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Rich Brooks
03-25-2007, 12:00 AM
1. Kentucky
2. Who cares?
The Architect
03-25-2007, 12:10 AM
Look dude, you exist. We are aware. You don't need to keep looking for validation of your existence. Please join the rest of us in intelligent banter. I suspect you are capable. You're obviously resourceful in that you continue to return after getting banned various times.
Rich Brooks
03-25-2007, 12:12 AM
Richmond huh? They got that new Target built yet?
Little known fact but Rich Brooks(not the coach of course) actually went to EKU for 3 semesters
The Architect
03-25-2007, 12:15 AM
cool. Yeah, been here all my life.
I posted something similar in another thread.....must be getting sleepy, sorry.
The Architect
03-25-2007, 12:16 AM
No target yet, but the development was approved recently.
Rich Brooks
03-25-2007, 12:17 AM
Sweeeet. I was in Richmond a couple weeks ago and saw the new White Castle you guys have by Walmart, would've stopped by the line through the Drive thru was rediculous
The Architect
03-25-2007, 12:21 AM
Opened Sunday before last, I think. You probably saw it then. Yeah, I heard it was packed that day. I don't really get the attraction. I went to Eastern for a year before transferring to UK and, while there, knew guys that would party downtown and then trek over to White Castle in Lex for some sliders. Crazy. You'd a thought A WC would have been in Richmond years ago with the college crowd handy.
Rich Brooks
03-25-2007, 12:23 AM
Well they already have that Krystal's that gets everyone sicks, I dont think I've ever seen a town that had a Krystals and a WC together since they're essentially the same thing
The Architect
03-25-2007, 12:26 AM
Yep. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Krystals will prolly fold.
As for actually ranking the SEC. I think it'll be this:
East
1. UF
2. UT
3. UGA
4. USC
5. UK
6. Vandy
West
1. LSU
2. Auburn
3. Arkansas
4. Alabama
5. MSU
6. UM
AUChamps
03-25-2007, 12:52 AM
WHOA. Architect, I don't know what you did but thank you. You're making Rich Brooks have civilized conversation on here. Keep it up please, you're like the guy with the taser to control the crazy guy.
Rich Brooks
03-25-2007, 12:59 AM
WHOA. Architect, I don't know what you did but thank you. You're making Rich Brooks have civilized conversation on here. Keep it up please, you're like the guy with the taser to control the crazy guy.
:wacko: :stupid:
The Architect
03-25-2007, 01:07 AM
WHOA. Architect, I don't know what you did but thank you. You're making Rich Brooks have civilized conversation on here. Keep it up please, you're like the guy with the taser to control the crazy guy.
I not "making" him do anything. Just trying to show respect to anyone/everyone. I try to be that way as much as possible.
AUChamps
03-25-2007, 01:19 AM
I not "making" him do anything. Just trying to show respect to anyone/everyone. I try to be that way as much as possible.
Well I think it's only because you're a fellow UK fan. See, us fans can't "make" anyone act a certain way short of banning them(Chris, Neo are you listening?) No but really just be smart on here and everyone will be good.
WHOA. Architect, I don't know what you did but thank you. You're making Rich Brooks have civilized conversation on here. Keep it up please, you're like the guy with the taser to control the crazy guy.LOL, thats too funny!
QC_Dawg
03-25-2007, 10:37 AM
Am I the only one who sees his "civilized conversation" as a joke? I've never been to Richmond, but it seems like he's trying to insult by acting like the Target and WC are the main draws in town.
Don't give Brooks too much credit
Rich Brooks
03-25-2007, 10:54 AM
Am I the only one who sees his "civilized conversation" as a joke? I've never been to Richmond, but it seems like he's trying to insult by acting like the Target and WC are the main draws in town.
Don't give Brooks too much credit
:stupid: I lived in Richmond when going to EKU there, trust me WC and Target ARE big things, if they had that when I went there it wouldve been so much better. Richmond isnt that big of a town, all they pretty much have is a Walmart, a mall that is just horrible and half empty and a indoor flea market that has the same things in it now that they did five years ago. I'm not trying to insult the town, I just think it's awesome that it's growing. If it had as much now as it did when I lived there my experience would have been alot better cause there is just a tad more to do.
lacene
03-25-2007, 10:59 AM
Am I the only one who sees his "civilized conversation" as a joke? I've never been to Richmond, but it seems like he's trying to insult by acting like the Target and WC are the main draws in town.
Don't give Brooks too much credit
how can we possibly do that? He's head coach of Kentucky's football team......
Rich Brooks
03-25-2007, 10:59 AM
<--- >>>> You
lacene
03-25-2007, 11:02 AM
<--- >>>> You
go eat a Krystal burger!:angry:
Rich Brooks
03-25-2007, 11:16 AM
I think I will, they are awesome
gatorunvrsty
03-25-2007, 11:23 AM
go eat a Krystal burger!:angry:
Krystal makes burgers?:happy: I'm not sure they're actually beef. Not bad at 3:00 A.M. after tying one on, though.
lacene: Bich Rooks clearly can't be characterized as witty; so, I feel like it's almost a waste of good material, if I use any on him. But, he is an easy target; and putting him in his place is a pretty simple task. Have fun with it.:laugh:
Crimson Kicker8
03-25-2007, 03:14 PM
Richmond huh? They got that new Target built yet?
Little known fact but Rich Brooks(not the coach of course) actually went to EKU for 3 semesters
This guy did a four year stretch at Berea, Richmond was our closest source for clubs and alcohol.
Rich Brooks
03-25-2007, 03:24 PM
Let me guess, Hurricanes
Crimson Kicker8
03-25-2007, 03:59 PM
Let me guess, Hurricanes
Nah, our standards weren't that high, we spent most of our time at Sutter's, or as it was affectionately called, add an L in there.
The Architect
03-26-2007, 09:42 PM
Nah, our standards weren't that high, we spent most of our time at Sutter's, or as it was affectionately called, add an L in there.
Most of the old school dives are gone, Tazwells, Sutters, The Dog, TBombs.....basically every place you ever might have gone on a Thursday night. I'm kinda glad, since I have duaghters growing up in this town.:thumpsup: There's a few joints downtown, but not nearly like it was in the 80s and 90s.
vandyfan84
03-27-2007, 11:28 AM
back ON topic...
here are my rankings...
SEC East
1. UF
2. UT
3. UGA
4. VU
5. USC
6. UK
SEC West
1. Ark. (Darren McFadden too much to handle)
2. LSU
3. Auburn
4. 'Bama
5. UM
6. MSU
Discus
lacene
03-27-2007, 12:02 PM
[QUOTE=vandyfan84;214599]back ON topic...
here are my rankings...
SEC East
1. UF
2. UT
3. UGA
4. VU
5. USC
6. UK
Discus[/QUOTE
:coffeedri :icon_rofl:rolling2: :yelrotflm
seriously, I see the East as being a very competitive division next season, and conceivably it could produce no less than 6 bowl-eligible teams. However, I see Vandy with too many question marks to move past both UK and USC. I agree with the top 3 teams and their order. After that it should be USC, KY, then VU. If the Gamecocks improve enough at the O-line and defensively like the early reports are indicating, and we get a break or two here or there, the top 3 positions could change, as well.... :)
vandyfan84
03-27-2007, 09:42 PM
[QUOTE=vandyfan84;214599]back ON topic...
here are my rankings...
SEC East
1. UF
2. UT
3. UGA
4. VU
5. USC
6. UK
Discus[/QUOTE
:coffeedri :icon_rofl:rolling2: :yelrotflm
seriously, I see the East as being a very competitive division next season, and conceivably it could produce no less than 6 bowl-eligible teams. However, I see Vandy with too many question marks to move past both UK and USC. I agree with the top 3 teams and their order. After that it should be USC, KY, then VU. If the Gamecocks improve enough at the O-line and defensively like the early reports are indicating, and we get a break or two here or there, the top 3 positions could change, as well.... :)
you have your opinion, I have mine. And I respect that
carolinaken
03-28-2007, 05:29 PM
My picks
EAST
1.UF
2.USC
3.UT
4.UGA
5.UK
6.UV
WEST
1.LSU
2.ARK
3.AUB
4.BAMA
5.MSU
6.OM
Ralliartist
03-29-2007, 01:00 PM
I'm not trying to be biased, just being honest:
My picks:
EAST
1.USC
2.UT
3.UF
4.UK
5.UGA
6.UV
West
1.LSU
2.AUB
3.OM
4.ARK
5.BAMA
6.MSU
azamugg
03-29-2007, 01:38 PM
I'm not trying to be biased, just being honest:
My picks:
EAST
1.USC
2.UT
3.UF
4.UGA
5.UK
6.UV
West
1.LSU
2.AUB
3.ARK
4.BAMA
5.OM
6.MSU
well you have very biased honesty
gatorunvrsty
03-29-2007, 01:41 PM
I'm not trying to be biased, just being honest:
My picks:
EAST
1.USC
2.UT
3.UF
4.UGA
5.UK
6.UV
West
1.LSU
2.AUB
3.ARK
4.BAMA
5.OM
6.MSU
:laugh: Thanks for your unbiased, honest opinion. But, honestly, a truly unbiased person would probably wait until their team had actually won the East at least once before claiming they'd do it again. Just my honest, unbiased opinion.:laugh:
vandyfan84
03-31-2007, 05:06 PM
:laugh: Thanks for your unbiased, honest opinion. But, honestly, a truly unbiased person would probably wait until their team had actually won the East at least once before claiming they'd do it again. Just my honest, unbiased opinion.:laugh:
I agree...
but can someone answer me this, in a non-smartass way. Why does everyone see Vandy as going backwards? Everyone and their momma has us finishing dead last once again.
Cianne
03-31-2007, 05:11 PM
but can someone answer me this, in a non-smartass way. Why does everyone see Vandy as going backwards? Everyone and their momma has us finishing dead last once again.
I don't think anyone is necessarily seeing Vanderbilt as going backwards. It is more along the lines of everyone just improving more than Vanderbilt is. With Kentucky actually playing decent ball, it unfortunately leaves the Commodores in last.
vandyfan84
03-31-2007, 05:28 PM
I don't think anyone is necessarily seeing Vanderbilt as going backwards. It is more along the lines of everyone just improving more than Vanderbilt is. With Kentucky actually playing decent ball, it unfortunately leaves the Commodores in last.
this saddens me, :sad:
maybe we can shock some people
muttley1211
03-31-2007, 09:54 PM
I'm not trying to be biased, just being honest:
My picks:
EAST
1.USC
2.UT
3.UF
4.UGA
5.UK
6.UV
West
1.LSU
2.AUB
3.ARK
4.BAMA
5.OM
6.MSU
HAHA.... gotta love Carolina fans
Crimson Kicker8
03-31-2007, 10:50 PM
And to think, this thread was started by Rich Brooks. How it has matured. I'll play along.
EAST
1. UT
2. UF
3. USC
4. UGA
5. UK
6. VANDY
WEST
1. LSU
2. AUB
3. ALA
4. ARK
5. MSU
6. O'M
OK, in the East, no disrespect intended for Florida or Georgia but the SEC is pretty good at shaking things up every year. I don't think the standard UF, UT, UGA finish will happen. It will be interresting to see Tebow take all of the snaps this year, I think D's will be able to key on him enough to limit his mobility. If Ainge stays healthy I think he brings the Vols (as much as I hate to admit it) back to the top. Spurrier comes in his 3rd year as coach for the Gamecocks and if there is one certainty in college sports, it's don't count out the ole' ball coach. USC was a few points away from winning some big SEC games last year. UGA is still a solid club though, and they very well may prove me wrong putting them that low. Kentucky edges Vandy for the number 5 spot.
In the West, LSU is still my frontrunner. Auburn is a close second. I know McFadden is a beast but I think the off-season drama for Arky coupled with Bama's new coaching direction gives the Tide a very slight edge. As with Georgia, Arkansas may very well prove me wrong. I think Sly Croom gets MSU on track enough to keep them out of the gutter, sorry Rebel fans.
GillVol
04-02-2007, 09:58 AM
I think I like crimsonKicker8`s alittle better than Ralliartist. Hopefully it will be a little more realistic.. No I think the east is going to be brutal. I believe Fla. Tenn and Ga. will battle it out for the top spot but like one Carolina fan said. with a little luck with a bounce or two their way they could even sneak in there.
It is going to be an exciting year. I can`t wait. I willbe back and give you my actual rundown .
azamugg
04-02-2007, 01:01 PM
yall know I don't pick on Auburn but I think they're gonna struggle a little offensively, at least at first....not sure Dunlap is enough to rely on w/that offensive line departing and your best receivers......I know Rodriguez is okay but still..............you definitely have the hoss's in the backfield but does the OL woes cancel that out?
azamugg
04-02-2007, 01:03 PM
this saddens me, :sad:
maybe we can shock some people
well you definitely have a good coach on your hands and Earl the Pearl
help us out w/your Vandy insight, what are some strenghts on your team and some personnel we should look out for
WarEagle73
04-02-2007, 02:12 PM
yall know I don't pick on Auburn but I think they're gonna struggle a little offensively, at least at first....not sure Dunlap is enough to rely on w/that offensive line departing and your best receivers......I know Rodriguez is okay but still..............you definitely have the hoss's in the backfield but does the OL woes cancel that out?
You could be right. Looking at it through my Orange & blue sunglasses I'm hoping our O-line performs up to snuff. I think if they do that we'll have a good (maybe great) year. The down side is that even with good line play we've still got a really tough row to hoe with trips to Death Valley, Arkansas and the Swamp. Yes wo do play Georgia in Athens but for some stange reason we own that place like they own Jordan Hare most of the time.
Bulldog Bry
04-02-2007, 03:08 PM
Yes wo do play Georgia in Athens but for some stange reason we own that place like they own Jordan Hare most of the time.
That's the only thing that sucks about UGA/Aub. You look at your schedule, see a home game and think, "Hell, yi-yah, an SEC home game..........aw crap it's Auburn."
WarEagle73
04-02-2007, 03:26 PM
That's the only thing that sucks about UGA/Aub. You look at your schedule, see a home game and think, "Hell, yi-yah, an SEC home game..........aw crap it's Auburn."
I feel your pain. but I will say that I really enjoy the Auburn Georgia game each time we get together. I always notice that you never see a group of just Auburn or just Georgia fans tailgating by themselves. It's always a group made up of both and everyone is having a good time no matter who won. There are always a few bad apples on both sides as there is with every team but I must say our rivalry has to be one of the amicable in the country.
GvilleDave
04-02-2007, 04:05 PM
Kentucky, Who cares?
I think RichBrooks finally got one right! LOL:laugh:
GvilleDave
04-02-2007, 04:09 PM
East:
1. Florida
2. UGA
3. Tenn.
4. USCe
5. Ken.
6. Vandy
West:
1. LSU
2. Auburn
3. Ark.
4. UAT
5. Ole Miss
6. MSU
Ralliartist
04-02-2007, 04:10 PM
well, my honest opinion is basically that we lost very few starters from last year. We gained what we lacked from last year (a very nice Defensive front) and the offense is in its 3rd year under spurrier. I can't believe you guys don't have us picked at least 2nd. Those close games that we lost last year won't happen this year. we are even more experienced and now we have a defense that can make the difference in those 7 point or fewer games. I'm telling you, We will be in Atlanta.
My picks:
EAST
1.UGA
2.UT
3.UF
4.UK
5.USC
6.UV
West
1.AUB
2.BAMA
3.LSU
4.ARK
5.OM
6.MSU
WarEagle73
04-02-2007, 04:30 PM
My picks:
EAST
1.UGA
2.UT
3.UF
4.UK
5.USC
6.UV
West
1.AUB
2.BAMA
3.LSU
4.ARK
5.OM
6.MSU
hope your right on the West! :thumpsup:
GeauxTo
04-02-2007, 07:18 PM
hope your right on the West! :thumpsup:
Oh, I'm sure he is!
:laugh:
Ralliartist
04-02-2007, 10:45 PM
My picks:
EAST
1.UGA
2.UT
3.UF
4.UK
5.USC
6.UV
West
1.AUB
2.BAMA
3.LSU
4.ARK
5.OM
6.MSU
wow dude, I understand that this is your personal opinion. So I don't won't to offend you. But how the hell do you have USC finishing 5th in the East? LSU finishing 3rd in the WEST? and BAMA finishing 2nd in the WEST? and UGA winning the EAST?
Here's my points, UGA has a sophomore QB still learning, plus they are coming off of a rocky year last year with losses to UK and UV. I've already explained my point on USC so no need to repeat myself. BAMA is having a "rebuild" year during their first year under SABAN. and LSU only has a QB delimma, but definitely the most potential to win the WEST seeing as both of their QB's that are fighting to be starters are really good. I just want to hear your logic.
The Architect
04-02-2007, 11:52 PM
wow dude, I understand that this is your personal opinion. So I don't won't to offend you. But how the hell do you have USC finishing 5th in the East? LSU finishing 3rd in the WEST? and BAMA finishing 2nd in the WEST? and UGA winning the EAST?
Here's my points, UGA has a sophomore QB still learning, plus they are coming off of a rocky year last year with losses to UK and UV. I've already explained my point on USC so no need to repeat myself. BAMA is having a "rebuild" year during their first year under SABAN. and LSU only has a QB delimma, but definitely the most potential to win the WEST seeing as both of their QB's that are fighting to be starters are really good. I just want to hear your logic.
I got this one :thumpsup: .....(not that UKat needs any help). He picks USC 5th by placing the number 5 followed by a period out to the left of the abbreviation U, S, C. LSU is picked 3rd by preceeding the letters L, S, and U with the number 3 and a period. This process is repeated several other times to locate other abbreviated institutions of higher learning into their respective places of "footballness". The level of football worth is inversely proportional to the number to the left of the abbreviated institution. The lower the number the "better" the school's football status. It's quite simple really!
Sorry dude, couldn't resist!! :laugh:
Ralliartist
04-03-2007, 09:39 AM
well, UK finishing ahead of USC is laughable as well as USC not finishing at least 2nd. You guys obviously are more biased than I am.
Bulldog Bry
04-03-2007, 11:44 AM
Here's my points, UGA has a sophomore QB still learning, plus they are coming off of a rocky year last year with losses to UK and UV. I've already explained my point on USC so no need to repeat myself. BAMA is having a "rebuild" year during their first year under SABAN. and LSU only has a QB delimma, but definitely the most potential to win the WEST seeing as both of their QB's that are fighting to be starters are really good. I just want to hear your logic.
And losses to Ky and Vandy in 2006 have exactly WHAT to do with 2007?
BamaMatt
04-03-2007, 11:52 AM
well, UK finishing ahead of USC is laughable as well as USC not finishing at least 2nd. You guys obviously are more biased than I am.
"Your bias is obviously more biased than my bias is."
Ralliartist
04-03-2007, 01:01 PM
And losses to Ky and Vandy in 2006 have exactly WHAT to do with 2007?
You guys lost some key players but are gaining experience. Lets just say I don't think you guys will be quite powerhouse that you are used to being just yet. I think next year will be the dawgs' year.
Ralliartist
04-03-2007, 01:02 PM
"Your bias is obviously more biased than my bias is."
what ground do you have to stand on? 6-7?
nooneLT
04-03-2007, 01:16 PM
what ground do you have to stand on? 6-7?
the fact we have our core offense back.
the fact that we'll be able to be competitive during the 4th quarter.
the fact that shula's no longer coaching?
not saying we'll win the west (i doubt it), but we'll be much more competitive this year and won't roll over during the 4th quarter. also look for our new coaches will actually utilize our strengths on offense and our red zone offense will improve.
Bulldog Bry
04-03-2007, 01:47 PM
You guys lost some key players but are gaining experience. Lets just say I don't think you guys will be quite powerhouse that you are used to being just yet. I think next year will be the dawgs' year.
So your answer is "it has nothing to do with losses to Vandy and UK in 2006". Thanks.
vandyfan84
04-03-2007, 04:11 PM
well you definitely have a good coach on your hands and Earl the Pearl
help us out w/your Vandy insight, what are some strenghts on your team and some personnel we should look out for
The strength of our team is going to be our defense and our linebacking core. With both Johnathon Goff(who should be an All SEC first team pick IMO) returns as well as Kevin Joyce(I believe, I can't remember if he was a sr.) The defensive backfield will be led by Kelchi Ohanaja(I cant spell his freaking name, but you all know who I am talking about)
well will have the best offensive line we have had in years, which should give Chris Nickson. Our wide receiving core will be strong as well, Earl Bennett leading us there. I have much fait that Cassen Jackson Garrison can rush the ball behind our line.
Our success begins and ends with our QB. I love Nickson, I have nothing but good things to say about him, BUT he has his flaws. He is short, but he his fast. Sometimes I wonder how he sees over us linemen. But if doug flutie could do it, Im sure he can. He through too many interceptions last year, and many of them came IN the red zone. Those were scoring chances that we lost, which could have swayed some games the other way. If Nickson does well, we will do well. If he struggles, we will struggle.
wow dude, I understand that this is your personal opinion. So I don't won't to offend you. But how the hell do you have USC finishing 5th in the East? LSU finishing 3rd in the WEST? and BAMA finishing 2nd in the WEST? and UGA winning the EAST?
Here's my points, UGA has a sophomore QB still learning, plus they are coming off of a rocky year last year with losses to UK and UV. I've already explained my point on USC so no need to repeat myself. BAMA is having a "rebuild" year during their first year under SABAN. and LSU only has a QB delimma, but definitely the most potential to win the WEST seeing as both of their QB's that are fighting to be starters are really good. I just want to hear your logic.LOL! There is no true logic to my picks.........going with my heart there, sometimes life is fun when the unexpected can happen.......who would've dreamed UK would finish 3rd in the east last year?? Who would've predicted that Bama would go 6-6 or that Ark. would be playing for the SECC??? Its just a hunch and my heart, reality says USC will finish 4th ahead of UK, reality says LSU probably wins the west.
I went with the far-fetched outcomes for the east and west and I guess we'll just have to wait and see how they fare.:laugh:
well, UK finishing ahead of USC is laughable as well as USC not finishing at least 2nd. You guys obviously are more biased than I am.It wasn't so laughable last season now was it?? I recall several Cock fans worried about finishing behind UK. Its a game and nobody truly knows the outcome of them.
"Your bias is obviously more biased than my bias is."Now thats funny!
So your answer is "it has nothing to do with losses to Vandy and UK in 2006". Thanks.Remember your bias is stronger than his bias.......LOL!
Ralliartist
04-03-2007, 05:28 PM
The SEC is unpredictable, so I can understand why you would put up a list like that.
I see what you're saying man. The SEC is unpredictable whether any of us want to admit it or not.Thats why its so fun to watch! We are in the greatest college sports conference in America!!!!Nobody can take that from any of us. The Cocks will have a great season.
Ralliartist
04-03-2007, 05:46 PM
So your answer is "it has nothing to do with losses to Vandy and UK in 2006". Thanks.
No, here is my answer as to why I don't think this year will be a UGA owning the EAST year.
You guys lost both Quentin Moses and Charles Johnson on the defensive side of the ball. If I remember correctly, those guys had a lot to do with the dawgs having a decent defense. Now that they are gone, it's kind of up in the air about who will be the defensive end replacements. Now you picked up that JUCO transfer Wynn which is definitely a good thing, but your other ends, Marcus Howard and Roderick Battle, are a still little undersized. Plus you guys lost 3 senior Linebackers. I really don't see your Defense at this point putting up that great of numbers.
On the offensive side of the ball, your only playmaker is Matt Stafford. Your recievers had a lot of dropped passes last season and I don't think you guys really picked up any stars to help you out there this next year. You guys also lost 3 starters and your top backup on your O-line. So protecting Matt Stafford might be a problem. He's turning into a great quarterback, but he still doesn't have the consistency he needs in your recievers. Hopefully Knowshon Moreno, remember he redshirted, will be an asset on your tailback situation, if not, good luck running the ball behind brand new O-line.
Now you tell me how this isn't still a rebuilding season for the dawgs. Like I said before, next year you guys will be back up there. BUT, the SEC is undpredictable, so I may be totally wrong on all of my assumptions.
Bulldog Bry
04-03-2007, 07:52 PM
No, here is my answer as to why I don't think this year will be a UGA owning the EAST year.
You guys lost both Quentin Moses and Charles Johnson on the defensive side of the ball. If I remember correctly, those guys had a lot to do with the dawgs having a decent defense. Now that they are gone, it's kind of up in the air about who will be the defensive end replacements. Now you picked up that JUCO transfer Wynn which is definitely a good thing, but your other ends, Marcus Howard and Roderick Battle, are a still little undersized. Plus you guys lost 3 senior Linebackers. I really don't see your Defense at this point putting up that great of numbers.
On the offensive side of the ball, your only playmaker is Matt Stafford. Your recievers had a lot of dropped passes last season and I don't think you guys really picked up any stars to help you out there this next year. You guys also lost 3 starters and your top backup on your O-line. So protecting Matt Stafford might be a problem. He's turning into a great quarterback, but he still doesn't have the consistency he needs in your recievers. Hopefully Knowshon Moreno, remember he redshirted, will be an asset on your tailback situation, if not, good luck running the ball behind brand new O-line.
Now you tell me how this isn't still a rebuilding season for the dawgs. Like I said before, next year you guys will be back up there. BUT, the SEC is undpredictable, so I may be totally wrong on all of my assumptions.
Hey, somebody's been doing some homework - AWESOME. But let me make a few corrections.
Moses and Johnson didn't really turn it on until the end of the year. I'll admit, I'll miss Johnson,he's a bad, bad man. But they had to play all the time because there was very little depth. Depth is not a problem this year. And actually, Marcus Howard (220 lbs) is actually earning praise from coaches and <people who sneak into practice> alike and Battle is 260 lbs (hardly 'undersized') . As far as the ends, I (and many others) would trade last year's flashes of brilliance for consistency. The main difference will be that the DT's are much improved. It will affect how the ends play. Howard is playing so well, they moved Brandon Wood (6'1", 275) to DT.
Richt has praised the SLB spot and that's not something he ever does this early. Dannell Ellerbe mans the WLB spot and the only reason you haven't heard of more of him is that he spent a year and a half getting out of Richt's doghouse because of some trouble he got into. People remember Tony Taylor as a linebacker, but Jackson and Verdun-Wheeler were not exactly superstars. If the games started today, we'd have a Sr MLB, a junior WLB and a sophomore SLB. And more speed all the way around.
There are some guys you've never heard of on defense that will step up this year. We had a top five recruiting class in 2006 and most of them redshirted. Plus, remember the name Paul Oliver. If you don't know who he is, ask Calvin Johnson - he damn sure does. I have absolutely no worries about the DB's.
I think it's unlikely that the receivers drop as many balls as they did last year. That was truly horrendous. Stafford will be taking ALL the snaps as the #1 QB this year (no sharing with two others) and he is smarter than most people think. The 'playmaker' that everyone is talking about now is WR Mikey Henderson, who also returns punts. Quite honestly, I'm not buying it, I heard it all last year. And while most think Knowshon Moreno will be "the guy" we'll still have Kregg Lumpkin and Thomas Brown as the co-starters. No offense to Danny Ware, but we only upgraded at RB. FB Brannan Southerland is STILL only a junior.
As to the O-line. The last time we had a new O-line was 2003 - and we won the SEC East. Still, I think they are the biggest question mark. But I gotta be honest, and I was the last one on board, Stafford can make everyone better. The GT and VT games last year showed that.
Most Dawg fans predicted 3 or 4 losses last year, though not to those specific teams. THAT was a rebuilding year. And even though many fans are still saying we are a year away from NC considerations. I expect them to compete for the East this year. Besides, my whole point earlier was that losses to KY and Vandy LAST year will not have any bearing on what happens THIS year. Everything else you said does.
Of course, like you also said, the SEC is unpredictable, so I may be totally wrong on all of my assumptions.
Could this reply BE any longer?
Ralliartist
04-03-2007, 09:01 PM
You make some pretty good points and there are a few guys that you mentioned that slipped my mind. Your O-line will definitely have to mold quickly since the SEC is mainly known for the Defense. Stafford will see a lot of the dirt in your first few SEC games.
If there is anything that I do homework on, it's SEC football. Though I am a HUGE Gamecock fan, I keep up with all the SEC teams. Not because I want to know what my team is going up against, but because the SEC is more of a brotherhood, and I root for them against any other conference. I try to keep tabs on them as much as possible.
That's why I said my opinion was not biased. I KNOW the SEC. BUT, yes it is still unpredictable.
muttley1211
04-03-2007, 10:35 PM
Since these JUCOs O-linemen came in the spring and we got Stacy Searels working with them (from what i hear he is a hard ass) I think they will have learned what they need to learn and be ready for the start of the season...
Chief Broom
04-04-2007, 09:17 AM
It should be added to this exchange that UGA WR Stacy Bailey is back at full speed and once again there is size, speed, nasty hitters and depth at both safety positions.
The Dawgs will once again contend in 2007.:happy:
The Dawgs will once again contend in 2007.:happy:
Not hardly....
UGA will have a winning season, but I'm looking at at least 3 losses for the season.
The OL and DL has some major question marks on it.:unsure:
Bulldog Bry
04-04-2007, 09:51 AM
It should be added to this exchange that UGA WR Stacy Bailey is back at full speed and once again there is size, speed, nasty hitters and depth at both safety positions.
The Dawgs will once again contend in 2007.:happy:
You're giving away your age. Stacy is his daddy. But SEAN Bailey is back. And you're right about Jones and Banks at safety.
Chief Broom
04-04-2007, 11:40 AM
Not hardly....
UGA will have a winning season, but I'm looking at at least 3 losses for the season.
The OL and DL has some major question marks on it.:unsure:
Then look again.
BTW, how is coach Bowden doing at Bama? :laugh:
2001_Cockyness
04-04-2007, 06:09 PM
EAST:
1. UT
2. SC
3. UGA
4. UF
5. UV
6. UK
WEST:
1. LSU
2. Bama
3. Auburn
4. Ark
5. OM
6. MSU
DELTOR
04-04-2007, 08:04 PM
I honestly believe the East will be WIDE OPEN next year. I can't see anyone truly dominating. That being said, I also think it's Tennessee's to lose. That make any sense? LSU will handle the West with no problem, as I see it. Hands down.
shanksta13
04-04-2007, 08:13 PM
All I'm gonna say in regards to Georgia is 16 of the last 18...
Bulldog Bry
04-05-2007, 07:19 AM
All I'm gonna say in regards to Georgia is 16 of the last 18...
Didja think of that one all by yourself?
Dmldawg782
04-05-2007, 08:14 PM
No, here is my answer as to why I don't think this year will be a UGA owning the EAST year.
You guys lost both Quentin Moses and Charles Johnson on the defensive side of the ball. If I remember correctly, those guys had a lot to do with the dawgs having a decent defense. Now that they are gone, it's kind of up in the air about who will be the defensive end replacements. Now you picked up that JUCO transfer Wynn which is definitely a good thing, but your other ends, Marcus Howard and Roderick Battle, are a still little undersized. Plus you guys lost 3 senior Linebackers. I really don't see your Defense at this point putting up that great of numbers.
On the offensive side of the ball, your only playmaker is Matt Stafford. Your recievers had a lot of dropped passes last season and I don't think you guys really picked up any stars to help you out there this next year. You guys also lost 3 starters and your top backup on your O-line. So protecting Matt Stafford might be a problem. He's turning into a great quarterback, but he still doesn't have the consistency he needs in your recievers. Hopefully Knowshon Moreno, remember he redshirted, will be an asset on your tailback situation, if not, good luck running the ball behind brand new O-line.
Now you tell me how this isn't still a rebuilding season for the dawgs. Like I said before, next year you guys will be back up there. BUT, the SEC is undpredictable, so I may be totally wrong on all of my assumptions.
I'll try to be brief since Bry already covered everything. At least one of our DE's have been an issue every year and we produce another good one everytime. Now they are going to be lighter, but that hasn't hurt Auburn's "D". Plus, Howard is extremely strong and good with leverage. He benches 485 and say his first step is on par with Moses and Pollack. We'll se, but Fabris has done an awesome job in the past.
The LB's are new, but two of them have played a good bit over the years. They may be a little overaggressive if anything, but this is the fastest group we have ever had. They are our only question mark on D.
The secondary is our strength this year. Oliver, Evans, and Johnson have been the starters. Byrd is the new guy, but he has some experience. The major benefit is that he can cover unlike most of our past safeties.
The "O" is going to produce. We'll have some growing pains just as we did in 2003. The OL is the question.
Our WR's have been young the past couple of years and gone through grwoing pains. This year, they have been spending more time with catching drills instead of all the blocking drills. They should improve.
I'm realistic. I know we aren't competing for the NC, but we always have a chance in the EAst which gives us a chance at the SEC. I was right on my prediction last year. I thought 3-4 loses.
This year I see 2-3 loses. We'll have some close games again. Hopefully, we win them instead of losing like last year. TN is the team to beat this year in the EAst. FL is going to be good, but extremely young. USC should make a charge this year. You guys can finally say that. I just get tired of hearing it every year and then come up with all the excuses. If you don't do it this year. It's going to be another 2-3 years before you have another chance. Your best QB and RB are seniors. Got a great recruiting class coming in, but only a few will make a difference this year.
Should be fun to watch in th fall. Sorry this didn't end up being short.
Then look again.
BTW, how is coach Bowden doing at Bama? :laugh:
Probably as bad as losing to Vandy and UK in the same season. :unsure:
BamaDude06
04-06-2007, 07:44 PM
To be fair to Neo, he also said he heard Saban was looking into leaving the NFL for another college job, which did in fact happen.
PuddingTime
04-06-2007, 10:00 PM
Can we tear your goalposts down instead this year Georgia?
To be fair to Neo, he also said he heard Saban was looking into leaving the NFL for another college job, which did in fact happen.
Thanks Bama. :thumpsup:
To be technical, I also mentioned that he was seriously looking into the SEC vacancies as well. See for yourself in the post below which is located in the "Rumor Mill".
:attention
Well, here we are again...... :laugh:
The latest buzz I'm hearing is that Nick Saban is strongly considering coming back to the SEC as early as the end of the NFL season in Jan. As I hear more, I'll update this thread....
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