The Saban affect......

[BamaFanNKy]

Alright. I want everyone to be honest. With Shula out does Saban make anyone from other schools think the sleeping giant is getting back up?

I have been watching his recruitting pattern and he is hitting 3 places #1. The states top recruits (aka Mobile where he had tons of success for LSU) #2 Florida (Mainly Miami) #3. Louisianna and a distant #4. West and Central Tennessee.

I am not stupid. I undertsand this will be a process and out the gate we'll have struggles. I just wanted to see what you guys thought of what you think his potential in a conference of great coaches.....

Just look at the coaches in the conference in no order:
1. Spurrier
2. Meyer
3. Saban
4. Richt
5. Tubberville
6. Fulmer
7. Miles
8. Nutt
9. Orgeron
10. Brooks
11. Croom
12. Bobby Johnson

That is a dang good list.

[Chief Broom]

I thought Shula was bringing the sleeping giant back, but obviously not fast enough for the Tide faithful.
I expect the 07 Bama team to be slightly better than the 06 largely due to gameday/sideline coaching. That might be 7 wins or even 8.
By 08 and 09 I expect Bama to contend in the west. After that who knows, recruiting could have them back at the top of the conference and a regular top 20 nationally.

[hmsdawgs]

Saban will certainly make recruiting all the more difficult for all of our schools.
He is a proven winner and kids know that they will be getting great coaching in college to maybe make in the pros one day.
The UGA vs Bama game got a lot harder in my book for next year.
Is that Bama's first big SEC game of the season for next year?

[Cianne]

Louisiana is going to be a bigger recruiting battle than ever with Saban back in and Orgeron and Wilson making good in-roads. Good thing that Miles is starting to look national because Alabama, Ole Miss, and the other big schools in other conferences are going to start pickpocketing.

[BamaFanNKy]

Saban has a big game with Vandy in Nashville and a home stand with the Hogs... and yes... all SEC games are big to me. Even Vandy.

[jthomas666]

I thought Shula was bringing the sleeping giant back, but obviously not fast enough for the Tide faithful.
I expect the 07 Bama team to be slightly better than the 06 largely due to gameday/sideline coaching. That might be 7 wins or even 8.
By 08 and 09 I expect Bama to contend in the west. After that who knows, recruiting could have them back at the top of the conference and a regular top 20 nationally.Shula wasn't doing much to wake up anything. He refused to stress S&C, he played favorites with both players and coaching staff, and discipline suffered on and off the field.

The Tide was regressing, not progressing.

[gatorunvrsty]

Saban will have a huge impact where recruiting is concerned. The difference between Saban and Shula is night and day. Saban brings much more to the table. Saban was a household name, before. It will only become more so while he's at Bama. When you say the name Shula, people think Don. Saban is definitely going to make Bama a powerhouse again.

EDIT: Saban's name fits in a list of great SEC coaches. I don't think Shula's ever would have.

[nooneLT]

Shula wasn't doing much to wake up anything. He refused to stress S&C, he played favorites with both players and coaching staff, and discipline suffered on and off the field.

The Tide was regressing, no progressing.

elaboration = none of our OL can bench 400 as of right now. Big Andre was the closest at 385. i expect by fall camp most of them will be over that 400 mark.

[Wizard of Orange]

I've never counted Bama out. With Shula or Saban, they are a legitimate threat. Those who downplay Shula weren't paying attention last year (2005).

In a nutshell, YES, I think Bama is going to be strong again just like TN rebounded from a bad year and most good programs do.

On the other hand, I don't expect the Tide Or Any One Else to dominate the SEC for long stretches. The better a team does nowadays, the more likely they are to have players jump early - which can set a program back just enough for the other conference powers to jump in and take over for a couple of years.

[hmsdawgs]

I agree Wizard. I know UF has pulled in a great class the last 5 years...but so have a lot of other programs in the SEC and I just dont think we will see one team dominate like UF in the 90's. The SEC is just so competitive these days and if a highpowered team takes a lesser team for granted...they stand a good chance of losing (i.e. UGA vs Vandy and KY and UT the previous year).
All the teams have raised the bar and when our team wins the SEC we should enjoy while can b/c its not going to be likely to return as strong when great players leave early.

[GamecockDieHard]

Saban v Shula and Bama fans reminds me of Spurrier v Holtz with our fans. The details of each situation is what's important. While many didn't see the faults of Shula as well as the Tide loyal did, it was almost exactly the same with Holtz for many Gamecock fans. Huge difference between Holtz and Spurrier, yet many want to say if Holtz couldn't do it....Saban brings to their program what they know is needed. It's hard for those that don't follow the program as closely, to know or understand the level of excitement, that can bring.

Saban is a winner at the collegiate level. Alabama is rich enough and committed enough to give him anything he needs (not that he needs much more). Richt is awesome. Fulmer just wins even if people hate him. Meyer has proven himself to be everything Florida dreamed he would be. Turbeville expects to win every single game. Nutt had the last laugh in 06. Brooks is on a roll and everyone is now paying attention to Kentucky. Johnson is good enough to upset teams from time to time even though his school should be competing against Furman and App State. Orgeron is an unknown to me and Croom may want to update his resume. But overall, it's going to be a crap shoot and the usual suspects that normally walk through half of the SEC schedule can't be as confident, IMO.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Saban will have a huge impact where recruiting is concerned. The difference between Saban and Shula is night and day. Saban brings much more to the table. Saban was a household name, before. It will only become more so while he's at Bama. When you say the name Shula, people think Don. Saban is definitely going to make Bama a powerhouse again.

EDIT: Saban's name fits in a list of great SEC coaches. I don't think Shula's ever would have.



When you get out from under Saban's desk make sure that you light his cigar for him too. :thumpsup:

[timNem]

When you get out from under Saban's desk that you light his cigar for him too. :thumpsup:Ouch...very ouch.

[gatorunvrsty]

When you get out from under Saban's desk that you light his cigar for him too. :thumpsup:

:blink: What? I'm not sure that's English; and I definitely don't follow. If it's supposed to be some kind of insult, you're definitely slipping, and in the wrong forum. It's hilarious recalling that in another thread you claimed to be intelligent and mature enough to take part in these discussions. Yeah, it shows. You should probably get off your groupies, Turd and Northflake, and find your way back to the Trash Talk forum; where your pathetic attempts at humor have a preteen audience and appreciation. Don't worry, Blake; they'll drop eventually, hair will sprout, and then you won't have such an obvious inferiority complex.

[timNem]

Don't worry, Blake; they'll drop eventually, hair will sprout, and then you won't have such an obvious inferiority complex.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/rhombus27/kelso_burn.gif

[GeauxTo]

Don't worry, Blake; they'll drop eventually, hair will sprout, and then you won't have such an obvious inferiority complex.

Now that, my friends, is funny!:laugh:

[crimsonnation713]

When you get out from under Saban's desk that you light his cigar for him too. :thumpsup:

Thats as immature as you can get Blake. Totally uncalled for. :thumbsdow

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Bring some tissue next time gator, you left a little on your lip.

[RichBrooks]

Alright. I want everyone to be honest. With Shula out does Saban make anyone from other schools think the sleeping giant is getting back up?

I have been watching his recruitting pattern and he is hitting 3 places #1. The states top recruits (aka Mobile where he had tons of success for LSU) #2 Florida (Mainly Miami) #3. Louisianna and a distant #4. West and Central Tennessee.

I am not stupid. I undertsand this will be a process and out the gate we'll have struggles. I just wanted to see what you guys thought of what you think his potential in a conference of great coaches.....

Just look at the coaches in the conference in no order:
1. Spurrier
2. Meyer
3. Saban
4. Richt
5. Tubberville
6. Fulmer
7. Miles
8. Nutt
9. Orgeron
10. Brooks
11. Croom
12. Bobby Johnson

That is a dang good list.

Rich Brooks does not approve this thread. Mainly because you have Bobby Johnson at the bottom of the list, one he is winning at VANDERBILT. He's won AT Tennessee and AT Georgia, and AT Florida he lost in Double OT. He's not worse than Croom.

And obviously I am the greatest coach ever, do not disrespect

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

By the way, the "Saban effect" is nothing more than what any other top coach does in recruiting. Tuberville, Meyer, Richt, Fulmer, Miles, Saban, Carroll, Stoops etc etc all go out and get attention from top athletes around the nation every single year. Alabama has been brought back (from the recruiting perspective) to even keel with the rest of the top teams, and to be honest they weren't far behind with Shula anyway.

The hype ends when Bama goes 6-6 or 7-5 with losses to its top SEC rivals (UT, LSU, AU) this year.

[Gator2753]

:blink: What? I'm not sure that's English; and I definitely don't follow. If it's supposed to be some kind of insult, you're definitely slipping, and in the wrong forum. It's hilarious recalling that in another thread you claimed to be intelligent and mature enough to take part in these discussions. Yeah, it shows. You should probably get off your groupies, Turd and Northflake, and find your way back to the Trash Talk forum; where your pathetic attempts at humor have a preteen audience and appreciation. Don't worry, Blake; they'll drop eventually, hair will sprout, and then you won't have such an obvious inferiority complex.

Its simple... this thread was about Nick Saban & Alabama football and Blaaaake was envious that no one mentioned Auburn and their spring game offensive MVP Brandon Cox:laugh:

Hey Alabama fans im beginning to see what infatUAtion really is.

[shk999]

Its simple... this thread was about Nick Saban & Alabama football and Blaaaake was envious that no one mentioned Auburn and their spring game offensive MVP Brandon Cox:laugh:

Hey Alabama fans im beginning to see what infatUAtion really is.

Barely scratching the surface my friend, you should live here. :laugh:

[lacene]

Rich Brooks does not approve this thread. Mainly because you have Bobby Johnson at the bottom of the list, one he is winning at VANDERBILT. He's won AT Tennessee and AT Georgia, and AT Florida he lost in Double OT. He's not worse than Croom.

And obviously I am the greatest coach ever, do not disrespect

Just look at the coaches in the conference in no order:
1. Spurrier
2. Meyer
3. Saban
4. Richt
5. Tubberville
6. Fulmer
7. Miles
8. Nutt
9. Orgeron
10. Brooks
11. Croom
12. Bobby Johnson

That is a dang good list.

RichBrooks, the above list was not intended to represent an order of ranking for the coaches, but simply a list of current SEC head coaches....

[BamaDude06]

Croom is better than Johnson. He got rid of Shula and Zook, who has Johnson gotten fired? :laugh:

[shk999]

Bring some tissue next time gator, you left a little on your lip.

Ladies and gentlemen, the real AU Blake. :thumbsdow

[Crimson Kicker8]

Hey Alabama fans im beginning to see what infatUAtion really is.

It's a very real threat my friend. One that we as Alabama fans deal with every day of our lives. It's so hard having a little brother.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Ladies and gentlemen, the real AU Blake. :thumbsdow


There's a fake one?

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

It's a very real threat my friend. One that we as Alabama fans deal with every day of our lives. It's so hard having a little brother.

Imagine having a gender/sexually confused ginger-kid big sister who had lost all athletic and physical ability to compete with you but still tried to talk to you like she could compete! Poor Bammer =( :laugh:

[BamaFanNKy]

Back to my point....

I am worried this year about the talent level Shula left. After that.... not so much. Even if we have a sub par (7 or 8 wins) season I think we hit top 10 class for recruits. Mainly cause the state's top players will turn towards Bama. Plus pulling Saban he will have a grace period of 2 years where kids see he is building something.

It's kind of like how Richt did when he got to UGA, how Spurrier is doing now at USC and even Urban's first 3 classes. The first 3 classes for a coach are key. It sets the tone for his carrer at that Univ.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Back to my point....

I am worried this year about the talent level Shula left. After that.... not so much. Even if we have a sub par (7 or 8 wins) season I think we hit top 10 class for recruits. Mainly cause the state's top players will turn towards Bama. Plus pulling Saban he will have a grace period of 2 years where kids see he is building something.

It's kind of like how Richt did when he got to UGA, how Spurrier is doing now at USC and even Urban's first 3 classes. The first 3 classes for a coach are key. It sets the tone for his carrer at that Univ.

What are you talking about? Shula did a great job recruiting at Alabama, including the monster job he did at OL that you Bammers love to remind anyone about who questions OL troubles at Bama.

The states top players have generally picked Bama simply because they grow up Bama fans like 75% of this state. The fact is most of this state is comprised of Bama fans because back when Bama was winning everyone and their mom jumped on the bandwagon. It trickles down from there with reproduction and since then the majority of this states recruits are Bama fans to begin with. Its started to change over the last few years, but not significantly. Last year AU picked up both Michael McNeil and Ryan Pugh, easily in the top 5 recruits of Alabama. Bama picked up McClain and Murphy (overweight, out of shape and academically "challenged"), and LSU got Corley.

Which is why AU has (particularly under Tuberville's system) got its top recruits from out of state, particularly this year with guys like Lee Ziemba #1 in Arky, Kodi Burns #2 in Arky, Enrique Davis #4 RB in the nation, Wes Bynum (#1/#2 kicker in the nation). It wouldn't matter if Bama could take every single recruit in the state, AU would still bring in a top class.

[BamaFanNKy]

I didn't say they went to Auburn.

The state's top recruits I remember:
Jason Allen- UT
Jayson Swain- UT
Jamarcus Russel- LSU
Chad Jackson- UF

etc. etc.

Under Shula he got decent players..... but not a marquee skills player.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Under Shula he got decent players..... but not a marquee skills player.



Ummm.. Andre Smith? Mike Ford? Rolando McClain? Nikita Stover? Didn't he also have a hand in on Tim Castille?

Andre and Castille are already marquee talent at the college level, McClain, Stover and Ford most likely will be. Its not all about marquee names.. some of the best players in the nation are 2/3 stars, like Sen'Derrick Marks for AU 2* All-Freshman SEC.

[BamaDude06]

Mike Ford is at south Florida now....have fun playing him ;)

Alabama has the talent, but there are a few positions that lack depth. Saban has an affect on recruiting because many of these kids coming out of high school now grew up watching him at LSU, so he has a much better name recgonition than Shula, who was living on his father's name.

He also is a tougher coach than Shula. Discipline will be better, S&C will be better, overall the football team will be better.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Mike Ford is at south Florida now....have fun playing him ;)

Alabama has the talent, but there are a few positions that lack depth. Saban has an affect on recruiting because many of these kids coming out of high school now grew up watching him at LSU, so he has a much better name recgonition than Shula, who was living on his father's name.

He also is a tougher coach than Shula. Discipline will be better, S&C will be better, overall the football team will be better.



I threw in Mike Ford because he applied, Shula recruited him and he was one of the best backs in the nation in his class. He would still be at Alabama if his IQ didn't resemble that of a 12 year old, and thats saying something considering Bama gets guys like Tyrone Prothro and Kerry Murphy into school.

[bigsexxxy]

I threw in Mike Ford because he applied, Shula recruited him and he was one of the best backs in the nation in his class. He would still be at Alabama if his IQ didn't resemble that of a 12 year old, and thats saying something considering Bama gets guys like Tyrone Prothro and Kerry Murphy into school.

Hold on tight to the reins, I'd hate for you to break your neck when you fall off that high horse.

[UA0509]

hmm...now where did i put my sociology credits......:laugh:

[bigsexxxy]

hmm...now where did i put my sociology credits......:laugh:

Don't worry, they'll just give you some more if you can run a 4.4 40

[timNem]

I threw in Mike Ford because he applied, Shula recruited him and he was one of the best backs in the nation in his class. He would still be at Alabama if his IQ didn't resemble that of a 12 year old, and thats saying something considering Bama gets guys like Tyrone Prothro and Kerry Murphy into school.I'm assuming by your comments that you have seen Prothro's academic progress and you know without a doubt that Murphy won't qualify.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

I'm assuming by your comments that you have seen Prothro's academic progress and you know without a doubt that Murphy won't qualify.


I have no idea what type of "progress" Prothro has made since miraculously meeting the requirements to get in, I'm just referring to the fact that Bama can get guys like him into school but couldn't with Mike Ford.. thus, Mike Ford is either illiterate or just a really slow learner.

[timNem]

I have no idea what type of "progress" Prothro has made since miraculously meeting the requirements to get in, I'm just referring to the fact that Bama can get guys like him into school but couldn't with Mike Ford.. thus, Mike Ford is either illiterate or just a really slow learner. Prothro was a full qualifier and if I remember correctly there was never any issues with him enrolling. If you are going to make claims about someone's intelligence you need to back it up with facts like I will here. Can you back up your statement?

James Brooks

THE JAMES BROOKS Illiteracy Scandal - Brief Article Black Issues in Higher Education - Find Articles (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_23_16/ai_59019429)

James Brooks (American football player - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brooks_(American_football_player))

Why James can't read (http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1999/12/05/spt_why_james_cant_read.html)

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Your three "sources" are the enquirer.com, wikipedia search (public encyclopedia in which anyone in the world can create a user-name and edit material), and an article search engine whose report was not even traceable back to the original magazine it was supposedly published in (Diverse Magazine). The James Brooks situation stems from problems with previous coaching staffs, not Tuberville, and is an old and now non-existent problem.

Prothro was "fully" qualified by the same means Bama is trying (or tried) to get Murphy qualified, by citing learning disabilities and getting extra "help". The difference between Brooks and Prothro is Prothro was not a marquee athlete coming out of high school so the research on his education or lack-thereof does not exist.

[timNem]

Prothro was "fully" qualified by the same means Bama is trying (or tried) to get Murphy qualified, by citing learning disabilities and getting extra "help". The difference between Brooks and Prothro is Prothro was not a marquee athlete coming out of high school so the research on his education or lack-thereof does not exist.
Once again, if you are going to make outlandish claims about other people, please back those claims up. It is unfair to the ones that you make these claims about. Do you have proof or are you just assuming?


AU-brooks (http://www.auburn.edu/administration/univrel/news/archive/1_00news/1_00brooks.html)

[bigsexxxy]

Your three "sources" are the enquirer.com, wikipedia search (public encyclopedia in which anyone in the world can create a user-name and edit material), and an article search engine whose report was not even traceable back to the original magazine it was supposedly published in (Diverse Magazine). The James Brooks situation stems from problems with previous coaching staffs, not Tuberville, and is an old and now non-existent problem.

Prothro was "fully" qualified by the same means Bama is trying (or tried) to get Murphy qualified, by citing learning disabilities and getting extra "help". The difference between Brooks and Prothro is Prothro was not a marquee athlete coming out of high school so the research on his education or lack-thereof does not exist.

Why don't we put this to rest? Everybody in their right mind knows that both of our schools(along with every other school) find loopholes to get players on the team and playing. 71% of Duke basketball players major in Sociology, which ain't a hard major, even at Duke. Battier majored in Religious Studies, again, a really *tough* major.

You can sit here and call out Alabama players by name all you want, but its not like Auburn doesn't do the same thing. I really doubt that any Auburn players are struggling to make ends meet, just as I doubt the same thing about Alabama players. This is a dirty business and for you to sit here and say outright that Auburn is more on the level than Alabama is a complete farce.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Once again, if you are going to make outlandish claims about other people, please back those claims up. It is unfair to the ones that you make these claims about. Do you have proof or are you just assuming?


AU-brooks (http://www.auburn.edu/administration/univrel/news/archive/1_00news/1_00brooks.html)


Once again, Tyrone Prothro was not an NFL-caliber athlete coming out of high school, so no one cared to investigate or even bother with his credentials. James Brooks was, and I'm not trying to say AU has not been in similar situations in the past so I'm not sure why you're attacking Auburn to defend Bama.

Like Bigsexxxxxy said, it has happened everywhere, even Auburn in the distant past. No need to have that debate in a thread where I was simply noting that Shula recruited marquee talent and saying "the cupboard might be empty because of Shula" is a terrible excuse for a mediocre season next year.

[timNem]

I don't know how else to spell it out.
I wasn't attacking Auburn, I was only showing how to back up a statement. I have been keeping tabs on Bama football for a long time and I don't remember anything about Prothro's academic status ever being in question before or after he was enrolled. All I am asking is where do you get your information about Prothro? Did read about it on an internet board etc, etc.? You shouldn't claim things like that as facts if you can't back it up. Peace.

Once again, Tyrone Prothro was not an NFL-caliber athlete coming out of high school, so no one cared to investigate or even bother with his credentials. James Brooks was, and I'm not trying to say AU has not been in similar situations in the past so I'm not sure why you're attacking Auburn to defend Bama.

Like Bigsexxxxxy said, it has happened everywhere, even Auburn in the distant past. No need to have that debate in a thread where I was simply noting that Shula recruited marquee talent and saying "the cupboard might be empty because of Shula" is a terrible excuse for a mediocre season next year.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Everyone knows Prothro is not a "books" smart kid. Its common knowledge even amongst Bammers, and maybe we will see some articles about it further down the road like with James Brooks. Took years for those articles to get published.

[crimsonnation713]

Once again, Tyrone Prothro was not an NFL-caliber athlete coming out of high school, so no one cared to investigate or even bother with his credentials. James Brooks was, and I'm not trying to say AU has not been in similar situations in the past so I'm not sure why you're attacking Auburn to defend Bama.

Like Bigsexxxxxy said, it has happened everywhere, even Auburn in the distant past. No need to have that debate in a thread where I was simply noting that Shula recruited marquee talent and saying "the cupboard might be empty because of Shula" is a terrible excuse for a mediocre season next year.

Quit sidestepping and back your claims about Prothro, Blake. You started the whole load of crap here by being outta line and talking about someone being under Sabans desk. And you started the whole debate by hijacking the thread and flaming. Quit trying to be the martyr and back your claim up. And whose "everyone" when it comes to how book smart Prothro is? Name 'em Blake. Like you said, anyone can say anything and thats pretty much what you're doing now.

[crimsonnation713]

Prothro was a full qualifier and if I remember correctly there was never any issues with him enrolling. If you are going to make claims about someone's intelligence you need to back it up with facts like I will here. Can you back up your statement?

James Brooks

THE JAMES BROOKS Illiteracy Scandal - Brief Article Black Issues in Higher Education - Find Articles (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_23_16/ai_59019429)

James Brooks (American football player - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brooks_(American_football_player))

Why James can't read (http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1999/12/05/spt_why_james_cant_read.html)





He can't back it up. Makes him look like he knows what hes talking about.

[GatorHunter]

On a side note...heard on Finebaum that some guy named his son "Saban"...the little boy was born this past Tuesday...he has an older brother...his name is "Tyde"...:)

[crimsonnation713]

On a side note...heard on Finebaum that some guy named his son "Saban"...the little boy was born this past Tuesday...he has an older brother...his name is "Tyde"...:)



:laugh: Wouldnt surprise me.

[jthomas666]

No need to have that debate in a thread where I was simply noting that Shula recruited marquee talent and saying "the cupboard might be empty because of Shula" is a terrible excuse for a mediocre season next year.You can bring in all the talent you want, but if the players are not properly coached--and few people will claim that they were under Shula--much of that talent is squandered. Saban will have to spend some time getting some players to Unlearn what [they] have learned..

The biggest weaknesses on the team last year were the OL and DL. There's a lot of work to be done there, and it will likely take 2-3 years to get things righted on those fronts.

I'm thinking 8-9 wins is a reasonable expectation, but that could change after spring practice. It's looking like I'll be able to attend A-Day this year, which will be nice.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

On a side note...heard on Finebaum that some guy named his son "Saban"...the little boy was born this past Tuesday...he has an older brother...his name is "Tyde"...:)

Yup.

Saban joins Tyde in Bama-fan clan: Couple name sons for team, new head coach (http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/070323/fans.shtml)

[GatorHunter]

Yup.

Saban joins Tyde in Bama-fan clan: Couple name sons for team, new head coach (http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/070323/fans.shtml)

Wow...Tyde is 23 months old and still "suckin" a pacifier....he's gonna be able to eat corn-on-the-cob through a knothole with those "buck-teeth" he's developing!!:laugh:

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Wow...Tyde is 23 months old and still "suckin" a pacifier....he's gonna be able to eat corn-on-the-cob through a knothole with those "buck-teeth" he's developing!!:laugh:


ROFL. Sadly, he will most likely fit in just fine in the area of Alabama he lives in.

[shk999]

Two words for Blake: Junior Rosegreen

From Sporting News

Don't get me wrong, this is still a black eye for Auburn athletics. Whether it's accurate or not, it's not good to see Carnell Williams' name lumped in with "academic scandal." It's really not good when Junior Rosegreen, who made an inexplicable 2/32 on the Wonderlic test, was a sociology major.

Some never take the time to find where their classes are, buy (or read) a book, or take a test, and leave without being able to spell "wonderlic".

[crimsonnation713]

ROFL. Sadly, he will most likely fit in just fine in the area of Alabama he lives in.

Typical comeback. Ask for facts and you take shots. I guess next you'll be reciting " I'm rubber and you're glue ".

[gatorunvrsty]

Wow...Tyde is 23 months old and still "suckin" a pacifier....he's gonna be able to eat corn-on-the-cob through a knothole with those "buck-teeth" he's developing!!:laugh:

I can't believe that. I thought the whole thing was a joke. I didn't think there was actually a couple dumb enough to do that. What's worse is the mother is a TEACHER. Now, that's pretty ironic when you consider that the UA and AU guys have been arguing about academic short-comings for almost a whole day.:laugh: Here's my take: While the teacher/Mom is OBVIOUSLY a Bama fan, she's probably teaching kids whose parents are fans of both schools. So, now we know the root of illiteracy in the state. Some of the little boys will grow up to be Tigger, majoring in sociology at Auburn; while others will grow up to be laundry detergent, majoring in under-water basket weaving (or whatever their crip course is) at Alabama. Either way, it can all be traced to, and blamed on, some inbreeder teaching 3rd grade in a public school in Alabama. Now you both have an out. It's the school system's fault.:laugh: Now kiss and make up (unless you're related).:wub:

[gatorunvrsty]

In a related story:

Kindergartner Being Groomed For Line-Leader Position

Tuscaloosa, Al.- Kiddie Kollege Preschool teacher Mrs. Allen, 33, says she has known since the first day of class that student Bryant Paulson, 6, was "line-leader material."

"He wasn't the tallest, but he conducted himself as if he were over four feet," Mrs. Allen said of Paulson (nicknamed "Bear"), who she believes "has what it takes" to lead the class to key locations throughout the school such as the cafeteria, bathroom, water fountain, and to the playground. "Once he's got his feet under him a bit more, the sky's the limit on where he can take this class."

Mrs. Allen realized that Paulson could maintain his composure in high-pressure situations several months ago when, after recess, he took a quick sip of water at the drinking fountain. "He just had this innate sense that there were people waiting behind him who were also thirsty, and that the class was going to be late for music," she said. "You can't teach that."

Most teachers, after seeing Bryant cry when his mother dropped him off for school during the first two weeks, would have dismissed Paulson's future leadership prospects, but Mrs. Allen reportedly "kept on the boy." She forced him to complete his noodle necklace and printing drills with precision, despite the obvious emotional strain.

"I had to break him a little bit, but I was just preparing him for the kind of focus one needs to line lead," said Mrs. Allen, a former line leader, who admitted she sees a little bit of herself in Paulson. "I look out for the kid, help him grow. To be honest, I'm a little jealous. If I'd had a kindergarten teacher tell me to not swing my arms around wildly when I was his age, I might have one day grown up to be class president."

According to Mrs. Allen, she really started to think Paulson was "the real deal" when she gave him the responsibility of being the class's milk monitor last month. Though there were a few spills early on, Mrs. Allen said he never got lost between the classroom and the cafeteria, and always returned promptly and avoided dillydallying.

"He's got what it takes to be another Tommy Masterson, or even a Lisa Wodtke," said Mrs. Allen, referring to outstanding line leaders from 1998 and 1995, respectively, whose high school careers she continues to follow.

When primary line leader Lauren Gratchic came down with chicken pox in mid-January, Mrs. Allen immediately tapped Paulson for the post. "It was sink or swim—and he swam," she said.

Heading out to recess, Paulson noticed there was construction near the playground, and held the line even though his teacher continued forward. "He was right, and I was wrong," said Mrs. Allen, who added that it seemed as if the kindergartner had "been a line leader his whole life." "I had completely forgotten about the announcement that the playground was off-limits for the day."

"I took him aside and told him that, in general, he should always follow me, no matter what," she added. "But the dynamic of our relationship is complex, and I think he knew I was proud of him."

Student reaction to Paulson's interim leadership was positive.

"He did really good," said fellow kindergartner Miles Reed, 5. "When he led us to lunch, he did good. And when he led us back to class, he did good. Lauren is also good. But she is a girl."

Mrs. Allen spoke cautiously about the imminent transfer of line-leading power, even as she praised Paulson's "seemingly innate" ability to always face forward and not peer into other classrooms while leading his classmates to the cafeteria.

"Sure he's good—shockingly good—and I even think he'd be able to share authority gracefully at times, like when the class has to split up into two lines to enter school assemblies," Mrs. Allen said. "But is he ready for prime time? You don't want to rush these things."

Mrs. Allen added: "Bryant's still just a little young."