Some QB Doubts on the Bayou

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Didn't get to catch the LSU spring game since I'm back at home, but from what I have heard RP is far from being game ready and Flynn looked mediocre at best.

Based on the general reaction at TigerDroppings.. it looks like my prediction of LSU REALLY missing JaMarcus is coming to fruition much early than expected. Mind you this is also against an a-day defense that plays only base sets.


Random thoughts from the Spring Game (FOOTBALL post) @ TigerDroppings.com (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=4230713)

Houston, we may have a QB problem @ TigerDroppings.com (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=4230819)

Our QB's looked like absolute shite
^ this scared/scares me alot
RP literally couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
MF had problems as well.


Sorry dude, its true. Both QBs looked very shaky out there. Neither looked impressive and you should be very concerned about the QB position this year. Flynn appears servicable but it is going to be a serious downgrade from last year at the position. I really think Flynn is gonna struggle this year. Our offense will NOT be a deep threat offense b/c I think Flynn seriously limits our playcalling. Look for power running game, some option, qb runs and short passes from Flynn.

This may be enough for us to win tons of games, however, just don't expect Flynn to be the kind of QB to put the game in his hands and he'll win it for us. Every other position appears ready to go for next year maybe w/ the exception of WR- We are loaded w/ talent at WR but besides Early (who is a freak), no WRs have done anything to show they can consistently be a solid SEC wr. Lafell dropped WAY to many passes and I don't recall either Mitchell's or Dixon doing anything of note today.

QB and WR are the areas LSU needs to improve on going into the fall.


Also seemed to be some WR concern with Lafell, Early Doucet is apparently the only receiver with great hands.

[lacene]

but I don't understand, Blaaaaaaaaaaak: Flynn is among the 2 or 3 best SEC QB's coming into next season......



it just doesn't add up, somehow......

:mellow:

[LSUisLIFE611]

i dont know what game they were watching but i heard both qbs did very well and we are loaded with good wr's. i would be mad at anything worse than 11-1. i honestly think this could be a national championship team. our D is supposed to be EXTREMELY good, prob best in nation.

[gatorunvrsty]

Wow! LSU and Auburn both have the best defense in the nation, the 2nd or 3rd best QB's, and will be NC contenders. The rest of us might as well not show up. Oh, wait... LSU and Auburn are both in the West division. Seems improbable that you can both win the West, the conference, and the NC. :happy:

[lacene]

...that means someone's just gonna have to leave.

[gatorunvrsty]

...that means someone's just gonna have to leave.

This town just ain't big enough for the both of us, pardner!:laugh:

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

i dont know what game they were watching but i heard both qbs did very well and we are loaded with good wr's. i would be mad at anything worse than 11-1. i honestly think this could be a national championship team. our D is supposed to be EXTREMELY good, prob best in nation.


LSU, if you follow the links I provided, it seems that both QB's being mediocre at best is the general consensus, with a few fans trying to flat out deny it. Yet know one is saying Flynn looked amazing, or even decent.

LSU fans have been on a football high as of late with so much success, but this year may end up being very disappointing for LSU. If Flynn can't pull it together before fall practice ends, that VaTech game is going to be a nightmare.

Interesting, eh GeauxTo ? All this time you've spent bashing Brandon Cox and now you have your own QB issues to worry about :laugh:. Should be an interesting year to say the least =)

[AUfan06]

this stuff is like music to my ears hahah. you guys were so confident and now you get slapped in the face

[GeauxTo]

Don't get too excited just yet...

I was there, and I saw it a bit differently. Neither QB gave a stupendous performance, true, but the defenses on both sides were coming with gusto. Perrilloux made one throw while being harrassed out of the pocket, running full speed, and threw an arrow to little Trindon Holliday. He also had a couple of good throws dropped. He's definitely got a good arm, but little experience at this point. Flynn looked fine. He hit some good throws, missed a couple of long ones, and had a drop or two. Both QBs showed they could run if need be. Both QBs are beyond the capabilities of Brandon Cox, and I would venture to say that The Barn's defense will have to really be something to match up to this Tiger defense; they are big and quick. RB Richard Murphy, however, did have the speed to flank the defense on his TD run.

Leave it to say, I am not worried about the LSU QB corps, all is well; and I am very enthused about the running backs and the defense.

The matchup between The Barn and the Bengal Tigers will, as usual, likely be a good one; and it comes later in the season this year.

[azamugg]

this stuff is like music to my ears hahah. you guys were so confident and now you get slapped in the face

you guys are gonna take a brief report on a particular day from the beginning of spring training and start predicting the downfall of LSU and then make a post as goofy as this one in quotes ...........boy you guys are bored and/or desperate for anything negative about others

[GeauxTo]

you guys are gonna take a brief report on a particular day from the beginning of spring training and start predicting the downfall of LSU and then make a post as goofy as this one in quotes ...........boy you guys are bored and/or desperate for anything negative about others

They have to talk now, Aza, because everyone at The Barn knows they are going to pay through the nose when they visit the Bayou this year. It's going to be a slap-silly fest.
:laugh:

[AUfan06]

you guys are gonna take a brief report on a particular day from the beginning of spring training and start predicting the downfall of LSU and then make a post as goofy as this one in quotes ...........boy you guys are bored and/or desperate for anything negative about others

im not predicting a downfall anywhere in that post:brick: "slap in the face"=wake-up call, it wont be as easy as you think. after saying that, your post isnt even accurate:laugh:

[zorak34]

They have to talk now, Aza, because everyone at The Barn knows they are going to pay through the nose when they visit the Bayou this year. It's going to be a slap-silly fest.
:laugh:

You know your setting yourself up for if auburn does beat LSU and there is an even possibility that it will happen. Every AU fan in sectalk will hound you till the next time LSU actually does beat AU. I know your still sore because we paid the ref's to win the game. So calm yourself down GT.

[GeauxTo]

If you can beat us in the Bayou this year, I won't just eat crow, I'll eat a live alligator!
:laugh:

[Gator2753]

Wow! LSU and Auburn both have the best defense in the nation, the 2nd or 3rd best QB's, and will be NC contenders. The rest of us might as well not show up. Oh, wait... LSU and Auburn are both in the West division. Seems improbable that you can both win the West, the conference, and the NC. :happy:

The west has to prove that they can win the SEC first...:laugh:
The SEC champs will either be Tennessee or Florida:thumpsup:

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

If you can beat us in the Bayou this year, I won't just eat crow, I'll eat a live alligator!
:laugh:


Thats gonna be crunchy, I'd recommend you bring some extra sharp knives.

[crawfish]

Matt Flynn, waiting his turn in following Russell this year, reminds me a lot of Matt Mauck after Rohan Davey left for the NFL. Everybody thought that Mauck looked weak during the following Spring and would cause the Tigers to be weaker at QB in the Fall. But we all know how that story ended, Mauck led the Bayou Bengals to a National Championship. Both Mauck and Flynn were bowl MVP's as "backup QBs" before they were starters. A lot of similarities between the two. Everyone I talked to about the Spring game came away fired up about the upcoming season and felt let the dominating Tiger defense (knowing the receiver's routes) is what made the Tiger offense look a little average. They were very impressed with all the talent that make up this team. But guys. . . it's Spring! But I feel just fine about the possibilities that lie ahead for this LSU team. I wouldn't want to trade this team for any other team in the nation. It's going to fun seeing how next season unfolds!

First three photos are of Matt Mauck and the last two are of Matt Flynn

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Matt Flynn, waiting his turn in following Russell this year, reminds me a lot of Matt Mauck after Rohan Davey left for the NFL. Everybody thought that Mauck looked weak during the following Spring and would cause the Tigers to be weaker at QB in the Fall. But we all know how that story ended, Mauck led the Bayou Bengals to a National Championship. Both Mauck and Flynn were bowl MVP's as "backup QBs" before they were starters. A lot of similarities between the two. Everyone I talked to about the Spring game came away fired up about the upcoming season and felt let the dominating Tiger defense (knowing the receiver's routes) is what made the Tiger offense look a little average. They were very impressed with all the talent that make up this team. But guys. . . it's Spring! But I feel just fine about the possibilities that lie ahead for this LSU team. I wouldn't want to trade this team for any other team in the nation. It's going to fun seeing how next season unfolds!

First three photos are of Matt Mauck and the last two are of Matt Flynn


I finally got a chance to watch the LSU spring game and I gotta say, Flynn is no Matt Mauck. Just being honest.

[downshall]

Let the voice of experience guide you... having 2-3 bad QB's isn't so bad. It adds spice and excitement to the season. You never know what you'll get. Rotating them in and out *really* keeps you on the edge of your seat.

Oh, how I miss those days. Oh wait, nm...

[GeauxTo]

Another view, which is positive, from Dandy Don...

I attended LSU's Spring game Saturday and was very impressed.

On offense, I thought Matt Flynn was very impressive considering that the defense knew all the pass routes the LSU receivers would be running. Flynn showed a live arm and a nice touch on several throws and looked very quick on a couple running plays. Flynn completed 11 of 22 passes for 135 yards. Ryan Perrilloux completed eight of 23 passes for 155 yards and one touchdown and looked very good on a couple of plays when the defense flushed him out of the pocket. Perrilloux had at least five passes that were dropped that should have been completions.

At the running back position, I thought Richard Murphy, Keiland Williams and Alley Broussard ran the ball very well. Richard Murphy broke a couple of runs for 18 to 20 yards and finished with 85 yards on 11 carries. One of Murphy's longer runs was a cut back against the grain that was very pretty. Williams started off fast by gaining 25 yards on his first three carries and finish the scrimmage with 46 yards on eight carries. Williams had carries of 8, 8, 9, 1, 4, 5, 6 and 5 yards. Alley Broussard gained 32 yards on eight carries and had runs of 7, 4, 3, 4, 2, 4, 3 and 5 yards, and one touchdown. Fullback Quinn Johnson made a couple of nice blocks and had a couple of receptions in the flat.

Early Doucet was by far the most impressive player on the field. Doucet caught nine passes for 115 yards and a touchdown and also returned punts and kicks. Brandon LaFell made a couple of nice catches but also had a couple of dropped passes. Ricky Dixon caught a couple of nice passes. LSU will need for a couple of incoming freshmen wide receivers to step up next Fall to keep opposing teams from double-covering Doucet.

Both offensive lines did alright in run blocking, but allowed too many sacks. The center of both offensive lines looked very good but the offensive tackles had problems blocking Tremaine Johnson and Tyson Jackson.

On defense, I thought Johnson and Jackson looked great and Ricky Jean Francois and Joseph Barksdale played well at times. Al Woods also looked good at times. I was very impressed with linebackers Darry Beckwith, Perry Riley and Kelvin Sheppard. In the defensive backfield, I thought Jai Eugene, Curtis Taylor, Harry Coleman, Troy Giddens, Danny McCray and Chris Hawkins played very well. Eugene broke up a couple of long passes and Chris Hawkins had perfect coverage on Doucet on two long pass plays.

I was very pleased with what I saw, and I believe the crowd of almost 15,000 left the stadium very happy.

[downshall]

So lemme get this straight... Dandy Don posted something positive about LSU???

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

So lemme get this straight... Dandy Don posted something positive about LSU???

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[CRIMSONWHITE]

And Allbarn still has Barndon Cocks. :laugh:

[crawfish]

I finally got a chance to watch the LSU spring game and I gotta say, Flynn is no Matt Mauck. Just being honest.

I disagree with you and I stand by my comparison even more so after watching the Spring game as well, and having been at the Spring game Mauck's last year. Mauck struggle in the Spring game because of 1) lack of a lot of game experience and 2) the birth of a number one defense (that knew the plays). Same thing we saw in Saturday's Spring game. Just being honest as well, I feel good about Flynn having a great season this year. I see Flynn about where Mauck was at this point (not at the middle of or the end of the NC year). Most Tiger fans felt then about the same way we Tiger fans feel today after Spring camp, very "optimistic" about our QB situation. But, hey, time will tell. That's what makes this time of the year (and this site) so fun. . . all our expert opinions!

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

And Allbarn still has Barndon Cocks. :laugh:

Who was still 10 rankings higher than John Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson, on one leg. :whistle: Did I mention he is 20-5 as a starter?

[CRIMSONWHITE]

Who was still 10 rankings higher than John Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson, on one leg. :whistle: Did I mention he is 20-5 as a starter?


Ranked by who some Barntard writer? Wilson is much better than Cocks and being 20-5 as a starter wasn't due to him.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Ranked by who some Barntard writer? Wilson is much better than Cocks and being 20-5 as a starter wasn't due to him.


By ESPN, and SI, and everyone else in the world who recognizes the QB Rating system.

Cox being 20-5 as a starter has a lot to do with him, and even more to do with the team. Sort like how JPW being 6-7 as a starter (losing record.. ouch), has a lot to do with him and even more to do with the team.

[zud the hut]

Didn't get to catch the LSU spring game since I'm back at home, but from what I have heard RP is far from being game ready and Flynn looked mediocre at best.

Based on the general reaction at TigerDroppings.. it looks like my prediction of LSU REALLY missing JaMarcus is coming to fruition much early than expected. Mind you this is also against an a-day defense that plays only base sets.


Random thoughts from the Spring Game (FOOTBALL post) @ TigerDroppings.com (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=4230713)

Houston, we may have a QB problem @ TigerDroppings.com (http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=4230819)







Also seemed to be some WR concern with Lafell, Early Doucet is apparently the only receiver with great hands.


I was at the game and didn't have the same analysis as you or the postings that you promote.

I do think that Flynn will be quite good and the offense will score a lot of points this year.

This defense will be the best defense in the country. No one's defensive front will be as good as LSU's.

This team reminds me of the 2003 team.

[zud the hut]

Ranked by who some Barntard writer? Wilson is much better than Cocks and being 20-5 as a starter wasn't due to him.

That's the first time I've seen him called that CW.

[azamugg]

If you can beat us in the Bayou this year, I won't just eat crow, I'll eat a live alligator!
:laugh:

you probably did that for supper last nite, hell that wouldnt be punishment to you!

[jonthetiger337]

I heard the quarterbacks completion percentages were pretty bad, but I also heard there were a lot of drops. The running game was pretty strong. Our quarterback will not be all-SEC calliber, but all tiger fans thought Jamarcus sucked last year also until the very end of the year. I'm predicting another 10-2 year.

[RW13]

They have to talk now, Aza, because everyone at The Barn knows they are going to pay through the nose when they visit the Bayou this year. It's going to be a slap-silly fest.
:laugh:

GeauxTo, you are one of the few level-headed fans of ANY school on this board, as am I. I was curious how you think our game with LSU will go this year? Do we have a shot? What should we expect, and what is our best shot at beating you guys??

[jonthetiger337]

I think LSU beats South Carolina 17-14. The game winning field goal will come with under 5 minutes to go in the game.

[Gator2753]

I think LSU beats South Carolina 17-14. The game winning field goal will come with under 5 minutes to go in the game.

I predict 4 visor tosses from Spurrier and LSU blocks what would be a game winning field goal as LSU win it 21-20.

[lacene]

I predict 4 visor tosses from Spurrier and LSU blocks what would be a game winning field goal as LSU win it 21-20.

if it comes to that, then SC will win the game, because CSS has been starting the practices with emphasis on special teams drills, for the specific purpose of preventing just that from happening again....

[jonthetiger337]

Les Miles hat will interfere with the trajectory of the kick.

[zud the hut]

GeauxTo, you are one of the few level-headed fans of ANY school on this board, as am I. I was curious how you think our game with LSU will go this year? Do we have a shot? What should we expect, and what is our best shot at beating you guys??

Of course you have a shot...why would you think otherwise?

You should have beaten AU & UF last year and if you had then your year would have been fantastic.

LSU's defensive front will be the best in the nation. Second team looks as good as first.

This team looks like the 2003 team.

[Bulldog Bry]

if it comes to that, then SC will win the game, because CSS has been starting the practices with emphasis on special teams drills, for the specific purpose of preventing just that from happening again....

He's practicing to prevent a Jarvis Moss weed-induced high jump? :laugh:

[GeauxTo]

GeauxTo, you are one of the few level-headed fans of ANY school on this board, as am I. I was curious how you think our game with LSU will go this year? Do we have a shot? What should we expect, and what is our best shot at beating you guys??

Any Spurrier coached team can always do the unexpected. I think the Gamecocks will come ready to play and will pull some surprises. But in the end, we should win handily. Our defense is too good and our talent is too deep for even Spurs to overcome. I don't know how good your defense is, but we are going to have a stellar running game, swapping out Keiland Williams, Richard Murphy, Charles Scott, and Alley Broussard. They will wear out the best defenses.

I'm looking forward to the Gamecocks visit. I will enjoy seeing Spurrier in person roaming the sidelines and maybe even throwing his visor.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

LSU better hope the QB situation is perfect or better than last year, if not, its gonna be hard for them to beat us with less than 3 points.

[GeauxTo]

LSU better hope the QB situation is perfect or better than last year, if not, its gonna be hard for them to beat us with less than 3 points.

Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle...
In all honesty, dear Barner friend, I think we are poised to rip you a new one this year. Our stellar defense which hit you so hard and often last year, is even better. Brandon Cox will have a tough day. And, our running game which was non-existent last year, is deeper and more talented than any set of tailbacks in the SEC. I really do think The Barn is going to get a real azz kicking in Baton Rouge!

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle...
In all honesty, dear Barner friend, I think we are poised to rip you a new one this year. Our stellar defense which hit you so hard and often last year, is even better. Brandon Cox will have a tough day. And, our running game which was non-existent last year, is deeper and more talented than any set of tailbacks in the SEC. I really do think The Barn is going to get a real azz kicking in Baton Rouge!


Brad Lester + Mario Fannin + Ben Tate + Tristan Davis all coached by the best running backs coach in the SEC/one of the best in the nation (Eddie Gran), will be better than LSU's running backs. I would put down some heavy vcash (and real money) on that in a heartbeat.

Our D-Line will be just as talented as LSU's, and our LB's and safeties will be better than LSU's. Corner we will have a slight dropoff from losing Irons, but McFadden and Wilhite are stepping it up.

I'm coming to BR and I already have tickets secured for the game. I'll be sure to post lots of pictures of teary-eyed corndog fans as the last seconds run off the clock in a 42-10 Auburn win. =)

[BamaDude06]

I'm coming to BR and I already have tickets secured for the game. I'll be sure to post lots of pictures of teary-eyed corndog fans as the last seconds run off the clock as Auburn drops yet another game in 2007

Fixed it for you ;)

[GeauxTo]

Brad Lester + Mario Fannin + Ben Tate + Tristan Davis all coached by the best running backs coach in the SEC/one of the best in the nation (Eddie Gran), will be better than LSU's running backs. I would put down some heavy vcash (and real money) on that in a heartbeat.

Our D-Line will be just as talented as LSU's, and our LB's and safeties will be better than LSU's. Corner we will have a slight dropoff from losing Irons, but McFadden and Wilhite are stepping it up.

I'm coming to BR and I already have tickets secured for the game. I'll be sure to post lots of pictures of teary-eyed corndog fans as the last seconds run off the clock in a 42-10 Auburn win. =)

When he's not sacking (with pain) Brandon Cox, Glenn Dorsey will be throwing Lester back into the backfield so many times that Fannin and Tate will opt not to participate.
:laugh:

Hey, and come on by our tailgate... you might as well have a little fun before the massacre begins.
:D

[shk999]

When he's not sacking (with pain) Brandon Cox, Glenn Dorsey will be throwing Lester back into the backfield so many times that Fannin and Tate will opt not to participate.
:laugh:

Hey, and come on by our tailgate... you might as well have a little fun before the massacre begins.
:D

I smell an ambush.....:laugh:

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

When he's not sacking (with pain) Brandon Cox, Glenn Dorsey will be throwing Lester back into the backfield so many times that Fannin and Tate will opt not to participate.
:laugh:

Hey, and come on by our tailgate... you might as well have a little fun before the massacre begins.
:D


Haha oh definitely man. We will make some plans whenever it gets closer to gametime.

[jonthetiger337]

Brad Lester + Mario Fannin + Ben Tate + Tristan Davis all coached by the best running backs coach in the SEC/one of the best in the nation (Eddie Gran), will be better than LSU's running backs. I would put down some heavy vcash (and real money) on that in a heartbeat.

Our D-Line will be just as talented as LSU's, and our LB's and safeties will be better than LSU's. Corner we will have a slight dropoff from losing Irons, but McFadden and Wilhite are stepping it up.

I'm coming to BR and I already have tickets secured for the game. I'll be sure to post lots of pictures of teary-eyed corndog fans as the last seconds run off the clock in a 42-10 Auburn win. =)

Your defensive line is not as talented as LSU's. Your back seven will probably be better though.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

[QUOTE=jonthetiger337;214801]Your defensive line is not as talented as LSU's. Your back seven will probably be better though.[/QUOTE


AU is stronger at DE, LSU is stronger at DT. That's a push.

[GeauxTo]

[quote=jonthetiger337;214801]Your defensive line is not as talented as LSU's. Your back seven will probably be better though.[/QUOTE


AU is stronger at DE, LSU is stronger at DT. That's a push.

They call that Groves (The Barn) and Dorsey (LSU).:D

[zud the hut]

Brad Lester + Mario Fannin + Ben Tate + Tristan Davis all coached by the best running backs coach in the SEC/one of the best in the nation (Eddie Gran), will be better than LSU's running backs. I would put down some heavy vcash (and real money) on that in a heartbeat.

Our D-Line will be just as talented as LSU's, and our LB's and safeties will be better than LSU's. Corner we will have a slight dropoff from losing Irons, but McFadden and Wilhite are stepping it up.

I'm coming to BR and I already have tickets secured for the game. I'll be sure to post lots of pictures of teary-eyed corndog fans as the last seconds run off the clock in a 42-10 Auburn win. =)

I want to save this post for you when we play!

[zud the hut]

Also...your refs will not be allowed in this game.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Also...your refs will not be allowed in this game.


You're right in the sense that no one owns any of the refs. They will be the same SEC refs that work all of the SEC games, in fact it might even be the same crew that did the AU-LSU game last year!

[GeauxTo]

You're right in the sense that no one owns any of the refs. They will be the same SEC refs that work all of the SEC games, in fact it might even be the same crew that did the AU-LSU game last year!

Naw... I think someone fed them to the alligators.:laugh:

[zud the hut]

You're right in the sense that no one owns any of the refs. They will be the same SEC refs that work all of the SEC games, in fact it might even be the same crew that did the AU-LSU game last year!

Come by our tailgate...we are the Xtreme tailgaters...I will set it up if you want to come by.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Come by our tailgate...we are the Xtreme tailgaters...I will set it up if you want to come by.


Oh definitely, like I told Geaux we'll make some plans when it gets close to the game.

[crimsonnation713]

When he's not sacking (with pain) Brandon Cox, Glenn Dorsey will be throwing Lester back into the backfield so many times that Fannin and Tate will opt not to participate.
:laugh:

Hey, and come on by our tailgate... you might as well have a little fun before the massacre begins.
:D

Can you say " Little Big Horn "?