in the house last year. Bad call.

JerryBeeds
06-06-2007, 07:18 AM
We have a couple of good backups in Chris Smelley and Tommy Beecher. I hope neither one gets near a playing field this fall unless it's in mop up duty though.

Dmldawg782
06-06-2007, 08:49 AM
I'll give Crompton the nod, but Cox is a close second.

Sabanocchio
06-06-2007, 09:42 AM
LMAO...is this the vol answer to BP? sorry, the board homer position is full. "woulda...coulda...wait til next year". LOL

u never addressed that call where we had a TD called back. that JR fumble wasn't a fumble. only vol fans see it that way. the ONLY reason you guys were even in the game was because of JR's INTs (one of which gave you a TD). we dominitated EVERY phase of the game. not too mention tenn had one penalty all game whereas LSU had 10. wanna talk about bad officiating, go back to 05 where the vols got away with an obvious hold in OT. so don't even go there...:brick:

Actually, Ramp. That Russell fumble was clearly a fumble on replay. But he was reviewed down by contact and that isn't reviewable. That call would have been overturned and you know I am objective on the matter. There was the case of the ball hitting Morley that was missed too. Russell played lights out in that game, but I still think if we had Ainge, we would have won it.

The Ramp
06-06-2007, 04:04 PM
Actually, Ramp. That Russell fumble was clearly a fumble on replay. But he was reviewed down by contact and that isn't reviewable. That call would have been overturned and you know I am objective on the matter. There was the case of the ball hitting Morley that was missed too. Russell played lights out in that game, but I still think if we had Ainge, we would have won it.

i've watched it a million times on replay and he fumbled after he was down. i even watched it at a bar full of vols who said it go either way. even if he did fumble (which i don't think he did), that punt folly was way more obvious. even my vol friends admit this. but to say lsu won due to officiating is way off due to the ONE penalty called on tenn ALL night. if you look at the stats, the only thing that kept UT in the game was JR's multiple INTs (one of which gave ya'll a TD and another saved ya'll from another LSU TD). let's face it...the only thing stopped LSU's offense was JR (one of his worst and best games). i think ainge would've only duplicated his performance against us the previous year. we will never know. i like to think i'm pretty objective since i dated a vol for 2 years. i've even taken a liking to the color orange.:laugh:

MasonTheDawg
06-07-2007, 12:33 PM
this is the most hypothetical, factually unfounded discussion I have ever seen

GeauxTo
06-07-2007, 12:39 PM
this is the most hypothetical, factually unfounded discussion I have ever seen

"And," you forgot to add, "the first one that I've seen."
:laugh:

GoVols1998
06-07-2007, 12:45 PM
i think ainge would've only duplicated his performance against us the previous year.
how can you even say that did he duplicate his perfomance against any other team? Don't think so LSU just dont want to admit that our BACKUP QB about beat them the call on JR was an obvious fumble and i dont know what vol fans you are talking to, but they must be the one's at Tennessee School Of The Blind.

GTTiger
06-07-2007, 01:01 PM
how can you even say that did he duplicate his perfomance against any other team? Don't think so LSU just dont want to admit that our BACKUP QB about beat them the call on JR was an obvious fumble and i dont know what vol fans you are talking to, but they must be the one's at Tennessee School Of The Blind.

Lets for one second assume that UT got robbed in that game, which I think is an obvious falsehood. It can't even come close to comparing to how badly LSU got robbed against Auburn by the officiating.

On a separate note, it is very difficult to know how a game would have gone if Ainge had played. LSU might have won by more, but also might have gotten killed. Matt Flynn played an amazing game against Miami in the Peach Bowl, but maybe LSU wouldn't have played that well if Jamarcus played that game. There is just no way to know.

GoVols1998
06-07-2007, 01:20 PM
Lets for one second assume that UT got robbed in that game, which I think is an obvious falsehood. It can't even come close to comparing to how badly LSU got robbed against Auburn by the officiating.

On a separate note, it is very difficult to know how a game would have gone if Ainge had played. LSU might have won by more, but also might have gotten killed. Matt Flynn played an amazing game against Miami in the Peach Bowl, but maybe LSU wouldn't have played that well if Jamarcus played that game. There is just no way to know.

Um ok I was at that game I remember JR got sacked around the ankles and the trainers i guess just wanted to see if there was anything wrong so Matt Flynn came in a series and i remember him getting chased around and going three and out so i think if Flynn had been in there ya'll would of gotten killed and if Ainge was in there ya'll would of gotten killed bottom line.

hmsdawgs
06-07-2007, 01:27 PM
Its good to see the jawin back and forth with everyone is picking up.
Football season must be gettin closer!
Off topic, i know, but still good to see none the less.

I will go with Cox...only because he is the one backup in the conference that I know something about!

GoVols1998
06-07-2007, 01:30 PM
Its good to see the jawin back and forth with everyone is picking up.
Football season must be gettin closer!
Off topic, i know, but still good to see none the less.

I will go with Cox...only because he is the one backup in the conference that I know something about!

Crompton would wipe the floor with Cox just ask LSU

GTTiger
06-07-2007, 02:02 PM
Um ok I was at that game I remember JR got sacked around the ankles and the trainers i guess just wanted to see if there was anything wrong so Matt Flynn came in a series and i remember him getting chased around and going three and out so i think if Flynn had been in there ya'll would of gotten killed and if Ainge was in there ya'll would of gotten killed bottom line.

It's one thing for a QB to come in for just one drive and another for a QB to play the whole game. Shockley sucked when he would come in for David Greene against LSU when Greene had to leave for a drive. But, when the offense was centered around him, he did great.

They are different a different style of QB and therefore need the offense to be run differently with each of them.

Anyhow, my point was more that it's impossible to know what would have happened with a different QB. Ainge might not have completed those long balls that crompton did, but maybe he would have completed more. No one will ever know.

timNem
06-07-2007, 02:08 PM
I'd say Crompton, then Cox.

hmsdawgs
06-07-2007, 02:13 PM
Crompton would wipe the floor with Cox just ask LSU

Naa, Cox would wipe the floor with Cromption, just ask Colorado!

Bulldog Bry
06-07-2007, 03:55 PM
Crompton would wipe the floor with Cox just ask LSU

I thought we already did?

gatorunvrsty
06-07-2007, 04:03 PM
I'm going with Cox. Crompton and Newton could start for anybody, too. I just thought Cox looked better running the offense than even Stafford did, last year.

The Ramp
06-07-2007, 04:58 PM
how can you even say that did he duplicate his perfomance against any other team? Don't think so LSU just dont want to admit that our BACKUP QB about beat them the call on JR was an obvious fumble and i dont know what vol fans you are talking to, but they must be the one's at Tennessee School Of The Blind.

once again you guys sidestep the obvious punt folly TD called back and the ONE penalty tenn got called for. selective memory at its finest. we certainly underestimated crompton, but wishing ainge would beat us is just wishing. JR is the only reason you guys were in the game period. look at the stats. keep drinking the orange moonshine.

passing yards: LSU 247 UT 186 (all off one bomb)
rushing yards: LSU 231 UT 62
total yards: LSU 478 UT 248
TOP: LSU 41:06 UT 18:54 (LSU more than doubles UT)
Penalties: LSU 9 (58 yards) UT 1 (15 yards)
Turnovers: LSU 4 UT 1

you guys got dominated and JR and the refs tried to give ya'll the game. u can't spin those stats.

blues_cap
06-07-2007, 08:19 PM
kind of a hard question to answer considering all are back-ups...meaning none have proved enough to warrant a starting job. any answer in this thread is pure speculation-

you have cox(if he was that good, he would be starting right now considering stafford's freshman season).
newton who hasnt taken a snap.
perriloux who hasnt taken a snap.
crompton is average at best from what we've seen.
does alabama have a back-up???
auburn has a back-up starting(insert beat uf joke here). was blackmon the qb??
arkansas has a 5th stringer starting.
ole miss doesnt have a back-up as you have to have a starter to have a back-up.
kentucky??
vandy??
ms state???
usc??? is syvelle newton still the back-up wr/ qb/ free safety(j/k, i know he is now the back-up qb coach at some hs).

my answer is...undecided. if cox and crompton are the best(which are the onl 2 we've seen), the sec is in for a decline at the qb position for the next few years. until we've seen some of the others play, it is anybody's guess.

C_hris
06-07-2007, 08:57 PM
kind of a hard question to answer considering all are back-ups...meaning none have proved enough to warrant a starting job. any answer in this thread is pure speculation-

you have cox(if he was that good, he would be starting right now considering stafford's freshman season).
newton who hasnt taken a snap.
perriloux who hasnt taken a snap.
crompton is average at best from what we've seen.
does alabama have a back-up???
auburn has a back-up starting(insert beat uf joke here). was blackmon the qb??
arkansas has a 5th stringer starting.
ole miss doesnt have a back-up as you have to have a starter to have a back-up.
kentucky??
vandy??
ms state???
usc??? is syvelle newton still the back-up wr/ qb/ free safety(j/k, i know he is now the back-up qb coach at some hs).

my answer is...undecided. if cox and crompton are the best(which are the onl 2 we've seen), the sec is in for a decline at the qb position for the next few years. until we've seen some of the others play, it is anybody's guess.

......Cox was fighting Stafford for the starting postion the whole year last season.....So by your reconing Stafford isnt very good either.....Even one of your fellow Gators said he liked the way Cox looked over Stafford last year.....I was on the Joe Cox bandwagon as well although most of my friends hopped on Staffords. But to say he is know good....well if that wasnt true he wouldnt be playing for Georgia in the first place......I take that back our third string QB is horrible.

blues_cap
06-07-2007, 09:02 PM
......Cox was fighting Stafford for the starting postion the whole year last season.....So by your reconing Stafford isnt very good either.....Even one of your fellow Gators said he liked the way Cox looked over Stafford last year.....I was on the Joe Cox bandwagon as well although most of my friends hopped on Staffords. But to say he is know good....well if that wasnt true he wouldnt be playing for Georgia in the first place......I take that back our third string QB is horrible.

point being, if cox was a premier sec qb, he would of already had the qb job at uga. it isnt like he was behind a 3 year starter at uga. he was competing against a true freshman who looked like a true freshman till maybe the last 1-2 games of the year(where he looked like a redshirt freshman). didnt stafford have more ints than tds??? not a slam on stafford, b/c he has potential, but that doesnt win games. cam newton has as much potential as anybody, but he hasnt done anything of note to this point.

if he was a GOOD sec qb, it would be his job to lose going into this season.

C_hris
06-07-2007, 09:36 PM
How many interceptions did he throw against GT, Auburn, and VT......anyone care to anwere that?????

blues_cap
06-07-2007, 09:59 PM
How many interceptions did he throw against GT, Auburn, and VT......anyone care to anwere that?????

nope......

Seppeh
06-07-2007, 10:00 PM
How many interceptions did he throw against GT, Auburn, and VT......anyone care to anwere that?????

One................

blues_cap
06-07-2007, 10:16 PM
One................

this isnt the point....we are talking about back-up qbs. if cox were that good, the job would of been his long before the last 3 games. like i said earlier, he wasnt competing with a proven starter, he was competing what a struggling true freshman(nothing against stafford, but he was a true freshman).

if cox is the best back-up qb in the sec, then we, as a conference, have work to do.

blues_cap
06-07-2007, 10:16 PM
One................

this isnt the point....we are talking about back-up qbs. if cox were that good, the job would of been his long before the last 3 games. like i said earlier, he wasnt competing with a proven starter, he was competing what a struggling true freshman(nothing against stafford, but he was a true freshman).

if cox is the best back-up qb in the sec, then we, as a conference, have work to do.

Seppeh
06-07-2007, 10:43 PM
if cox were that good, the job would of been his long before the last 3 games.

Cox is that good. Stafford is better

if cox is the best back-up qb in the sec, then we, as a conference, have work to do.

See above comment.

Sabanocchio
06-08-2007, 04:47 PM
i've watched it a million times on replay and he fumbled after he was down. i even watched it at a bar full of vols who said it go either way. even if he did fumble (which i don't think he did), that punt folly was way more obvious. even my vol friends admit this. Definately more obvious, but if we're talking about the fumble on the final LSU drive, it was a fumble. but to say lsu won due to officiating is way off due to the ONE penalty called on tenn ALL night.Never said that. In fact, I would argue against that statement. if you look at the stats, the only thing that kept UT in the game was JR's multiple INTs (one of which gave ya'll a TD and another saved ya'll from another LSU TD). We both know in the grand scheme of things, stats mean jack, we were in that game in the fourth quarter - that's what counts. let's face it...the only thing stopped LSU's offense was JR (one of his worst and best games). i think ainge would've only duplicated his performance against us the previous year. we will never know. ??? Ramp, come on! What have you been smoking and can I get some? Did you not watch Ainge all year leading up to that game? he was a completely different player from the one that took the field in '05. Poised, perfectly placing balls... I know you had to have seen at least one of his games...but yeah we won't know for sure, but logic would lead you to believe he would've played in a similar manner to the one he had exhibited each previous game. i like to think i'm pretty objective since i dated a vol for 2 years. i've even taken a liking to the color orange.:laugh:I thought so...not so sure now...:joke:

C_hris
06-08-2007, 05:43 PM
this isnt the point....we are talking about back-up qbs. if cox were that good, the job would of been his long before the last 3 games. like i said earlier, he wasnt competing with a proven starter, he was competing what a struggling true freshman(nothing against stafford, but he was a true freshman).

if cox is the best back-up qb in the sec, then we, as a conference, have work to do.


Then why did you bring it up in the first place if you were not trying to make a point out of it.

GoVols1998
06-08-2007, 09:44 PM
Naa, Cox would wipe the floor with Cromption, just ask Colorado!

Lol ok i think theres a HUGE difference in playing Colorado and LSU. I would be insluted if I was an LSU fan by even makin that comparison.:thumbsdow

Seppeh
06-08-2007, 09:50 PM
I don't know.. that big ass buffalo is quite intimidating.