Phil Steeles Top 50

[BAMAPERRY]

Phil Steele's 2007 Preseason Top 50
1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. West Virginia
5. Michigan
6. Texas
7. Louisville
8. Florida State
9. Virginia Tech
10. Penn State
11. Georgia
12. Hawaii
13. South Carolina
14. Florida
15. Ohio State
16. Wisconsin
17. Alabama
18. Oregon
19. Missouri
20. Texas A&M
21. UCLA
22. Nebraska
23. TCU
24. South Florida
25. Tennessee
26. Arizona State
27. Miami
28. California
29. Iowa
30. Rutgers
31. Boise State
32. Memphis
33. Southern Miss
34. BYU
35. Purdue
36. Virginia
37. Arkansas
38. Notre Dame
39. Oregon State
40. Oklahoma State
41. Auburn
42. Georgia Tech
43. Illinois
44. Utah
45. Clemson
46. Houston
47. Toledo
48. Troy
49. NC State
50. Western Michigan

1st Team Offense
QB Brian Brohm, Louisville
RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
RB Steve Slaton, West Virginia
WR Limas Sweed, Texas
WR Adarius Bowman, Oklahoma State
TE John Carlson, Notre Dame
C Adam Spieker, Missouri
OG Will Arnold, LSU
OG Jordan Grimes, Purdue
OT Sam Baker, USC
OT Jake Long Michigan
K Alexis Serna, Oregon State
KR Travis Shelton, Temple

1st Team Defense
DE Calais Campbell, Miami
DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
DT Frank Okam, Texas
DE Lawrence Jackson, USC
OLB Keith Rivers, USC
ILB Dan Connor, Penn State
ILB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
OLB Brian Cushing, USC
CB Aqib Talib, Kansas
CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
SS Tom Zbikowski, Notre Dame
FS Kenny Phillips, Miami
P Durant Brooks, Georgia Tech
PR DeSean Jackson, California

2nd Team Offense
QB John David Booty, USC
RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
RB Ryan Torain, Arizona State
WR DeSean Jackson, California
WR Jarrett Dillard, Rice
TE Chase Coffman, Missouri
C John Sullivan, Notre Dame
OG Herman Johnson, LSU
OG George Robinson, Oklahoma
OT Jared Gaither, Maryland
OT Barry Richardson, Clemson
K Sam Swank, Wake Forest
KR Darrell Blackman, NC State

2nd Team Defense
DE Chris Long, Virginia
DT Sedrick Ellis, USC
DT DeMario Pressley, NC State
DE Derrick Harvey, Florida
OLB Erin Henderson, Maryland
ILB Rey Maualuga, USC
ILB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
OLB Malik Jackson, Louisville
CB Justin King, Penn State
CB Antoine Cason, Arizona
SS Jamar Adams, Michigan
FS Taylor Mays, USC
P Britton Colquitt, Tennessee
PR Rafael Little, Kentucky

3rd Team Offense
QB Colt Brennan, Hawaii
RB Michael Hart, Michigan
RB Jamaal Charles, Texas
WR Mario Manningham, Michigan
WR Mario Urrutia, Louisville
TE Travis Beckum, Wisconsin
C Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas
OG Jeremy Perry, Oregon State
OG Adam Kraus, Michigan
OT Michael Oher, Mississippi
OT Andre Smith, Alabama
K Brandon Coutu, Georgia
KR Jonathan Stewart, Oregon

3rd Team Defense
DE Vernon Golston, Ohio State
DT Ry Miller, Texas
DT Red Bryant, Texas A&M
DE Quentin Groves, Auburn
OLB Ali Highsmith, LSU
ILB Vince Hall, Virginia Tech
ILB Jonathan Goff, Vanderbilt
OLB Sean Lee, Penn State
CB Terrell Thomas, USC
CB Dwight Lowery, San Jose State
SS Myron Rolle, Florida State
FS Nic Harris, Oklahoma
P Geoff Price, Notre Dame
PR Tracy Porter, Indiana


4th Team Offense
QB Pat White, West Virginia
RB Ray Rice, Rutgers
RB James Davis, Clemson
WR Marcus Monk, Arkansas
WR Keenan Burton, Kentucky
TE Martellus Bennett, Texas A&M
C Antoine Caldwell, Alabama
OG Andrew Bain, Miami
OG Chilo Rachal, USC
OT Kirk Barton, Ohio State
OT Alex Boone, Ohio State
K Arthur Carmody, Louisville
KR Marcus Thigpen, Indiana

4th Team Defense
DE Tommy Blake, TCU
DT Paul Griffin, Florida State
DT Fili Moala, USC
DE Bruce Davis, UCLA
OLB Marcus Freeman, Ohio State
ILB Philip Wheeler, Georgia Tech
ILB Xavier Adibi, Virginia Tech
OLB Shawn Crable, Michigan
CB Simeon Castille, Alabama
CB Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech
SS Courtney Greene, Rutgers
FS Dennis Keyes, UCLA
P Kenneth DeBauche, Wisconsin
PR Derrick Williams, Penn State

[BAMAPERRY]

SEC

SEC West
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Arkansas
4. Auburn
5. Mississippi State
6. Mississippi

SEC East
1. Georgia
1. South Carolina
3. Florida
3. Tennessee
5. Vanderbilt
6. Kentucky

1st Team Offense
QB Andre Woodson, Kentucky
RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
RB Felix Jones, Arkansas
WR Marcus Monk, Arkansas
WR Keenan Burton, Kentucky
WR Earl Bennett, Vanderbilt
TE Jacon Tamme, Kentucky
C Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas
OG Herman Johnson, LSU
OG Will Arnold, LSU
OT Andre Smith, Alabama
OT Michael Oher, Mississippi
K Brandon Coutu, Georgia
KR Felix Jones, Arkansas

1st Team Defense
DL Quentin Groves, Auburn
DL Tyson Jackson, LSU
DL Glenn Dorsey, LSU
DL Derrick Harvey, Florida
LB Ali Highsmith, LSU
LB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
LB Jonathan Goff, Vanderbilt
CB Paul Oliver, Georgia
CB Simeon Castille, Alabama
S Derek Pegues, Mississippi State
S Jonathan Hefney, Tennessee
P Britton Colquitt, Tennessee
PR Rafael Little, Kentucky

2nd Team Offense
QB Erik Ainge, Tennessee
RB LaMarcus Coker, Tennessee
RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Mississippi
WR Percy Harvin, Florida
WR D.J. Hall, Alabama
WR Early Doucet, LSU
TE Chris Brown, Tennessee
C Antoine Caldwell, Alabama
OG Jim Tartt, Florida
OG John Jerry, Mississippi
OT Ciron Black, LSU
OT Chris Williams, Vanderbilt
K Ryan Succop, South Carolina
KR Tristan Davis, Auburn

2nd Team Defense
DL Titus Brown, Mississippi State
DL Myron Pryor, Kentucky
DL Theor Horrocks, Vanderbilt
DL Antwain Robinson, Arkansas
LB Wesley Woodyard, Kentucky
LB Jerod Mayo, Tennessee
LB Darry Beckwith, LSU
CB Chevis Jackson, LSU
CB Jonathan Zenon, LSU
S Reshard Langford, Vanderbilt
S Tony Joiner, Florida
P Ryan Succop, South Carolina
PR Mikey Henderson, Georgia

3rd Team Offense
QB Tim Tebow, Florida
RB Keiland Williams, LSU
RB Kregg Lumpkin, Georgia
WR Andre Caldwell, Florida
WR Tony Burks, Mississippi State
WR Kenny McKinley, South Carolina
TE Cornelius Ingram, Florida
C Drew Miller, Florida
OG BJ Stabler, Alabama
OG Robert Felton, Arkansas
OT King Dunlap, Auburn
OT Phil Trautwein, Florida
K Joshua Shene, Mississippi
KR Keenan Burton, Kentucky

3rd Team Defense
DL Curtis Gatewood, Vanderbilt
DL Jeff Owens, Georgia
DL JT Mapu, Tennessee
DL Wallace Gilberry, Alabama
LB Luke Sanders, LSU
LB Weston Dacus, Arkansas
LB Prince Hall, Alabama
CB Matterral Richardson, Arkansas
CB Jonathan Wilhite, Auburn
S Craig Steltz, LSU
S Kelin Johnson, Georgia
P Tim Masthay, Kentucky
PR Derek Pegues, Mississippi State

4th Team Offense
QB Matthew Stafford, Georgia
RB Ben Tate. Auburn
RB Rafael Little, Kentucky
WR Mohammad Massaquoi, Georgia
WR Dicky Lyons Jr, Kentucky
WR Sean Bailey, Georgia
TE Andy Boyd, South Carolina
C Josh McNeil, Tennessee
OG Christian Johnson, Kentucky
OG Justin Britt, Alabama
OT Eric Young, Tennessee
OT Jamon Meredith, South Carolina
K Lones Seiber, Kentucky
KR Marshay Green, Mississippi

4th Team Defense
DL Eric Norwood, South Carolina
DL Marcus Harrison, Arkansas
DL Sen'Derrick Marks, Auburn
DL Xavier Mitchell, Tennessee
LB Brandon Miller, Georgia
LB Freddie Fairchild, Arkansas
LB Casper Brinkley, South Carolina
CB Bryan Evans, Georgia
CB Trevard Lilley, Kentucky
S Marcus McClinton, Kentucky
S Aairon Savage, Auburn
P PJ Fitzgerald, Alabama
PR Jonathan Hefney, Tennessee

[lacene]

USC might crack the top 25 preseason rankings, but 13th is too high, IMO......

[Seppeh]

That guy is a genius. And I hope it all comes true.

[GatorHunter]

Wow...Steele praises himself as having the "#1 prediction mag" but the only time I seem to remember him coming close was 2003 with LSU...

Last year, I think he had my Gators 9th.....:lol:

As usual, he takes the "safe choice" and put USC #1.....this is the 3rd or 4th year in a row he's done that, isn't it?

Anyway, I put little stock in preseason mags...but that top 20 of his deserves comment...Oklahoma 3rd? UF 14th? and really, UT at 25?:lol:

[SavageOrangeJug]

Phil Steele's 2007 Preseason Top 50
1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. West Virginia
5. Michigan
6. Texas
7. Louisville
8. Florida State
9. Virginia Tech
10. Penn State

One SEC school in the Top 10???

We all know that's a joke. At the end of the season. The SEC will have a minimum of three in the Top 10.

[BAMAPERRY]

Actually, he has been the most accurate. Everyone was saying Lindys was a "Bammer" homer magazine and to wait on Steele. Here it is. The SEC will beat up on each other this year. Maybe only 1 or 2 will finish in the Top 10.

[SavageOrangeJug]

Actually, he has been the most accurate. Everyone was saying Lindys was a "Bammer" homer magazine and to wait on Steele. Here it is. The SEC will beat up on each other this year. Maybe only 1 or 2 will finish in the Top 10.
What year didn't the SEC beat each other up? We're used to it.

[Crimson Kicker8]

Florida 14???? :crazy:
Auburn 40?!?!?!??!?!?!? :ohmy:
Bama 17 :thumpsup:

Wow, the Auburn nation is going to have a field day with this one.

[UAdan]

Phil Steele was actually the most accurate last season.

Preseason Prediction Accuracy (2006) (http://preseason.stassen.com/prediction-accuracy/2006.html)

What surprises me the most is AU at 41 (I think they will finish much higher) and Hawaii at 12.

[BAMAPERRY]

Phil Steele was actually the most accurate last season.

Preseason Prediction Accuracy (2006) (http://preseason.stassen.com/prediction-accuracy/2006.html)

What surprises me the most is AU at 41 (I think they will finish much higher) and Hawaii at 12.

He was number one 2001-05 also...

Preseason Prediction Accuracy (2001-2005) (http://preseason.stassen.com/prediction-accuracy/2006-5yr.html)

[shk999]

I like the # 17 ranking for Bama, that puts us at about 10-3, we'll see. Also, I see only 2 things that really stick out to me.

1 Quentin Groves 3rd Team Defense
2 Simeon Castille 4th Team Defense

Both are 1st or at least 2nd team talent.

IMHO (In My Homer Opinion)

[autiger1126]

I feel auburn is vastly underrated this year by the media. Which is fine, but don't be suprised when we pull off upsets against the likes of alabama, georgia, florida, lsu, and south florida.

Also, having southern miss 8 spots ahead of us is a joke.

[UAdan]

I feel auburn is vastly underrated this year by the media. Which is fine, but don't be suprised when we pull off upsets against the likes of alabama, georgia, florida, lsu, and south florida.

Also, having southern miss 8 spots ahead of us is a joke.

This is the first time I've seen anybody rank Auburn this low for the 07 season. Most people I have seen have them in the 10-20 range, finishing 2nd in the West. I also think AU will more than likely be favored in the games against Bama and South Florida.

[Sabanocchio]

I feel auburn is vastly underrated this year by the media. Which is fine, but don't be suprised when we pull off upsets against the likes of alabama, georgia, florida, lsu, and south florida.

Also, having southern miss 8 spots ahead of us is a joke. I wouldn't exactly call beating Alabama an upset, JMO.

[AUFootball24]

Problems I see:

Oklahoma at #3
Florida State at #8
Hawaii at #12
South Carolina at #13 (ahead of Florida??)
Tennessee at #25 (too low for the Vols)
Auburn at #41 behind the likes of Hawaii, Missouri, UCLA, TCU, Arizona State, Miami, Rutgers, Memphis, Southern Miss, BYU, Purdue, Oregon St., and OKlahoma St.
Western Michigan and Troy in the top 50
1 SEC team in the top 10
King Dunlap on the 3rd team offense
Auburn 8th in the SEC, ahead of only Mississippi, Mississippi St., Kentucky, and Vanderbilt

[PuddingTime]

He recognizes the talents of Keenan Burton and Rafael Little, but not Woodson...for shame. He will by season's end.

Anyway, I've never been in a position to really argue that Kentucky deserves a spot amongst the preseason rankings in football....but in a list of 50....we certainly deserve some merit. If it were basketball I'd be irrate, but knowing our past track record at letting games get away...I'll be happy to sit on it and see how things turn out. This is the most excited I've been about a UK football season since a guy from Leslie Co. by the name of Tim Couch signed to play here.

[BAMAPERRY]

west:

Alabama Crimson Tide (9-3, 6-2)
Lsu Tigers (9-3, 6-2)
Arkansas Razorbacks (8-4, 4-4)
Auburn Tigers (8-4, 4-4)
Ole Miss Rebels (6-6, 2-6)
Mississippi State Bulldogs (3-9, 1-7)

east:

Florida Gators (9-3, 5-3)
Georgia Bulldogs (8-4, 5-3)
Tennessee Volunteers (8-4, 5-3)
South Carolina Gamecocks (8-4, 4-4)
Vanderbilt Commodores (7-5, 3-5)
Kentucky Wildcats (6-6, 3-5)

[PuddingTime]

^I think Bamaperry should have to have one of those breathalyzer devices they put in cars so you can start it installed on his computer. Seriously...put the bottle down.

[SeanVol]

west:



east:


Georgia Bulldogs (8-4, 5-3)




I don't think UGA loses 4 games.

[PSUFan1]

I'm glad Steele is accurate because he has PSU at #10! Right on!

[Seppeh]

I wouldn't exactly call beating Alabama an upset, JMO.

Or South Florida.

[BAMAPERRY]

^I think Bamaperry should have to have one of those breathalyzer devices they put in cars so you can start it installed on his computer. Seriously...put the bottle down.

It's gonna be one of those incredible parity years. Whoever has the more favorable Home schedule is at an advantage. Very scientific! :brick: :wacko:

[shk999]

I wouldn't exactly call beating Alabama an upset, JMO.

Watch it chokio, BAMA OWNS YOUR SOUL!!!

:laugh:

[AFWarrior83]

I am supprised that he put Arkansas at what 37? I mean I know there was a lot of drama over the winter, but wow... I think we should be considered in the top 20's.

[Crimson Kicker8]

Chuck Norris did stop McFadden, he stopped him, Walter Peyton, and Barry Sanders on the same play. He held out his hand and said, "stop", and it was so. :laugh:

[PuddingTime]

It's gonna be one of those incredible parity years. Whoever has the more favorable Home schedule is at an advantage. Very scientific!

Kentucky has 8 home games. And you put us last. Then bring out this stuff about science. Which is it Einstein?

[BAMAPERRY]

Kentucky has 8 home games. And you put us last. Then bring out this stuff about science. Which is it Einstein?

It really just didn't shake out for you well this year, sorry.:sad:


KENTUCKY WILDCATS (6-6, 3-5)
Sept. 1 EASTERN KENTUCKY - W
Sept. 8 KENT STATE - W
Sept. 15 LOUISVILLE - T
Sept. 22 *at Arkansas - T
Sept. 29 FLORIDA ATLANTIC - W
Oct. 4 (Thu.) *at South Carolina - T
Oct. 13 *LSU - L
Oct. 20 *FLORIDA - L
Oct. 27 *MISSISSIPPI STATE - W
Nov. 10 *at Vanderbilt - T
Nov. 17 *at Georgia - L
Nov. 24 *TENNESSEE - T

[WDavE]

My recommendation to Bama Perry is to make heavy bets with his bookie and use this magazine as his guide.

Then he could say goodbye to his early retirement.....

[BAMAPERRY]

My recommendation to Bama Perry is to make heavy bets with his bookie and use this magazine as his guide.

Then he could say goodbye to his early retirement.....

Steele is the best in the business, bar none.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

My recommendation to Bama Perry is to make heavy bets with his bookie and use this magazine as his guide.

Then he could say goodbye to his early retirement.....


Septic tank cleaners can retire?

[PuddingTime]

C'mon now....UK is going to beat Vandy...that's a non-issue. You have Tennessee as a toss-up and Georgia, a team we beat last year an can again this year, as a definite loss.

I'm not predicting the world for Kentucky...but Vandy isn't going 7-5. I don't think you guys realize just how much of last year's team is returning. Kentucky is gonna go somewhere between 8-4 and 6-6. I'm expecting 7-5. We can't take a step back and 'round here, tying last years record is a step forward, if it was a winning record.

[BAMAPERRY]

Vandy has 19 starters returning.

[crawfish]

I was feeling good about his prediction of LSU #2 until I saw where he put the rest of the SEC teams. Lost his credibility with me.

The Barn at #41 and Arky at #37 is crazy. Phil must have been distracted when he got to those two teams. Bama at #17; they must of gotten major Saban points----way too high for Bama this early on. I still "think" the SEC has three top ten teams, not one. All the teams below could easily be in the top 25.


Phil Steele's 2007 Preseason Top 50

2. LSU
11. Georgia
13. South Carolina
14. Florida
17. Alabama
25. Tennessee
37. Arkansas
41. Auburn

[GeauxTo]

I wouldn't exactly call beating Alabama an upset, JMO.

Or South Florida.:blink:

[GeauxTo]

I was feeling good about his prediction of LSU #2 until I saw where he put the rest of the SEC teams. Lost his credibility with me.

The Barn at #41 and Arky at #37 is crazy. Phil must have been distracted when he got to those two teams. Bama at #17; they must of gotten major Saban points----way too high for Bama this early on. I still "think" the SEC has three top ten teams, not one. All the teams below could easily be in the top 25.

You're right, I think, about ranking most SEC teams too low.

But, in Phil's rankings, there is a clash of two Top Ten teams in the second game of the year: LSU vs. Virginia Tech (at night, in Death Valley).
:whistle:

[Grady]

Phil Steele's 2007 Preseason Top 50

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. West Virginia
5. Michigan
6. Texas
7. Louisville
8. Florida State
9. Virginia Tech
10. Penn State
11. Georgia
12. Hawaii
13. South Carolina
14. Florida
15. Ohio State
16. Wisconsin
17. Alabama
18. Oregon
19. Missouri
20. Texas A&M
21. UCLA
22. Nebraska
23. TCU
24. South Florida
25. Tennessee


37. Arkansas
38. Notre Dame

40. Oklahoma State

41. Auburn

42. Georgia Tech






Items of note :
(1) Notre Shame is Number 38
(2) Georgia is the 2nd highest ranked SEC team, behind only LSU - presumably then, SEC Championship Game opponents ?
(3) There are exactly 2 ACC teams ranked at all in the Top 25.
(4) There are Six (6) SEC teams in the Top 25.
(5) Auburn is Number what ? I do not believe that Phil Steele (Most accurate of all preseason polls every single year for the last 5 consecutive seasons in a row.) is very impressed with Brandon Cox. Auburn is Number 41 ? Huh ?

This is much like in NCAA Baseball going on right now that The SEC is kicking the ACC's butts - not only head -to-head (SEC is undefeated in Baseball Games against the ACC and removed Top 8 National Seed Florida State yesterday along with SEC beating the ACC both Saturday and Sunday in the quest for the Super Regional Games this up-coming weekend to determine the 8 seeds in the College World Series) but also :

SEC 14-3 Baseball NCAA Regionals
ACC 11-8 Baseball NCAA Regionals

http://www.ncaasports.com/baseball/mens/scoreboard/div1/div1/20070603/30000 (http://www.ncaasports.com/baseball/mens/scoreboard/div1/div1/20070603/30000)

Every year, they tell us how much better the ACC is than The SEC is EVERY sport then, we kick their fannies from pillar to post in that sport too.

Did you have a URL Link to this post ? Or, did you type it from the magazine BAMAPERRY ?

I’m not suggesting that you typed it wrong or nothing BAMAPERRY that Auburn is Number 41, but by refusing to provide the URL Link to what you purport to be a faithful presentation of the most accurate preseason poll every single year, you lose credibility BAMAPERRY.

[BamaFreak]

I feel auburn is vastly underrated this year by the media. Which is fine, but don't be suprised when we pull off upsets against the likes of alabama, georgia, florida, lsu, and south florida.

Also, having southern miss 8 spots ahead of us is a joke.

Point 1: Beating any of these teams would hardly qualify as a major upset.

Point 2: Looking at the teams ranked between 25 and 41, I didn't see but one or two that Auburn couldn't beat the living dipsh*t out of. The others would be close games, but I still think AU would be the better team.

[Grady]

I don't think UGA loses 4 games.




Originally Posted by BAMAPERRY (http://www.sectalk.com/boards/sec-football-talk/17734-phil-steeles-top-50-a-2.html#post231438)
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east:


Georgia Bulldogs (8-4, 5-3)




"I don't think UGA loses 4 games."

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http://thecollegeendzone.com/board/index.php?act=idx (http://thecollegeendzone.com/board/index.php?act=idx)

"I just joined and it's fantastic!!"



You just joined what ? What you have posted 267 posts here, and The College EndZone forum has presently zero (0) members and (2) guests with no posts of substance.

As for Georgia losing 4 games, well we lost 4 last season at 9-4 and we already are well-aware of the fact that you said SeanVol that you see no losses you can predict for UGA this season, but failed to put up your record when pinned down on it by me in subject post of same you fueled yourself the last time you said UGA you can predict no losses for all season.

By the way, 9-4 is the most popular choice for UGA this season, but that hardly leaves UGA the 2nd best team in The SEC this season and certainly will NOT be Number 11, if we do go 9-4 back-to-back after having had our worst season in the last entire Decade last season at 9-4 with losses to Vandie and Kentucky.

You are not a vols’ fan SeanVol, but then again, who is anymore ?

[Grady]

I'm glad Steele is accurate because he has PSU at #10! Right on!

Well, we agree on one thing that we share hated teams in Notre Shame with their soft schedule and no defense who did not deserve a BCS Bowl Game, has lost all their BCS Bowl games in huge blowouts 4 in a row and who has lost every bowl game since 1994.

Penn State ?

PSU ended up ranked worse than UGA last season at Number 24 in the Final AP Poll.

In 2002, Penn State ended up ranked Number 16 again worse than UGA at Number 3.

And, of the 10 consecutive years that UGA has been ranked in the Final AP Polls, Penn State was only twice ranked ahead of Georgia in 1999 when UGA ended up Number 16 and Penn State Number 11 and 2005 when UGA finished in the Top 10 and Penn State finished better ranked than UGA also in the Top 10.

As UGA finished better than Penn State in 1997 and 1998 as well.

So, of the last decade of football with your Joe Papa holding on to outlive Booby Bowden (I loved the Senile Bowl a few years ago.), Penn State only twice (both of those barely) have finished ahead of SEC Georgia Bulldogs, while UGA have been ranked all 10 consecutive years in the Final AP Polls, Penn State has been NOT ranked at all the Decade of the 2000 to present ahead of UGA at all except for 2005 barely and State Penn have not been ranked at all 2004, 2003, 2001, and 2000.

Past AP Polls (http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/past_AP_Polls.htm)

Senile old coot has not made UnHappy Valley, happy. And, then there is you.

Alone.

We note that you do not claim to be a Joe Paterno fan, but a State Penn fan.

Neither Booby Bowden nor Joe Paterno have done a thing since 2000, and in Booby Bowden's case, it coincides directly with the date 20 December 2000 when Coach Mark Richt took this gig here at UGA.

Senile old coots should retire instead of crapping in their pants on the field with men.

[Grady]

C'mon now....UK is going to beat Vandy...that's a non-issue.

You have Tennessee as a toss-up and

Georgia, a team we beat last year an can again this year,

as a definite loss.

I'm not predicting the world for Kentucky...but Vandy isn't going 7-5.

I don't think you guys realize just how much of last year's team is returning.

Kentucky is gonna go somewhere between 8-4 and 6-6. I'm expecting 7-5. We can't take a step back and 'round here, tying last years record is a step forward, if it was a winning record.

What did Kentucky end up ranked last season ?

The answer is not ranked.

Past AP Polls (http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/past_AP_Polls.htm)

Tell us some more about basketball, where Florida has won 2 NC in a row and Kentucky tried to hire Billy Donovan ?



"Georgia, a team we beat last year and can again this year"

BS.

Kentucky had no business beating UGA last season and if our QB brought into the game to waste every possession, turn the ball over and score no touchdowns, had not been in his rookie season, you would not have had the chance you had as time expired. That and the field goal.

Junk.

Kentucky is 11-47-2 vs. UGA and have not beaten us 'Tween The Hedges since 1977, 30 years ago.

Kentucky is a joke and none more so than your posts in this thread quoted for all to recall.

BS.

[Rebel Chuck]

Having Memphis at 32 is just flat out insane!! Half the team is walk ons!!! I don't care how accurate this guy has been in the past. That's nuts

[Grady]

I feel auburn is vastly underrated this year by the media.

Which is fine, but don't be suprised when we pull off upsets against the likes of alabama, georgia, florida, lsu, and south florida.

Also, having southern miss 8 spots ahead of us is a joke.

Actually, Auburn is NOT vastly underrated by the media :

(1) Auburn is ranked Number 14 by Rivals (UGA # 12).

2007 NCAA Division I FBS football rankings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_rankings#Preseas on_polls)

(2) Auburn is Number 14 in College Football News (UGA # 12).

(3) Auburn is Number 11 in CBS Sportsline.com (UGA # 20).

(4) ESPN has Auburn # 20 (UGA # 16).

(5) Sports Illustrated has Auburn # 16 (UGA # 19.)

(6) National Champs.Net also has Auburn # 16 (UGA # 23).

(7) Athlon has Auburn # 21 (UGA # 16).

(8) Lindy's has Auburn # 23 (UGA # 17).

2007 NCAA Division I FBS football rankings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_rankings#Preseas on_polls)

So, of the 8 polls shown in Wikipedia AVERAGE PRESEASON POLLS Auburn is ranked in EVERY Poll shown there today.



"I feel auburn is vastly underrated this year by the media."



So, that is absolutely NOT TRUE now is it ?

Maybe what this forum needs is more URL Links ?

[Grady]

I found a URL Link for the stolen property of Phil Steele by this thread's author, who provided no URL Link to his post :

phil steele predictions: top 50 & sec picks (ps - he likes the gamecocks) - CockyTalk (http://www.cockytalk.com/showthread.php?s&threadid=38429)

This poster, on this same forum software, also provided no URL Link.

Apparently, Phil Steele wants two hundred dollars for this information stolen to make this thread and the thread on CockyTalk a South Carolina Fans' discussion group that only has posts by just only Cock fans.

By the way, if Falcons' QB Michael Vick lost his job to Air Tran as their spokesman and dog fighting is illegal except for a certain Washington Redskin player supporting Vick, what the hell is the difference with THAT and Gamecocks being put up on a Pedestal as even the team's mascot and name for the South Carolina Gamecocks ?

Obviously, the fallout should be that (1) Vick is suspended for a long long long time moving DJ Shockley up the Depth Chart to # 2 and (2) South Carolina must be forced to get rid of that animal rights nickname they glorify with hens fighting each other.

[BAMAPERRY]

Dude, there's no link because it came out of his magazine. As I recall the magazine cost $8.95, not $200.

[Grady]

Dude, there's no link because it came out of his magazine. As I recall the magazine cost $8.95, not $200.


You are a liar that you posted this thread by typing it from his magazine as you state BAMAPERRY.

Dude, there's no link because it came out of his magazine. As I recall the magazine cost $8.95, not $200.

That is a BOLD-FACED lie.

(1) He wants two hundred dollars for two years to online version of his full-service site.

(2) BAMAPERRY, you did not type this from the magazine as you said you did.

(3) You seem to have taken it from South Carolina Gamecocks' site quoted by me.

(4) You have compounded your lies by stating that "it came out of his magazine."

BS.

Here is the URL Link to his site not yet included in the Average Preseason Rankings, where Auburn fans say they are not ranked - which is also BS.

Welcome To Northcoast Sports (http://www.ncsports.com/)

[BAMAPERRY]

You'll need to buy the magazine and see for yourself. No more freebies for you! :)

[Grady]

BS. Just provide the URL Links to information you claim to have created yourself, which had you done so - you would have stated that it has cost $8.95 each year and that you are quoting the price from the magazine on your desk as you speak - which you did NOT state.

Just that you typed it from his magazine.

Liar.

[The Ramp]

i'll have what bamaperry is having...make it a double

[OldManNoPants]

Actually, he has been the most accurate. Everyone was saying Lindys was a "Bammer" homer magazine and to wait on Steele. Here it is. The SEC will beat up on each other this year. Maybe only 1 or 2 will finish in the Top 10.

Oh give it up Perry, the only reason you're suckling Steele's balls is because he picked Alabama so high and Auburn so low.

Auburn at #41 in the nation? What a douche bag.

[SWINETIME]

Phil Steele's 2007 Preseason Top 50
1. USC
2. LSU
3. Oklahoma
4. West Virginia
5. Michigan
6. Texas
7. Louisville
8. Florida State
9. Virginia Tech
10. Penn State
11. Georgia
12. Hawaii
13. South Carolina
14. Florida
15. Ohio State
16. Wisconsin
17. Alabama
18. Oregon
19. Missouri
20. Texas A&M
21. UCLA
22. Nebraska
23. TCU
24. South Florida
25. Tennessee
26. Arizona State
27. Miami
28. California
29. Iowa
30. Rutgers
31. Boise State
32. Memphis
33. Southern Miss
34. BYU
35. Purdue
36. Virginia
37. Arkansas
38. Notre Dame
39. Oregon State
40. Oklahoma State
41. Auburn
42. Georgia Tech
43. Illinois
44. Utah
45. Clemson
46. Houston
47. Toledo
48. Troy
49. NC State
50. Western Michigan

1st Team Offense
QB Brian Brohm, Louisville
RB Darren McFadden, Arkansas
RB Steve Slaton, West Virginia
WR Limas Sweed, Texas
WR Adarius Bowman, Oklahoma State
TE John Carlson, Notre Dame
C Adam Spieker, Missouri
OG Will Arnold, LSU
OG Jordan Grimes, Purdue
OT Sam Baker, USC
OT Jake Long Michigan
K Alexis Serna, Oregon State
KR Travis Shelton, Temple

1st Team Defense
DE Calais Campbell, Miami
DT Glenn Dorsey, LSU
DT Frank Okam, Texas
DE Lawrence Jackson, USC
OLB Keith Rivers, USC
ILB Dan Connor, Penn State
ILB James Laurinaitis, Ohio State
OLB Brian Cushing, USC
CB Aqib Talib, Kansas
CB Malcolm Jenkins, Ohio State
SS Tom Zbikowski, Notre Dame
FS Kenny Phillips, Miami
P Durant Brooks, Georgia Tech
PR DeSean Jackson, California

2nd Team Offense
QB John David Booty, USC
RB Jonathan Stewart, Oregon
RB Ryan Torain, Arizona State
WR DeSean Jackson, California
WR Jarrett Dillard, Rice
TE Chase Coffman, Missouri
C John Sullivan, Notre Dame
OG Herman Johnson, LSU
OG George Robinson, Oklahoma
OT Jared Gaither, Maryland
OT Barry Richardson, Clemson
K Sam Swank, Wake Forest
KR Darrell Blackman, NC State

2nd Team Defense
DE Chris Long, Virginia
DT Sedrick Ellis, USC
DT DeMario Pressley, NC State
DE Derrick Harvey, Florida
OLB Erin Henderson, Maryland
ILB Rey Maualuga, USC
ILB Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
OLB Malik Jackson, Louisville
CB Justin King, Penn State
CB Antoine Cason, Arizona
SS Jamar Adams, Michigan
FS Taylor Mays, USC
P Britton Colquitt, Tennessee
PR Rafael Little, Kentucky

3rd Team Offense
QB Colt Brennan, Hawaii
RB Michael Hart, Michigan
RB Jamaal Charles, Texas
WR Mario Manningham, Michigan
WR Mario Urrutia, Louisville
TE Travis Beckum, Wisconsin
C Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas
OG Jeremy Perry, Oregon State
OG Adam Kraus, Michigan
OT Michael Oher, Mississippi
OT Andre Smith, Alabama
K Brandon Coutu, Georgia
KR Jonathan Stewart, Oregon

3rd Team Defense
DE Vernon Golston, Ohio State
DT Ry Miller, Texas
DT Red Bryant, Texas A&M
DE Quentin Groves, Auburn
OLB Ali Highsmith, LSU
ILB Vince Hall, Virginia Tech
ILB Jonathan Goff, Vanderbilt
OLB Sean Lee, Penn State
CB Terrell Thomas, USC
CB Dwight Lowery, San Jose State
SS Myron Rolle, Florida State
FS Nic Harris, Oklahoma
P Geoff Price, Notre Dame
PR Tracy Porter, Indiana


4th Team Offense
QB Pat White, West Virginia
RB Ray Rice, Rutgers
RB James Davis, Clemson
WR Marcus Monk, Arkansas
WR Keenan Burton, Kentucky
TE Martellus Bennett, Texas A&M
C Antoine Caldwell, Alabama
OG Andrew Bain, Miami
OG Chilo Rachal, USC
OT Kirk Barton, Ohio State
OT Alex Boone, Ohio State
K Arthur Carmody, Louisville
KR Marcus Thigpen, Indiana

4th Team Defense
DE Tommy Blake, TCU
DT Paul Griffin, Florida State
DT Fili Moala, USC
DE Bruce Davis, UCLA
OLB Marcus Freeman, Ohio State
ILB Philip Wheeler, Georgia Tech
ILB Xavier Adibi, Virginia Tech
OLB Shawn Crable, Michigan
CB Simeon Castille, Alabama
CB Brandon Flowers, Virginia Tech
SS Courtney Greene, Rutgers
FS Dennis Keyes, UCLA
P Kenneth DeBauche, Wisconsin
PR Derrick Williams, Penn StateThe fact that he has Arkansas ranked 37th and behind Bama is just silly. Obviously he has not done his homework.

[Seppeh]

Auburn at #41 in the nation? What a douche bag.

No one said he was 100% accurate every single year.

[BAMAPERRY]

Steele does his homework better than anyone in the nation. I might add he picked UGA to win the East in 05, picked the Hogs to have a big year last year, picked Bama to have a big year in 05 and fall off last year. He studies all the teams without bias. Although, I think he's underestimating the Tide and overestimating Miles.

[SWINETIME]

Steele does his homework better than anyone in the nation. I might add he picked UGA to win the East in 05, picked the Hogs to have a big year last year, picked Bama to have a big year in 05 and fall off last year. He studies all the teams without bias. Although, I think he's underestimating the Tide and overestimating Miles. LOL, how can he NOT be underestimating the Hogs with what they have returning. He is a fool. His is the only preseason poll that I have seen where the hogs were left out of the top 20.

[The Ramp]

Although, I think he's underestimating the Tide and overestimating Miles.

surprise...surprise.... from finebaum junior:laugh:

[BAMAPERRY]

LOL, how can he NOT be underestimating the Hogs with what they have returning. He is a fool. His is the only preseason poll that I have seen where the hogs were left out of the top 20.

A lot of people think the Hogs will fall off big time this year. If it weren't for their weak OOC schedule, they might not make it to a Bowl this year.

[SWINETIME]

A lot of people think the Hogs will fall off big time this year. If it weren't for their weak OOC schedule, they might not make it to a Bowl this year.
Maybe a lot of people in Bama.
got this post from the ESPN message boards thought it ws interesting.

Top 119 poll averaging over 15 current preseason polls.

11 go to 25
1 goes to 30
3 go to 119

Split into posts to ease reading.

Enjoy.

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Michigan
4. West Virginia
5. Texas
6. Florida
7. Wisconsin
8. Oklahoma
9. Virginia Tech
10. Ohio State
11. Louisville
12. Arkansas
13. Tennessee
14. Cal
15. Auburn
16. Nebraska
17. UCLA
18. UGA
19. Rutgers
20. Penn State
21. TCU
22. Texas A&M
23. Florida State
24. Boston College
25. Hawaii

[BAMAPERRY]

I see the Hogs going 8-4, 4-4. 2008 is looking rough for you guys.

[The Ramp]

I see the Hogs going 8-4, 4-4. 2008 is looking rough for you guys.

BP said it so it must be true:laugh:

[CRIMSONWHITE]

Oh give it up Perry, the only reason you're suckling Steele's balls is because he picked Alabama so high and Auburn so low.

Auburn at #41 in the nation? What a douche bag.


Good grief Barner with no pants, Steele has been the most accurate for several years. Deal with it. Just because he has your beloved barn at #41 you don't want it discussed? :laugh:

[SWINETIME]

I see the Hogs going 8-4, 4-4. 2008 is looking rough for you guys.
Our depth is better than it has been since Nutt took over and is only going to get better now that the springdale 3 are in the rear view mirror.

[BAMAPERRY]

The difference between Arky being 10-4 and 5-7 last year was McFadden, Jones, Monk and Hillis. They'll be gone next year and you lost to much line strength to be a contender this year. Not to mention the offseason scandals. I don't care what the coaches and players say, those things effect teams.

[SWINETIME]

The difference between Arky being 10-4 and 5-7 last year was McFadden, Jones, Monk and Hillis. They'll be gone next year and you lost to much line strength to be a contender this year. Not to mention the offseason scandals. I don't care what the coaches and players say, those things effect teams.
Whats your point? You got to have players to play the game. Arkansas's redshirt sophmore TB Micheal Smith averages about 7 per carry and Arkansas has never had a problem getting great tailbacks. The receiving corp that is sophmore's this year is considered by everyone to be the best group in Nutt's tenure but they are unproven right now but will gain experience this year. Those are all great players you mentioned but hell every good team has got good players. Our D coordinatoor say's that M. Sheppard is better right now that J. Anderson was so I think UA is in great shape.

[Neyland's Ghost]

Do they pay this guy?

[Neyland's Ghost]

It seems like he just puts teams and names in a lottery machine and draws them out. He is about as credible as Nick Saban is truthful.

[CRIMSONWHITE]

It seems like he just puts teams and names in a lottery machine and draws them out. He is about as credible as Nick Saban is truthful.


You mean like Phatmer and Wingnut are truthful? :laugh:

[Neyland's Ghost]

You mean like Phatmer and Wingnut are truthful? :laugh:

I would say so. It was proven in a court of law.

[C_hris]

west:

Alabama Crimson Tide (9-3, 6-2)
Lsu Tigers (9-3, 6-2)
Arkansas Razorbacks (8-4, 4-4)
Auburn Tigers (8-4, 4-4)
Ole Miss Rebels (6-6, 2-6)
Mississippi State Bulldogs (3-9, 1-7)

east:

Florida Gators (9-3, 5-3)
Georgia Bulldogs (8-4, 5-3)
Tennessee Volunteers (8-4, 5-3)
South Carolina Gamecocks (8-4, 4-4)
Vanderbilt Commodores (7-5, 3-5)
Kentucky Wildcats (6-6, 3-5)



You rank Georgia at 8-4 with five wins in confrence the same for flordia. but who do you think is going to beat Georgia thats not in this Confrence. The only team that could come close is O.S. but they come to Athens. And Georgia Tech if your going by these rankings is not going to give us any more trouble then they usally do. Georgia wins the East and again Georgia and LSU meet at the dome. I only hope LSU plays like they did last time we met up

[The Ramp]

I only hope LSU plays like they did last time we met up


we stunk it up that day:angry:

[Seppeh]

I didn't mind Ramp, :)

[C_hris]

we stunk it up that day:angry:

Yeah every time we meet up the game is usally lopsided. The time before last you guys killed us in the championship game.

[The Ramp]

I didn't mind Ramp, :)

it was a long long day when cory webster was getting lit up by dj shockley

[C_hris]

Man this guy Grady really likes to clutter up the boards haha.

[C_hris]

it was a long long day when cory webster was getting lit up by dj shockley

I cant wait to see Stafford lite you guys up next

[The Ramp]

I cant wait to see Stafford lite you guys up next

what was stafford's int:TD ratio last year?:ohmy: if we played ya'll next year i would say prolly so since we'll start two new corners next season. but hopefully, they'll be seasoned in two years

btw-i can't wait to go to athens and steal all the pretty girls again
:laugh:

[C_hris]

What was his interception rate last year against Auburn, Georgia Tech, and #1 defense in the Country who only let an opponent score a total of 10 points a game.(that number might be off just slightly)......the answere is 1 Now im not one who is going to say all those other interceptions were because he was learning but between that, and our Quarterback tango we were doing would you expect any more. As soon as Stafford had been announced he would be our Starter then go check the stats.

[C_hris]

what was stafford's int:TD ratio last year?:ohmy: if we played ya'll next year i would say prolly so since we'll start two new corners next season. but hopefully, they'll be seasoned in two years

btw-i can't wait to go to athens and steal all the pretty girls again
:laugh:

Its so true

[The Ramp]

What was his interception rate last year against Auburn, Georgia Tech, and #1 defense in the Country who only let an opponent score a total of 10 points a game.(that number might be off just slightly)......the answere is 1 Now im not one who is going to say all those other interceptions were because he was learning but between that, and our Quarterback tango we were doing would you expect any more. As soon as Stafford had been announced he would be our Starter then go check the stats.

there's some selective stats at it's finest:laugh:

[Seppeh]

there's some selective stats at it's finest:laugh:

No one is saying he was the best QB in the country last year. But (Yes selective stats) if you look at his last 3 games against good teams, he showed a lot of promise.

[The Ramp]

No one is saying he was the best QB in the country last year. But (Yes selective stats) if you look at his last 3 games against good teams, he showed a lot of promise.


i know...i was just messing with ya

[GTTiger]

GT will own UGA this year though. Just thought you might like to know.

[Seppeh]

GT will own UGA this year though. Just thought you might like to know.

Yeah ok....

:thumbsdow You phail'ed

[GTTiger]

Yeah ok....

:thumbsdow You phail'ed

No more Reggie Ball to give UGA free wins. You might actually have to score some points to beat GT again.

[Seppeh]

The last time Reggie Ball didn't play for GT, 2002, we beat them 51-7. Yep I'm really worried about him not being there anymore. If anything, its a plus Ball is gone, I don't think we scored 20 or more against them during his four year tenure.

[GTTiger]

The last time Reggie Ball didn't play for GT, 2002, we beat them 51-7. Yep I'm really worried about him not being there anymore.

GT's defense is a bit better and UGA's offense is quite a bit worse than they were in 2002. The streak ends this year =P

[Seppeh]

Your funny...

Don't leave this site until at least the UGA/GT game, so I can laugh at you.

[GTTiger]

Your funny...

Don't leave this site until at least the UGA/GT game, so I can laugh at you.

We will see won't we? I'm still in shock that we managed to lose to UGA the last 3 years, but Reggie never fails to find a way to lose to UGA.

This year GT will be more comparable to UGA in talent than they have been in a while. Just gotta wait till Thanksgiving to see if they pull it off or choke again.

[Seppeh]

Are you a closet Tech fan?

[GTTiger]

Are you a closet Tech fan?

Nah. I'm pretty open about being a tech fan.

[Sabanocchio]

Nah. I'm pretty open about being a tech fan.
It does plainly state it in his username. BTW, I'm a closet Saban-hater.:smile:

[Seppeh]

It does plainly state it in his username. BTW, I'm a closet Saban-hater.:smile:

Eh, you pay more attention than me. LSU avy.. Tiger in his name. Thought that was what it was for.

Oh well, he can cheer for that loser school. I don't care.

[BamaFreak]

I would say so. It was proven in a court of law.

Ah, so OJ really was innocent. Thanks for clearing that up. :dry:

[The Ramp]

Eh, you pay more attention than me. LSU avy.. Tiger in his name. Thought that was what it was for.

Oh well, he can cheer for that loser school. I don't care.
i've always like GT too but i really don't have a reason why
i should hate them since they laughed at my GRE scores:laugh:
but i don't think they have a prayer vs uga this season

[GTTiger]

i've always like GT too but i really don't have a reason why
i should hate them since they laughed at my GRE scores:laugh:
but i don't think they have a prayer vs uga this season

I was raised an LSU fan, but went to GT. So, now I'm a GT fan also.

GT always has a prayer vs. UGA. GT should be a very solid team this year and should have a great chance to win the ACC.

[Seppeh]

No one has a great chance to win the ACC with Va Tech there.

[GTTiger]

No one has a great chance to win the ACC with Va Tech there.

GT's defense is about as good as VT's and GT gets VT at home. Also, GT has a much easier ACC schedule this season. GT also returns a solid O-Line and the 2 time leading ACC rusher. VT will be the favorite, but LSU is the favorite in the SEC and I don't think anyone is writing off thier opponents.

[SavageOrangeJug]

Ah, so OJ really was innocent. Thanks for clearing that up. :dry:

....and to think....I pointed out the other day that some Bammers still claim, "we were innocent".


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[BamaFreak]

....and to think....I pointed out the other day that some Bammers still claim, "we were innocent".


The biggest difference I can think of is that UT fixes their problems by destoying lives (Linda Bensel Meyers, Tom Culpepper, Ronnie Cottrel, Logan Young, etc) when it serves their own ends. (UT boosters in the Memphis area aren't called "The Memphis Mafia" for no reason.) We had Gene Marsh running the show with our tiff with the NCAA and he threw us under a bus. Everyone in Tuscaloosa knows it, but no one has threatened to kill him. LBM should be so lucky. You clowns don't know how lucky you are to have a state media that pretty much covers your asses as well as they can and WE have a state media that beats a path to be first in line to crucify us (and Auburn, too.) Tee Martin was caught. There was an indisputable paper trail tying him to a UT booster. The NCAA says that she isn't a booster, and therefore, the money she gave Tee was legit. Everybody knows this is complete bullsh*t, but they got away with it. Have you ever stopped and wondered why UT is called "Teflon Tennessee?" I have never claimed our hands are sparkling clean. Whose is? Fulmer? Roy Adams? Please. But no one has ever provided the "smoking gun" in the Logan Young trial, who, by the way, would have gotten his appeal if he hadn't found a way to trip on some stairs and wound up with wounds on his face that made him practically unrecognizable. There is a hell of a lot more to all of this and everybody knows it. Just because I remain skeptical of what we were told to believe without a shred of tangible evidence, however, doesn't mean I claim innocence of everything.