Should College football do away with Preseason Rankigns?

[MillDawg007]

In my opinion this way of ranking teams before the season starts dooms certain teams chances at a National Title before the first kickoff..Perfect example is the Auburn Tigers...Not being preranked high is the reason for them being snuffed...If they had been say preranked 10 we could be seeing the Tigers as National Championship winners...I feel this aspect severely ruins the chances of SEC teams as well as others across the country..How do we fix the problem any ideas...My one idea would be wait three weeks into the season..Post a preseason top 25 and then wait 3 or 5 weeks into the season and post the first AP top 25...This way if a team is at the top and looses it gives other teams a chance to jump up there...Any thoughts???

[Seppeh]

Have you ever thought about using just one period and seperating your sentences out?

[MillDawg007]

Noo i like the continuing of the ....

[Seppeh]

I guess thats why your a Vols fan.

[MillDawg007]

Right. Cant hate a team i liked for so long.

[MillDawg007]

U go to UGA or are u a homer or something?

[MillDawg007]

Its funny i talked to a Bamer the other day and he was asking me how i would root for the UGA TENN game....I told him my school i go to ways more than a team my buddy introduced me to..So its Georgia all the way..The conversion has been tough but im pulling through.

[MillDawg007]

Mann my bad you go to school?

[Seppeh]

Never heard of the edit button either, I see.

[MillDawg007]

I dont have to edit forum posts man...Unless you cant read it.

[Sabanocchio]

I agree one hundred percent. The only thing they are good for is getting the fans excited about the games and giving the media something to talk about. IMO, they should start ranking the schools when the official AP poll comes out and leave it to magazines, websites, and newspapers to rank based on their opinions. BTW, Mill, if you plan on sticking around for awhile, you should get AuFootball to do a sig for you featuring UGA and to a lesser degree Tenn. I think it's cool you have both teams to root for.

[MillDawg007]

Yea i mean i didnt really have a die hard school so i was thrilled to watch the vols and all..I have to say my loyality has swayed to the dawgs since i am a student but i will root for tennessee except when they play the dawgs.

[Sabanocchio]

Yea i mean i didnt really have a die hard school so i was thrilled to watch the vols and all..I have to say my loyality has swayed to the dawgs since i am a student but i will root for tennessee except when they play the dawgs.
Nuthin' wrong with that.

[azamugg]

of course there shouldnt be a preseason ranking in a sport voted on at year end............no harm in a sport where theres a year end tournament

only problem, sports rags would continue preseason rankings, then the ap voters would refer to the sports rag polls when they had to vote on their first poll 3 to 4 weeks into the season

[GatorHunter]

They should rank the teams after the first 6 games.....then again at seasons end...then again after conference championship games. SOS should be the determining factor for ranking, aside from wins and losses of course.

No way should a 12-0 Big East team be ranked higher than a 11-1 SEC or Big 10 team.

[Sabanocchio]

I'm sick of seeing that retarded message so I put this one in its place.

[GeauxTo]

I like having preseason rankings. It sort of gives us a rough gauge of what everyone is thinking. And the disparity we see after the #1s and #2s is great fodder for the off-season discussion that we need to sustain us until the hitting starts.

[TPM]

They should rank the teams after the first 6 games.....then again at seasons end...then again after conference championship games. SOS should be the determining factor for ranking, aside from wins and losses of course.

No way should a 12-0 Big East team be ranked higher than a 11-1 SEC or Big 10 team.

Good post. I've been saying for years that the polls should not come out till the 6th week. Preseason rankings help teams like USC, ND, etc. maintain a high ranking while playing crappy teams. If the rankings came out later in the year I think the SEC would have had back to back NC in '03 and '04.

[timNem]

They should rank the teams after the first 6 games.....then again at seasons end...then again after conference championship games. SOS should be the determining factor for ranking, aside from wins and losses of course.

No way should a 12-0 Big East team be ranked higher than a 11-1 SEC or Big 10 team.Thats an excellent idea because having rankings in the preseason totally screwed Auburn out of playing for the NC. Also having weekly rankings allows for a higher probability of unfair rankings where a team could never recover from.

[Bulldog Bry]

I don't mind the pre-season rankings so much. It's just that they (and by they, I mean sportswriters and coaches alike) never seem to make appropriate adjustments in September. Granted, ranking teams is very subjective, but still - have the balls to say "Wow, this team is just not as good as we predicted."

[volimhtown]

No way should a 12-0 Big East team be ranked higher than a 11-1 SEC or Big 10 team.

I get the jist of what you are trying to say, BUT had Louisville (for instance) beaten ALL of their conference opponents by say a 40-10 average margin and easily handled 3 quality/elite OOC opponents, I'd have a hard time putting Florida's "resume" (from a year ago pre-SECCG and NT) ahead of that.
Again.... ifs and buts = candy and nuts!!

[GatorHunter]

I get the jist of what you are trying to say, BUT had Louisville (for instance) beaten ALL of their conference opponents by say a 40-10 average margin and easily handled 3 quality/elite OOC opponents, I'd have a hard time putting Florida's "resume" (from a year ago pre-SECCG and NT) ahead of that.
Again.... ifs and buts = candy and nuts!!

A 4 TD average margin of victory would be a different story...there's exceptions to every rule...but what are the chances? UL, WVU and RU all proved to be average-at-best when the season ended...however, through-out the year, these teams were mentioned more on the Sports pages and ESPN than the eventual NC Florida Gators...hence, they maintained undue high rankings.

[MillDawg007]

I understand how the rankings help fuel interest, However it hurts the sport more than it helps it. Fans will discuss college football if there is or isnt a preseason ranking. The thought of teams in weak confrences ranked high like Hawaii is nothing but hogwash. The team plays absolutely no one and they most likely will not loose. Thus when its time to pick some BCS teams they will be in the mix. I dont see how its justifiable to place them ahead of even a 3 loss SEC team. A more widened schedule must be in place for teams like Hawaii to be considered in the top tier of the Nation in college football..

[Neyland's Ghost]

The preseason rankings are done to sell magazines. It is done for the fan. I think teams should be unranked until half of the schedule is played, by that time i think you can pretty much determine what kind of team you have. Not to mention it would be a more fair practice. I mean let the teams go at it and settle it on the field, that's what the fans want to see anyway.

[The Ramp]

i'm for them...what the hell are we gonna argue about then?

[Neyland's Ghost]

good point, ramp.

[The Ramp]

good point, ramp.

shut up...u suck

*starts arguement with NG*

:laugh:

[MillDawg007]

Mags and Networks can prerank teams all they want we can argue about that but for these teams to be set out when the season starts hurts many teams especially in the SEC..I would bet money Rutgers and Hawaii and teams of that nature would have no chance if they played one or two SEC teams but since they are ranked, and play no one..They get the bid if they are undefeated(which they most likely will be) and thus screw teams who actually play a schedule.

[volimhtown]

UL, WVU and RU all proved to be average-at-best when the season ended...however, through-out the year, these teams were mentioned more on the Sports pages and ESPN than the eventual NC Florida Gators...hence, they maintained undue high rankings.

"Average at Best"......hmmmmm.....
* Louisville finished 12-1, only loss was by 3 to an 11-2 Rutgers team, beat SEC Music City Bowl champ Kentucky by 31 (whom Florida only won by 19) and defeated the ACC Champion by 11 in their bowl game.
* West Virginia, who by the way was coming off a thrashing of the SEC Champ in their previous bowl game, finished 11-2, including wins over Rutgers, Maryland, and a 28 point waxing of the Bulldogs in Starkville (who by the way defeated Bama, and lost to Kentucky and Georgia by a combined 6 points)
* Rutgers finished 11-2 losing to WVU by just 2 pts, and whose wins included victories at North Carolina, a shot-out of Illinios, and a white-washing of Kansas State (who defeated Texas) 37-10 in their bowl game.

OK...you convinced me....these teams sucked!! :thumpsup:
By your rationale, there wasn't a college football team who played outside of Gainesville, FL who wasn't any better than "average at best"! Sad part is, aside from the NT game and maybe the SECCG, Florida's resume/accomplishments weren't anything any more impressive than these teams'! YET, the Gators were the one who got the shot...not these teams!! So, outside of just whining about how Sportscenter wasn't ALL about the Gators all year, please explain your rationale as to how they "maintained undue high rankings" when the Gators were the one who benefitted from the final regular season rankings... ESPECIALLY considering the fact that ALL of the 3 teams mentioned were undefeated for 3 full weeks after Florida sported it's loss!!

P.S. Please recant trying to avoid the usual and predictable :barf: about how each of those teams would have 4-5 losses if they played in the SEC!!