Topic defenders: volunteer now!

[Gator2753]

I have decided to create a group called "topic defenders". Its mission is simple. Protect the original discussion topic of a thread using any means necessary as long as they coincide with SECtalk rules.

Basically we will be like minute men, protecting non Alabama/Auburn related threads from becoming pissing matches.

:nonono: :peace: :offtopic: :twak: :flame: These will be common tools used in our war against "Topic rape"

If you wish to volunteer your commission begins right now. Good luck to you all and God speed!

[lacene]

I have decided to create a group called "topic defenders". Its mission is simple. Protect the original discussion topic of a thread using any means necessary as long as they coincide with SECtalk rules.

Basically we will be like minute men, protecting non Alabama/Auburn related threads from becoming pissing matches.

:nonono: :peace: :offtopic: :twak: :flame: These will be common tools used in our war against "Topic rape"

If you wish to volunteer your commission begins right now. Good luck to you all and God speed!


a most noble endeavor, Gator2753! However, I can't help but wonder why the site's existing Moderators are not empowered to best handle this......

[Gator2753]

a most noble endeavor, Gator2753! However, I can't help but wonder why the site's existing Moderators are not empowered to best handle this......

So I take it you don't want to join?:laugh:
Come on I'm just having a little fun with it. Hey $10 says this thread will turn into an AU/UA arguement within 1 day.

[lacene]

So I take it you don't want to join?:laugh:
Come on I'm just having a little fun with it. Hey $10 says this thread will turn into an AU/UA arguement within 1 day.

I won't touch that bet! It's probably not a good idea that I join as a topic Defender, as some trolls here (I can think of one in particular :closedeye) claim that I'm a troll myself, and might not take the effort seriously if I'm involved.

I'll continue to patrol as an independant topic defender, coming to the aid of any volunteers that find themselves caught in the middle of a thethird-shk999 outbreak, and out-numbered. I work best that way. I know kung-fu.

I also am proficient in thread-post reading comprehension skills, so maybe I help the less-fortunate here in post interpretation, and perhaps stem the fire before it starts....

now, if it's Tennessee Volunteers, I might just let 'em swing in the breeze for awhile......:laugh:

[dcbama]

[QUOTE=Gator2753;211323]So I take it you don't want to join?:laugh:
Come on I'm just having a little fun with it. Hey $10 says this thread will turn into an AU/UA arguement within 1 day.[/QUOTE


Yeah, those trailer park living, alabama obsessed, big eared coached, no national championship winning, redneck auburn fans will definitely turn this into an argument with Alabama. :dry:

[lacene]

So I take it you don't want to join?:laugh:
Come on I'm just having a little fun with it. Hey $10 says this thread will turn into an AU/UA arguement within 1 day.


Yeah, those trailer park living, alabama obsessed, big eared coached, no national championship winning, redneck auburn fans will definitely turn this into an argument with Alabama. :dry:



:nonono: :peace: :offtopic: :twak: :flame:


:closedeye

[Gator2753]

LOL
See I knew this was a good idea.:dry:

[SeanVol]

[QUOTE=Gator2753;211323]So I take it you don't want to join?:laugh:
Come on I'm just having a little fun with it. Hey $10 says this thread will turn into an AU/UA arguement within 1 day.[/QUOTE


Yeah, those trailer park living, alabama obsessed, big eared coached, no national championship winning, redneck auburn fans will definitely turn this into an argument with Alabama. :dry:

LOL
See I knew this was a good idea.:dry:

I think he was yanking your chain.

[gatorunvrsty]

[QUOTE=dcbama;211327]



I think he was yanking your chain.

That's why Gator started his response with LOL. Gator's response was sarcastic, too.:thumpsup:

[SeanVol]

[QUOTE=SeanVol;211340]

That's why Gator started his response with LOL. Gator's response was sarcastic, too.:thumpsup:
I didn't see his LOL!

[lacene]

I think this thread is one big LOL....

[Gator2753]

I think this thread is one big LOL....

Thank you. But its faaarrr from being the worst ever.

Not to mention Jerry Beeds hasnt slapped it with his "worst thread ever" logo.:laugh:

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Thank you. But its faaarrr from being the worst ever.

Not to mention Jerry Beeds hasnt slapped it with his "worst thread ever" logo.:laugh:
Or as Beeds would say, something like this.....

http://uplink.space.com/attachments//667744-ttig508.JPG

[Gator2753]

Or as Beeds would say, something like this.....

http://uplink.space.com/attachments//667744-ttig508.JPG

Yeah thats the one!:thumpsup:

[uscrebel]

Jane Austen began her second novel, Pride and Prejudice, before she was twenty-one. It was originally titled First Impression because the appearances of the characters created the plot of the novel. However, because the novel is also concerned with the effects of the character’s first impressions, that is their prejudice, Jane found the title Pride and Prejudice more appropriate.

Pride and Prejudice, similar to other Jane Austen’s novels, is written in gentle or Horacian satire. The main object of Jane’s satire in the novel is the mercenary and the ignorance of the people, a common criticism of the 18th century. Characters in the novel which best carries these qualities are Mrs. Bennet, a foolish woman who talks too much and is obsess with getting her daughters married; Lydia Bennet, the youngest of the Bennet daughter who is devoted to a life of dancing, fashions, gossips and flirting; and Mr. Williams Collins, the silly and conceited baboon who is completely stupify by Lady Catherine in every aspect of his life that he has forgotten his own morals and duty. The tone of the novel is light, satirical, and vivid. Scenes such as Mr. Collins proposal to Elizabeth, and Lady Catherine visits to Lizzy at Longbourn, provides comic relief to the reader while at the same time revealing certain characteristics of the characters. For example, Lydia’s lack of common sense and responsibility is revealed when she takes pride in being the first Bennet girl to be married. Lydia does not take into consideration the circumstance of her marriage, the personality of her husband, or the prospects of their marriage for the future. Elizabeth Bennet’s ability to laugh off her misfortunate and to continue to be optimistic, considering her situation, also contributes to the tone of the novel. The point of view in Pride and Prejudice is limited omniscient; the story is told through Elizabeth, but not in first person. As a result, the mood of the novel lacks dramatic emotions. The atmosphere is intellectual and cold; there is little descriptions of the setting. The main actions of the novel are the interactions between opinions, ideas, and attitudes, which weaves and advances the plot of the novel. The emotions in the novel are to be perceived beneath the surface of the story and are not to be expressed to the readers directly. Jane’s powers of subtle discrimination and shrewd perceptiveness is revealed in Pride and Prejudice; she is able to convey such a complex message using a simple, yet witty, style.

The main subject in the novel is stated in the first sentence of the novel: "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife." In this statement, Jane has cleverly done three things: she has declared that the main subject of the novel will be courtship and marriage, she has established the humorous tone of the novel by taking a simple subject to elaborate and to speak intelligently of, and she has prepared the reader for a chase in the novel of either a husband in search of a wife, or a women in pursuit of a husband. The first line also defines Jane’s book as a piece of literature that connects itself to the 18th century period. Pride and Prejudice is 18th century because of the emphasis on man in his social environment rather than in his individual conditions. The use of satire and wit, a common form of 18th century literature, also contributes to label the book as 18th century. However, because Jane Austen had allowed personal feelings of the characters to be expressed in her work, she can also be classified as Romantic. In the figure of Elizabeth, Jane Austen shows passion attempting to find a valid mode of existence in society. Passion and reasons also comes together in the novel to show that they are complementary of marriage.

[volimhtown]

Jane Austen began her second novel, Pride and Prejudice, before she was twenty-one. It was originally titled First Impression because the appearances of the characters created the plot of the novel. However, because the novel is also concerned with the effects of the character’s first impressions, that is their prejudice, Jane found the title Pride and Prejudice more appropriate.

Pride and Prejudice, similar to other Jane Austen’s novels, is written in gentle or Horacian satire. The main object of Jane’s satire in the novel is the mercenary and the ignorance of the people, a common criticism of the 18th century. Characters in the novel which best carries these qualities are Mrs. Bennet, a foolish woman who talks too much and is obsess with getting her daughters married; Lydia Bennet, the youngest of the Bennet daughter who is devoted to a life of dancing, fashions, gossips and flirting; and Mr. Williams Collins, the silly and conceited baboon who is completely stupify by Lady Catherine in every aspect of his life that he has forgotten his own morals and duty. The tone of the novel is light, satirical, and vivid. Scenes such as Mr. Collins proposal to Elizabeth, and Lady Catherine visits to Lizzy at Longbourn, provides comic relief to the reader while at the same time revealing certain characteristics of the characters. For example, Lydia’s lack of common sense and responsibility is revealed when she takes pride in being the first Bennet girl to be married. Lydia does not take into consideration the circumstance of her marriage, the personality of her husband, or the prospects of their marriage for the future. Elizabeth Bennet’s ability to laugh off her misfortunate and to continue to be optimistic, considering her situation, also contributes to the tone of the novel. The point of view in Pride and Prejudice is limited omniscient; the story is told through Elizabeth, but not in first person. As a result, the mood of the novel lacks dramatic emotions. The atmosphere is intellectual and cold; there is little descriptions of the setting. The main actions of the novel are the interactions between opinions, ideas, and attitudes, which weaves and advances the plot of the novel. The emotions in the novel are to be perceived beneath the surface of the story and are not to be expressed to the readers directly. Jane’s powers of subtle discrimination and shrewd perceptiveness is revealed in Pride and Prejudice; she is able to convey such a complex message using a simple, yet witty, style.

The main subject in the novel is stated in the first sentence of the novel: "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife." In this statement, Jane has cleverly done three things: she has declared that the main subject of the novel will be courtship and marriage, she has established the humorous tone of the novel by taking a simple subject to elaborate and to speak intelligently of, and she has prepared the reader for a chase in the novel of either a husband in search of a wife, or a women in pursuit of a husband. The first line also defines Jane’s book as a piece of literature that connects itself to the 18th century period. Pride and Prejudice is 18th century because of the emphasis on man in his social environment rather than in his individual conditions. The use of satire and wit, a common form of 18th century literature, also contributes to label the book as 18th century. However, because Jane Austen had allowed personal feelings of the characters to be expressed in her work, she can also be classified as Romantic. In the figure of Elizabeth, Jane Austen shows passion attempting to find a valid mode of existence in society. Passion and reasons also comes together in the novel to show that they are complementary of marriage.

....USCRebel is a legend (IMO) around these parts. I read this entire post in genuine awe and with true admiration! Thank you for continuing to raise the bar!!

[lacene]

There are seven different marriages presented in the novel. Excluding the Gardiner and the Lucas, the remaining five marriages contrasts each other to reveal Jane’s opinions and thoughts on the subject of marriage.

The marriage between Darcy and Elizabeth reveals the characteristics which constitutes a successful marriage. One of these characteristics is that the feeling cannot be brought on by appearances, and must gradually develop between the two people as they get to know one another. In the beginning, Elizabeth and Darcy were distant from each other because of their prejudice. The series of events which they both experienced gave them the opportunity to understand one another and the time to reconcile their feelings for each other. Thus, their mutual understanding is the foundation of their relationship and will lead them to a peaceful and lasting marriage. This relationship between Elizabeth and Darcy reveals the importance of getting to know one’s partner before marrying. The marriage between Jane Bennet and Bingley is also an example of successful marriage. Jane Austen, through Elizabeth, expresses her opinion of this in the novel:

"....really believed all his [Bingley] expectations of felicity, to be rationally founded, because they had for basis the excellent understanding, and super-excellent disposition of Jane, and a general similarity of feeling and taste between her and himself." (Chapter 55)
However, unlike Darcy and Elizabeth, there is a flaw in their relationship. The flaw is that both characters are too gullible and too good-hearted to ever act strongly against external forces that may attempt to separate them:

"You [Jane and Bingley] are each of you so complying, that nothing will ever be resolved on; so easy, that every servant will cheat you; and so generous, that you will always exceed your income." (Chapter 55)
Obviously, Lydia and Wickham’s marriage is an example of an bad marriage. Their marriage was based on appearances, good looks, and youthful vivacity. Once these qualities can no longer be seen by each other, the once strong relationship will slowly fade away. As in the novel, Lydia and Wickham’s marriage gradually disintegrates; Lydia becomes a regular visitor at her two elder sister’s homes when "her husband was gone to enjoy himself in London or Bath." Through their relationship, Jane Austen shows that hasty marriage based on superficial qualities quickly cools and leads to unhappiness.

Although little is told of how Mr. Bennet and Mrs. Bennet got together, it can be inferred by their conversions that their relationship was similar to that of Lydia and Wickham - Mr. Bennet had married a woman he found sexually attractive without realizing she was an unintelligent woman. Mrs. Bennet’s favoritism towards Lydia and her comments on how she was once as energetic as Lydia reveals this similarity. Mr. Bennet’s comment on Wickham being his favorite son-in-law reinforces this parallelism. The effect of the relationships was that Mr. Bennet would isolate himself from his family; he found refugee in his library or in mocking his wife. Mr. Bennet’s self-realization at the end of the novel in which he discovers that his lack of attention towards his family had lead his family to develop the way they are, was too late to save his family. He is Jane Austen’s example of a weak father. In these two latter relationships, Austen shows that it is necessary to use good judgement to select a spouse, otherwise the two people will lose respect for each other.

Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen. Search, Read, Study, Discuss. (http://www.online-literature.com/austen/prideprejudice/)

:mellow:

[thethird]

and also northfla has good judgement to select a team and a hated opponent; otherwise the two teams will like each other for 100 years, and will lose respect for each other.

[shk999]

I won't touch that bet! It's probably not a good idea that I join as a topic Defender, as some trolls here (I can think of one in particular :closedeye) claim that I'm a troll myself, and might not take the effort seriously if I'm involved.

Why do you feel compelled to refer to me in almost every post you make? Would that be considered "trolling" for an argument? Why would anyone consider you a "troll"? You still dont see it do you?


I'll continue to patrol as an independant topic defender, coming to the aid of any volunteers that find themselves caught in the middle of a thethird-shk999 outbreak, and out-numbered. I work best that way. I know kung-fu.



Settle down Wonder Woman.

[uscrebel]

:mellow:

After spending much time considering how to punish man's stupidity and prejudice, God created irony.

:cool: :cool:

[AUChamps]

I cry discrimination. Everyone knows that if the other states had their main rivals in the SEC, we'd be seeing Louisville-Kentucky, Clemson-USC, UGA-Tech, and UF-FSU pissing matches JUST LIKE the way Auburn and Alabama go at it.

The Mississippi schools would be doing the same thing if there were more members on here.

[shk999]

I cry discrimination. Everyone knows that if the other states had their main rivals in the SEC, we'd be seeing Louisville-Kentucky, Clemson-USC, UGA-Tech, and UF-FSU pissing matches JUST LIKE the way Auburn and Alabama go at it.

The Mississippi schools would be doing the same thing if there were more members on here.

Ok, for once, I totally agree with the barner. Hmmm, I think someone played the "jedi mind trick" on us. :laugh:
In all seriousness though, he is right.

[AUChamps]

Ok, for once, I totally agree with the barner. Hmmm, I think someone played the "jedi mind trick" on us. :laugh:
In all seriousness though, he is right.
Alabama and Auburn are just lucky to be rivals and be in the same conference. You 'Kats, 'Dawgs, Gators, and Gamecocks are just spoiled because on here it's a 1 way street in regard to rivalry discussion. Bayou Bengals and Razorbacks don't understand either because they're in rivalry limbo.

[uscrebel]

Because a trusted colleague pm'd me about this, I will explain a recent post.

After realizing that this thread was yet another head-spinning episode of "As the Pissing Match Turns," I chose to post what seemed appropriate to the thread itself...i.e. a totally irrelevant post.

To best choose a totally irrelevant post, I simply popped a link in my bookmark file and randomly highlighted what appeared...click/copy...click/close tab...click/paste. I barely noticed that it was a Pride and Prejudice critique that I had bookmarked for my son.

As I looked at what I had posted/pasted, I smiled. I am not necessarily a big fan of the novel of manners genre, but as a former literature major the message of Austen's book...that false, fatuous pride begets shallow, meaningless prejudice...was apropros to say the least.

What I remember from the novel is that in the end, everyone seems happy and satisfied. That is because the novel focused on a small group of people and not those that had to endure their simpering, whimpering, petty prejudices. That would have been a wholly different book.

This should explain my response to Lacene. I did not post it to suggest that God was punishing HIS stupidity and ignorance with irony, but that all stupidity and ignorance find their comeuppance in the ironic twists of life.

I remain your humble servant.....

[GeauxTo]

I remain your humble servant.....

With your lineage, I would have supposed you to be a fan of the pernicious Snopes.
:tongue:

[thethird]

Wow, this is great stuff guys!

[uscrebel]

With your lineage, I would have supposed you to be a fan of the pernicious Snopes.
:tongue:

My momma's people were Rutledges, but my poppa's people were Cherokees and black Irish.

[GeauxTo]

My momma's people were Rutledges, but my poppa's people were Cherokees and black Irish.

No Cherokees or black Irish (save, perhaps, for Faulkner himself) in Yoknapatawpha County, but perhaps some Choctaws.


http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~egjbp/faulkner/images/snopes.jpg

[thethird]

:nonono::wave:

[GeauxTo]

:nonono::wave:

Hey, we're having a high-level discussion here. Geaux back to the Waffle House and wait.
:whistle:

Oh, by the way; ever eat at the Fantail? Not up to Louisiana seafood standards, but not bad.

[SeanVol]

Hey, we're having a high-level discussion here. Geaux back to the Waffle House and wait.
:whistle:

Oh, by the way; ever eat at the Fantail? Not up to Louisiana seafood standards, but not bad.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[GamecockDieHard]

No Cherokees or black Irish (save, perhaps, for Faulkner himself) in Yoknapatawpha County, but perhaps some Choctaws.


http://www.mcsr.olemiss.edu/~egjbp/faulkner/images/snopes.jpg

Did you check Snopes.com for that to make sure it's not a myth??:laugh: