College Football News: Florida Preview

[BAMAPERRY]

Scout.com: 2007 Florida Preview (http://cfn.scout.com/2/646775.html)

[Sabanocchio]

Enjoy the ride now, Florida. Meyer will soon be handed the keys to a bank vault by some NFL team looking for an instant infusion of magic...
What is everyone's opinion on this? Does he bolt if given an opportunity?

[BAMAPERRY]

No. IMO, he hasn't proven himself yet. He lost a LOT of Seniors that Zook recruited. His Offense hasn't proven itself, they won with Defense last year and lost 9 starters. Plus, I think Billy Donovan tutored the team! :laugh: He could turn out to be another Larry Coker, like someone else we know........

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[Sabanocchio]

No. IMO, he hasn't proven himself yet. He lost a LOT of Seniors that Zook recruited. His Offense hasn't proven itself, they won with Defense last year and lost 9 starters. Plus, I think Billy Donovan tutored the team! :laugh: He could turn out to be another Larry Coker, like someone else we know........
Why, when you actually have something halfway decent to share, do you foul it up by posting a picture meant to incite LSU fans?

[BAMAPERRY]

Why, when you actually have something halfway decent to share, do you foul it up by posting a picture meant to incite LSU fans?

beats me! :laugh:

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[Sabanocchio]

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[GatorHunter]

Scout is pretty much "spot on" as far as I see it...great post.

As far as Meyer leaving for the NFL...it'll never happen. Unlike Donovan or Spurrier, Meyer has stated several times that he will never coach in the NFL...he loves CFB...loves to recruit, the pageantry of CFB. Look at his coaching style...nothing like an NFL coach....and the NFL isn't looking for spread-option coaches. The only way I ever see Meyer leaving Gainesville is if he's fired...and I don't see that happening.

[Sabanocchio]

Scout is pretty much "spot on" as far as I see it...great post.

As far as Meyer leaving for the NFL...it'll never happen. Unlike Donovan or Spurrier, Meyer has stated several times that he will never coach in the NFL...he loves CFB...loves to recruit, the pageantry of CFB. Look at his coaching style...nothing like an NFL coach....and the NFL isn't looking for spread-option coaches. The only way I ever see Meyer leaving Gainesville is if he's fired...and I don't see that happening.

Personally, I hope you're right. I loved the old Steve Spurrier rivalry we had and look forward to the same kind of rivalry with Meyer.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

Scout is pretty much "spot on" as far as I see it...great post.

As far as Meyer leaving for the NFL...it'll never happen. Unlike Donovan or Spurrier, Meyer has stated several times that he will never coach in the NFL...he loves CFB...loves to recruit, the pageantry of CFB. Look at his coaching style...nothing like an NFL coach....and the NFL isn't looking for spread-option coaches. The only way I ever see Meyer leaving Gainesville is if he's fired...and I don't see that happening.

I think Donovan may have said the same thing. $$ tends to make a person's ideals waver a bit. As far a coaching style, I'm not sure I agree with you. Remember, Meyer had great years at Bowling Green, Utah, and Florida each in only his second year of coaching. That makes recruiting almost irrelevant. That means he is an outstanding (*cringe*) coach who knows how to utilize talent to its potential. He is also a fresh-minded play caller. This all sounds Sean Peyton-esque to me.

[Sabanocchio]

I think Donovan may have said the same thing. $$ tends to make a person's ideals waver a bit. As far a coaching style, I'm not sure I agree with you. Remember, Meyer had great years at Bowling Green, Utah, and Florida each in only his second year of coaching. That makes recruiting almost irrelevant. That means he is an outstanding (*cringe*) coach who knows how to utilize talent to its potential. He is also a fresh-minded play caller. This all sounds Sean Peyton-esque to me.
What's up, DME? I think Meyer has the right skill sets to make it in the NFL eventually and like you said, money talks. Sean Payton is a helluva good coach. You guys are lucky to have him.

[BAMAPERRY]

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[Sabanocchio]

Your posts are repugnant.

[GeauxTo]

Why, when you actually have something halfway decent to share, do you foul it up by posting a picture meant to incite LSU fans?

Because BamaCherry is a solid rockin' azzhole needing a session with a Cajun attitude adjuster.:laugh:

[Sabanocchio]

Because BamaCherry is a solid rockin' azzhole needing a session with a Cajun attitude adjuster.:laugh:Take lessons Cherry. That's how you inject humor into the board! +Rep FWIW

[blues_cap]

Scout is pretty much "spot on" as far as I see it...great post.

As far as Meyer leaving for the NFL...it'll never happen. Unlike Donovan or Spurrier, Meyer has stated several times that he will never coach in the NFL...he loves CFB...loves to recruit, the pageantry of CFB. Look at his coaching style...nothing like an NFL coach....and the NFL isn't looking for spread-option coaches. The only way I ever see Meyer leaving Gainesville is if he's fired...and I don't see that happening.

the only part i was wondering about was them saying uf has ?? marks along the line on both sides of the ball. returning 4 o-linemen wouldnt be considered a ?, imo. i know there was some trouble snapping the ball in the spring...is this what they are referring to??? otherwise, one of the better previews i've read thus far.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

What's up, DME? I think Meyer has the right skill sets to make it in the NFL eventually and like you said, money talks. Sean Payton is a helluva good coach. You guys are lucky to have him.

Nothing much, buddy. Yeah, all that I had mentioned plus his (Meyer's) track record of quickly going from team to team makes me think that he'll be in the NFL before too long. And unlike you said, I'll be glad to see him go; that is, unless he can't develop players--which he hasn't really proven, considering he's only been coach at any team for only two years. We'll see this year if he's any good at that, I think. My guess is that he is. I like your spirit in wanting a rivalry game, but considering what he did this year coupled with his two mega-recruiting classes, I'd say that you all are going to have a rivalry the way Bama and Auburn has a rivalry right now. And Tennessee will take the Bama role (losing--a lot).

[Sabanocchio]

Nothing much, buddy. Yeah, all that I had mentioned plus his (Meyer's) track record of quickly going from team to team makes me think that he'll be in the NFL before too long. And unlike you said, I'll be glad to see him go; that is, unless he can't develop players--which he hasn't really proven, considering he's only been coach at any team for only two years. We'll see this year if he's any good at that, I think. My guess is that he is. I like your spirit in wanting a rivalry game, but considering what he did this year coupled with his two mega-recruiting classes, I'd say that you all are going to have a rivalry the way Bama and Auburn has a rivalry right now. And Tennessee will take the Bama role (losing--a lot). We shall see. Our record isn't stellar as it stands, but we've won our fair share and some important games. With the talent we're recruiting we should be able to match up well. It's always a close game.

[GeauxTo]

I'm not sold on DisturbinUrban or his fancy offense yet. Here's what could happen to him this year (LOSSES IN BOLD):

Sept. 1Western Kentucky
Sept. 8Troy
Sept. 15Tennessee
Sept. 22at Ole Miss
Sept. 29Auburn
Oct. 6at LSU
Oct. 20at Kentucky
Oct. 27vs. Georgia
Nov. 3Vanderbilt
Nov. 10at South Carolina
Nov. 17Florida Atlantic
Nov. 24Florida State

[Seppeh]

A 6 loss Gator team.

The Florida crowd would never hear the end of it from me.

[GeauxTo]

A 6 loss Gator team.

The Florida crowd would never hear the end of it from me.

Shades of the Zookster!
:D

[Sabanocchio]

I'm not sold on DisturbinUrban or his fancy offense yet. Here's what could happen to him this year (LOSSES IN BOLD):

Sept. 1Western Kentucky
Sept. 8Troy
Sept. 15Tennessee
Sept. 22at Ole Miss
Sept. 29Auburn
Oct. 6at LSU
Oct. 20at Kentucky
Oct. 27vs. Georgia
Nov. 3Vanderbilt
Nov. 10at South Carolina
Nov. 17Florida Atlantic
Nov. 24Florida State
That would be awesome, IMO. But I think they beat UGA and FSU, probably USC too. Could lose that Vandy game....they always play them tough...probably don't since it's in the Swamp.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

We shall see. Our record isn't stellar as it stands, but we've won our fair share and some important games. With the talent we're recruiting we should be able to match up well. It's always a close game.

Well, I'll definitely be rooting for you guys this year--especially since the game will be in the swamp. I'd like to see the gators lose one there and dispel that myth that Meyer can't be beat in Gainesville.

[GatorHunter]

the only part i was wondering about was them saying uf has ?? marks along the line on both sides of the ball. returning 4 o-linemen wouldnt be considered a ?, imo. i know there was some trouble snapping the ball in the spring...is this what they are referring to??? otherwise, one of the better previews i've read thus far.

Agreed...UF and LSU are about the only 2 SEC schools that return most of the OL...UF with 4, LSU with 3.

The only ? will have is on the DL.....frankly, I'm not worried about the DL...it's the secondary that has me a little squeamish.

[GatorHunter]

I think Donovan may have said the same thing. $$ tends to make a person's ideals waver a bit. As far a coaching style, I'm not sure I agree with you. Remember, Meyer had great years at Bowling Green, Utah, and Florida each in only his second year of coaching. That makes recruiting almost irrelevant. That means he is an outstanding (*cringe*) coach who knows how to utilize talent to its potential. He is also a fresh-minded play caller. This all sounds Sean Peyton-esque to me.

Nope...Donovan has said many times that he was interested in the NBA and if the right situation were to present itself, he'd be inclined to consider it. Spurrier always said basically the same thing.....he worded it more along the lines of "I'll never say never" when asked if he'd coach in the NFL. Meyer on the other hand has stated many times that he will never consider coaching in the NFL.

Look at the teams Meyer has coached....BG, Utah...now Florida. Not being conceded, but what better job is there in America? He's made an advancement every 2 years...now, he's coaching one of the top teams in CFB...no one else can pay him more money...at the collegiate level, anyway. One of the stories told by the Meyer family at Gator Club Meeting concerned his kids before moving to Florida.....they really loved Utah and asked Urban why they were moving to Gainesville.....he told them that in life, you have to take steps...like climbing a mountain. His daughter interjected and said, "so where's Gainesville on the mountain?" Meyer said..."at the top."

[Dickle Me Elmo]

Look at the teams Meyer has coached....BG, Utah...now Florida. Not being conceded, but what better job is there in America?

The same thing could have been said for Saban and LSU. With a rich recruiting ground that's pretty much unchallenged in the state, Saban had it very, very good. While Meyer is no Saban (so far), regarding interest in the NFL, it is amazing what can happen if you flash enough green at someone.

[GatorHunter]

The same thing could have been said for Saban and LSU. With a rich recruiting ground that's pretty much unchallenged in the state, Saban had it very, very good. While Meyer is no Saban (so far), regarding interest in the NFL, it is amazing what can happen if you flash enough green at someone.

True about the money issue...but the examples you're giving (Saban) had interest in the NFL...Meyer doesn't. And you can bet now that UF doesn't have to pay Donovan $3.5 million a year.....Meyer will be in the "Saban Range" of salaries soon.

[blues_cap]

Agreed...UF and LSU are about the only 2 SEC schools that return most of the OL...UF with 4, LSU with 3.

The only ? will have is on the DL.....frankly, I'm not worried about the DL...it's the secondary that has me a little squeamish.

im a little worried about being undersized up the middle. spikes will be fine, but the tackles worry me a bit(hopefully torrey davis will eat up some pt). like i've said before, if you arent strong up the middle in the sec, you arent going to have much success stopping people considering the amount of teams that love to run the ball.

we will know a bunch about our d-line after tennessee leaves gainesville in the 3rd week of the season.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

True about the money issue...but the examples you're giving (Saban) had interest in the NFL...Meyer doesn't. And you can bet now that UF doesn't have to pay Donovan $3.5 million a year.....Meyer will be in the "Saban Range" of salaries soon.

I hope not. Not out of any spite in UF or anything, but I would hate to see the SEC and NCAA football in general end up like soccer teams of Europe, where the most lucrative teams get the best players (in this case keep the best coaches). This would put a greater noose on the lower-tier programs and prevent them from consistantly competeing. Here's a good quote from Vanderbilt Chancellor Gordon Lee: “I’m the highest-paid university president in the country, and if I was a football coach in the SEC I’d be the lowest paid. There’s something out of whack there. It’s an arms race, and we’ve got to do something to cap these expenditures.”

[GatorHunter]

I hope not. Not out of any spite in UF or anything, but I would hate to see the SEC and NCAA football in general end up like soccer teams of Europe, where the most lucrative teams get the best players (in this case keep the best coaches). This would put a greater noose on the lower-tier programs and prevent them from consistantly competeing. Here's a good quote from Vanderbilt Chancellor Gordon Lee: “I’m the highest-paid university president in the country, and if I was a football coach in the SEC I’d be the lowest paid. There’s something out of whack there. It’s an arms race, and we’ve got to do something to cap these expenditures.”

Can't say that I don't agree with you...but this is the "sports world" we live in.

And unlike Saban at Bama, Meyer at Florida has proven he can win the biggest prize...he deserves to be compensated...and I for one, as a "small" contributor am happy that it goes to pay his salary.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

And unlike Saban at Bama, Meyer at Florida has proven he can win the biggest prize...he deserves to be compensated.

Very true. :thumpsup: Unfortunately, Bama instigated this entire escalation of salaries. Schools like Miss. St and Vandy don't have that kind of capitol to compete, and that is unfortunate.

[GatorNation]

I'm not sold on DisturbinUrban or his fancy offense yet.


Oh, GOD...haven't u gotten it yet, lol?!!!

You said the same thing last year, too. Do we have to run down all of the "offensive" problems we had last year (e.g., rebuilt/young OL, no running back/game, no dual-threat QB, most penalized team in the nation, etc.). Even with our defense, if Meyer's offense was THAT inept, we wouldn't have won 12 games. That's just a fact, Geaux.

We weren't the '01 Rams, but we scored enough to win games. And with the new pieces, which fit the system much better, we'll be much improved this year.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

We weren't the '01 Rams, but we scored enough to win games. And with the new pieces, which fit the system much better, we'll be much improved this year.

Wow. You're talking about offensively, right? Just checking.

[timNem]

Very true. :thumpsup: Unfortunately, Bama instigated this entire escalation of salaries. Schools like Miss. St and Vandy don't have that kind of capitol to compete, and that is unfortunate.
So Bama instigated this by being the ones who raised the bar by 17.5%?

[GatorNation]

Wow. You're talking about offensively, right? Just checking.

yes, I'm speaking about the offense...

:D

[GeauxTo]

Oh, GOD...haven't u gotten it yet, lol?!!!

You said the same thing last year, too.

You had an awesome defense last year that sent many of your opponents 3 and out, allowing your offense to have a lot of cracks at it. That's no longer true. While you have a great receiver in Harvin, the question remains whether Tebow can hit him on significantly long routes. You'll be facing some Ds that will challenge Mr. Tebow to the hilt. Will he be up to the task? Press releases say yes, but that is a big question to be answered. Can Tebow actually roll out of the pocket with enough speed to turn the corner if appropriate, or is he just a rugged fullback slugger who can't make it around the corner? Can he put the ball on the numbers when the numbers are way, way down the field? What happens when his pocket collapses? It's hard to avoid 300 lb. guys who are at least as fast as you are. Florida (like many SEC teams in 2007) has a lot of questions to be answered. This is really the year to see if DisturbinUrban is the real deal. Maybe he is, but maybe he isn't.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

So Bama instigated this by being the ones who raised the bar by 17.5%?

timNem, you have to admit that $4 million over 8 years is a pretty lofty salary and that 17.5% is a huge increase--especially when dealing with gross amounts of money. Now, as we were talking about, UF or any other school might have to worry about keeping thier coach around if they pay less that that. This is what I'm talking about regarding Bama's instigating salary inflation. Especially in the SEC. Also, I think coaches such as Carrell, Tressell, Brown all have those salaries because they earned their respective schools BCS championship trophies. Yes, Saban won one, but not at Bama. Yet Bama is paying him as if he had already won seven.

[Dickle Me Elmo]

yes, I'm speaking about the offense...

:D

Haha! Okay. :laugh:

[GatorNation]

You had an awesome defense last year that sent many of your opponents 3 and out, allowing your offense to have a lot of cracks at it. That's no longer true. While you have a great receiver in Harvin, the question remains whether Tebow can hit him on significantly long routes. You'll be facing some Ds that will challenge Mr. Tebow to the hilt. Will he be up to the task? Press releases say yes, but that is a big question to be answered. Can Tebow actually roll out of the pocket with enough speed to turn the corner if appropriate, or is he just a rugged fullback slugger who can't make it around the corner? Can he put the ball on the numbers when the numbers are way, way down the field? What happens when his pocket collapses? It's hard to avoid 300 lb. guys who are at least as fast as you are. Florida (like many SEC teams in 2007) has a lot of questions to be answered. This is really the year to see if DisturbinUrban is the real deal. Maybe he is, but maybe he isn't.


LOL...oh, man. Do you actually read my posts? I, and others, have analyzed these questions already. Do you really think Leak is faster or more mobile than Tebow? That's what you're implying in your post. How many deep passes did Leak throw last year? Hint: not very many. How many were spirals caught in tight, close coverage? Hint: not very many.

Do you think it's likely that the offense will be more dangerous with Tebow's threat to run, or was it more potent with Leak's one-dimensional attack? Is it tougher to pass the ball against cover-3 and -4 defenses, as they sat back without worrying about the threat of the option, or cover-1 looks with man-free on the outside designed to slow the option game down? Hint: the latter. Why do you think we had so many drag, rub, and hitch routes last year? Teams were playing the pass, and without a running game, it's a miracle we won more than 7 games...even with our defense. They won't be able to key on one aspect of the offense next year.

I'll let other posters handle the rest (e.g., experience coming back at OL, numerous weapons on the outside...it's not just Harvin, etc.).

[BAMAPERRY]

timNem, you have to admit that $4 million over 8 years is a pretty lofty salary and that 17.5% is a huge increase--especially when dealing with gross amounts of money. Now, as we were talking about, UF or any other school might have to worry about keeping thier coach around if they pay less that that. This is what I'm talking about regarding Bama's instigating salary inflation. Especially in the SEC. Also, I think coaches such as Carrell, Tressell, Brown all have those salaries because they earned their respective schools BCS championship trophies. Yes, Saban won one, but not at Bama. Yet Bama is paying him as if he had already won seven.

Hey, DUDE! You guys were making Saban the highest paid coach in the Country when he was there. Around 3 mil a year if I recall correctly. Our coach was making around ONE mil a year at the time. HYPOCRITE!

[armadillo]

I s this the Bama Perry Board? Perry please stop posting those goofball (and awful mspaint) pics. Here is a little light reading:

The Great Crimson Lie... « Loser with Socks (http://loserwithsocks.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/the-great-crimson-lie/)

[BAMAPERRY]

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[gatorunvrsty]

The same thing could have been said for Saban and LSU. With a rich recruiting ground that's pretty much unchallenged in the state, Saban had it very, very good. While Meyer is no Saban (so far), regarding interest in the NFL, it is amazing what can happen if you flash enough green at someone.

Thank God, for that! :laugh:

Nick Saban's Coaching Record:

1990 Toledo 9-2 MAAC Co-Champs
1995 Michigan State 6-5-1
1996 Michigan State 6-6
1997 Michigan State 7-5
1998 Michigan State 6-6
1999 Michigan State 9-2
2000 LSU 8-4
2001 LSU 10-3 SEC Champs
2002 LSU 8-5
2003 LSU 13-1 SEC and National Co-Champs
2004 LSU 9-3

Total 91-42-1 .683 Without 2003, not a very impressive record. Even at LSU he seems to have always followed up a great season with an average one. MSU considers the Saban era the lean years.

Urban Meyer's Coaching Record:

2001 Bowling Green 8-3
2002 Bowling Green 9-3
2003 Utah 10-2 Mountain West Conference Champs
2004 Utah 12-0 Mountain West Conference Champs
2005 Florida 9-3
2006 Florida 13-1 SEC and National Champs

Total 61-12 .836 Meyer would have to go 6-6 for the next 5 years to be a Nick Saban.:laugh: Personally, I'd prefer he stay an Urban Meyer. Add the character (or lack, thereof, in Saban's case) issue, and I'm quite certain that would be my assessment.

[BAMAPERRY]

Meyer certainly walked into a great situation at Florida, probably not as good as what Saban left Miles, but damned good. We'll see how good of a coach he is this year.

[armadillo]

Meyer's record only supports that he lives off of other coaches recruits. He leaves for another job every 3 years.

I think Saban is a better coach/recruiter. And he has those cool retro-80's angel wing bangs ala Farrah Fawcett. Meyer is a bad combover waiting to unzip

[BAMAPERRY]

He doesn't stay one place as long as Saban:


Year Team Overall Conference Standing Bowl Game Bowl Opponent Outcome Rank#
Bowling Green State University Falcons (Mid-American Conference) (2001 — 2002)
2001 Bowling Green 8-3 5-3 2-T
2002 Bowling Green 9-3 6-2 3
At Bowling Green: 17-6 11-5
Utah Utes (Mountain West Conference) (2003 — 2004)
2003 Utah 10-2 5-1 1 Liberty Bowl Southern Miss W 17-0 21
2004 Utah 12-0 7-0 1 Fiesta Bowl † Pittsburgh W 35-7 5
At Utah: 22-2 12-1
Florida Gators (Southeastern Conference) (2005 — present)
2005 Florida 9-3 5-3 3rd East Outback Bowl Iowa W 31-24 16/12
2006 Florida 13-1 8-1 1 BCS National Championship Game † Ohio State W 41-14 1
At Florida: 22-4 13-4
Career: 61-12
National Championship Conference Title

[armadillo]

I just said that Perry

[KillerNut]

I think that the Gators will be just fine this year and surprise a lot of people. With all the talent that you guys have aboard already and with the talent the Urban Meyer is bringing in, you don't drop off talentwise after losing players, you just reload with other great caliber players just like every other national powerhouse. LSU is in a similar situation. I believe that LSU and Florida are pretty equally matched across the board and will both be the class of the SEC this year. Florida still has a great shot at repeating as champs again. Tebow is a very capable quarterback and I think will lead the offense better than Chris Leak did. Florida has 3 or 4 highly touted quarterbacks on their roster and are all capable of stepping in and holding the reigns if something should happen.

[PSUFan1]

I agree with KillerNut on this one where you guys surprise a lot of people. Florida has recruited very well in the past and actually has a coach that can win. Unlike Zook when he recruited very well for Florda but couldn't coach that well.

[UAdan]

I'm not sold on DisturbinUrban or his fancy offense yet. Here's what could happen to him this year (LOSSES IN BOLD):

Sept. 1Western Kentucky
Sept. 8Troy
Sept. 15Tennessee
Sept. 22at Ole Miss
Sept. 29Auburn
Oct. 6at LSU
Oct. 20at Kentucky
Oct. 27vs. Georgia
Nov. 3Vanderbilt
Nov. 10at South Carolina
Nov. 17Florida Atlantic
Nov. 24Florida State

An interesting East/West matchup on the 22nd of Sept. Florida's lost to the Rebels the last two meetings (although that was with Zook at the helm) and Coach O always has his boys fired up for the big games. Ole Miss would love nothing more than to knock off the defending NC's. Plus, it's in Oxford, AND it's early in the season. I think the Gators should be on upset alert that week.

I think Florida won't miss that much on offense. It will take Tebow a few games to fully get acclimated to becoming the full-time starter but he has all kinds of talent around him, especially at WR. Defensively, FLA may be young but they are fast and athletic. Let's keep in mind that the Gators had a brutal schedule on paper last year, too, and they fared pretty well. I can see them ending up in Atlanta again, if Tebow develops into the guy they need him to be. They need him to stay healthy, though.

[Sabanocchio]

An interesting East/West matchup on the 22nd of Sept. Florida's lost to the Rebels the last two meetings (although that was with Zook at the helm) and Coach O always has his boys fired up for the big games. Ole Miss would love nothing more than to knock off the defending NC's. Plus, it's in Oxford, AND it's early in the season. I think the Gators should be on upset alert that week.

I think Florida won't miss that much on offense. It will take Tebow a few games to fully get acclimated to becoming the full-time starter but he has all kinds of talent around him, especially at WR. Defensively, FLA may be young but they are fast and athletic. Let's keep in mind that the Gators had a brutal schedule on paper last year, too, and they fared pretty well. I can see them ending up in Atlanta again, if Tebow develops into the guy they need him to be. They need him to stay healthy, though. Quite possible. But I think LSU is better across the board. Florida lost too much on defense to compete for the SECC this year IMO.

[armadillo]

Herban meyer can't start 11 wrs or 11 qbs and win. He needs Ron Zook to come home

[Dickle Me Elmo]

Hey, DUDE! You guys were making Saban the highest paid coach in the Country when he was there. Around 3 mil a year if I recall correctly. Our coach was making around ONE mil a year at the time. HYPOCRITE!

Perry, please pay attention my post you were referring to:

timNem, you have to admit that $4 million over 8 years is a pretty lofty salary and that 17.5% is a huge increase--especially when dealing with gross amounts of money. Now, as we were talking about, UF or any other school might have to worry about keeping thier coach around if they pay less that that. This is what I'm talking about regarding Bama's instigating salary inflation. Especially in the SEC. Also, I think coaches such as Carrell, Tressell, Brown all have those salaries because they earned their respective schools BCS championship trophies. Yes, Saban won one, but not at Bama. Yet Bama is paying him as if he had already won seven.

Okay, you see that bolded area? (hint: the bolded areas are darker) What that is saying is that those coaches earned their salaries at their respective schools. LSU made Saban the highest paid coach by one dollar after 5 seasons once his team had achieved the BCS championship win. Bama made Saban the highest paid coach by 17.5% (quoting timNem, there) after leaving two programs in two years and losing his last three games as a head coach. What is especially humorous, is that you mention your old head coach. This coach brought you to a 10-2 season two years ago, and a #3 ranking late in the season, and yet he was making $3 million less a year than your current coach, whom has proven nothing. And please don't call me a hypocrite, especially in all capitol letters like a four year old--it makes you look silly. Just some friendly advice. :thumpsup:

[GatorHunter]

Herban meyer can't start 11 wrs or 11 qbs and win. He needs Ron Zook to come home


Is this armadillo? The above most definitely came from a guy of this caliber...:laugh:


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[GatorHunter]

Quite possible. But I think LSU is better across the board. Florida lost too much on offense to compete for the SECC this year IMO.

It's actually Florida's defense with the key losses. I think our offense stacks-up against anyones...especially LSU.....their running game hasn't been exactly stellar and Doucet is pretty much their only proven WR...not to mention Flynn hasn't had any significant PT in over a year.....if our defense can gel quickly, watch out...if not, we may have a couple of "hiccups" along the way...:(

[Sabanocchio]

It's actually Florida's defense with the key losses. I think our offense stacks-up against anyones...especially LSU.....their running game hasn't been exactly stellar and Doucet is pretty much their only proven WR...not to mention Flynn hasn't had any significant PT in over a year.....if our defense can gel quickly, watch out...if not, we may have a couple of "hiccups" along the way...:(
That's what I meant to say. Brain fart I guess. I meant on D. You're right on the offense.

[blues_cap]

Herban meyer can't start 11 wrs or 11 qbs and win. He needs Ron Zook to come home

still might be able to stop tennessee's running game(- 11 ring a bell).

[armadillo]

I think Florida is wonderful. I hope that all of the arrests don't adversely affect team chemistry.I want a repeat of last season.

Go Gators!!

[gatormaniac]

I think Florida is wonderful. I hope that all of the arrests don't adversely affect team chemistry.I want a repeat of last season.

Go Gators!!

Urbs is still unfamiliar with some SEC traditions. He was under the impression that the Fulmer Cup is a welcome addition to the trophy case. I explained to Meyer in an e-mail today exactly what the Cup represents. His secretary replied and explained that coach was not in the office ( something about seeing a bail bondsman ) but said she would make sure he received the message.

[GoVols1998]

still might be able to stop tennessee's running game(- 11 ring a bell).

Travis Stephens 230 yards in ur house ring a bell?:laugh:

[GoVols1998]

here ya go heres a pic to refresh ur memory

[GatorHunter]

here ya go heres a pic to refresh ur memory

Yea...congrats on winning the SEC that year...oh, wait...:ohmy:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k105/gatorhunter22/Urban_2_Phil_0.jpg

[GoVols1998]

Or how how about the year when we won the SEC:ohmy:

[GoVols1998]

:whistle: o yeah and this

[GoVols1998]

:whistle: And im sure u remember AL or atleast im sure Jesse Palmer does:whistle:

[Seppeh]

I'm positive you all remember this..

http://publish.netitor.com/photos/schools/geo/galleries/football/special_extras/walker_with_heisman.jpg

[GoVols1998]

I'm positive you all remember this..

http://publish.netitor.com/photos/schools/geo/galleries/football/special_extras/walker_with_heisman.jpg

o yeah he was AWESOME!:thumpsup:

[blues_cap]

Travis Stephens 230 yards in ur house ring a bell?:laugh:

and when was this?? pre 2002??? i thought this was a tennessee fan, not alabama.

[Gator2753]

I think Florida is wonderful. I hope that all of the arrests don't adversely affect team chemistry.I want a repeat of last season.

Go Gators!!
It is after all named the "Fulmer cup" lol
Pot, meet........:dry:

[Gator2753]

Yea...congrats on winning the SEC that year...oh, wait...:ohmy:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k105/gatorhunter22/Urban_2_Phil_0.jpg

LOL. I love this pic, it almost looks like a photoshop...:whistle:

[GatorHunter]

:whistle: o yeah and this

:laugh: ...you've got a good "long term" memory...congrats.:ph34r:

[Neyland's Ghost]

Scout is pretty much "spot on" as far as I see it...great post.

As far as Meyer leaving for the NFL...it'll never happen. Unlike Donovan or Spurrier, Meyer has stated several times that he will never coach in the NFL...he loves CFB...loves to recruit, the pageantry of CFB. Look at his coaching style...nothing like an NFL coach....and the NFL isn't looking for spread-option coaches. The only way I ever see Meyer leaving Gainesville is if he's fired...and I don't see that happening.


If you haven't noticed everybody has a price nowadays. It does not matter what someone "says" it is what they do when the money is on the table. I hope like hell that POS leaves. First of all because unfortunately he is a top notch coach, but I also view him as a mercenary, or outsider, trying to infiltrate the South and southern football. He is just using the wealth of talent, which is the state of Florida, to further his own ulterior motives. I just don't like that arrogant bastard.

[C_hris]

I'm positive you all remember this..

http://publish.netitor.com/photos/schools/geo/galleries/football/special_extras/walker_with_heisman.jpg

Burn.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :thumpsup: :thumpsup: :thumpsup:

[gatormaniac]

If you haven't noticed everybody has a price nowadays. It does not matter what someone "says" it is what they do when the money is on the table. I hope like hell that POS leaves. First of all because unfortunately he is a top notch coach, but I also view him as a mercenary, or outsider, trying to infiltrate the South and southern football. He is just using the wealth of talent, which is the state of Florida, to further his own ulterior motives. I just don't like that arrogant bastard.

Are you saying that coaches in the SEC that aren't from the south are mercenaries trying to infiltrate southern football to destroy it? You're taking this General Neyland thing a bit too far. The civil war ended in 1865.

[armadillo]

If he is talking about Herban, he is from Ohio, and he does move avery 3rd year.

I am just saying

[GatorHunter]

If you haven't noticed everybody has a price nowadays. It does not matter what someone "says" it is what they do when the money is on the table. I hope like hell that POS leaves. First of all because unfortunately he is a top notch coach, but I also view him as a mercenary, or outsider, trying to infiltrate the South and southern football. He is just using the wealth of talent, which is the state of Florida, to further his own ulterior motives. I just don't like that arrogant bastard.

Wow, Neyland...tell us how you really feel...I guess "2-0" does hurt. Some people are made for the NFL...some are not. Meyer isn't the type. I could be proven wrong later, but I always knew that Spurs would leave for the NFL...and I thought Donovan was gone, too. But UF is a great place to coach...great city, tons of talent and a great AD. The NFL and NBA are player driven...NCAA football and basketball are coach driven. With the amounts of money college coaches are making today, the NFL "lure" as far as money is concerned has shrunk. Meyer will be at UF for a lonnnng time...get use to it.

BTW, funny how you refer to Meyer as a "POS"...Fulmer is one of the "shadiest" coaches in all of CFB...what does that make him...a septic tank?:lol:

[GatorHunter]

If he is talking about Herban, he is from Ohio, and he does move avery 3rd year.

I am just saying

Yea...in his short (6 year) coaching career, Meyer has left his two previous stops after 2 seasons...well, we're gettin' started on the 3rd...and guess what, he's still here. Kinda blows that logic out of the water, huh...:wacko:

[armadillo]

Urbs is still unfamiliar with some SEC traditions. He was under the impression that the Fulmer Cup is a welcome addition to the trophy case. I explained to Meyer in an e-mail today exactly what the Cup represents. His secretary replied and explained that coach was not in the office ( something about seeing a bail bondsman ) but said she would make sure he received the message.

The Fulmer Cup needs a new name. Tennessee's arrest record has been eclipsed by coach [name redacted] and the Univesity of [name redacted] this year.

[C_hris]

I dunno but I think this thread has been drivin into the ground. Flordia is set on a coach for a while. ACCEPT IT.

[C_hris]

The Fulmer Cup needs a new name. Tennessee's arrest record has been eclipsed by coach [name redacted] and the Univesity of [name redacted] this year.

Is that all you talk about. No wonder you got the nickname troll.

[armadillo]

I did not bring up the Fulmer Cup, some other poster did. Would you prefer posters not respond to disparaging remarks made about their schools? Here, please don't respond to this: Ainge owns Athens. 51?

[MillDawg007]

Armadillo that 51 point game was an amzaing game. But you honestly have no room to talk about Tennessee owning UGA recently. Yall won i think like 7 in a row and then uga went on a 4 in a row tear and now its going back and fourth. And besides 98 with ur National title(congrats) you have only sniffed the SEC title being vastly over rated.

[GatorNation]

Wow, Neyland...tell us how you really feel...I guess "2-0" does hurt. Some people are made for the NFL...some are not. Meyer isn't the type. I could be proven wrong later, but I always knew that Spurs would leave for the NFL...and I thought Donovan was gone, too. But UF is a great place to coach...great city, tons of talent and a great AD. The NFL and NBA are player driven...NCAA football and basketball are coach driven. With the amounts of money college coaches are making today, the NFL "lure" as far as money is concerned has shrunk. Meyer will be at UF for a lonnnng time...get use to it.

BTW, funny how you refer to Meyer as a "POS"...Fulmer is one of the "shadiest" coaches in all of CFB...what does that make him...a septic tank?:lol:


Yeah, Meyer needs total, almost dominating, control over his team. He could never get away with that in the NFL....at least not the way he's used to it in college.

[armadillo]

Armadillo that 51 point game was an amzaing game. But you honestly have no room to talk about Tennessee owning UGA recently. Yall won i think like 7 in a row and then uga went on a 4 in a row tear and now its going back and fourth. And besides 98 with ur National title(congrats) you have only sniffed the SEC title being vastly over rated.
I certainly did not wish to bring it up. In a weird way I kind of like Richt's coiff. I was merely making a point to the other dawg

[GatorHunter]

The Fulmer Cup needs a new name. Tennessee's arrest record has been eclipsed by coach [name redacted] and the Univesity of [name redacted] this year.

It's called the "Fulmer Cup" because over a period of several seasons...UT was second only to f$u in the amount of players with law enforcement issues.....it'll take more than one year of "behaving" to justify a name change...:laugh:

[gatormaniac]

Yea...in his short (6 year) coaching career, Meyer has left his two previous stops after 2 seasons...well, we're gettin' started on the 3rd...and guess what, he's still here. Kinda blows that logic out of the water, huh...:wacko:

Bringing fact into this thread will severely diminish the entertainment quality. Just sayin'

:ph34r:

[SavageOrangeJug]

It's called the "Fulmer Cup" because over a period of several seasons...UT was second only to f$u in the amount of players with law enforcement issues.....it'll take more than one year of "behaving" to justify a name change...:laugh:
Damn right! We're mean muthas up on The Hill.
We'll win the the party before the game, the game, and the fight after the game. :box:

[armadillo]

would you like me to post a list of Gator "misbehavior" over the last 15 years? Just give me the green light. It is not updated with the current 3rd degree felony, but it won't take but a moment to add that

[C_hris]

would you like me to post a list of Gator "misbehavior" over the last 15 years? Just give me the green light. It is not updated with the current 3rd degree felony, but it won't take but a moment to add that

:attention :icon_lame :icon_lame :icon_lame :attention

[Sabanocchio]

Yeah, Meyer needs total, almost dominating, control over his team. He could never get away with that in the NFL....at least not the way he's used to it in college.The NFL game is so vastly different than the college game that all coaches need an adjustment period to learn it. IMO, the key to success is to accept an assistant coach/coordinator job for a couple of years behind a great coach and learn the system. Meyer has all the characteristics you look for in a great NFL head coach. I thought this even before he took the Florida job.

[armadillo]

:attention :icon_lame :icon_lame :icon_lame :attention
Oh dear Lord, you have to be joshing

[C_hris]

Oh dear Lord, you have to be joshing

Actually I'm not. You contribute nothing to this thread you continue to reply to peoples posts and the only thing you say is stuff concerning a teams arrest record. Your one intellectual post concerning Florida's coach leaving every second year was totally irrelevant since well like the gator said hes on his third year now. Then you bring up the Tenn. vs Georgia game and how we lost. Yes we did lose very badly but if I'm not mistaken this thread is about Florida and a preseason look at there team. So take your trash talking into the trash talking forum where it belongs and come back when you have something interesting to contribute.:thumpsup: :thumpsup: :thumpsup:

[gatormaniac]

would you like me to post a list of Gator "misbehavior" over the last 15 years? Just give me the green light. It is not updated with the current 3rd degree felony, but it won't take but a moment to add that

Yeah, we've had our share, especially during the Zook years. Still, the cup is aptly named.

[Sabanocchio]

I don't have a problem with the name of the cup. We had an unusual surge of misbehaviour for a couple of years there, but don't act like you haven't had your share. Especially lately. Look at the cup rankings for an example.

[gatormaniac]

I don't have a problem with the name of the cup. We had an unusual surge of misbehaviour for a couple of years there, but don't act like you haven't had your share. Especially lately. Look at the cup rankings for an example.

Actually, the first off season under Meyer was noneventful. No clue what happened this year, though. Stupidity runs in spurts I guess. The Zook years were a nightmare. Between cars being vandalized, fights, Zook threatening frat boys. Embarrasing.

[MillDawg007]

Dude get a new picture the Tennessee Mullet is killing your cred.

[GoVols1998]

:laugh: ...you've got a good "long term" memory...congrats.:ph34r:

lol yes say no to drugs
:laugh: