View Full Version : I Honestly Want to Know re: Nick Saban
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 12:41 AM
No flaming here, I give my word. What timeline do Bama fans put on the expectations of Nick Saban? ex: first year -9 wins, second year make it to the SECC, third BCS bowl so on and so forth. I really want to know because all I've been familiar with is the radicals that think he is going to step in and win immediately.
UA0509
05-27-2007, 12:51 AM
first year 8-9 wins, be competitive for the length of games
2nd year, compete for SEC west
3rd year, compete for SEC overall
4th year, compete for SEC again
5th year, be in NC talks at some point, while still competing in the SEC
not too bad i dont think
WarEagle73
05-27-2007, 01:04 AM
first year 8-9 wins, be competitive for the length of games
2nd year, compete for SEC west
3rd year, compete for SEC overall
4th year, compete for SEC again
5th year, be in NC talks at some point, while still competing in the SEC
not too bad i dont think
I think you are pretty much spot on. I cannot speak for myself as I am a "Barner", but two of my best friends are "Bammers" and they are saying pretty much the same thing. The SEC is just too good across the board for any team to rise up in a short time.
shk999
05-27-2007, 01:06 AM
1st year.......Better than the Shula era.
2nd year......Better than the 1st year.
3rd year.......Top of the SEC West, hopefully top of the SEC period.
4th year.......World Domination
timNem
05-27-2007, 01:14 AM
We're just looking for a coach that isn't lost on the sideline that demands the players to be disciplined and conditioned with a purpose. With what we have been through the last few years and to finally get a coach with Saban's demanding attitude and work ethic is just what the doctor ordered. And that is why you see some excitement among Bama fans. Its not that we are expecting anything this year or next year, we're just thrilled that the light at the end of the tunnel is becoming visible. The first season is going to be tough and anything is possible, we could have six wins or we could have ten wins. Who knows really? It should be interesting.
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 01:15 AM
1st year.......Better than the Shula era.
2nd year......Better than the 1st year.
3rd year.......Top of the SEC West, hopefully top of the SEC period.
4th year.......World Domination
Nice...:thumpsup:
Noah.Dreams
05-27-2007, 06:11 AM
In all seriousness... I expect to be complaining about the 2009 BCS championship dodging Alabama.
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 06:37 AM
In all seriousness... I expect to be complaining about the 2009 BCS championship dodging Alabama.
I promised I wouldn't...so I won't say a word. I gotta admit, I am suprised by some of your objectiveness. With the exception of two people.(And Shk's was funny enough to be excused.) I'm just curious how many other SEC schools you could ask this question to and get similar answers. Thoughts?
BAMAPERRY
05-27-2007, 07:21 AM
LSU is the best on paper this year. But, they were last year too and finished 3rd in the West. I expect us to be better coached and better conditioned, and I think we already are. I see no reason we can't compete for the West title this year. We would have even if Shula had remained. 06 was a rebuilding year and Bama lost some close road games. We'll have to play some young guys for depth on Defense, but the other schools have issues too.
Crimson Kicker8
05-27-2007, 08:03 AM
I promised I wouldn't...so I won't say a word. I gotta admit, I am suprised by some of your objectiveness. With the exception of two people.(And Shk's was funny enough to be excused.) I'm just curious how many other SEC schools you could ask this question to and get similar answers. Thoughts?
I would expect the average fan to expect their team to improve every year (except Florida, who need to maintain their excellence). The upper-tier teams (Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Auburn) strive for a BCS bowl, shot at the SEC title, and possibly a NC appearence every year. The middle-tier teams (Alabama, Arkansas, USC, Ole Miss) strive to improve to the next tier (which Arkansas did last year but need to maintain in order to stay there), appear in a respectible Bowl, and possibly make a run for the SEC. The lower-tier teams (Kentucky, Vandy, MSU) expect to improve to the next tier, make it to a bowl game, and improve their SEC standing from the previous year).
As for Alabama this year, if they show up for 4 quarters every game, win SOME of the close ones (as opposed to none), and win their bowl game I'll consider that a great improvement from last year and a successful year. If Saban lasts 4 years (which I doubt he will) then I would expect Alabama to be competing for the SEC title. A NC isn't feasible in 4 years IMO and would only become possible if Saban lasts longer than that.
If you are expecting or looking for the Alabama fan who expects an SEC title this year and a NC next year you might be looking awhile. As I've said before, that type of mentality is the minority among Bama fans (as much as people refuse to accept that fact on here). The objectiveness of the Alabama fans who have posted thus far really shouldn't come as a surprise. Most of us are humbled by recent performances and have very realistic expectations.
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 08:06 AM
I would expect the average fan to expect their team to improve every year (except Florida, who need to maintain their excellence). The upper-tier teams (Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Auburn) strive for a BCS bowl, shot at the SEC title, and possibly a NC appearence every year. The middle-tier teams (Alabama, Arkansas, USC, Ole Miss) strive to improve to the next tier (which Arkansas did last year but need to maintain in order to stay there), appear in a respectible Bowl, and possibly make a run for the SEC. The lower-tier teams (Kentucky, Vandy, MSU) expect to improve to the next tier, make it to a bowl game, and improve their SEC standing from the previous year).
As for Alabama this year, if they show up for 4 quarters every game, win SOME of the close ones (as opposed to none), and win their bowl game I'll consider that a great improvement from last year and a successful year. If Saban lasts 4 years (which I doubt he will) then I would expect Alabama to be competing for the SEC title. A NC isn't feasible in 4 years IMO and would only become possible if Saban lasts longer than that.
If you are expecting or looking for the Alabama fan who expects an SEC title this year and a NC next year you might be looking awhile. As I've said before, that type of mentality is the minority among Bama fans (as much as people refuse to accept that fact on here). The objectiveness of the Alabama fans who have posted thus far really shouldn't come as a surprise. Most of us are humbled by recent performances and have very realistic expectations.
My intention was to gauge the expectations. I am still curious what others think. The ones that I care to converse with all seem to have realistic expectations.
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 08:08 AM
I see no reason we can't compete for the West title this year. We would have even if Shula had remained.
I will point out that this contradicts what I've heard you say before regarding Shula, BamaPesterer.
BAMAPERRY
05-27-2007, 08:19 AM
No, it doesn't. I said Shula was NOT a good HC. He wasn't. But our Offense was going to me much better this year, regardless. And, quite frankly, if Shula would have fired the OL coach after last season, he'd probably still be there. I'm glad he didn't. We lost a lot of close road games last year because of poor coaching decisions. That won't happen this year and our tough games are at home.
MillDawg007
05-27-2007, 08:39 AM
Bama is confused at Running Back i know Wilson showed glimpses of being a solid QB and with those recievers he sure better be a solid qb..But my concern with BAMA is the Running Game...Last year was an exception and its going to be all on JPWs back to win games this season..Ive heard reports that Jimmy Johns is disappointing coaches so whos gonna carry the rock..If you throw 35 times a game your good line is going to be tested frequently.
BAMAPERRY
05-27-2007, 09:06 AM
Bama is confused at Running Back i know Wilson showed glimpses of being a solid QB and with those recievers he sure better be a solid qb..But my concern with BAMA is the Running Game...Last year was an exception and its going to be all on JPWs back to win games this season..Ive heard reports that Jimmy Johns is disappointing coaches so whos gonna carry the rock..If you throw 35 times a game your good line is going to be tested frequently.
that's probably because 4 of the 5 RB from last year were injured. And Johns, the 5th, is a converted QB. Darby played injured last year, and his Daddys illness and subsequent death during the seaon didn't help. Coffee, Upchurch, and Grant will all be back from RSing and Johns has another year under his belt, so we'll be better there. The biggest reason we'll be better in the running game is the OL and better conditioning.
crimsonnation713
05-27-2007, 09:55 AM
Bama is going to be a little above .500 this year hopefully I'll be surprised but who knows. I look at 3 or 4 years to start being a huge force in the SEC. I'm like Tim and just want a coach. Thats all. Someone who has the presence to make the players respect the game and know how to act like men and not idiots. I know that their somewhat still boys but they're on the verge of manhood so act like it. Curry was the last to have it and Paul jr. and Drummond ran him off.
BAMAPERRY
05-27-2007, 10:03 AM
Bama is going to be a little above .500 this year hopefully I'll be surprised but who knows. I look at 3 or 4 years to start being a huge force in the SEC. I'm like Tim and just want a coach. Thats all. Someone who has the presence to make the players respect the game and know how to act like men and not idiots. I know that their somewhat still boys but they're on the verge of manhood so act like it. Curry was the last to have it and Paul jr. and Drummond ran him off.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
azamugg
05-27-2007, 10:33 AM
We're just looking for a coach that isn't lost on the sideline that demands the players to be disciplined and conditioned with a purpose. With what we have been through the last few years and to finally get a coach with Saban's demanding attitude and work ethic is just what the doctor ordered. And that is why you see some excitement among Bama fans. Its not that we are expecting anything this year or next year, we're just thrilled that the light at the end of the tunnel is becoming visible. The first season is going to be tough and anything is possible, we could have six wins or we could have ten wins. Who knows really? It should be interesting.
Ditto.......
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 10:58 AM
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GeauxTo
05-27-2007, 12:53 PM
first year 8-9 wins, be competitive for the length of games
2nd year, compete for SEC west
3rd year, compete for SEC overall
4th year, compete for SEC again
5th year, be in NC talks at some point, while still competing in the SEC
not too bad i dont think
Very reasonable expectations, IMO. Aside from having excellent coaching from Saban and staff this year, your other bright spot might just be John Parker Wilson. He's the real deal; smart, talented, and a leader. He could make a difference, even this year.
We're just looking for a coach that isn't lost on the sideline that demands the players to be disciplined and conditioned with a purpose. With what we have been through the last few years and to finally get a coach with Saban's demanding attitude and work ethic is just what the doctor ordered. And that is why you see some excitement among Bama fans. Its not that we are expecting anything this year or next year, we're just thrilled that the light at the end of the tunnel is becoming visible. The first season is going to be tough and anything is possible, we could have six wins or we could have ten wins. Who knows really? It should be interesting.
Very good post. It makes the excitement at Bama very understandable. The "light at the end of the tunnel" is a very good way to put it. With the upgrade in coaching, it is easy to see how Bama fans are excited and how, really, it wouldn't be a stretch to see the Tide as low as 6 wins or as high as 10 wins. It is going to be an exciting season for the Bammers, and, for that matter, for the entire SEC, including even Vandy, Kentucky, and (gasp!), MSU.
Crimson Kicker8
05-27-2007, 01:00 PM
Very reasonable expectations, IMO. Aside from having excellent coaching from Saban and staff this year, your other bright spot might just be John Parker Wilson. He's the real deal; smart, talented, and a leader. He could make a difference, even this year.
Very good post. It makes the excitement at Bama very understandable. The "light at the end of the tunnel" is a very good way to put it. With the upgrade in coaching, it is easy to see how Bama fans are excited and how, really, it wouldn't be a stretch to see the Tide as low as 6 wins or as high as 10 wins. It is going to be an exciting season for the Bammers, and, for that matter, for the entire SEC, including even Vandy, Kentucky, and (gasp!), MSU.
Thank you Geaux. This is the most level-headed response about Bama fan's expectations for this season I've read so far. Bama may win 6, they may win 10, either way, we're just excited (if that translates to arrogance by some then they have some serious misinterpretation issues)
shk999
05-27-2007, 01:35 PM
I will point out that this contradicts what I've heard you say before regarding Shula, BamaPesterer.
Just for the record, Mike Dubose won the SEC at Bama and I dont think many folks consider him to be a good HC.
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 01:46 PM
Not what I was addressing...Perry has said a lot of things about Shula's inability to win games being the reason Bama has struggled. Not on this board, but another. Just pointing out he contradicts himself there. I mean we're talking about a guy who's username was "FeartheNicktator".
But on rivals it abreviated it in posts as fearthe...tator. Haha I forgot about that until just now.
BAMAPERRY
05-27-2007, 01:53 PM
Yeah, it's funny how other teams laughed at Shula and saw him as a sorry coach, until he gets fired. Then they talked about how he deserved another year and what bad circumstances he was in. Then Saban was hired and Shula grew by leaps and bounds in their eyes and Bama did him dirty. Yeah, right. Every fan in the SEC was sad to see Shula go, and it wasn't because he was a good coach. Conversely, every fan in the SEC is attacking Saban as a slimeball. Wonder why? :)
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 02:24 PM
Yeah, it's funny how other teams laughed at Shula and saw him as a sorry coach, until he gets fired. Then they talked about how he deserved another year and what bad circumstances he was in. Then Saban was hired and Shula grew by leaps and bounds in their eyes and Bama did him dirty. Yeah, right. Every fan in the SEC was sad to see Shula go, and it wasn't because he was a good coach. Conversely, every fan in the SEC is attacking Saban as a slimeball. Wonder why? :)
I, for one, thought it was his time to go. The manner by which he was let go wasn't ideal, but it was clearly time.
timNem
05-27-2007, 05:22 PM
Bama is going to be a little above .500 this year hopefully I'll be surprised but who knows. I look at 3 or 4 years to start being a huge force in the SEC. I'm like Tim and just want a coach. Thats all. Someone who has the presence to make the players respect the game and know how to act like men and not idiots. I know that their somewhat still boys but they're on the verge of manhood so act like it. Curry was the last to have it and Paul jr. and Drummond ran him off.Thats true. I don't really like Curry but he demanded discipline and respect from the players. I'll never forget what he did to Prince Wimbley at the '89 Sugar Bowl against Miami.
shk999
05-27-2007, 06:35 PM
Thats true. I don't really like Curry but he demanded discipline and respect from the players. I'll never forget what he did to Prince Wimbley at the '89 Sugar Bowl against Miami.
And I thought I was the only one here that remembered that.......:laugh:
I despise "showboating".........Bryant used to say "Act like you've been there before".
The Ramp
05-27-2007, 07:12 PM
Yeah, it's funny how other teams laughed at Shula and saw him as a sorry coach, until he gets fired. Then they talked about how he deserved another year and what bad circumstances he was in. Then Saban was hired and Shula grew by leaps and bounds in their eyes and Bama did him dirty. Yeah, right. Every fan in the SEC was sad to see Shula go, and it wasn't because he was a good coach. Conversely, every fan in the SEC is attacking Saban as a slimeball. Wonder why? :)
because he is a slimeball? nah...that can't be it. i forgot... the world is just jeolous of bama
jthomas666
05-27-2007, 07:45 PM
first year 8-9 wins, be competitive for the length of games
2nd year, compete for SEC west
3rd year, compete for SEC overall
4th year, compete for SEC again
5th year, be in NC talks at some point, while still competing in the SEC
not too bad i dont thinkWhat he said. I wouldn't be too surprised or upset if it took an extra year to get into a position to compete for the SEC West, simply because of the depth issues on defense.
thethird
05-27-2007, 08:12 PM
first year 8-9 wins, be competitive for the length of games
2nd year, compete for SEC west
3rd year, compete for SEC overall
4th year, compete for SEC again
5th year, be in NC talks at some point, while still competing in the SEC
not too bad i dont think
Those are reasonable expectations and ones that could very well happen. Now I'm not trying to start $hit just asking a simple question. Beating Auburn is a big part of keeping your job at Tuscaloosa, no argument there. What IF Saban is competing for the SEC by his second year and makes good progress each season but only beats Auburn once in four tries? What if he doesn't beat Auburn at all? Will he be sent packing?
jthomas666
05-27-2007, 08:21 PM
Those are reasonable expectations and ones that could very well happen. Now I'm not trying to start $hit just asking a simple question. Beating Auburn is a big part of keeping your job at Tuscaloosa, no argument there. What IF Saban is competing for the SEC by his second year and makes good progress each season but only beats Auburn once in four tries? What if he doesn't beat Auburn at all? Will he be sent packing?We'll worry about if we get there.
azamugg
05-27-2007, 08:48 PM
Those are reasonable expectations and ones that could very well happen. Now I'm not trying to start $hit just asking a simple question. Beating Auburn is a big part of keeping your job at Tuscaloosa, no argument there. What IF Saban is competing for the SEC by his second year and makes good progress each season but only beats Auburn once in four tries? What if he doesn't beat Auburn at all? Will he be sent packing?
(slap on both sides of face) you do realize we're just knucklehead fans, huh....right?
ask the BOT and the Pres that question
thethird
05-27-2007, 08:58 PM
We'll worry about if we get there.
(slap on both sides of face) you do realize we're just knucklehead fans, huh....right?
ask the BOT and the Pres that question
I didn't expect a straight forward answer.
azamugg
05-27-2007, 09:40 PM
I didn't expect a straight forward answer.
you may not wanna call mine "straight forward" but it is, by most, called "reality" which apparently you don't live in that dimension
timNem
05-27-2007, 09:49 PM
I didn't expect a straight forward answer.Hypothetical questions like the ones you asked are infinite. What if Saban comes in and loses to Tubb this year but wins the next five or six? Why are the questions limited to Bama and Nick Saban when any coach would be in the hot seat after losing 4 or 5 straight to their rival?
timNem
05-27-2007, 09:52 PM
you may not wanna call mine "straight forward" but it is, by most, called "reality" which apparently you don't live in that dimension
His dimensions are a 4'x4' padded room. :wacko:
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 09:54 PM
Those are reasonable expectations and ones that could very well happen. Now I'm not trying to start $hit just asking a simple question. Beating Auburn is a big part of keeping your job at Tuscaloosa, no argument there. What IF Saban is competing for the SEC by his second year and makes good progress each season but only beats Auburn once in four tries? What if he doesn't beat Auburn at all? Will he be sent packing?
I would say, hypothetical or not, it is a situation that invites addressing. And personally I think..uh...no. No offense 3rd, but there is more to coaching at Bama than just beating Auburn. What if Spurrier(heaven forbid) went 3 out of 4 at TN.(which he would almost have to do to be competing for the SEC, considering losing to Auburn once out of four. Or the opposite occurs. What's important is that he's winning enough games to compete. And that's the logic I expect to hear from the Bammer Nation.
shk999
05-27-2007, 10:03 PM
Hypothetical questions like the ones you asked are infinite. What if Saban comes in and loses to Tubb this year but wins the next five or six? Why are the questions limited to Bama and Nick Saban when any coach would be in the hot seat after losing 4 or 5 straight to their rival?
The question works both ways. What if Saban comes in and whips AU 4 or 5 times but AU stays at the top of the SEC. Do you think there will be another midnight flight?
shk999
05-27-2007, 10:09 PM
I would say, hypothetical or not, it is a situation that invites addressing. And personally I think..uh...no. No offense 3rd, but there is more to coaching at Bama than just beating Auburn. What if Spurrier(heaven forbid) went 3 out of 4 at TN.(which he would almost have to do to be competing for the SEC, considering losing to Auburn once out of four. Or the opposite occurs. What's important is that he's winning enough games to compete. And that's the logic I expect to hear from the Bammer Nation.
Thats the flaw in the whole question. Considering our schedule, if Bama competes for the SEC, we pretty much have to beat LSU, UT and AU. If you are losing to AU, its almost impossible to compete for the SEC. IMO
AU Blaaaaaaaake
05-27-2007, 10:14 PM
azamugg told me if Sabear didn't win the NC this coming season that he was going to start sodomizing his Aubie neighbor's dog.
shk999
05-27-2007, 10:22 PM
azamugg told me if Sabear didn't win the NC this coming season that he was going to start sodomizing his Aubie neighbor's dog.
Damn blake, puff puff give......:laugh:
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 10:26 PM
Damn blake, puff puff give......:laugh:Don't forget me.....Share the wealth.
thethird
05-27-2007, 11:03 PM
I would say, hypothetical or not, it is a situation that invites addressing. And personally I think..uh...no. No offense 3rd, but there is more to coaching at Bama than just beating Auburn. What if Spurrier(heaven forbid) went 3 out of 4 at TN.(which he would almost have to do to be competing for the SEC, considering losing to Auburn once out of four. Or the opposite occurs. What's important is that he's winning enough games to compete. And that's the logic I expect to hear from the Bammer Nation.
Your right, there is more to coaching Bama than just beating Auburn. Shula couldn't beat Auburn but there are other reasons to why he was fired. BUT, let's say he beats Auburn last November. Would that have saved his job? I think it's fair to say that it possibly could have.
Playing in the SEC you cannot put everything into one game but in the state of Alabama, that one day in November is marked on everyones calender. I'm just trying to get opinions on the good possibility of Saban not having success against Auburn and how the Tide nation would react even if he is doing "okay" against other yearly opponents?
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 11:07 PM
Those are reasonable expectations and ones that could very well happen. Now I'm not trying to start $hit just asking a simple question. Beating Auburn is a big part of keeping your job at Tuscaloosa, no argument there. What IF Saban is competing for the SEC by his second year and makes good progress each season but only beats Auburn once in four tries? What if he doesn't beat Auburn at all? Will he be sent packing?
Honestly, I'm too buzzed at the moment to have this conversation.:alcohol: whew...what a night.
thethird
05-27-2007, 11:10 PM
Honestly, I'm too buzzed at the moment to have this conversation.:alcohol: whew...what a night.
Drunk on shk's bull$hit?
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 11:22 PM
No, actually got trashed drinking wine watching the nascar race. (Is that an oxymoron?) If not it's damn sure a rarity.
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 11:24 PM
An getting my butt kicked in Madden by some 8-year old in Canada...
thethird
05-27-2007, 11:49 PM
:offtopic:
I guess it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks of Saban considering at any time he wants, he can get up and leave. We all know Saban hates the press but the press in Alabama is like no other. Should be interesting how he handles the media and ALA's expectations to WIN AND WIN NOW.
I wonder what Saban's wife was thinking when the drunken women gave Saban a good luck kiss. She's probably already ready to leave.
UA0509
05-27-2007, 11:54 PM
i almost think the whole firing of shula was probably decided a few hours after the miss. state game
thethird
05-27-2007, 11:55 PM
i almost think the whole firing of shula was probably decided a few hours after the miss. state game
I almost think that Shula was just a temporary coach just to get them over the probation years.
timNem
05-27-2007, 11:56 PM
I almost think that Shula was just a temporary coach just to get them over the probation years.I think you are correct.:thumpsup:
Sabanocchio
05-27-2007, 11:57 PM
Now I'm reaally confused.
Your post is different than the one I quoted.FWIW, I think we all know what reaction the Bama fans would have given a so-so job at Bama. Probably the same one I would have if someone replace Fulmer and lost to Bama three times in a row.
timNem
05-28-2007, 12:01 AM
azamugg told me if Sabear didn't win the NC this coming season that he was going to start sodomizing his Aubie neighbor's dog.:laugh: He said that was going to be the warmup round before he makes a booty call to Auburn to see you.
thethird
05-28-2007, 12:01 AM
I think you are correct.:thumpsup:
Don't agree with me, I don't like that. LOL, J/K
thethird
05-28-2007, 12:04 AM
Now I'm reaally confused.
Your post is different than the one I quoted.FWIW, I think we all know what reaction the Bama fans would have given a so-so job at Bama. Probably the same one I would have if someone replace Fulmer and lost to Bama three times in a row.
So in other words, at Alabama if you don't beat Auburn (even though its not the only game), you won't be around.
AUFootball24
05-28-2007, 12:12 AM
first year 8-9 wins, be competitive for the length of games
2nd year, compete for SEC west
3rd year, compete for SEC overall
4th year, compete for SEC again
5th year, be in NC talks at some point, while still competing in the SEC
not too bad i dont think
(sorry if this has already been said. I'm quoting the 2nd post in the thread, haven't read the rest)
I think IF Saban is going to compete for a national championship, it will happen on something similar to that time frame, but I certainly don't think there is a 100% chance that he will compete for a MNC.
thethird
05-28-2007, 12:21 AM
but I certainly don't think there is a 100% chance that he will compete for a MNC.
Last time I checked, no coach has a "100%" chance to do anything.
Sabanocchio
05-28-2007, 01:05 AM
So in other words, at Alabama if you don't beat Auburn (even though its not the only game), you won't be around. Maybe so. I guess a Bama fan would be better to answer that question. I think as long as he fields competetive teams, he will continue to fulfill his contract. I don't think you fire a Nick Saban that gets the team back to winning 8,9, or 10 games on a consistent basis, who are you gonna get that would do a better job? On the other hand, we are talking about Bama (where expectations are high) and anything is possible.
UA0509
05-28-2007, 01:28 AM
(sorry if this has already been said. I'm quoting the 2nd post in the thread, haven't read the rest)
I think IF Saban is going to compete for a national championship, it will happen on something similar to that time frame, but I certainly don't think there is a 100% chance that he will compete for a MNC.
i'm meaning, at least be in the NC talks at some point during the season, which would mean competing for it. such as having a good start to the season, or have enough good recruits and depth to make a good run
azamugg
05-28-2007, 03:27 AM
:laugh: He said that was going to be the warmup round before he makes a booty call to Auburn to see you.
damn Tim, you read my mind........call me crazy but his name does sound like a sheep........Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaake
UA0509
05-28-2007, 11:24 AM
An getting my butt kicked in Madden by some 8-year old in Canada...
i missed this post last night
what was the final score:laugh:
crimsonnation713
05-28-2007, 02:37 PM
No, actually got trashed drinking wine watching the nascar race. (Is that an oxymoron?) If not it's damn sure a rarity.
The only way its right , it has to be ripple or boonesfarm.
jthomas666
05-28-2007, 02:37 PM
:offtopic:
I guess it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks of Saban considering at any time he wants, he can get up and leave. We all know Saban hates the press but the press in Alabama is like no other. Should be interesting how he handles the media and ALA's expectations to WIN AND WIN NOW.
I wonder what Saban's wife was thinking when the drunken women gave Saban a good luck kiss. She's probably already ready to leave.To paraphrase Shakespeare, that which we would call a troll by any other name would smell as rank.
thethird
05-28-2007, 04:55 PM
To paraphrase Shakespeare, that which we would call a troll by any other name would smell as rank.
Awesome literature JT! You truely have a gift. I like how you refer to me as a troll when your only response to my Saban bashing is a short piece from your Shakespeare B.S. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:glare:
Sabanocchio
05-28-2007, 08:17 PM
i missed this post last night
what was the final score:laugh:
I actually went for it on 4th and 22 and threw a touchdown to go up by 4 at halftime...guess my buzz wore off cuz Phillip Rivers and LT dominated the second half. Don't remem. the final but I won by a TD and some!
The only way its right , it has to be ripple or boonesfarm.
Nope, Ecco Domini Pino Grigiot. Just because I like Nascar doesn't make me a redneck! Boones farm is for girlie men.
shk999
05-28-2007, 08:49 PM
Just because I like Nascar doesn't make me a redneck!
Im sure we can agree that its not just because you like Nascar. :ohmy: :laugh:
Sabanocchio
05-28-2007, 08:52 PM
:laugh: Don't have a redneck bone in my body. (thankfully) Nascar is as redneck as it gets for me.
HitYourStride!
05-28-2007, 08:52 PM
I like that picture Sabanocchio has as his signature, It looks like Fat Phill is reaching out to eat Peyton like he's a patato chip or something.
shk999
05-28-2007, 08:56 PM
I like that picture Sabanocchio has as his signature, It looks like Fat Phill is reaching out to eat Peyton like he's a patato chip or something.
LMAO. I hadnt noticed that. Look at the way he is so focused, like Peyton is the last chicken leg on the table at sunday dinner. :laugh:
Sabanocchio
05-28-2007, 08:58 PM
He's trying to use his magic touch to make Peyton the greatest QB to ever play the game. Luckily Cutcliffe stepped in and put a stop to it.
shk999
05-28-2007, 08:59 PM
:laugh: Don't have a redneck bone in my body. (thankfully) Nascar is as redneck as it gets for me.
LOL. JK, the last Talladega was the first one I have missed since Dale Sr was alive. :thumpsup:
HitYourStride!
05-28-2007, 09:01 PM
LMAO. I hadnt noticed that. Look at the way he is so focused, like Peyton is the last chicken leg on the table at sunday dinner. :laugh:
LOL Dibs on the drumstick!!!
HitYourStride!
05-28-2007, 09:02 PM
He's trying to use his magic touch to make Peyton the greatest QB to ever play the game. Luckily Cutcliffe stepped in and put a stop to it.
good rebound!!:thumpsup:
shk999
05-28-2007, 09:03 PM
He's trying to use his magic touch to make Peyton the greatest QB to ever play the game. Luckily Cutcliffe stepped in and put a stop to it.
Funniest thing I have heard all day! :laugh:
HitYourStride!
05-28-2007, 09:25 PM
ahaha check out what I found!!
thethird
05-28-2007, 09:51 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~coachdoug1/phatphil.jpg
Sabanocchio
05-28-2007, 09:56 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~coachdoug1/phatphil.jpg
What? The Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man's name is Phil?
What a bizarre coincidence!!! That's our coach's name!
HitYourStride!
05-28-2007, 10:40 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~coachdoug1/phatphil.jpg
I LOVE IT AHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
thethird
05-28-2007, 10:48 PM
What? The Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man's name is Phil?
What a bizarre coincidence!!! That's our coach's name!
Sorry occh, been wanting to use that one for a while. Don't take it personal though, I'm on your side. Fat Phil is a big part of the reason why Alabama has been down. I root for the Vols every time they play Alabama. :thumpsup: I'm sure this comes as a shocker to the rest of you.
Sabanocchio
05-28-2007, 10:57 PM
Sorry occh, been wanting to use that one for a while. Don't take it personal though, I'm on your side. Fat Phil is a big part of the reason why Alabama has been down. I root for the Vols every time they play Alabama. :thumpsup: I'm sure this comes as a shocker to the rest of you.
None taken. I enjoy seeing the different incarnations people come up with of "Phat Phil". Not many of them are particullarly funny though. The one with him chasing down the bucket of KFC was the funniest I have seen.
The Ramp
05-28-2007, 11:00 PM
None taken. I enjoy seeing the different incarnations people come up with of "Phat Phil". Not many of them are particullarly funny though. The one with him chasing down the bucket of KFC was the funniest I have seen.
i gotta go with the krisy kreme residue all over his face and the empty bucket to boot
Sabanocchio
05-28-2007, 11:19 PM
i gotta go with the krisy kreme residue all over his face and the empty bucket to boot
Don't think I've seen that one. Or maybe I just blocked it out:smile:
timNem
05-28-2007, 11:34 PM
Fat Phil is a big part of the reason why Alabama has been down. True that..
Sabanocchio
05-28-2007, 11:42 PM
True that..I think 3rd was referring to his coaching prowess, T. Not of his role as the mole of the NCAA rules committee.
Rebel Chuck
05-29-2007, 03:24 AM
No flaming here, I give my word. What timeline do Bama fans put on the expectations of Nick Saban? ex: first year -9 wins, second year make it to the SECC, third BCS bowl so on and so forth. I really want to know because all I've been familiar with is the radicals that think he is going to step in and win immediately.
I expect Ole Miss to...
2007- go bowling (beat LSU)
2008- win 8 or more games (Jevan Snead is good)(beat LSU)
2009- compete for the West (beat LSU)
2010- Win the West (beat LSU)
2011- Compete for SEC, West (beat LSU)
2012- Start the Title talk (beat LSU)
BAMAPERRY
05-29-2007, 03:34 AM
I expect Ole Miss to...
2007- go bowling (beat LSU)
2008- win 8 or more games (Jevan Snead is good)(beat LSU)
2009- compete for the West (beat LSU)
2010- Win the West (beat LSU)
2011- Compete for SEC, West (beat LSU)
2012- Start the Title talk (beat LSU)
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Rebel Chuck
05-29-2007, 03:45 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Yeah you're going to eat that on Oct.13th when we roll your ass up in Oxford
:box:
Sabanocchio
05-29-2007, 04:00 AM
Nice:thumpsup:
BAMAPERRY
05-29-2007, 05:27 AM
Yeah you're going to eat that on Oct.13th when we roll your ass up in Oxford
:box:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
SavageOrangeJug
05-29-2007, 07:46 AM
1st year - Beat Tennessee
2nd year - Beat Tennessee and Auburn
3rd year - Beat Tennessee, Auburn, and an SEC school to be named later.
4th year - Find a new coach
Sabanocchio
05-29-2007, 08:03 AM
1st year - Beat Tennessee
2nd year - Beat Tennessee and Auburn
3rd year - Beat Tennessee, Auburn, and an SEC school to be named later.
4th year - Find a new coach
:laugh: :uglyhamme :thumpsup:
The Ramp
05-29-2007, 08:44 AM
I expect Ole Miss to...
2007- go bowling (beat LSU)
2008- win 8 or more games (Jevan Snead is good)(beat LSU)
2009- compete for the West (beat LSU)
2010- Win the West (beat LSU)
2011- Compete for SEC, West (beat LSU)
2012- Start the Title talk (beat LSU)
rebel chuck always gives me a good laugh...thanks for making my day
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
AtlantaBama
05-29-2007, 09:06 AM
You obviously have not talked to the same people I have. I have not met one person that realistically thinks Saban will step in and win big quickly. It will take several years to clean house and establish recruiting and so forth. I think Saban competing for the SEC year in and year out (with some exceptions of course) within 3 years is not too hard to comprehend. He has much more talent at UA then he had his first year at LSU.
The Ramp
05-29-2007, 09:20 AM
You obviously have not talked to the same people I have. I have not met one person that realistically thinks Saban will step in and win big quickly. It will take several years to clean house and establish recruiting and so forth. I think Saban competing for the SEC year in and year out (with some exceptions of course) within 3 years is not too hard to comprehend. He has much more talent at UA then he had his first year at LSU.
i dunno. a lot of NFL talent came out of DiNardo's last recruiting classes. we'll see...
Sabanocchio
05-29-2007, 09:23 AM
He has much more talent at UA then he had his first year at LSU.That's not saying a whole lot!
UA0509
05-29-2007, 09:43 AM
well, for this year, the good news is, most of our offense is returning. with probably upgrades at RB as well as RT (since capps is still hurt). since saban is a defensive minded coach, he'll be working with the defense personally until its where he wants it to be. so i'm thinking we will upset a few people this year. S&C under saban will obviously be better
jthomas666
05-29-2007, 11:58 AM
He's trying to use his magic touch to make Peyton the greatest QB to ever play the game. Luckily Cutcliffe stepped in and put a stop to it.Naw, Phil thinks that football is a chocolate covered creme-filled donut.
SavageOrangeJug
05-29-2007, 12:38 PM
Naw, Phil thinks that football is a chocolate covered creme-filled donut.
Yep! They make great desserts.....after you've eaten a crimson elephant for lunch.
Rebel Chuck
05-30-2007, 12:13 AM
rebel chuck always gives me a good laugh...thanks for making my day
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
The last laugh will belong to the Rebs on Nov.17th
:angry:
The Ramp
05-30-2007, 08:43 AM
The last laugh will belong to the Rebs on Nov.17th
:angry:
i've heard this for how many years now?:laugh:
Rebel Chuck
05-31-2007, 12:29 AM
i've heard this for how many years now?:laugh:
6 :brick: :brick: :brick:
the hobo
06-01-2007, 03:49 PM
expectation - nick saban to walk on water, end hunger in africa, world peace
reality - 7-5 with a side of probation
The Ramp
06-01-2007, 03:50 PM
expectation - nick saban to walk on water, end hunger in africa, world peace
reality - 7-5 with a side of probation
i heard he can also cure paris hilton's STDs
jthomas666
06-01-2007, 04:10 PM
i heard he can also cure paris hilton's STDs
Let's not get carried away . . . even Saban has his limits. ;)
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